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If Astralis win the next major
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
It's gonna be sad for TL, cause even though they won 6 tournaments, astralis would've won the 2 majors of the year, which kinda kills the hype of TL's era. Astralis would have 4 majors, while Liquid 0. Let's hope they don't fix their shit on this break, cause it would be pretty sad if they won the major over liquid.
2019-07-23 16:47
#1
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Sweden 0sko 
Will cheer for astralis every day over liquid
2019-07-23 16:48
#2
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Why? Lol
2019-07-23 16:49
#7
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Sweden 0sko 
Because they are so dominet rn
2019-07-23 16:51
#9
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Not more dominant than what astralis used to be
2019-07-23 16:51
#15
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Norway Domysful 
Astralis have never won 6 t1 event in a row.
2019-07-23 16:54
#17
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
They still won 12 outta 16, 2 of them majors. And TL won 5 in a row.
2019-07-23 16:57
#28
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Norway Domysful 
They won 6 in a row. Cs summit is not a t1 tournament.
2019-07-23 17:39
#30
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Why not? Vitality, Liquid, Ence, g2 were there. If cs summit isn't tier 1, then sydney, DH masters and IEM Chicago are not either.
2019-07-23 18:18
Syndey and Dallas weren't tier one either
2019-07-23 20:08
G2? Wtf
2019-07-23 20:52
Why are you talking about summit
2019-07-24 01:17
#38
nitr0 | 
Kazakhstan Justaguy 
They actually did
2019-07-23 19:19
When did this happen?
2019-07-23 20:16
#68
nitr0 | 
Kazakhstan Justaguy 
hltv.org/stats/teams/events/6665/Astrali.. From Chicago to blast sao paulo. IBP not in count cause it's not big event, but if you want to count it you should to count liquid's 2nd place at summit as well, so it's only 5 in a row for liquid and 4 for astralis
2019-07-23 20:49
#72
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India Hafnex 
Neither has some 1 gone 20 undefeated on Inferno and Nuke
2019-07-23 20:52
#98
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
Blast wasbt really a t1 event tho the 2nd best team in the event was faze xD Still imoresive streak tho
2019-07-23 22:55
Y'all getting worried about Liquid and Astralis when it's Complexity vs Renegades in the Grand Finals.
2019-07-23 16:57
#20
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Keep sleeping on cr4zy
2019-07-23 16:58
#53
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North America soggu 
You CR4ZY fanboy. Give me ONE reason RIGHT NOW you absolute moron of a human being as to why we should not be sleeping on CR4ZY because the fact of the matter is if you watched them preform at that event - if you opened your GODDAMN eyes that your mother you- err fucking
2019-07-23 19:49
LOLOLOLOLOLOL good ole Chad aka Spunj
2019-07-23 20:17
#21
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United States fatburger 
Vp have next era in 2020 though
2019-07-23 16:59
#26
ropz | 
Netherlands Lil_p33p 
+1
2019-07-23 17:09
#10
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Denmark McMuffin 
+1
2019-07-23 16:53
+1 but navi over both of them !
2019-07-23 18:19
+1
2019-07-23 19:39
#3
shox | 
Romania KOMO_ 
NA fans are way too cocky , i was a tl supporter even tho i am from EU but these fans are way too cocky. when astralis was dominating i was really hoping that tl will be better but now i regret
2019-07-23 16:49
Same, I quite enjoyed TL at a time when they were sorta knocking onto becoming a top contender to beat Astralis in their era but now I've seen too much cockiness in the NA fans, even Astralis fans were waaaaaay better and at best you got harassed for calling Astralis "Boring". But I typically enjoy supporting the underdog more naturally because I dislike any team being at the top for too long, even if it would be my favorite one as it's way more interesting to watch when you have varying results and anyone can beat anyone. What's fun in watching something you know the result will be? I don't like "eras", better with at least 5 teams which can beat each other on any given day.
2019-07-23 16:56
#19
shox | 
Romania KOMO_ 
i agree
2019-07-23 16:57
Biggest +1 of my life
2019-07-23 17:03
+1 the way liquid fans are now were how c9 fans were before. but i guess they are the same fans...
2019-07-23 18:20
+100
2019-07-23 19:30
#56
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India MihirX27 
±1
2019-07-23 20:10
#100
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Netherlands PasscaLl 
+11111
2019-07-23 22:57
Every team has their cocky fans. You just don't like it because a European team isn't #1 at the moment.
