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Sweden NicuPalero 
So from my own experience the intel products last longer and they barely get worse with the years. I now have i7 3770 and it's 9 or 10 years old this year, my PC still runs like a clock with 300fps on csgo, 60+ on pubg etc. During this whole time I have several close friends who built their own PC's and 2 of them who bought AMD motherboards and CPU's have bought new PC's 2 or 3 times during all this. Also during this time my mother have had a intel i7 laptop that she bought 2011 and still on this day you can play csgo with 80fps on it, sure it has no SSD so it's slow af but when you're ingame it runs well. My GF have had 3 diffrent laptops since 2012, the first 2 both were AMD and she had to upgrade after 1 or 2 years with both. But now she has an intel i5 since 3 years back and it runs fine. Basically I want to know if any1else have the same experience of AMD just being pure trash when it comes to cost-efficency? Because I have one friend who always bragged about how fast his AMD is and how little it cost him. But Im laughing every time he gets wow.error, PUBG crash/bad FPS or he buys the new Ryzen and his power supply gets totally fucked. I've never heard about intel pc's crashing or not working properly
2019-07-24 19:05
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didnt read, but intel >>> AMD
2019-07-24 19:06
#14
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
Delusional
2019-07-24 19:20
glad to meet you, I'm Jeff :)
2019-07-24 19:21
#17
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
Yes
2019-07-24 19:22
#80
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Brazil EMAIBIAR 
always
2019-07-24 21:57
It's a 7-year-old CPU, not 9 or 10-year-old
2019-07-24 19:07
#3
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Poland zmija9 
tldr, r9 3900x is the best cpu atm
2019-07-24 19:07
They said the same when the first ryzen came out, but as i said, my friend had to return 2 of them before finally going back to intel since he couldnt break over 60fps on pubg and rust
2019-07-24 19:20
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CeRq | 
Portugal portugaI 
rofl whats his video card?
2019-07-24 19:25
#25
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France kNRD^ 
The problem came from his GPU. The Ryzen new gen are in game equal to the Intel CPU's and they are better un multi-tasking.
2019-07-24 19:32
The first and second generations of ryzen were good. But the 3rd gen dismantled intels entire product line at any price point. The ONLY reason to buy intel is for tos who want a pc that can deliver slightly higher fps and where cash isn't an issue. If you do literally anything else on your pc then amd is the way to go. Yes intel cpus have historically been better amd cpus from the same time as the 3rd and 4th gen of intel cpus are nowhere near as good today. But times change amd has the upper hand for now hopefully intel can compete in their next gen lineup. Competition drives down prices like we saw with the launch of the rx 5700 and 5700 xt.
2019-07-24 19:32
I get what you're saying, but do you have any experience with the life span of an high end AMD cpu?
2019-07-24 19:37
Also what Im really wondering about is if ppl still run old AMD cpus who still can push 200+ fps on csgo and smooth fps on all other games. Because if Im buying a new PC today I would still go for intel because I know that the life span of an i7 is very long and it's performence doesnt decrease over the years. Can't say the same about amd tho. Sure they are better and cheaper than AMD right now, but that just makes me even more suspicious about their product. Since they failed hard with their 1st gen ryzen which was supposed to kill intel
2019-07-24 19:50
I run a 1200 and get ez 200 fps on low details 4:3
2019-07-24 20:15
+1
2019-07-24 22:13
Intel and amd are almost like Apple and Android. Android is cheaper and gives better performance but if you're going to keep your phone for a long time then you can be sure that the iPhone will be supported but the Android might not be. It's a risk I'm willing to take because I'm not going to keep a cpu for more than 3 years anyway. But if you aren't going to upgrade again till 2025 or something then intel might be the answer. But we'll have to see how well the 3000 stands the test of time.
2019-07-24 20:32
Lmao wtf u talking abt??? Intel makes a new motherboard every generation xD. Amd has used am4 for 3 years now and plans on using it til 2021. You wanna talk about longevity?
