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there are only 3 t1 teams rn
f0rest | 
Russia gpo4u_Mou_xyu_ce6e_B_poT 
god damn nowdays cs is shit. we have liquid, astralis and probably navi a few words about vitality VITALITY t1???? lmao nbkek(retire ffs, dont do this to your great carrer) rpgay - old trash alex - hahahaha, he joined this squad cuz there arent any french who didnt play with nbk yet zywoo - ok, t1 player i cant even remember who the fuck is their 5th player. oh, its apex. hahahahahahahha, apex. i dont even wanna say something about it. ence - cmon guys. just take fucking sunny in your squad and probably one day you can call yourself a t1 team. nrg, faze, fnatic, mibr, g2 - thats what i call a SHIT.
2019-07-23 09:20
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Astralis losing to all of the "fake T1 teams" nt
2019-07-23 09:22
ok i only remember they lost vs ence a couple month ago when they were in the worst shape ever, accidental defeat vs nrg and superunlucky game vs vitality. it will not happen again for sure.
2019-07-23 09:28
#19
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao 
Yeah, against ence, vitality, nrg, furia, but obviously it will not happen again hahahaha
2019-07-23 09:51
astralis is shit, nrg vitality ence > BLASTRALIS
2019-07-23 09:25
no you
2019-07-23 09:29
bro what did u spect 10 years with vp, envy, fnatic and sk in top 5 ??????
2019-07-23 09:34
vp, envy, fnatic, sk, NIP, NAVI, TSM. even c9 were decent. flipside(LMAO) played ok. we had a lot of nice t2 teams and 6-7 solid t1 teams
2019-07-23 09:39
now we have ence, vitality, nrg, faze, furia, liquid, g2... different teams, and right now being in the top 30 is very hard. Did u spect get_right and olof being top1 for 6 years or what
2019-07-23 09:41
#17
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Denmark Xipingu 
In terms of form, sure. In terms of achievements, not even close.
2019-07-23 09:44
in terms of achievements? what have astralis done those last months besides dodging LAN?
2019-07-23 09:59
#36
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Denmark Xipingu 
Astralis has 3 majors and a grand slam, this year a major. ENCE and NRG has none of that. FaZe, fnatic etc even less.
2019-07-23 10:53
Sry mister fanboy But astralis is shit rn
2019-07-23 10:55
#41
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Denmark Xipingu 
Doesn’t change that they have more achievements than any other team. 3 majors AND a grand slam - which was my point. Also why I said “in terms of form”
2019-07-23 10:58
When was the last time asstralis actually won a relevant event? They doesnt deserve top 5 rn
2019-07-23 11:02
#49
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Denmark Xipingu 
Trolling or can’t read, idk which one. Astralis is the team with the most achievements. That’s all I said
2019-07-23 11:46
Bringing past achievements in a thread discussing present form. Doesnt make sense
2019-07-23 11:50
#52
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Denmark Xipingu 
I acknowledged the form, then felt like saying the other thing as well. If that’s too much for you, I got a bucket for you right here: \_/
2019-07-23 14:04
#63
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Germany Fabbsen 
If they don't deserve Top5 because they haven't won any event lately, why Ence for example is in Top 5? Ence never won a relevant event besides Starseries which is a year ago. I think the real ranking will be shown at the major. If Astralis does bad there, then yes they don't deserve this. But if they get a Semifinal finish atleast like at Cologne i would still say they're Top5 and Tier 1
2019-07-23 14:49
You say Astralis have 3 majors, so you are counting achievements from the beginning of 2017 years ago. How the fuck can you say that fnatic and faze have achieved less than ENCE or NRG since the beginning of 2017 lmfaooooooooo
2019-07-23 14:08
#58
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Denmark Xipingu 
Less than Astralis, not less than ENCE and NRG. Sorry if that came off wrong, which I can see it did. My bad
2019-07-23 14:27
Alright np
2019-07-23 14:43
yes im saying form
2019-07-23 11:39
#50
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Denmark Xipingu 
Great, then you are right +1
2019-07-23 11:48
Still can't believe Astralis lost to Flukia twice.
2019-07-23 09:25
the greatest luck in cs history
2019-07-23 09:29
Losing to FURIA and ENCE like that on Nuke ruined their previously strong map pool. They aren't even confident in picking it anymore.
2019-07-23 09:30
#8
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South Africa nimmaJ 
0/8
2019-07-23 09:31
#10
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Hungary EZ4WINLANDIA 
So what's your definition if tier 1? Most people call a team tier 1 when they fight for the trophy almost every event. Vitality falls into that group I'm pretty sure, but I don't see how astralis or navi with just one event could.