2019-07-23 17:08
#36
shox | 
Romania KOMO_ 
yeah , EU also have cocky fans but you are all cocky tbh
2019-07-23 19:16
"You are all"... no. Hasty Generalization Fallacy.
2019-07-23 19:18
#91
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Italy Gio_bose 
I love how you just generalised the while of NA. Quite ignorant NGL.
2019-07-23 21:44
flag checks out. do you actually think Europe is a country? the US is full of nationalist trash and it shows
2019-07-23 20:54
#92
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Italy Gio_bose 
When did he say Europe was a country
2019-07-23 21:45
I am TL fan still, imo the fans are only second to the team
2019-07-23 19:37
If Liquid don't win this major their "era" will be forgotten in the future. Sad for them, but expected from NA.
2019-07-23 16:50
Even if they don't win the Major, they've done things that nobody has yet. Astralis held the record for consecutive LAN victories in a row (17) until Liquid, which is 22 and counting. It took 7 months for Astralis to win the Intel Grand Slam. It took 2 months for Liquid. If Liquid can win one of the next two Majors that would be awesome, but doesn't negate what they did the last few months. They are not likely to win the next major, but if the past is any indication, they're likely to get to yet another Final. Only Astralis last year was as consistent. They may not win the Major, but they've done well.
2019-07-23 17:18
#58
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India MihirX27 
If Astralis won Major, but couldn't capitalise on it, it'd be like ELEAGUE Atlanta. Aside from the historic part of winning 3 majors a row, but yeah, Astralis couldn't convincingly hold #1 in 2017.
2019-07-23 20:12
I mean, they did hold #1 from december to 5th june so more time on the #1 spot than liquid now ^^ I know its crazy, considering that astralis only won 3 events at that time
2019-07-23 20:56
It wasn't until April of 2018 that Astralis became #1. Before then Faze was #1 and Cloud9 #2 for 2 months (just to show you how things have changed). Before Faze at #1 it was SK at #1.
2019-07-23 20:57
Wtf newfag fanboy, NiP had 87-0
2019-07-23 20:50
I'm completely aware of the 87-0. That was truly amazing, but... the vast majority of those were online and at small tournaments. There were no Majors when they were establishing that record. They won a Major, but only after they were already underdogs and long past their 87-0. What I'm speaking of are large LANs. Astralis held the record at 17. Liquid is at 22 and counting.
2019-07-23 21:00
Afaik the number is LAN map win streak
2019-07-23 21:10
Not the 87-0. That was maps won in a row, irrespective of whether LAN or Online. I do agree thought - Mind-blowingly amazing record.
2019-07-23 21:30
#101
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Denmark xlo6x 
dude nip didn't drop a single map back then, liquid legit against just lost a map against G2.
2019-07-24 00:41
Right, hence the 87 in 87-0. I acknowledge they were mad good.. in a time when the top tournaments offered $6k, the idea of team tactics was feel and enemy out and hope to get the first pick, then rush that side. This was at the beginning of CS:GO when set pieces are basic, communication was generally "Okay, you go roam around B and make noise to pull rotation and we'll hold short of A, flash then enter". NiP were great; no doubt. But, they were great amidst a field of what amounted to puggers. If this Liquid lineup could go back in time and play the NiP lineup of then, the advances in team tactics and synergistic communication would have meant they'd have beaten them soundly. You can say that of probably any of the top 5 or 6 teams, not just Liquid. The game has advanced. Comparing the greats of old with how the game has changed is not a fair comparison. Where the players of NiP have given up a bit of quickness they've gained in game knowledge and yet where is NiP now? Still a good team. Except for Fifflaren all of the same players still play. Their biggest competitors (VeryGames), all still play. They're all still quite good and have kept up with the modern game... members of both teams still on top-10 teams. The former VeryGames guys are closer to being competitive than NiP is now. NiP was great. Astralis of last year, , and Liquid of the last 9 months, and NaVi of last year are all better. Put them in a time machine and there wouldn't have been a 87-0. Different times. The game has improved. Team work has improved.
2019-07-24 01:09
#103
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Denmark xlo6x 
I'm not gonna read a paragraph about Liquid being the best upcoming team atm, I got you, I'm not even gonna try anymore, your mom dog.