2019-07-24 23:17
Do you are has stupid? I said that if you weren't going to change anything in your system then intel might be a good idea. If you buy a ryzen today and new cpus still support the chipset 5-7 years later are you not going to buy another motherboard anyway?
2019-07-24 23:46
"you can be sure apple will be supported" Intel will almost 100% not be supported. AMD will.
2019-07-25 00:31
"Also what Im really wondering about is if ppl still run old AMD cpus who still can push 200+ fps on csgo and smooth fps on all other games." Old amd cpus were fucking trash. Before ryzen AMD was so far behind that no one bought them and there was no reason to buy them for gaming. That's what you are forgetting. In the early years (~'05-'10 can't remember) intel also sabotaged amd heavily. They actually got sued and had to pay fines. AMD was pretty much useless since 2012 (if not 2008 already) CPU's per se don't become slower. They run the same speed. It's just that the applications become more complex and power hungry. Example: When cs:go came out i was running an E6600 core2duo. Was getting about 35-60 fps. Upgraded to I5 3570K and everything was good at around 170-200fps. In 2016 my fps were around 90-120. I oc'd to 4,2 ghz, upgraded my GPU /screen (freesync) and now in 2019 I am at 90-150 fps (fullHD) and I am going to upgrade to a ryzen3700x. 7 years of I5 3570K. It still works fine, especially after adding an ssd, but overall my pc is slower and my fps become less and less. My cpu didn't slow down tho. It's just all the windows and cs:go updates with new/prettier maps and stuff. What I want to say is that there is no sense in comparing old AMD's with current amds, since AMD was trash for such a long time. Only now they managed to catch up and (partially) pass Intel. I don't have any worries about the quality of AMD, although I am using Intel CPU's since 2008 I always used AMD GPU's since 2006. (Geforce4 until '06 -> HD4500 '12 -> HD7870 '17 -> RX580 nitro+) I never had issues with any of them and I sold all of them after all those years again. I know that the HD7870 is still running. That's 7 years now.
2019-07-24 20:32
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Czech Republic seal2145 
Mate what, cpus are literally the most reliable component in the entire system there are still fx 9590s hungry bulldozers with tdp in high usage of up to 250watts and they run normally, cpus dont die easily not at all regardless if its intel or amd average lifespan should be about 20years. EDIT: like i have never heard of anyone from personal experience that had a failing cpu either intel or amd not even when they overclocked it and were pushing some really high temperatures of like 70-90degrees cpus just run a loooooong time and most likely will outlive all of the components in the pc.
2019-07-24 22:00
I am pretty cretain if intel goes for 7nm that they will be better. Atm amd's 7 nm>intel's 14nm
2019-07-24 20:02
7nm could probably push intel ahead of amd but as it stands now they're struggling with 10nm. It will probably be a couple of years before intel ships high end 7nm processors.
2019-07-24 20:28
#116
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France Evocat 
They planned the first gen for 2021. Sounds very late when AMD already has its 7nm on the market
2019-07-25 13:11
Intel user here and I can say proudly that INTEL is utter trash.....
