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Azerbaijan no_vocaroo_posts 
Give me summary of political topics like what leftism, rightism, socialism, communism, capitalism and etc are. I’m new to it!
2019-07-20 13:38
Rightism = mental illness
2019-07-20 13:38
Ok men i’m going full leftist then cuz i can easily get manipulated😎
2019-07-20 13:40
Right and left in germany is so much different than in the US per say. In germany i'd probably have voted left while in the US i would have voted republican
2019-07-20 13:46
Other _Kan0n 
2019-07-20 13:52
Because left politics works peacefully for lay-low countries. Although i've never seen* dumber people in my life than the american left.
2019-07-20 13:56
I lean more right and there are plenty on the right as well but I will agree it's gotten pretty bad....
2019-07-20 14:14
Your left literally wants the worse for your country, it's hilarious. And that youtube video i've seen about someone talking to teens mentioning "bernie's plans" when it's actually trump's plans and they'd do anything to demonize trump.. disgusting
2019-07-20 14:32
Campus Reform? love the hypocrisy they expose indeed :D
2019-07-20 19:48
Yep and it's sad
2019-07-21 05:59
it hasn't gotten bad, that's just what the media promotes
2019-07-20 18:57
Then you haven't seen the Swedish left "REMOVE OUR MILITARY FORCE" Or our feminists "LET'S KILL ALL THE WHITE MEN"
2019-07-20 14:18
2019-07-20 14:39
So how many white men have been killed becuase of feminists in sweden?
2019-07-20 19:26
We can't find out because Sweden refuses to release statistics on the race of criminals, every white man murdered by a non swede immigrant is the responsibility of their suicidal feminist government
2019-07-20 20:40
Sure man, all governments are responsible for all crime that happens. Also I dont need stats to see that a feminist killed a white men, all I need is are articles showing it happens. Also 10/10 brainfuck to combine feminists and immigrants as reason white men are being killed XD Well at least this has proven one thing: somehow you cry about white men being killed by not about anyone else it seems. Guess the triggered feminists trigger you alot.
2019-07-20 21:04
I didn't say that they are killing us That's just what they are saying The feminist thing was a little bit of a joke, it's a bit true
2019-07-20 21:22
You used it as arguement against "the left". So there goes your point. The left and feminists are far from the same, Im a leftists and 98% of "feminists" are braindead idiots in my eyes.
2019-07-20 21:45
What? I responded to a guy that said "I've never seen dumber people in my life than the American left"
2019-07-20 22:23
"Then you haven't seen the Swedish left". In Sweden leftism is mroe than a bunch of dumb feminists aswell, not only america.
2019-07-20 22:58
MSL | 
World Houzzy 
2019-07-20 18:58
NBK- | 
Denmark L|G2|BTQ 
Flag checked out xD
2019-07-20 19:49
Idk, they are very messed up especially comparing European and USA politics
2019-07-20 13:39
communism = bestest
2019-07-20 13:40
NBK- | 
Denmark L|G2|BTQ 
Mao Zedong's "cultural revolution" reforms = 40 millions of dead chinese Keep it going, communist buddy xD
2019-07-20 19:54
dont wanna play it down but how many people die of preventable diseases and hunger per year? >>capitalism
2019-07-20 20:56
I've never seen a figure that overexaggerated lol
2019-07-21 06:05
just search the actual meaning on official sites dont ask ppl since everyone will manipulate information
2019-07-20 13:41
Too lazy I believe HLTVers will give so much info in short sentences.
2019-07-20 13:43
No, HLTV is more right-oriented, so you Most likely would get a right biased explaination. Educate yourself, Not let others educate you.
2019-07-20 13:44
Asia Asfmankey 
Good point I've noticed that a lot of threads and users are right-oriented and HLTV seems to have more users with a right wing bias
2019-07-20 18:56
half the posts on this site are fake leftist bait threads and retarded ring wingers responding.
2019-07-20 19:03
Asia Asfmankey 
Well, that is pretty accurate
2019-07-20 19:04
It's because hltv one of the few sites you don't get banned for saying something right wing.
