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This dude has to be the most overrated player on Liquid
2019-07-17 05:27
#1
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New Zealand rowdog 
stfu
2019-07-17 05:28
Really good player of course
2019-07-17 05:28
flag doesn't check out, name checks out
2019-07-17 05:28
+1, flag fits with Retard name
2019-07-17 05:29
Daps=Canadian so I use Can flag
2019-07-17 06:10
#5
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Macau Bent0 
no he's good like real good
2019-07-17 05:29
He just as good as Elige and NAF
2019-07-17 05:30
#59
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
Nobody thinks he's better than them, so what's your point?
2019-08-07 12:40
I think he was much better last year than Elige and NAF but now they are at the same level.
2019-08-08 16:07
#87
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
he wasn't better than naf, maybe in the second half of the year
2019-08-08 21:34
EliGE is #3 and i'd argue NAF is #5-6, so hes hardly bad lmao
2019-08-08 21:48
MAD_CUZ_DADDY_TWISTZZ_RAPED_C9
2019-07-17 05:30
Not really
2019-07-17 05:31
#14
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Switzerland Jeded 
Is that supposed to be impressive ?
2019-07-17 05:34
Imagine boasting about the top1 team in the world beating a team that debuted at that tournament and brought Liquid to a 16:14 on the second map
2019-08-06 19:03
Hes canadian what did you expect?
2019-08-08 15:55
0/8
2019-07-17 05:31
He’s overrated
2019-07-17 05:32
0/8
2019-08-07 12:43
#69
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
0/8
2019-08-07 13:15
Dudes bad and just gets luck kills
2019-07-17 05:32
-1
2019-07-17 05:33
0/8
2019-08-08 21:53
Why
2019-07-17 05:41
He’s a good player but people act like he carries Liquid or something
2019-07-17 05:44
It makes sense. It's hard not to agree :)
2019-07-17 05:44
+1
2019-07-17 05:51
#45
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United Kingdom EKersh 
+1
2019-07-17 08:31
#17
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Canada Marchy 
This guys clutches like crazy tf you on dude lol
2019-07-17 05:44
Doesn’t even have the most 1vX clutches on his team?
2019-07-17 05:46
#20
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Canada Marchy 
like when he clutched vs G2 last tounry and got them the win?
2019-07-17 05:46
Obviously makes him the best player
2019-07-17 05:48
He’s really good, he’s just not peak Niko or S1mple level yet
2019-07-17 05:51
#24
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Canada Marchy 
that i can agree too
2019-07-17 05:57
PEAK NIKO OMG LUL. twistzz is far better than peak niko. talk about overrated players you should be talking about niko lmao
2019-08-09 01:38
#108
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Brazil Br4tZ 
no
2019-08-09 05:59
Lmao Niko was on another level when he was at his peak. Twistzz isn't even close right now.
2019-08-09 09:12
0/8
2019-08-09 17:07
I'm sure Twistzz would be considered the best player in the world if he was on a tier 3 team like Niko was. Twistzz isn't even considered a contender even though he's on the number 1 team. 0/8 btw.
2019-08-09 18:12
+111
2019-08-09 06:00
Imo elige and Twistzz are tied for best on Liquid, closely followed by NAF.
2019-07-17 06:15
+1, they’re all around the same
2019-07-17 06:49
Tied with elige? LMAO.. It's more like tied with naf for second
2019-08-07 08:01
NAF is too inconsistent
2019-08-08 16:10
naf is by far the most consistent player on liquid what the fuck are you smoking lmao
2019-08-09 01:38
The games I watch he's either the mvp or whiffing way too much. Twistzz and EliGE are more reliable imo.
2019-08-09 08:38
you need to watch more games then
2019-08-09 17:09
Have followed them for years, Twistzz is more reliable imo
2019-08-09 17:38
are you high or something...?
2019-08-09 05:38
No. Twistzz is more consistent these days in terms of impact and fragging. Him and EliGE.
2019-08-09 08:37
we are talking about this year overall and you can check graph in their performance by yourself and even their bad maps hltv.org/stats/players/8520/NAF?startDat.. pretty much only 1 bad period otherwise pretty consistent performance with 20 maps under 1.0 rating hltv.org/stats/players/10394/Twistzz?sta.. 2 downs with pretty improving performance as of late, 23 maps under 1.0 rating yet they have both 1.18 rating while naf has 1.13 impact rating(twistzz 1.09) and 82.4 adr(twistzz 75.5). on top of that naf has 1.16 rating vs top10 teams(twistzz 1.13) and 1.17 vs top5 teams(twistzz 1.13)...also naf 2 mvps(twistzz 1). this year its 1. elige 2. naf 3. twistzz for now
2019-08-09 09:00
Solid points but take into account that Twistzz has had health problems for some time now, obviously affected his performance.