2019-07-24 19:08
#15
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Estonia ropz_bestest 
+1
2019-07-24 19:21
#109
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World ZMDR 
+1
2019-07-25 10:10
ryzen ftw
2019-07-24 19:08
My laptop since 2013 has an amd card and I still didnt got a single problem. Well the intel cpu was overheating but I think that was more a problem with the laptop design. For my pc im using an amd cpu with stock cooler for 1.5 years now, no problems as well))
2019-07-24 19:18
My 8700k makes cs stutter sometimes at the end of the round or when practicing with bots. Even after some random kills stutters. Always had intel, maybe in 5-7 years time will swap with amd
2019-07-24 19:11
I had an Intel i5 7200U laptop, at first time i bought it 2.5 years ago, i could get 150 fps on 1080p now i cant even get 150 fps on 1024. Intel is so bad. MAD > Intel
2019-07-24 19:17
7200U is not half as good as my old 3770. And did you even have a GPU in the laptop? just any gpu with 1gb vram makes a world of diffrence instead of the intel HD graphics
2019-07-24 19:26
Nah my friend, ofc it is not a powerful cpu, that wasnt my point, the point was eventho it is a decent cpu for cs go, it struggles to keep cs go working fine after 2.5 years. The gpu was GeForce 940MX btw. (Nvidia killed this gpu with stupid driver updates, Nvidia also sucks compared to MAD)
2019-07-24 19:33
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India vik1ng_w0w 
AMD haven't had a half decent CPU (since Athlon times) until Ryzen. All this while, Intel was really good enough with great CPUs in both desktops and laptops. Not to say Intel is bad, but AMD is catching up now (still to make a good laptop CPU)
2019-07-24 19:19
Yeah I know the new AMD CPU's and some of them in the past are just as fast or faster than intel. But Im just talking durability which from my own experience intel things dont age very fast
2019-07-24 19:28
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Ukraine vIadik96 
never broke AMD or Intel processor so I can't really tell wich one lasts longer. I think it's really rare to break your CPU and I have OC'd the shit out of every CPU I had. E7200 was very impressive tho when i got it running almost 4ghz with the stock cooler Wich was bad. FX-8350 was fun too and it did not die even when I gave it a good beating. Now running 2600x and I'm really happy with it. Just go what you like and can get your hands on, that's my 2 cents
2019-07-24 19:20
#20
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Ukraine vIadik96 
and CPU performance does not decrease over time so you got that wrong m8
2019-07-24 19:25
he is not wrong about 3-8 generation of intel that use buble gum inside cpu, when you run in high ghz it's very hot, and buble gum inside cpu die and cpu have way higher temperatures and become worse
2019-07-24 19:47
#33
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World Beard43 
+1 I always research price/performance in my price range. I haven't built an AMD PC since 2004 but my next build is looking highly likely to be AMD unless Intel does something surprising soon.
2019-07-24 19:39
i have an i7 4790 and it runs +200 FPS on all HIGH 1080 with my RX 590. got the best of both worlds .
2019-07-24 19:25
Ryzen 1600+R9 380x xd
2019-07-24 19:26
bump
2019-07-24 19:34
#24
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Czech Republic @me 
my first amd was sempron i think, didn't break or anything, it was just way too weak that even the first smartphones that came out were better than using that PC lol i have built a pc with ryzen last year and it was running fine, haven't used it for half a year tho all my laptops so far ran on intel, i think they are superior with their mobile processors, at least that's what it used to be like, idk maybe amd already caught up i also think intel used to make better cpus few years ago, then they started to cheap out on stuff, like soldering etc.
2019-07-24 19:30
They've been cheaping out on consumer products for ages, because there has been no competition for them. I'd figure they'll start there when they try to fight back AMD. There's a lot of performance yet untapped in Intel consumer processors that haven't been delidded (comparing to the non-delidded product obviously). Still, server-side hardware like the Xeons on the other hand have been soldered the whole while.
2019-07-24 19:38
#35
dont | 
Czech Republic @me 
yeah, i haven't been folowing the tech news that much, but i think they solder some of their new cpus too now and with amd you also get a nice useable cooler xD
2019-07-24 19:40
True with the cooler, albeit Intel has left the stock cooler out from all the K-models as you'd be better off anyhow getting anything else except the stock cooler especially if you're overclocking it (at least with Intel).
2019-07-24 19:42
Intel coolers suck, ryzen has 3 coolers, 2 suck but the Prism cooler you get with 3000X series are great.
2019-07-24 19:50
Haven't tested out any of the Ryzen stock coolers but I've heard they're good and checked some reviews, weren't completely aware that there were so many different stock cooler models. But yeah, I also tried to imply that Intel stock coolers are so worthless that they don't even ship it with a K-model processor.. That should tell you something.
2019-07-24 19:52
#29
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World Beard43 
Your CPU was released 7 years ago, not 9 or 10. Comparing with anything pre Ryzen (Specifically Zen+) AMD will lose virtually every time unless you go all the way back to 2004/5 with AMD socket 939 which blitzed Intel. Both manufacturers produce very reliable products. AMD currently has a better product with Ryzen.