2019-07-20 20:41
You’re gonna get a bunch of Ben Shapiro cucks with hack right wing views
2019-07-20 19:34
Other Arbeiter 
leftists want to ruin the west by race mixing, promoting mental illnesses and anti-white and anti middle class politics.
2019-07-20 13:42
North America GatorThePimp 
2019-07-20 13:44
nt Stuttgart Fake Arbeiter
2019-07-20 13:44
Other Arbeiter 
I will have to report you for calling me Stuttgart with zero proof of me being him. Classic leftist trying to denounce everyone he doesn't agree with as multi accounters.
2019-07-20 13:53
Establishment hate, obssession for the "Beauty" of Stuttgart, calling me with my former name, newly Made account shortly after Last Stuttgart Account was banned, your current reaction... Isnt that enough?
2019-07-20 14:07
2019-07-20 13:48
NBK- | 
Denmark L|G2|BTQ 
My respects
2019-07-20 19:55
Other Arbeiter 
2019-07-20 20:01
NBK- | 
Denmark L|G2|BTQ 
lol God save us all... (NO)
2019-07-20 20:03
Poland Kleigen 
Rightism = loving your country no matter what, even if it's wrong for people Leftism = freedom, but people are mixing, a lot of internal problems Socialism = money for people, but they have to work or have a family (or take social services like most of refugees in Europe) Communism = work to live, live to work (yeah, USSR's style) Capitalism = what can I say, we're living in capitalism (most of HLTV users) so u have your own experience I think
2019-07-20 13:49
Socialism sounds nice! I’m a socialist from now on!
2019-07-20 13:51
But it doesn't work.
2019-07-20 13:57
2019-07-20 13:57
It's a very complex answer. In Socialist Countries, factories and production are state-owned but people have private property - mostly lands, in Communist countries everything is state-owned, people have no private property. So let's get to the point why Socialism is a very risky system. The state employs people mostly that are in high position in the ruling political party (Socialist party), those people in most cases don't have the needed education and people are greedy by nature so they steal goods from the production or hire close friends or relatives in their factory. This leads to bad running of a company and eventually to huge losses which the state must pay but that's not the worst thing. There's something called market (that's the place you sell your goods). In Socialist countries, the production is centrally planned (The Government plans it for the year), they plan on what price they are gonna sell their goods so the factory won't be in huge loss after the year, this doesn't sound bad if you do not take in account that other countries can produce the same thing, the same functionality for much lower price and sometimes even with better quality. This is the capitalistic system. The capitalistic system due to lower corporate taxes allows private owned companies to spend much more money on innovations. Innovations means progress, progress means money, money means domination. That's the USA There's much more than that, you can read a lot on that subject in the internet.
2019-07-20 14:12
You got a good point on the international market system. Any form of socialism can only work if you stop import and export and isolate your country from other productions. Does socialism necessarily imply that people can hold and grow property?
2019-07-20 14:30
2019-07-20 14:45
China has no communism because it works there :D
2019-07-20 19:36
Works in which provinces? It only works where private property is allowed and a lot of foreign investments were done in those provinces.
2019-07-20 19:45
Oh China runs on foreign investments :D Foreigners even have to take a local partner if they want to go there. And they go there because its a huge market. China has its own problems and is quite a shitty country by Western standards, but at least they dont have these economics experts flooding bullshit to people to make rich richer by taking national debt.
2019-07-20 19:58
A Polish that has a balanced view on both sides for once, not bad
2019-07-20 13:52
ty men)) 😎😎😎🥰🥰🥰
2019-07-20 13:58
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
your explanation of right is far right not general right
2019-07-20 15:13
xseveN | 
Finland nfty 
its all gay
2019-07-20 13:53
Yes Sex with hot chicks > politics
2019-07-20 13:56
Reunion 1iquser 
take the political compass shit, you'll find out
2019-07-20 13:54
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
its shit
2019-07-20 15:13
North America GatorThePimp 
Abortion much very good!
