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BIG roster move leak
Canada Rulerofdoge 
its been leaked that smooya will return to big by replacing gob b since he is no longer igling anymore i.imgur.com/6hwCgIq.png streamable.com/i6clw thoughts?
2019-07-21 23:57
bump
2019-07-21 23:57
everyone is better than bot b
2019-07-21 23:57
#4
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Europe Cirro 
+1
2019-07-21 23:59
God b?
2019-07-22 12:51
hi Ozgur
2019-07-22 17:49
Nice find
2019-07-21 23:58
#5
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Other zj2 
whos ingame leading?
2019-07-22 00:00
taben
2019-07-22 00:00
*tabsen
2019-07-22 12:57
#79
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India AAgOnFire 
Taben sounds good tho
2019-07-22 13:55
Feels like every time BIG makes a roster move they just downgrade
2019-07-22 00:00
There is no downgrade from this point on. Everyone is better than gob.
2019-07-22 00:00
True, but Tabsen as the sole igl, it's gonna make him play worse. They still have denis. And smooya is just gonna piss everyone off.
2019-07-22 00:07
#62
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
as long as everyone can live with banter and baits from him and takes it as fun he isnt pissing anyone off... he was pissed off because he wasnt the clear main awper and i think big realized they gonna let him play the awp fully now and tabsen will completelly be the 2nd awper
2019-07-22 13:03
Tabsen still shouldn't IGL. Take nex and remove xantares. Tabsen is such a great rufler and even awper. He should focus on his own game and frag Best lineup in my opinion Tabsen Tizian Nex Syrson Mirbit/faven
2019-07-22 14:37
-nex +k1to k1to I think best player in Germany atm, ofc he makes dumb shit but he actually carries. I hope tabsen can take his form back
2019-07-22 14:54
True. I still hope nex can find his former form
2019-07-22 15:37
Well he was always performing against tier 2/3 and he keeps leaving and coming back due to injury and k1to is hardworking no brainer. Has aim and can entryfrag and practices FPL daily so his skill is high
2019-07-22 15:42
As far as I know he's toxic and the big management doesn't like him but he's definitely the best German choice atm
2019-07-22 16:37
Well who isn't toxic when you keep losing all time
2019-07-22 16:37
Well at first you need to prove you're a higher tier player which he's done by now
2019-07-22 16:38
Well would be a good roster Don't know who to replace for igl Xantares Smooya K1to Tabsen Tizian Or make full German team: Tabsen Tizian K1to Syrson And some igl (faveN or attax one)
2019-07-22 16:56
Oh. Forgot the igl xD I liked gob as a IGL tho.... I don't like Tabsen leading, he should frag. Maybe give it to nex or Tizian? No idea... They don't look too stupid to lead tbh xD
2019-07-22 17:36
#108
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Germany Fabbsen 
Faven is IGL? Wasn't it between Denis and Spiidi
2019-07-22 17:37
#106
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Germany Fabbsen 
Tabsen kinda did the calling 50/50 with Gob i think or atleast Tabsen did take a lot of initiative in the game too as he has a really good understanding of the game. I really like your LU tho, but i think k1to should be taken instead of the last spot, Tizian already has Mirbits slot so its rather faven/k1to and k1to was more impressive to me.