2019-08-09 09:03
i dont want to taky anything from twistzz. he is awesome player but if we would talk purely about their actual performance this year so far, he is slightly behind naf... but he is on upward trajectory so he can surely overcome him till the end of the year
2019-08-09 09:15
Nice retard
2019-07-17 06:20
nt
2019-07-17 06:26
#29
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Brazil hansenbr 
+1
2019-07-17 06:40
cry is free :)
2019-07-17 06:51
No, cry isn't
2019-08-09 05:50
lul this guy is because liquid is winning every t1 event. In 2018 this guy was great in group stages but was always absent in finals and now when he is shining his team wins. Best deagle, m4a4 and ak47 player in tl imo. overrated my ass
2019-07-17 06:53
#33
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Where are his mvps?
2019-07-17 07:00
esl one new york 2018. Its just the beginning he will get more mvp tho. he isn't a star player or a play maker but when it comes to clutching/eco rounds he steps up and makes sure his team wins that round.
2019-07-17 07:06
#36
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
+1
2019-07-17 07:08
#65
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Poland Crai9Xen 
+1
2019-08-07 12:50
+1
2019-08-08 21:52
+1
2019-08-09 06:02
IEM SYDNEY
2019-08-09 01:39
#132
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Aww yes, the least important big event tournament along with Blast LA. Twistzz is great but still needs to show more.
2019-08-09 23:15
#35
Brazil G3er 
nt Elige, Twistzz is better than you
2019-07-17 07:07
+1
2019-07-17 07:11
#38
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
+1 but don't get me wrong, he's really good no one can deny that, but in comparison to his m8s, he's way too inconsistent, yet the community praise him way too much, unlike Elige who's a fucking beast right now, he was kinda irrelevant before he really popped off later this year.
2019-07-17 07:26
Naf = Twistz = Elige > Stew > Nitro However, stew and nitro very close to them + nitro is a great clutch player So everyone is on the same level roughly
2019-07-17 07:30
#42
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
+1
2019-07-17 07:46
Elige>NAF=Twistzz>Nitr0>Stewie
2019-08-07 13:01
elige is barely better than naf & twistzz. also lets not forget about 2018 where elige was always behind naf and twistzz.
2019-08-09 01:41
#114
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Greece Michaelides 
Well, this is 2019, not 2018. In 2019 EliGE>NAF=Twistzz>Stewie>nitr0
2019-08-09 08:28
elige > twistzz > naf
2019-08-09 06:03
#40
Jame | 
Brazil DrTx 
you can pick twistzz here: we will let zywho for last lets go men))0
2019-07-17 07:37
#41
Jame | 
Brazil DrTx 
2019-07-17 07:42
25 kills in one galf against faze, so overrated mens
2019-07-17 07:49
i wanna know how do you call someone "overrated" with 1.15 rating
2019-07-17 07:55
You can be overrated even with 1.20 rating... And twistzz indeed is overhyped and was overrated AF last year
2019-08-07 08:02
because you can be overrated but still a great player
2019-08-07 12:46
He is a top 3 player on his own team, that said he is still pretty damn good. I would rank them NAF >= Elige > Twistzz > Nitro = Stewie
2019-08-07 07:56
#48
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United States KKonian 
He is a consistent passive player who gets the kills he needs to get especially in the clutch
2019-08-07 07:59
#51
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United States Nohj_ 
no no no no
2019-08-07 08:03
You cant be the most overrated Player in your Team when you have stewie
2019-08-07 09:07
A player can't be overrated if everyone calls him overrated.
2019-08-07 09:10
Enough ppl praise him for everything he does, even for his mistakes. Example: freekills for pushing too much and fanboys are like: what a great play! So much Information!!!1
2019-08-07 12:34
And how many people are consistently dumping on him because he's generally bottom fragging? Any match page will have 90% of S2k related comments just criticizing him. It's funny though, he is generally great at getting information, which is a Hallmark of two of the most dominant sides to ever play CSGO - fnatic and Astralis. Not to mention his utility usage is some of the best in the world.
2019-08-07 21:25
The amount of threads/Post are so high because he acts like a kid. Most ppl critize him for his behaviour and his ego. Alot of people also praise him like he made liquid from nothing to top 1 single handedly and forget that liquid last year was by far the second best Team. Imho they didnt become that much better, but since their only real enemie (astralis) is on a huge slump it's obvious that liquid took over a dominant #1 Spot (just my opinion) but yeah. He just gets more Credit than he deserves for liquid's success, and that's the definition of overrated, isnt it?
2019-08-08 08:59
Again, there are far more people who criticize him than praise him. I see this on every TL match thread, especially considering S2k is usually at the bottom of the scoreboard. I am mystified at your claim that people say S2k took TL from nothing to top-1. I haven't seen anyone say this with any seriousness. Is he a catalyst to their jump from #2 to #1? Absolutely. If you can't see that, then this argument is pointless. Whether or not Astralis is in a slump is irrelevant. Time and time again, I see excuse after excuse being made for EU teams. I used to see the same tired excuses about how EU teams were slumping when SK had their run in 2016. At some point you need to start crediting the top team for having consistency in any given year, considering the quality of CS that exists nowadays.
