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autimatic | 
United Kingdom Consistent 
Liquid: Not much to say, best in the world rn and it seems they're over their history of choking. But a major is a different story for a lot of teams and they could still mess it up (Personally they're the favourites for me though). Na'vi: I know, I know but hear me out. They match up well against liquid, they may not be the 2nd best team in the world (Then again, they could be, we just haven't seen enough yet), but if they made it to the final they are probably the only team with a chance against liquid right now. They also match up pretty well against Vitality with the s1mple/zywoo dynamic, and Ence aren't impressing me the way they used to. That being said... Astralis: Still a great team, as much as I disagree with their actions over the past few months. They could pick things back up for the major and there's always a chance they can beat liquid. They can also upset teams like Vitality on the right day. Vitality: It may seem strange that I've put vitality below na'vi and Astralis but the fact is Liquid is their krypronite. As much as people disagree with stewie, he was right. Vitality have zywoo but liquid play in a way that gives them 5 zywoos. All of them can out-frag zywoo on the right day and they are an all around better team. That being said, they're still the 2nd best team in the world in my opinion and if somehow they dodge liquid I'd say the major could be theirs.
2019-07-22 13:41
Any thoughts? Or additions.
2019-07-22 13:42
Liquid most likely win if they don't fuck up hard. Astralis prepares A LOT for majors, so they will be good I think. Na'Vi has also had a lot of time without playing tournaments, so maybe they are hungry to win a big one. Although I doubt it will happen with bot zeus on the roster, they can get deep. NRG will not win. No chance whatsoever. Mouz looking good but losing 2-0 to top5 teams. I dont think vitality is going to win either, they rely too much on Zywoo. Theres a world in which they dont make it to major legends because Zywoo has an off day and other players are shit. I think either Liquid or Astralis will win, maybe a Na'Vi has a small chance LUL.
2019-07-22 14:04
stopped reading at Liquid
2019-07-22 13:42
#9
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
+1
2019-07-22 13:44
#20
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget1 
+1
2019-07-22 13:50
+1
2019-07-22 14:06
For once a well thought thread actually exist in hltv and yet you're toxic
2019-07-22 15:45
What’s toxic in that lol
2019-07-22 18:32
+1
2019-07-22 19:20
no big no major
2019-07-22 13:42
#4
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Canada kniGhtlife 
I'm going to say ENCE is an obvious wildcard/contender outside that bunch listed, obviously. I would bet 99% of all I own it's one of those 5 teams. ;) Either way, super excited for it.
2019-07-22 13:42
True, I just didn't list them because I really do not know where they're at. I just cant tell. If this was ence 5 months ago I'd say yeah, they're 2nd or 3rd favourites. But I've just not got a good read on them recently, and given the bo5 yesterday it doesn't look great for them in my opinion.
2019-07-22 13:46
#5
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
CR4ZY: will pounce on liquid's ass in new legends stage. they will buttfuck them so hard they'll disband the second after the match. #dontfakeit
2019-07-22 13:43
#15
cR4zY | 
Myanmar xdcc 
CR4ZY: made mousesports disband after Katowice Minor. destroyed Fnatic's all major attendance. gave North 3rd place minor play-in so they could fail again and become meme team. Liquid, Astralis never won against them.
2019-07-22 13:47
#16
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
+1
2019-07-22 13:48
+1
2019-07-22 14:11
#6
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
G2 has a good chance against liquid, look at the last bo3
2019-07-22 13:43
#10
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United States Zytoep 
A COACH
2019-07-22 13:44
#17
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
that was 1 match dude :)
2019-07-22 13:48
just like 1 good match vs liquid...
2019-07-22 14:26
#32
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
true but at epl s9 g2 won 1 map and lost 2 in OT, thats pretty close mens))) G2 could even have won that, on dust2 stewie did vac flick that won them the game and on inferno twistzz had 1hp 1v3 clutch :( Could have been 3-1 for G2
2019-07-22 14:29
but its still the same argument as he used...then they lost to freaking mibr with coach:DD
2019-07-22 14:33
Thats actually a really good dark horse. But then again, I've not seen much from them since pro league, at least not against top teams.
2019-07-22 13:44
ZywooTality ???????????
2019-07-22 13:43
the problem with ence is vitality and liquid, they cant win them :( but iidk the seeding will be very important
2019-07-22 13:44
>krypronite chinease fake the flagger
2019-07-22 13:45
MonkaS
2019-07-22 13:47
Pog but obviously Liquid are the favorites and Astralis could be #2. A final between these two would be great if the major had B05. Wouldn't put NaVi and Vitality cuz they rely waaaay too much on S1mple/Zywhwohwo. Next legends: Liquid Vitality Navi Astralis NRG ENCE Mouse G2 / Furia (dunno, one of them, yes)
2019-07-22 13:55
#30
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France FanchD 
FaZe ? I know they didnt show a lot of good things since NEO joined but maybe they can reach the playoff instead of mouz / G2
2019-07-22 14:19
Fnatic Oh wait:(
2019-07-22 13:49
#19
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
:( so sad mens
2019-07-22 13:50
where's faze
2019-07-22 13:50
On the plane
2019-07-22 13:58
faze is thinking about disbanding
2019-07-22 14:35
nt clown9
2019-07-22 14:35
INTZ kNgV- 1v9 team liquid
2019-07-22 13:56
#26
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
NiP?
2019-07-22 14:05
I don't think so. Unless golden is an instant fix for them. Could certainly make playoffs, but winning isn't something I see happening.