2019-07-22 17:35
True. I forgot about k1to I hope they make a full German team again, I think it would be easier for all of them to communicate in mother language
2019-07-22 17:37
#112
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Germany Fabbsen 
Thats our wish for many months i guess. The Smooya change was ok as it was his mother language atleast but Xantares, he seems like a nice guy but his understanding makes it even worse in terms of communication
2019-07-22 17:43
+1 I don't the any roster with xantares succeed tbh
2019-07-22 17:46
#116
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Germany Fabbsen 
Xantares is fucked atm. His english isn't the best and there are no options in turkey rn cuz Calyx destroyed the scene and Xantares leaving affected it aswell. Kinda sad for paz aswell, he was a decent player too
2019-07-22 17:48
I don't really care about Turkish scene. I'm pretty sure SS cheated online xD
2019-07-22 17:50
#127
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Germany Fabbsen 
i don't care at all neither but its still a wasted talent and for paz its sad too. Would be nice for ngin to come back to germany aswell
2019-07-22 18:33
Well ngin was weird player tbh. Not putting up great numbers tbh
2019-07-22 18:48
#131
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Germany Fabbsen 
But he got experience and was a good clutcher. He might could teach some people
2019-07-22 20:17
+5😂😂
2019-07-22 11:46
#8
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Denmark Karrigan500IQ 
who cares unless they kick shittares
2019-07-22 00:00
You have a max. iq 40
2019-07-22 00:04
#20
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Denmark Karrigan500IQ 
nt arab
2019-07-22 00:07
You are best arab stfu idiot
2019-07-22 09:17
#63
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Russia sanyabondarev 
do you smell that? reported
2019-07-22 13:05
im not arab
2019-07-22 13:21
nt arab
2019-07-22 13:45
Xd funny kid
2019-07-22 14:30
Xd funny arab
2019-07-22 15:08
Fuck u arab
2019-07-22 20:50
why so mad arab?
2019-07-23 09:08
#122
Twistzz | 
Canada ASH1 
nt arabiaNNn
2019-07-22 17:55
Hahahahahha Nt ahmad
2019-07-23 09:14
He and tabsen are the only one above an average rating 1.12 and 1.10 to be exact so -1 at the minor
2019-07-22 00:06
#22
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Denmark Karrigan500IQ 
he doesnt fit in this team
2019-07-22 00:07
#31
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United Kingdom MOISA 
Bring in maj3r he knows how to use him properly
2019-07-22 00:56
#36
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Germany GiiGa88 
yeah and kick tabsen denis tizian, and make a full turkish lineup
2019-07-22 10:09
Maj3r is french tho
2019-07-22 10:24
engin küpeli tho
2019-07-22 17:51
#43
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United Kingdom MOISA 
What's the point of keeping Xantares if no German player can use him.. Either let him go or find a way to exploit his full potential
2019-07-22 11:01
#113
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Germany Fabbsen 
True, and his english isn't the best. Communication issues drag them down even further
2019-07-22 17:44
#10
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Europe Cirro 
emm not everyone undersand German.
2019-07-22 00:01
learn to 'undersand' German then
2019-07-22 10:06
#52
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Europe Cirro 
Yes just for some post on hltc mhm. Btw i just missed "t" by accident which looks obvious so nt dumy dumb dumb
2019-07-22 12:17
#64
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
first question: cold to faze for neo or to nrg... or even to big? answer: haha surely not to us we fucked any mibr lineup anyways i think to faze when time has come next question: and how does ur lineup look like now we fans want changes now no fun anymore answer: haha yeah we know that smooya will most likely come back until sprout players become free agents
2019-07-22 13:06
thanks for the translation good sir.
2019-07-22 14:36
I confirm, that this translation is correct.
2019-07-22 15:44
sorry i don't speak in Gaymany
2019-07-22 00:01
sorry i dont speak retard
2019-07-22 00:06
#19
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Germany Vini_1337 
#18
2019-07-22 00:06
#12
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Germany owjdb 
I hope they dont destroy sprout they are looking promising
2019-07-22 00:03
#24
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Germany QuaktheDuck 
+1 mate
2019-07-22 00:09
better 1 tier1 team than 2 tier2 teams. tabsen xantares k1to faven syrson THIS looks promising.
2019-07-22 11:59
#97
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Germany owjdb 
-xantares +tizian why should they keep him if they could go full german
2019-07-22 15:46
#115
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Germany Fabbsen 
True, first of all they couldn'T speak german and second of all it would be a team full of stars. Tizian might've been not the best fragging player but he had his games every now and then and did overall a decent job. And he made many impact frags. The entire downfall affected him a lot and made him look worse then he actually was imo
2019-07-22 17:47
#126
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Germany owjdb 
+1
2019-07-22 18:32
isn't xantares learning german? i don't think they'd kick him. and any other good fragger can play tizians positions and get more out of it i think.