2019-08-08 15:50
"I am mystified at your claim that people say S2k took TL from nothing to top-1. I haven't seen anyone say this with any seriousness. Is he a catalyst to their jump from #2 to #1? Absolutely. If you can't see that, then this argument is pointless. " Hard for him too look good when their previous player was TACO, litteraly any tier 1 PRO would look like a big upgrade If they got to play instead of TACO, one of the worst players that played in a top 2-3 team If we aren't counting IGLs.
2019-08-08 21:52
So you agree that S2k was an improvement over TACO? I don't see what the rest of the contention is.
2019-08-09 01:26
Shit2k is overrated, anyone from a t1 team could've played instead of TACO and Liquid would be almost as good as they are right now If not even better. The main reason why liquid is winning is the magical trio(Elige,NAF,Twistzz), not the Shit2k.
2019-08-09 08:24
+1
2019-08-07 13:17
#53
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United States ImFat 
0/8
2019-08-07 09:09
But when it comes to raw skills... maybe Twiztzz is a guy that couldn't brainlessly keep up with Rez.
2019-08-07 09:37
#57
sergej | 
Finland olskab 
Noone on liquid is overtated
2019-08-07 12:39
Because despite him being one of the most talented players on the team, he only either drops 30 or just doesn't show up.
2019-08-07 12:39
how can a player that everyone calls overrated by overrated
2019-08-07 12:41
0/8
2019-08-07 12:42
#64
EliGE | 
CIS rdx0021 
0/8
2019-08-07 12:48
#67
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United States Ash171 
there is so much syrup in one post holy
2019-08-07 13:04
Imagine calling Twistzz overrated when stewie2k is on the team.
2019-08-07 13:11
#70
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
+1
2019-08-07 13:15
his clutches saved Liquid in many situations; 0/8.
2019-08-08 15:51
-8/8
2019-08-08 15:59
#78
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Sweden Lagge15 
0/8 top 5 in the world
2019-08-08 16:02
top5: 1.zywoo 2.EliGE 3.twistzz 4.p1mple (cause no mvp and evps = bot) 5.device
2019-08-08 21:51
Magisk > Simple >>> Device >> Easily
2019-08-09 01:35
#115
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Greece Michaelides 
2019-08-09 08:31
twistzz got mvp from better event and a lot more evps
2019-08-09 10:11
#125
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Greece Michaelides 
You’re correct about the EVP part, but StarSeries S7 > IEM Sydney. SS had a better format, better teams in attendance, better prize pool. Only things it didn’t have were the crowd, good observers, IGS Point, and a good view model for viewing experience.
2019-08-09 11:02
#79
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United States Tom_D_Cat 
Bait, but he's insanely good
2019-08-08 16:02
#80
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
No one is overrated in TL
2019-08-08 16:04
7th in the world in big events over the past 6 months, and only behind Elige on the team. hltv.org/stats?startDate=2019-02-08&endD..
2019-08-08 16:06
#88
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United States Gabriel955 
yeah and team liquid has played almost 2 times as many maps as everyone else so its harder to get a higher rating
2019-08-08 21:46
+1 and he is playing support role, could have better ratings without this
2019-08-08 21:50
lol no he is Aim God
2019-08-08 16:07
#84
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Ukraine vIadik96 
He's the cutest Twink in the scene
2019-08-08 16:08
#85
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
impact wise rn ELiGE > Twistzz > stew > NAF > nitr0 peak form wise Twistzz > NAF > ELiGE > stew > nitr0 consistency wise ELiGE > nitr0 = Twistzz > NAF = stew
2019-08-08 16:09
i feel like twistzz skill ceiling is higher than eliges but elige is more consistant
2019-08-08 21:53
+1 Way more consistent
2019-08-09 01:36
Flag check out
2019-08-09 05:50
#106
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Canada LiquidTop1 
R
2019-08-09 05:57
NAF overrated not twistz
2019-08-09 05:58
He's probably the best player on liquid, is a rich man's Niko,always comes up big when it matters, he's won a few tournaments with his clutches.
2019-08-09 06:15
#116
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United States SilveryoHD 
LULULULUULULULUL cry is fucking free
2019-08-09 08:33
#121
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
He's a bit inconsistent, but when he's playing well he's insane
2019-08-09 09:08
+1. Great player, but people talk like he's canadian s1mple and carries Liquid when Elige is clearly the best player on this team.
2019-08-09 17:17
The greatest player, better than s0mpel and ZyWho no doubt
2019-08-09 18:19
#133
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France GiaPaige 
nah he is impressive and always does insane clutches at crucial moments
2019-08-09 23:15
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