2019-07-24 19:35
Any experience with the 2004/5 AMD's? would love to know if they still were decent 2010 or later
2019-07-24 19:41
They beat the competition at the time but fell off quite quickly. People still used them obviously but they lacked severely in performance pretty soon after release. After Intel came out with the C2D -series, there was no question about the better chips. This is at least to my experience.
2019-07-24 19:46
#54
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World Beard43 
Yeah I made a build in 2004 with one of the early Athlon 64 CPU's and it was actually really good, but I ended up having overheating issues with it (the stock heatsink was absolute garbage). That prompted me to look into aftermarket heatsinks (bought a freaking massive Zalman heatsink, so much copper) but at the same time I saw that they had produced the first native dual core processors so I upgraded that (and my ram) at the same time. I can't remember whether it was a 4400+ or a 4600+ but it was beastly in 2005. Like, freaking amazing! I replaced mine in 2009 with an Intel q9550, that was a huge boom time for CPU's. Adding the extra cores was crazy enough, but Intel also made some massive IPC advancements and AMD fell behind. It was still "okay" when I replaced it in 09 and I didn't replace it out of necessity, but, well I did replace it. AMD just went to shit after that until the last couple of years with Ryzen. They also ruined ATI, but that's a different story I guess ;-p
2019-07-24 20:04
#74
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Estonia ckN 
I had experience with all that old shit. The last good ATI vga was Radeon 9600pro and 9800pro:D after that they had overheating shit. Back in 2002-2006 Pentium 4>AMD athlon XP ; Pentium D > Athlon 64. (Athlon 64 2X was so shit cpu, it was even worse than single core athlon cpu's in games). Also you could overclock Pentium 4/D
2019-07-24 20:52
lovely story man, ty for reply :)
2019-07-25 02:13
They were good. Had an Athlon64 back then. AMD started to become useless with intel's core 2 duos. Upgraded to an E6600 in '06/'07 and never heard from AMD cpu's again until ryzen 3xxx. AMD tried with their phenom and fx series, but were always too far behind. They didn't stand a chance until recently.
2019-07-24 20:39
ty for reply (Y)
2019-07-25 02:13
#30
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Norway AndersBreivik 
intel if u are hetero
2019-07-24 19:36
#34
frozen | 
Russia evennnn 
intel> amd, in spite of the fact that I have ryzen 5 2600. If I could return in time, I would undoubtedly pay up to i5 8600k / 9600k
2019-07-24 19:39
yep cuz extra 20-40% of the price worth to get 10-20% of fps in a games that you will never see any differnce and you have better productive cpu overall, that mean when games will be made as good as professional soft 2600 will have better fps then 8600-9600k
2019-07-24 19:45
#45
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Russia evennnn 
I agree, maybe after some time, when all new games and programs will be optimized for multi-threaded processors, AMD will be in the first place. Perhaps my opinion about the AMD processors is also affected by the fact that my RAM is not completely overclocked to am4 and works at 2400 MHz runoff, while it works at 3000 on intel platform
2019-07-24 19:51
yep there is some problems with some ram on am4 motherboards, i guess cheap crucial vengence lpx 3200 works fine in any motherboard on 3200 + can be overclocked to 3666-3800 at least, just need to do a bit of research before you take ram, overall 2600 way better then 8600-9600 cuz of lower price and better perfomance overall, it gonna be like back in 2009-2011, when fx 8300 8 "cores" cpu perform worse then i3 2100, that have 2 cores 4 threads, right now fx 8300 on the same page as i5 2500 in a games, you doesnt have any difference if you just regular games, you have amazing fps this +10% of perfomance in a games is nothing
2019-07-25 11:00
AMD used to suck, but the Ryzen 2000 series are good for their price, and the 3000 series are insane compared to intel's lack of improvement.
2019-07-24 19:49
AMD ryzen 3000 CPUs are faster in csgo than Intel cpus
2019-07-24 19:50
#72
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Brazil deivid50 
not is a fact, 9900k is the best cpu for run csgo and 9600k is better than 3600x in csgo.