2019-07-24 01:10
tldr? Any of the top 5/6 teams of today would have consistently beaten NiP of 2012. "your mom dog" ????? Okay.
2019-07-24 01:11
#105
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Denmark xlo6x 
Yes, obviously, back then people didn't have thousands of hours in the game. I don't even understand why that is an argument.
2019-07-24 01:12
You created the argument, dude, not me. Look at my comments above. I have full respect for 87-0... for the time. I was discussing how Astralis held the record of 18 LAN series in a row that Liquid beat and you dive bombed me.
2019-07-24 01:14
#107
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Denmark xlo6x 
Dude, I just said that NiP didn't drop a single map xD, where did I make an argument?
2019-07-24 01:16
#5
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Poland Czari10 
Pimpek wins
2019-07-23 16:51
#6
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Denmark EyesWallow 
honestly i would love to see astralis win and liquid lose, just to see liquids reaction
2019-07-23 16:51
+1 make all na fans cry
2019-07-23 16:54
#59
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India MihirX27 
I just want the match to be good, irrespective of the outcome. I want a Nail-biting Liquid and/or Astralis Match, STAT!
2019-07-23 20:14
Not sure we will get that. Major will be interesting though
2019-07-23 20:20
Astralis has slumped on and individual basis. The fact the they are dodging tournaments doesn't help. Practices/scrims are not the same as actually playing in tournaments on a stage
2019-07-23 16:51
If Astralis beat Liquid in the final it would be the funniest shit ever and hopefully Stewie will cry
2019-07-23 16:53
+111111
2019-07-23 21:36
#12
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Denmark McMuffin 
NAF's face in final... please no
2019-07-23 16:54
nip win ye.
2019-07-23 16:54
#22
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United States jlocash 
Love that there is an NA team on the top but I've always been a FaZe fan and hope they can go deep into this major. If its Astralis vs Liquid final I hope we get all maps. This will be one for the books mens)))
2019-07-23 17:03
I would be hyped for a 5 map liquid vs Astralis Just like old times
2019-07-23 17:59
#31
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
But liquid never got to a map 5 against astralis, lol.
2019-07-23 18:19
I meant the Astralis-Liquid grand final would be like old times
2019-07-23 18:23
#35
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
But the old times were always stomps for astralis lol
2019-07-23 18:37
#24
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Russia Schwa 
I enjoyed a danish cs scene since copenhagen wolves were around. But honestly, even if I wasnt an astralis fan, them winning next major would make a pretty f*cking cool story. When a team after many years of playing achieves #1 spot, then throws away their era for no reason and after that gets their sh*t back together and becomes #1 again. Now that would really be pretty amazing
2019-07-23 17:10
#39
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Canada flame7 
I don't care if Astralis wins I just want a competitive final. I love watching the team I've cheered for like 4 years finally winning, but what I want the most is to finally watch a good finals at the major.
2019-07-23 19:25
+1
2019-07-23 19:38
#60
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India MihirX27 
Exactly. +3000
2019-07-23 20:14
#75
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Yea last good major final was in Boston. I hate these 2 map stomps with the only interesting part being a slight comeback like Train for ENCE at Katowice.
2019-07-23 20:55
If Liquid wins the next major, Props to them. If they don't then well i wonder who beats them...i don't really see alot of teams having the potential to beat them at the moment. Also if Liquid wins we finally have an NA team that won the major without it being a fluke.
2019-07-23 19:28
Liquid will win major
2019-07-23 19:31
would be history first org to win 4 majors in total first org to win 3 majors in a row dupreeh, gla1ve, device and xyp9x first players to win 4 majors if it goes the normal way then liquid should win it obv. they're too good right now but u never know cause it's liquid and it's a major.
2019-07-23 19:35
I would really like to see naf nitro and Elige to win a major cause they deserve it a lot but bruhh these cocky americans and Snake2k with his BM aka i'm really entertaining and i add some values to the pro scene... That's why this gonna be first time when i will cheer for danes
2019-07-23 19:34
No major = no era
2019-07-23 19:35
astralis won't make it to the playoff, mark my words
2019-07-23 19:36
#84
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Will be back here When They're 4 times major Winners lol
2019-07-23 21:27
nt
2019-07-23 21:32
#86
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Wait and see
2019-07-23 21:34
liquid will probably face vitality in the finals setting up vitality to have the next and greatest era, astralis have dropped off way to much to even get to the final maybe they wont even get to the semi's
2019-07-23 19:45
Please tell me you're kidding Please !