2019-07-22 17:57
liquid have just shown that a team doesn't need igls and supports who can't aim. put a star player in all of these position and it works after a while.
2019-07-22 17:59
#128
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Germany owjdb 
Idk i think having a full german roster could bring them further than having another star in their team
2019-07-22 18:34
xantares = turkish = german :D he's gonna learn it.
2019-07-23 11:38
#141
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Germany owjdb 
hmm i dont think he will speak proper german
2019-07-23 11:40
wow that's racist. ;D everyone can learn german. he learned english, which is just a dumbed down version of german.
2019-07-23 11:41
#148
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Germany owjdb 
xd
2019-07-23 15:54
#13
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Germany sloth02 
For everyone who doesn't speak German gob stops playing after major and smooya plays until spout players become "free"
2019-07-22 00:04
after minor, not major :P
2019-07-22 15:45
Exactly what they need. I'm not convinced that gob is "too bad" to be in the starting lineup but that's what they think, I guess. When they had clearly defined roles it worked out well.
2019-07-22 00:06
he has a good game sometimes, but that's just not enough. you can't have a tier 1 team with two players with ratings of 0.82 and 0.87 (gob, tizian).
2019-07-22 12:03
A: leaders stats barely matter B: you take past 3 months where the team didn't work for 1 minute C: when they had clearly defined roles his ranking was much better Why am I arguing with you..
2019-07-22 13:18
discuss, not argue. :) before the 3 months gob and tizian were the weak parts of the team as well. not saying they can't be good, but they won't get to the top this way (meaning better than before). look at liquid and astralis, they don't have this kind of players. navi didn't achieve much because edward and zeus were choking 90% of the time.
2019-07-22 13:27
Considering TiziaN as the weak link of BIG is extremely retarded. Look at the positions he plays. Even at the minor, where they were complete dogshit he played excellent on train for example. You're a typical stats person and eveb then 1.0 isn't bad at all.
2019-07-22 13:33
others play these positions too and have rating above 0.87. liquid had taco to do this, look what happened when they traded stewie for him. but yes: he's extremely good on train for some reason. if he can do this on every other map, i'll be quiet.
2019-07-22 17:55
Yet again you are citing a wrong rating of him. The past 3 months everyone of them were dogshit. They didn't win play much, nor did they win ANYTHING = all their ratings go down. His rating was between 1-1.1 until they became complete dogshit after adding Xantares. You do understand the Ratin 2.0 is just the last 3 months?
2019-07-22 20:14
it was never higher than 1.01 in big. that's at best average. i'm talking about making an >1.10 player player their 'support'. would be better right?
2019-07-23 11:34
No, because putting another German, that has better ranking but never plays against top 15 in his position won't have any better outcome.
2019-07-23 13:00
who in astralis and liquid plays the same positions? i don't see anyone below 1.0 rating there. there are just better options.
2019-07-23 13:45
#18
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Germany Vini_1337 
german translation chelios: cold to faze? or nrg ? or to big ??? kakafu(big coach): haha no way. we f..ked every mibr lineup. I think he will go to faze chelios: ah ok and what about your lineup? fans want to see changes kakafu: haha , ye we know. gobb will step down after the minor and smooya will come back till the sprout players are free agents tldr.: -gobb after minor + smooya until maybe sprout players become free agents/buyout
2019-07-22 00:06
danke schloen
2019-07-22 12:48
#23
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Spain Holiwis 
nice find
2019-07-22 00:08
#25
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Sweden Akoulad 
still a bad team
2019-07-22 00:09
#26
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United States danyals4241 
LOL, RIP BIG. gob b was the only thing holding them together.
