Its ok americans are brainwashed into thinking everything they do is perfect so
yeah the only bad thing is people having to wait longer than they already do to see a doctor. If we all had free healthcare here it would literally be a shit show. Look at canada, no offense.
Universal healthcare is linked with the illegal immigrant problem, which already has a projected cost of trillions of dollars. In this case, even if we do cut the military budget, the cost would still be too high.
Premiums blow ass, everyone knows it, but an alternative is yet to be found because it is utter foolishness to look at problems in isolation like you are right now; it's just baiting to get an upvote for a commonly known fact.
Nobody supports it. It should be further privatized to increase competitiveness and thus lower prices and increase quality.
Funny how Finland mad now...
ENCE losing so they bring up NA HeAlThCAre.... pathetic
Trump is actually one of the best presidents america has had in recent times
im sorry for bad title, when i said NA healthcare i was talking about american healthcare, not including canadian. i should have titled the post as USA healthcare.
"i have 30% body fat and i'm happy with that"
"it's not important how you look. important how u feel in yours body"
and one more - they think that lgbt movement is normal.
washed up sheeps burgers i hate them so hard
Actually from what I've read, hospital knows most people can't afford to pay the full bill so they just take what the patient can pay. Basically you can negotiate your medical bill on the tel.. Wtf
how does that have anything to do with the thread ?
Only about half like the healthcare system as it is. Unfortunately, those tend to be conservatives who are scared of "Socialism". It's nuts, really.
It's a web that can't be untangled. Capitalism has its advantages in terms of promoting competition to make the best products at best prices, but for healthcare it's horrible:
All hospitals are ultimately businesses. They aren't doing it to necessarily make themselves rich but to hire more staff, buy fancier equipment, expand facilities to bed more patients. They do this by charging crazy amounts for healthcare. One thing the insurance companies do is contract with healthcare providers ultimately limiting how much try can charge for procedures. This is actually to the benefit of the patient. So these massive insurance companies get a bunch of people to buy their insurance and then they tell the hospital here is how much we will pay for X Y and Z, and if you don't like it we are sending our customer base to your competitors.
Long story short, while insurance companies buffer the cost of healthcare, they also are businesses which want to maximize profit so they limit what type of medicine and procedures they will cover. At the end, those with the most expensive to treat diseases suffer, and those with the least amount of disease suffer since we pay the premium, don't use the service, and can't leave because we get federally fined for not having health insurance.
A little insight from an American ;D
Medicare for all has majority support and hopefully it will be implemented soon. The USA has arguably the best healthcare in the world outside of cost, so if we switch to single payer we could become the top healthcare nation practically overnight. Fingers crossed.
Of course it's great when you have an accident, e.g. getting your hand into a saw and at the hospital they ask you which finger you want to keep, thumb $15000, middle finger $10000. Oh I can only pay one. LUL
i love how an ence fan is talking about .... our healthcare ... after chicago...
tbh I'd rather use such system, taking croatia for example if we exclude visint a doctor when you have the flu which is like 1 visit in 5 years or less I never really had a chance to say that I like really needed medics, yes as an example I can say thank you for checking me up when I had a car crash for example(no injuries) but for anything more serious I have to go to the private clinic and pay because normal hospital just couldn't solve my problems..
Paying a bit more taxes? Most of what you pay the state is for health care, only a small part are actual taxes. Yeah, there are benefits, like when you have illnesses and probably the price overall is smaller. But lot of people are acting like in europe you pay 50$ for health insurance.
NA =/= just USA
Canada healthcare is similar to that of EU countries which is quote and quote free.
It has advantages, it has disadvantages. One of which being that wait times can be long.
yes my bad i did try to clarify on a later message. the thread title is wrong since i meant usa healthcare rather than whole NA.
The way americans think universal healthcare would work is Just wrong. That's why No one wants it there. The 3 trillion is a straight up lie If you would like at other countries and how it works there.
we pay for insurance, but we also have some of the highest quality care available on the planet.
My taxes would prob go up more than im paying for premium. I only pay $60/month and get amazing coverage. My employer pays the rest. Why should I be paying the medical bill of these crackheads who live in the alley.
universal health care is trash though?
Brainwashed people who vote against their own interest. Small businesses would benefit from a government run healthcare system, the American people would benefit. The only people who don't are insurance companies.
not existent. US = 3rd world country
Don't get all this shit about universal healthcare and the waiting time being bad? We have universal healthcare here and I have never been told to wait, neither has anyone in my family or my friends. I think a lot of people are over-exaggerating about the problems in universal healthcare. I think most people wouldn't mind the American system if it wasn't so overpriced and in ridiculous fashion.
My maximum out of pocket per year is $1800 for my family, so I will keep my insurance over your taxes.
I'd kill for a public healthcare system. Here it's privatized yet mandatory, the cheapest one is almost 300$/month and gets you almost nothing.