2019-07-20 13:55
Rightist = nazi Leftist = communist Centrist = bankers Socialism = everyone can get money Capitalism = only rich can get money Communism = no money etc = etc
2019-07-20 13:58
socialism: no one can get money capitalism: everyone gets money socialism is the economic system, the fundament of the ideology of communism you eipjgn
2019-07-20 14:21
yes, everyone is rich in our capitalist countries you are right ! yes, there is not the word "capital" in "capitalism" you are right !
2019-07-20 15:13
yes, almost everyone is rich if we're looking at it from a historical perspective.
2019-07-20 18:55
yes everyone mens I wonder how it work "I'll buy your PC listed for 1000 euros for 1 euros, because 1 euros is a lot from historical perspective" at the shop.
2019-07-20 19:30
that has nothing to do with what i said. relative poverty and absolute poverty are not the same thing. owning a pc is not a human right.
2019-07-20 19:37
Who said otherwise?
2019-07-20 19:48
NBK- | 
Denmark L|G2|BTQ 
Yes, there is a huge gap between poor and rich in capitalist countries, but unlike in socialist states poor ppl in whole are getting richer. Your statement is just a leftist propaganda.
2019-07-20 20:01
#59 we all see them in motion to be richer indeed. Unlike what you wish my statement is based on facts and particularly in personal experiences since I'm not working anymore yet never earned as much as I do now.
2019-07-20 22:06
Capitalism best 😎😎😎😎😎😎
2019-07-20 14:13
liberalism: promotes freedom. the political system of any functioning society in history or the modern world. basically the ideology of the educated. brings prosperity and development. communism, social democracy, conservatism, etc: authoritarian, always at expense of some individuals, subcultures, ethnicities, classes etc. regressive. basically the ideologies of people who can identify a system that works, and a system that doesn't work, yet still choose the one that doesn't work. i.e, definition of idiocy.
2019-07-20 14:16
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
freedom for those who agree with u but leftists dont give freedom to those who don't think like them
2019-07-20 15:14
in a liberal state you most definitely have freedom of thought and speech
2019-07-20 18:59
doesn't work like that in America sadly
2019-07-20 19:09
i don't know what you're referring to
2019-07-20 19:21
having any opinion or thought that's even remotely anti sjw will get you into hot water with the American left. I myself would personally be more left leaning if it wasn't for these kinds of people.
2019-07-20 19:30
that's a whole other problem. but by law there's nothing that stops you from forming your own opinions and expressing them also, please don't confuse american liberalism with classical liberalism
2019-07-20 19:33
Not in new Zealand, supposed to be very liberal but if you have the wrong opinions you will be arrested. For example some drunk teenager yelled Muslims go home and that violated the law, also lots of websites shut down after Christchurch shooting and lots of people arrested for sharing the video or having the manifesto, people who said right wing things on Facebook having police knock on door. New left wing is very authoritarian, trying to police freedom of speech by inventing 'hate speech'
2019-07-20 20:48
Rightism = conservatism, smaller government, lower taxes, speech free, strong borders, gun rights Leftism = for yobbos Socialism = for lazy cunts Communism = for hungry cunts Capitalism = the ability to work hard and demolish your neighbor in a free market
2019-07-20 14:17
as far as i know: leftism = difference in capital and property between people should be more or less regulated by the state rightism = mainly staying on old traditions e.g conservativism (laws, religion). in modern societies also a tendency against foreigners socialism = is a left alignment. it contains many possible forms of a society in which the state has more power about the property as in capitalism. in some forms people are allowed to collect a certain amount of property. communism = a very left concept. the states holds all property and capital. no one can collect it. everyone has the same capitalism = the main goal in life is to collect as much capital as you can. everyone is free to do so. most european have a social capitalism (rich people pay more taxes, ill people get donated. you are not complety free in earning money). some countries have a hard capitalism (no work, no money or rich people can get as rich as they are able to, without state intervening) please keep in mind that when it comes to properties, freedom and equality are contrasts. but both are worthwhile.