2019-07-24 20:42
#90
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Finland Lmao157 
Wrong, the 3900x with SMT on even beats the 9900k and SMT off obliterates it.
2019-07-24 23:06
youtube.com/watch?v=z3aEv3EzMyQ Look at the 28 second mark
2019-07-25 01:22
#100
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Brazil deivid50 
csgo very high AHAHAHHAHAHA
2019-07-25 01:39
amd now.. the 3000 series are better than intel. I dont get why people tend to be a fanboy of either amd or intel.
2019-07-24 19:52
#59
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World Beard43 
The fanboy thing is so weird to me. I guess I might have a preference if they offered the exact same thing, but they never have.
2019-07-24 20:12
agreed. The more competition the lower prices
2019-07-24 21:52
#47
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United States Acehavok 
Okay well you know nothing besides what Intel ads and your friends tell you. They “barely got worse” because they barely got better, from Sandy Bridge (2000 series) to Kaby Lake (7000 series) they barely changed. A little more clocks speed and a little more IPC gains. They didn’t need to improve mainstream CPUs because AMD was so far behind. Ryzen came out in 2017, intel finally started making higher core count CPUs to match AMD. Zen+ came out in 2018 starting to close the gap in IPC and clock speed. Now Zen 2 is out and is beating Intel in basically anything that’s production oriented and keeps up or does better in most games. Intel has basically no roadmap atm to improve. They’re still struggling to get 10nm into production meanwhile Zen 2 is 7nm.
2019-07-24 19:54
Most of the time something breaks it is not the cpu, so amd vs intel reliability is probably irrelevant but if you want to get the most fps intel is still be better than amd Bang for the buck today is amd
2019-07-24 19:53
Zen 2 (3000 series) does better in CS:GO now than Intel Go to 0:33 youtu.be/z3aEv3EzMyQ
2019-07-24 19:57
Depends on game
2019-07-24 23:28
I dont have any bad memories with any of them to be honest. It goes back to my first processor which was Intel - Pentium 166, then it was AMD Athlon 2000+, then Athlon 4800+, both were decent. Then Ive switched to Intel, first e5200 and now Im still running 4670k (5 years already). It looks like I will be going back to AMD in 2020 because Intel processors are overpriced at the moment.
2019-07-24 20:00
Same. Just ordered an AMD again for the first time after 14+ years. Switched in '06 to an E6600 and amd was trash until now. Wanted to upgrade 1-2 years ago already to an intel, but they were/are overpriced af.
2019-07-24 21:07
There's no such thing as durability when it comes to CPUs, unless you use really high voltages while overclocking. A CPU doesn't get slower (Unless it gets thermal throttled.), games/programs get more advanced thus requiring more CPU power. The CPU is gonna perform the same 10 years from now as it does today, assuming you have an adequate cooling solution. AMD or Intel doesn't matter when it comes to durability, what does matter is who produces the other parts like the motherboard, PSU etc. When a PC dies for some reason, it's almost never the CPU. I would personally recommend the Ryzen 3700x to almost everyone that plays games due to the price. But if you want the most FPS you can possibly get with money (I think the average difference in FPS is like 6%.), you buy the i7 9900k. The 3700x actually beats out the 9900k in CSGO, which is quite impressive.
2019-07-24 20:03
The CPU can get a little slower. When you´re running something like for example 1.45V there will be degradation. Meaning that after a certain time you won´t be able to get as high frequencies as you had before.
2019-07-24 22:07
#108
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Other wtf_men 
Think he can't clutch through a smoke while recording in full resolution and streaming the play to the world? Watch this. Think you can't get famous in a flash like become your own meme famous? Watch this. Think he's been there, done that? With Intel Core i7, he's just getting started.