2019-07-22 00:09
this is pretty much german faze. move their star player to igl and kick their former igl after and regret it later
2019-07-22 00:26
#53
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Europe Cirro 
True but still hes their problem but instead they should take igl in -dennis and tske smooya or other awp in
2019-07-22 12:21
You have no clue. Lineup with gob worked well when they had defined roles. Denis hasn't shown anything because they burned him to play the awp. If a proper awp comes back, denis will play a lot better.
2019-07-22 13:20
How stupid is this to bring smooya back only temporary till Sprout players are free? This leads to nowhere but changes again and again. This org must be really managed by idiots
2019-07-22 00:48
#29
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Turkey Zeria_ 
+1
2019-07-22 00:49
I agree lol. They will never have enough time to stabilize the team. Especially now that tabsen is leading them. He is inexperienced.
2019-07-22 00:51
He's been in the top scene for 6+ years now. Pretty much the most experience, knowledge behind gob. Even in 1.6 8+ years ago he played some international events.
2019-07-22 13:27
Yes. He has experience as a player, not a leader. Leading is not that easy. It takes time and talent.
2019-07-22 15:05
And he's the one to do it, dumbo
2019-07-22 15:50
#32
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United Kingdom MOISA 
Rip tabsen... Who's gonna stop all those good players trying to be igls
2019-07-22 01:00
#34
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Germany N4ime 
Any prove that this is real?
2019-07-22 10:02
#37
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Turkey mustim 
So they removed the only player that could communicate with one of their top fraggers? They should remove denis and gob b, bench Xantares until his English/German gets better and pick up more German talent? Smooya is a good reintroduction talent wise, despite the fact I don’t like his personality.
2019-07-22 10:10
#38
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Turkey mustim 
Assuming this is true, of course.
2019-07-22 10:10
#61
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
gob will still be the coach at all and ingame xantares should have an okayish level of english... so in the backround gob will still be able to explain everything
2019-07-22 12:59
He should have improved his English enough since he joined the team. Also if you ask me god b explaining things prevents from him learning English way more efficient.
2019-07-22 15:22
#91
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Turkey mustim 
Hey, that actually sounds quite reasonable. In that case, give Gob B the coaching role, let Tabsen learn from Gob B, remove denis for smooya and have another German player join. They also need to get Xantares to change his mindset. He is a talented player but the whole ‘go off on your own and kill someone’ tactic has to change.
2019-07-22 15:28
Go full german pls. Tabsen Tizian Krystal (IGL) Syrson K1to Gob b (coach) If u bring smooya, then just go international ffs : Tabsen Xantares Smooya Tizian Maj3r (IGL) Gob b (coach)
2019-07-22 10:20
#65
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Turkey deproxyNN 
I think if MAJ3R would be the ingame leader, he needs to communicate with his team all the time. So, he would not communicate with this team healthy because he is speaking french, turkish and english. But there is noone that speaks french. Only xantares and gob speaks turkish so this isn't good too. If we talk about english, maybe tizian and tabsen can't understand.
2019-07-22 13:10
#40
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Germany PeKay 
Lol they try to destroy sprout But this is a bait by kakafu the Management is the worst i have ever seen
2019-07-22 10:25
+1
2019-07-22 12:45
#42
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Belgium jorneiro 
With Tabsen IGLing BIG will become the german Faze but with shit players
2019-07-22 10:25
+1 hahahahha
2019-07-22 11:41
Not really, no. This dude has more knowledge than 99% of pros. You see it in his playstyle. His nades, movement, positioning etc. This dude is the definition of hard worker.
2019-07-22 13:26
"We fucked every MIBR lineup :D" xaxaxaxa Mibr_never_won_against_BIG
2019-07-22 11:41
gob b, tizian, denis. all shit..
2019-07-22 11:43
#47
s1mple | 
Germany NatsuS 
Kakafu "shit I can't close the window fuck fuck ok lets make it big again" LUL
2019-07-22 11:46
HAHHAHAHHAHa
2019-07-22 12:48
he panicked I think lmao
2019-07-22 12:48
#51
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Germany Youngnibba 
I like it Tabsen calling Smooya awp Denis can be entry again Tizian support Xantares fragger
2019-07-22 12:05
#59
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Germany GoBIG0rGoHome 
love kakafu :D <3 now -denis +faven/k1to as well and its gonna be so ez
2019-07-22 12:56
Syrson awp Tabsen igl (only because gob apparently doesnt play anymore) Tizian rifle Kito rifle Denis rifle Until this doesn't happen, you won't have the best possible German lineup.