2019-07-20 14:21
Capitalism= Dont care about people
2019-07-20 18:58
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2019-07-20 21:21
Peru TheJuan 
Radical Centrism is best 😎😎
2019-07-20 19:00
+1 men))
2019-07-20 20:54
economic rightism = pro capitalism, pro free market, few to no government intervention social/cultural rightism = conservatism, nationalism, anti lgbt etc economic leftism = anti capitalism, workers selfmanagement, often (but not alway) against markets social/cultural leftism = inclusive, progessive, pro lgbt capitalism = an economic system based on private ownership of the means of production. comes with a free market socialism = economic system based on common ownership of the means of production. can come with a market, doesn't have to tho communism = a socialist ideology. society based on the common ownership of the means of production. no state, social classes or monetary system. not to be confused with the socialism of china or the ussr.
2019-07-20 19:04
Right = lower taxation, and trusting the market to fix the social issues, Left = increased taxation, the government uses taxation to fix social issues Communism = the government own all the land and property and distribute the wealth depending on the job you have ect, so you wouldn’t own your own home, the government would give you one depending on your position in society. Capitalism = the market decides everything, no sanctions, no restrictions. Really low if any taxes, very small government Socialism = somewhat in the middle of both capitalism and communism. It’s essentislly capitalism but the state runs certain aspects of social life (I.e schools, healthcare, police, firefighters, trains, utilities, have some subsidied housing Marxism = criticism of capitalism, is a ideology that somewhat caused a shift in western nations away from completely free market capitalism towards a more socialist form. Some people who dislike any criticism of capitalism say that Marx was a communist, but you have to look at the agendas of all political figures to figure out what they really think. 90% of politics is smear campaigns
2019-07-20 19:02
"Communism = the government own all the land and property and distribute the wealth depending on the job you have ect, so you wouldn’t own your own home, the government would give you one depending on your position in society. " "Socialism = somewhat in the middle of both capitalism and communism. It’s essentislly capitalism but the state runs certain aspects of social life (I.e schools, healthcare, police, firefighters, trains, utilities, have some subsidied housing " 🤦
2019-07-20 19:03
What did I say that’s wrong? Do communists not want the government to control everything? Is socialism not essentially the middle wary between free market capitalism and communism? Hence why nearly every modern western nation is socialist?
2019-07-20 20:01
no. no modern western nation is socialist. socialism means that the means of production are owned by the workers. this isn't the case in germany, france, the uk, denmark, norway or anywhere else in the western world. also, the communist don't want the government to control everything, the state doesn't exist in communism. the means of production are owned by everybody, your house is still your house (aslong as you don't own some huge ass mansion).
2019-07-20 20:26
Fair enough man, so like a co op shop in the uk is communist then because it’s owned by all the workers? And the profits are shared between the customers and staff? I always thought most European countries are essentially socialist because the capitalist in the US call them that.
2019-07-20 20:35
" I always thought most European countries are essentially socialist because the capitalist in the US call them that." That's because americans don't know shit about politics. for some of them everybody to the left of the republicans is a dirty commie. most western countries are social democracies. they have a capitalist economy but a welfare system to ensure that people don't starve or drown in debt after seeing a doctor "Fair enough man, so like a co op shop in the uk is communist then because it’s owned by all the workers?" Definitely not communist as communism seeks to abolish the monetary system. co-ops are basically what we'd have in a market socialist economy. The means of production are owned by the workers but goods are still exchanged through a market. Co-ops in a capitalist economy still have many problems of capitalism tho. Most socialist reject the idea of market socialism tho.
2019-07-20 20:44
Okay thank you, why do socialist reject market socialism? I would’ve called myself a socialist before but I guess I’m a social democrat? But the phrase social democrat sounds kinda silly to me tho, because surely everyone is a democrat? Unless you don’t believe in democracy? Sorry I probably sound dumb as fuck
2019-07-20 20:45
"why do socialist reject market socialism?" That's a good question and to be honest I'm not sure if I know the answer to it. I think there's several reasons for it. For once, it would still allow hoarding of wealth, individual profit motive over collective good, and emphasize monetary incentives over human ones. Basically, profit would still be more important than everything else, just like under capitalism. Besides, workforce and products would still be just a commodity leading to the alienation of the workers. Hope that was at least reasonably understandable. I've probably not read enough Marx to understand it completely. " I would’ve called myself a socialist before but I guess I’m a social democrat? But the phrase social democrat sounds kinda silly to me tho," As far as I know social democracy emerged when leftist wanted to split up from communists. Communism, while being democratic, needs, according to most communists, a revolution to be achieved. Social democrats believed in reforms and parliamentary democracy to achieve a better, more social system. Hence social democracy. Nowadays they mostly are pro capitalism and don't believe in socialism anymore
2019-07-20 21:00
What a dumb response, communism inherently requires a totalitarian state because that is the only way to prevent the more capable from rising above the rest and becoming substantially more successful. Without a very powerful and overbearing government, some guy who is really strong or smart will naturally oppress his lessers and rule over them, this is the natural order, a hierarchy of competency. The communist state has to carefully control pretty much every aspect of everyone's life to prevent this from occuring, this is one of the reasons it's such a terrible system.