2019-07-22 14:09
they will go 0-3 bro
2019-07-22 14:35
#45
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
Please don't say this
2019-07-22 15:26
ok they will go 1-3 because mibr and renegades 0-3
2019-07-22 15:36
#49
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
That's better
2019-07-22 15:48
Liquid, Astralis - my favorites Ence, Vitality: depends on how they will prepare for the major NaVi: if boombl4 will give his positive energy to the team and flamie wont be in bot mode, so maybe... Faze: only with lucky play-off and somehow win in final with insane skill
2019-07-22 14:30
astralis is bad right now :(
2019-07-22 14:35
#39
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Russia anleet 
Agreed only with NaVi and Liquid. Vitality can't win major in this lineup i think and Astralis seems poor. Maybe mousesports but i don't think so So NaVi or Liquid and probably Liquid 1st place NaVi 2nd place
2019-07-22 14:37
blessRNG Na'Vi
2019-07-22 14:37
#41
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India MihirX27 
There are 2 scenarios that are actually more likely than Liquid winning the Major: Teams like NRG and G2 are on the Rise, and cannot be predicted at all. Renegades have seemed to lost their groove, although I hope they bounce back. Hellraisers are Infamous for Upsets under ANGE1's calling, you never know. I guess I'll wait for the CIS/Asia Minor to look for more information. As you said, Astralis Prepares Hard for the Majors; they could've saved strats since god knows when. I think we might have a ELEAGUE Atlanta on our hands; where Astralis meets a team nobody really expected to Plow Through. (Yeah, VP was a good team, but Major Finals, in 2017? That's was a stretch of a Prediction )
2019-07-22 14:39
Teams which will 100% make it into the playoffs : Liquid, Astralis, Na'Vi , Vitality and NRG Teams with 60%-80% chances for playoffs : ENCE, mouz and G2 Teams with 50/50 chances for playoffs : NiP and MiBR ( if they play like they did at Chicago I think they can pull off a nice playoffs entry with a 3-2 score, not seeing them higher than that) For the record, I don't think FaZe, FURIA and RNG can get into the top 8
2019-07-22 14:44
totally agree, but I dont think Zywootality will be able to show anything. Le Tank can deliver, but he is way too inconsistent to hope for it. Alex can have great games with impact frags, but only if he's believing in himself and the team is 'on the run'. Otherwise he is a bot peeking mid doors every rnd and dying
2019-07-22 14:52
#44
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Argentina jturi 
1. Astralis: They are the favorites without a doubt. The last champions and, beyond having lost some last matches and tournaments, still have the discipline and qualities to be among the referents to win the Major. 2. Liquid: They also come as one of the favorites to win the tournament. They come from a string of triumphs that give them enormous pressure, being the No. 1 team. 3. NaVi: After months of inactivity they can be a surprise. We already know the potential they have with Edward. So we will see how their performance will be with the new player. 4. Ence: Over the past months they have formed a strong foundation. They have good tactics and good players. I hope they play thinking day by day and not commit the sin of wanting to be in a final without first playing all the games. 5. Nip: I would love to see their potential with Golden as IGL. For me they will be the surprise-revelation. 6. Vitality: As much as they have experienced players, been playing a Major again will be encouraging and will provoque many nerves in them. Winning the first game will be vital. 7 & 8. NRG & Mousesports: With nothing to lose, they will fight all the maps with a strong tactics and good firepower.
2019-07-22 15:12
Astralis are not the favourites. There's no debating that liquid is better. But the rest is alright.
2019-07-22 19:06
#59
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Argentina jturi 
IMO are both: Astralis & Liquid :) I think the team defending the crown MUST BE always considered a candidate. Thanks for your comment!
2019-07-23 13:57
I mean, they're yet to beat liquid since they started their dominance, I wouldn't say gambit or C9 were a candidate at the next major after they won either. Astralis are in my top 4, as I showed. But there's no way they're favourites over Liquid. I can understand you putting them equally but putting astralis as 1 and liquid as 2 was misleading :P
2019-07-23 14:35
-Vitality completely agree
2019-07-22 15:41
Facts or just your dumb opinion
2019-07-22 18:34
What?
2019-07-22 19:16
#53
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Lithuania Sealll 
I think Navi will win the major
2019-07-22 19:15
#55
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Poland krechu 
Navi/liquid
2019-07-22 19:16
I think Astralis will bounce back.
2019-07-22 19:34
#58
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Germany JoooookER 
i dont think astralis will turn it around so quickly (but it would be nice to see top astralis against top iquid) and i am not sure about that good matchup against liquid for navi with their history
2019-07-22 19:38
I don't think astralis will bounce back either, but I know that they're still a good team and are a shoe-in for playoffs. Na'vi, in my opinion, are on track to becoming the 2nd best team in the world. They've been there before and I'd love to see them be number one some time soon but they're very good from the small things we've seen from them (as long as s1mple shows up). But yeah, I can see why you'd have doubts.
2019-07-23 14:38
CR4ZY underdogs
2019-07-23 14:37
That prediction is... crazy XDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-07-23 14:38
#64
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Ukraine niXoN|w1 
1st: Liquid 2nd: mousesports 3rd-4th: Vitality, Natus Vincere 5-8th: ENCE, NRG, Astralis, FURIA 9-11th: CR4ZY, NiP, FaZe 12-14th: G2, mibr, Spirit 15-16th: AVANGAR, Renegades
2019-07-23 14:48
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