2019-07-22 13:24
Well nex over Denis if he recovers at some point... If not, then faven over Denis. I agree with the rest tho :)
2019-07-22 14:32
#73
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Netherlands davin 
wtf is this ORG doing
2019-07-22 13:30
shit move
2019-07-22 13:35
I just saw the stream. Hahaha, what a move. Oh my.
2019-07-22 13:38
For our Brazilian fans: "Coldzera not for us. We fucked every mibr lineup so hard :-)"
2019-07-22 13:43
BIG should really go full German lineup
2019-07-22 14:33
#85
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Europe Cr3eP_70 
To the youngsters and newfags, you should have the utmost respect by Gob-B...! Back in 2010, a great player called Cyx, die on a car crash on his way from the airport, after missing a flight to join his team, Mousesports at IEM5. This was probably the 1st big shock to CS community as he was 19 years old and in fact an amazing player. Gob B, was the only one that was able to pick up the pieces of an emmotionally destroyed team and acted as a father and mother to his teamates, despite his own pain... For me, Gob B will always stand high, as a player but mostly as a Man, great companion and an example to the entire community!
2019-07-22 14:50
#99
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Germany NatsuS 
Kapio was at this time IGL. I think everyone has a part in this chapter of their lives. But nowadays gob sells shit big bags to get his paycheck. I mean everyone has merchandise but no one of them make cringe YouTube videos.
2019-07-22 15:49
#101
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Europe Cr3eP_70 
Yes, Kapio, Roman, Cyx, Gob and someone else that I do not remember right now and feeling lazy (sorry) to check it... Understand your point nowadays. Honestly, I cannot be harsh to anyone that do what's necessary to keep his paycheck coming... It's called surviving. And, if this is done on an honest matter, I can't care less about it as, It will always my choice to watch it or not. Point is that when someone asks a legend like GTR who else, further than all IGLS he had, would he like to have as IGL, the answer is Gob-B, based on the respect and longivity on the scene...
2019-07-22 15:55
Just go full international Tabsen Xantares Smooya Kio Flusha
2019-07-22 14:57
Imagine the team chemistry works fine. This would be the most skilled team and top1 contender.
2019-07-22 17:59
Why does the best player of the team always end up igling lul?
2019-07-22 15:44
I hope they dont players from sprout again
2019-07-22 15:46
hahaha fake chelleos xDD
2019-07-22 17:38
#111
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Serbia d1ckson 
Bringing Xantares was the worst roster move they made. Gob, tabsen, smooya, tizian and nex was their best team
2019-07-22 17:39
+100000 and with this move their neverending roster change started because nothing was working
2019-07-22 20:55
#136
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Serbia d1ckson 
Exactly. Smooya was gob's kid, he taught him so much. He became way less toxic, and carried the team imo
2019-07-22 21:36
the more important hint is "bis die sprout spieler frei werden" ;)
2019-07-22 17:49
#132
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
bring smooya back gob b can be a coach after roster move
2019-07-22 20:18
#135
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Brazil hugoooo 
Wtf gob b is not leading? Why the fuck he's still ob the team? His only purpose as a player, is go be the IGL, his firepower is one of the lowest. Now I understand why BIG is sucking so hard lately.
2019-07-22 20:58
#142
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Turkey M@CHINE 
Xantares yolo player majer best igl for xantares tabseN sc entry smooooooya awp mirbit best support for majer
2019-07-23 11:40
how can they bring smooya back after he quit on them?
2019-07-23 11:42
Good move if they make gob b coach. He still has good game plans but he can't play. Pls also kick denis
2019-07-23 13:48
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