2019-07-23 09:37
t1 - i am watching a great game t2 - i am watching a game with bloody tears in my eyes t3-t100 - i am not watching this game lmao
2019-07-23 09:43
#20
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao 
0/8
2019-07-23 09:53
lmao imagine watching a great game while zeus and flamie are on the server
2019-07-23 09:59
#25
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0 
True Also cry is free for faze
2019-07-23 10:21
#32
MINISE | 
Europe Cirro 
-1 bullshit, zeus stepped up lately, flamie too. Either way zeus doesn't have to be amazing fragger when he has s1mple in the team so nt. And their matches are pretty cool to watch too
2019-07-23 10:49
#55
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Finland santedek 
lol, take ur head out of ur ass cis fangirl, they are trash and everybody knows that
2019-07-23 14:10
Ok so navi have played 1 event in like 3 months and lost in semis, tier 1 right? Also BLASStralis is top 6 or top5 only :D
2019-07-23 09:41
ence played 2 events in like 2 months and lost every fucking game in group stage on the first event, and were totally smashed in the final on the second event (this road to the final was a fluke obv)
2019-07-23 09:47
#34
MINISE | 
Europe Cirro 
Mby not fluke but only shitty teams on their way. 1. Rng- lmao bitch pls 2. Heroic- getting better but still not top 10 team 3. Mibr- well i guess no need to say anything
2019-07-23 10:52
#56
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Finland santedek 
navi is still shit team
2019-07-23 14:10
if you tried to hurt my feelings - nt then. i dont care about navi.
2019-07-23 14:41
u bitch really think ence is "fluking". Let us compare BLASStralis cryboys favorite team astralis since major: 1st at blast sao paolo, 4th at blast miami, 2nd at blast madrid 5-6th at ecs finals(losing to furia twice lmao), 5-6th at epl finals s9, 4th at cologne. Ence since major: Blast sao paolo 3rd(fucked by format), 5-8th at starladder s7 losing to the champion, 1st at blast madrid(beating astralis' ass twice in 1 day), 3rd at summit, 2nd at dh dallas, 13-16th at cologne, 2nd at iem chicago. BLASStralis have made 2 finals, winning 1 since the major(5 months ago lmao) Ence have made 3 finals since major, won 1 lost 2. Ence>ASStralis. Astralis are so shit they have to skip all events lmao.
2019-07-23 21:17
hahahahahahaha you really think i am gonna waste my time reading this?)) HHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHA
2019-07-24 07:58
#14
shox | 
France KR1MEZ 
nt tier 3 f0rest
2019-07-23 09:42
f0rest > shox
2019-07-23 10:12
#35
MINISE | 
Europe Cirro 
+1
2019-07-23 10:53
#44
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France Malo0o 
lol
2019-07-23 11:00
+1
2019-07-23 14:09
Right
2019-07-24 08:04
Nt ruski
2019-07-23 09:42
#21
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao 
Flag checks out
2019-07-23 09:53
astralis > vitality even though vitality beat astralis and astralis has shown fuck all the last 4 months?
2019-07-23 10:23
what the fuck are you talking about? 4 months? the first shitty event for astralis happend in the middle of april on bo1ast miami then they lost in final vs ence in blast madrid then they fucked up versus furia in groups 1:2 vs liquid in 1/4 or 1/2 in epl 1:2 vs vitality in 1/2 in cologne last three month are awful ONLY cuz its astralis. if it was vitality, ence, navi, nrg etc you would say this run was ok
2019-07-23 10:39
what did vitality win this year? ecs? good job. astralis got their 2nd major in a row.
2019-07-23 10:42
#37
MINISE | 
Europe Cirro 
+1
2019-07-23 10:55
#47
nitr0 | 
Kazakhstan Justaguy 
Nice arguments lul. We are talking about form of teams right now, not at start of the year
2019-07-23 11:23
fuck this shit. gonna change my name rn
2019-07-23 10:44
now come fight with me
2019-07-23 10:46
I love HLTV for the fact that there are people like you, no namers from dark areas of the earth thinking they posses knowledge of counter strike that does not even exceed 10% of what those pros know/have accomplished so you can analyze pro players with 1 sentence and ignoring majority of things simply because you cease to understand them with your chicken brain :D
2019-07-23 10:51
Reply needs to have actual content
2019-07-23 10:57
Can only reply to no content with no content.
2019-07-23 10:58
reported then
2019-07-23 10:59
#62
mika | 
Spain VIKTORAL 
reported reddit kiddo
2019-07-23 14:47
the only childish material is the OP post and your comment, tard
2019-07-23 16:59
#68
mika | 
Spain VIKTORAL 
get a life nerd
2019-07-23 17:01
#40
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France Alpha7a2 
"navi" pretty sure u're just a hatefull guy that can't accept the changes
2019-07-23 10:58
i am peacefull af. i like liquid, i am in love with twistzz (he is sexy af), i like nbk. the only person i hate is apex. dont ask why, i cant answer
2019-07-23 11:01
navi t1 HAHAHAHHAAHAHHA
2019-07-23 14:13
They are doing pretty good Better than any team except liquid
2019-07-24 08:08
#61
mika | 
Spain VIKTORAL 
+1, 2015 2016 2017 was best era for csgo rip cs nowadays i will wait until next game is released
2019-07-23 14:47
What was navi result at Cologne remind me?
2019-07-23 14:49
worst thing is i dont think this is bait
2019-07-23 15:48
#66
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Europe GregoryH 
Navi?? Haahah just a stupid russian fan to think that bullshit Navi is even worse than mousesports atm
2019-07-23 15:53
Wanna get some links?
2019-07-24 08:09
ok Gregory #73
2019-07-24 08:31
GamerLegion
2.39
HAVU
1.55
Natus Vincere
1.91
Vitality
1.86
Astralis
1.05
Complexity
9.10
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