2019-07-23 20:11
#62
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India MihirX27 
As much as I'd love to see this, we need a French shuffle for that, just, with the newer Ex-LDLC players, Ex-3DMAX players, Heretics team, G2 and Vitality.
2019-07-23 20:16
#67
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Brazil Karl_Tanner 
Hahaha. Ur Not delusional at all.
2019-07-23 20:42
flair checks out
2019-07-23 20:59
#80
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Portugal dascouves 
delusional
2019-07-23 21:01
the last hope of Eu is Astralis
2019-07-23 19:47
#64
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India MihirX27 
G2 has taken maps off of Liquid. I hope to see more that that ofcourse. And, well, ma boi gla1ve has been disappointing, so far. Like, tactics are on-point, but, get those shots guys! Practice! C'mon! Poach Liquid's Psychologist if you want lol.
2019-07-23 20:18
Just because you mentioned G2, Thorin posted a video on YouTube and he said that G2 is the only team close to beating liquid.
2019-07-23 21:16
#54
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Peru Grimethk 
Major for S1mple.
2019-07-23 20:04
#65
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India MihirX27 
Major for ZywOo is more probable right now, ngl.
2019-07-23 20:18
#70
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United States Freakmode 
I think astralis will win
2019-07-23 20:52
As of now liquid is gonna win the major 90% probably.
2019-07-23 20:54
#88
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Austria Aimy 
Liquid is getting stronger and stronger they should be able to Play head to Head against well practised astralis. (I hope so)
2019-07-23 21:37
#89
NAF | 
Europe aches 
honestly any team could win the next major since look at a team like g2 for some reason they seem to be able to kinda beat liquid sometimes but g2 lose to a team like navi and navi always lose to TL so any team can win the berlin major it depends who will show up or not choke
2019-07-23 21:37
#95
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Italy Gio_bose 
G2 can have close games with liquid but that doesn't mean they can beat them........
2019-07-23 21:51
#96
NAF | 
Europe aches 
its nearly always close kinda thats the thing it was like fnatic nearly lost to titan in 2015 and they sometimes did quite a few times some teams are better fighting at other teams like nrg is worse at fighting tl than g2 or idk faze? its weird btw thoorin is my gamer gaming gameologist
2019-07-23 22:06
Astralis is strat king, Liquid is aim king. If Astralis is on their day, they are unstoppable. Hopefully , mouz or Astralis wins the major
2019-07-23 21:39
Astralis have a good chance to win imo, but mouz lost against Na'Vi. Na'Vi are really good and they are underrated af rn, but if mouz can't beat them then it's almost unreal for them to beat Liquid, Astralis, Vitality. At least one of those teams they will definitely need to beat to win Major. I don't hate mouz btw
2019-07-23 21:54
Dude, you're right. I just want to see woxic wins the fucking major He said it like 1-2 years ago, "I will win the major one day" It seems normal to you but in Turkish he was so eager to do it. Also he missed a 1v4 clutch against Liquid when he was HR in major quarter finals of major Again when he streamed, he told about it and i witnessed how he is passionate about it. He is the only hope of all Turks that want to see a Turk player wins a major
2019-07-23 22:53
#99
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United States jay_320 
Tarik won a major and you guys try and claim him all the time. It's Liquid's turn. Mouz could be a really good team by the time the next major comes around though. I mean if Frozen develops and Ropz becomes consistent then those three could be Elige/Twistzz/NAF level of dangerous.
2019-07-23 22:57
Dude, i am big tarik fan but tarik is not like woxic. We cannot call tarik %100 Turk but we can call woxic %100 Turk
2019-07-24 03:52
I hope Astralis will hard work and Liquid will underestimate them. So Astralis will win Major and they will deny Liquid era
2019-07-23 21:46
Mibr win major zews mvp 40bomb every map
2019-07-24 01:20
#112
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Wishful thinking
2019-07-24 12:58
I'm sure Astralis is gonna prepair really, really hard for the major, and will most likely come up with new things, but will it be enough?! I just hope they find their "prime" again. Prime Astralis vs prime Liquid would be amazing!
2019-07-24 04:02
#113
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Czech Republic Carlosss 
Im pretty sure Astralis are going to the finals.
2019-07-24 13:00
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