2019-07-20 20:53
if there's a state it's not communist. easy as that. if there's a state and the means of production are owned by the public, it's socialist but not communist.
2019-07-20 20:54
Communism definition: a theory or system of social organization in which all property is owned by the community and each person contributes and receives according to their ability and needs Without state to enforce community ownership, a group of strong men will enslave and rule over other, weaker people. Like a tribal society, the chief and his warriors will rule and reap the rewards of whatever is produced. Only way to stop this is what all examples of communist countries did, have a totalitarian state that rules and redistributes wealth.
2019-07-20 20:59
"In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6]" "Without state to enforce community ownership, a group of strong men will enslave and rule over other, weaker people" Why should that happen?
2019-07-20 21:01
Because it is natural, normal and healthy for a competent person to reap the rewards of their skills. Never in history has a society existed where the strong dont exploit the weak unless a stronger power holds them in place. Why should a skilled hunter share with the collective when he can attain a much higher quality of life trading his prey for what he wants, communism goes directly against rational self interest (unless you are a loser), and therefore requires a strong state to enforce it's unnatural goals. A classless society is foolish because class is an inherent outcome of the biological differences between humans, even monkeys or wolves have class (leaders who are stronger so get more food etc). The only way to abolish class is for the state to drag everyone down to the lowest level, which requires strict control of all aspects of life, and that is why communism is a totalitarian ideaology.
2019-07-20 21:12
"Why should a skilled hunter share with the collective when he can attain a much higher quality of life trading his prey for what he wants, " Human societies were communist like for thousands of years. Hunter gatherer societies didn't trade their stuff, they made it available to everybody. It's natural that people in a society not only care about themselves but also about others. " A classless society is foolish because class is an inherent outcome of the biological differences between humans" The classes we have today don't really come from biological difference. One isn't in another class because he's bigger, stronger, or smarter. There's tons of people in the lower classes that are very intelligent. The social classes we have to day stem from ownership of capital, land or factories. Your argument is basically the default "buT wHaT aBoUt HUmAN nATuRe?"-argument as if all the leftists philosophers didn't knew how humans act. Cooperating is human nature
2019-07-20 21:22
Netherlands NELK 
Go to Reddit for this
2019-07-20 19:39
As a bottom line, you can't. It's impossible to get an unbiased view of any political party. Just know that every issue is always going to be more complicated than it seems. Theres always more to it than the surface level arguments presented by politicians and political commentators. Overall, it's a game of words, not policy. Theres no such thing as right and wrong in politics. The best thing you can do is keep that in mind.
2019-07-20 20:53
Left and right are kinda pack of ideas, it's usually two opposite ideas about anything(taxation, education, economy, social rights, military etc.). Socialism and communism are close(and leftist economic idea) but not the same thing. They both mean economically equality for everyone(but it doesn't care about people's jobs, that's the problem) but communism is more like extreme-left utopia. "Communism doesn't work" and "communism has not been tested" are both actually a true statement because it won't work thanks to some people(greed) so that kind of utopia never existed. Capitalism is a money-based system. It defends equality of opportunities instead of absolute equality like socialism. But I don't believe that word is a lie because there are lots of spoiled brats that didn't do anything but has everything thanks to their parents(which makes them advantaged compared to middle class children). USA is the perfect example for Capitalist economic system.
2019-07-20 21:07
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