2019-07-25 10:10
Lets put a few things straight here: 1. CPU's do not get slower with age, this goes regardless who made them. 2. CPU's doesn't influence on a PSU failing, that can happen regardless of the CPU brand. 3. If you buy a fast CPU it be decent compared to new CPU's for longer than if you bought a slow CPU. 4. Chances are that if you buy a quality PSU, a quality motherboard and fans that PC will work for a longer time than if you buy the cheapest you can find, this again has nothing to do the CPU. Some people buy new PC's when in reality they would have gotten more FPS spending the same money on upgrading their GPU. If it is worth or not to buy quality and pay the extra money depends, if you will replace a PC every two years then likely it is better to buy cheap and save the money for the next PC. But instead you can buy quality stuff, pay more from the start and maybe just upgrade with parts along the way.
2019-07-24 20:04
I built my amd computer 2012 and I'm replacing it next month
2019-07-24 20:05
#57
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Portugal Benjff 
ryzen 5 3600 is the most valuable cpu rn it's cheap and has the same bench as i5 9600k and i7 7700k
2019-07-24 20:09
#61
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World Beard43 
+1 Although I'd probably be silly and grab a 3700X
2019-07-24 20:13
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Finland Lmao157 
I grabbed a 3900x and turned SMT off to get the best CPU for gaming.
2019-07-24 23:09
#106
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Portugal Benjff 
If you're streaming or recording or somehow making renders turn it on immediatly , but if you don't turn off SMT in the BIOS. but if you look for streaming or anything like that turn the SMT on in the BIOS and disable it in your game's option ^^
2019-07-25 10:01
#105
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Portugal Benjff 
3700x is good for its 2 extra core but it is defenetly more expensive , around 100€ more expensive than a 3600 that is really good : there is defenetly a bit of an upgrade between these 2 cpu though i meant that 3600 was the best in the market for gaming and streaming for its price , the 3600 is unbeatable atm his bench are really good and can hold streaming and recording at the same time while gaming at 144fps for a really low price.
2019-07-25 09:59
I haven't lost any performance on my fx 4100 , it was bad earlier and still is but it runs the game at same fps as in 2012.
2019-07-24 20:10
You cant really compare the best cpu 10 years ago with a cheap ryzen model today. You have to compare it with threadripper or another highend cpu . A new threadripper today should last 10 years and win easily against your old I7. Its like my old GTX770.. when I bought it like 6 years ago it cost the same as a 1080ti today.. So that is what I should compare it with. Not a cheap 1050 or something (which the 770 actually beats)
2019-07-24 20:12
#66
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Czech Republic seal2145 
forgot the scandal about intel i9s blowing up motherboards? Because the vrm of the motherboards couldnt not deliver enough of power, so they overheated and blew up. Or that Intel said not to overclock the i7 7700k bcs of overheating?(due to shit stock TIM under the IHS).
2019-07-24 20:36
intel > amd any day nvidia > amd any day only those who cant afford say otherwise
2019-07-24 20:36
#70
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Europe Vallon3 
+1
2019-07-24 20:40
imagine you buy a 500+ € 3900x to get 0-4 fps more than a 250 € i5 9600k xDDDD youtube.com/watch?v=GsbgeOq-soY
2019-07-24 20:56
OMFG. It also has 6 more cores and a lot more cache, better IPC. Imagine releasing a CPU that has 8 cores and costs the same as a 12 core.
2019-07-24 22:09
#69
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Europe Vallon3 
Of course they're better, dude. Everyone has to hate on Intel because they think it makes them look cool while riding AMD. It's mostly poor people or people on a budget hating - they can't afford the best, so they gotta trounce it.
2019-07-24 20:40
#85
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United States FarCentrist 
+1 its pathetic. They talk as if AMD is some kind of robin hood company while intel is a big mean cooperate bully. Both are multi billion dollar companies.
2019-07-24 22:17
#92
NiKo | 
Finland Lmao157 
AMD is Robin in the hood
2019-07-24 23:10
imagine thinking that pubg crashing is amds or intels fault
2019-07-24 20:41
I have intel core i5 4460 and the only reason why i need to swap to smth else is that its motherboard generation doesnt run ddr4, in fact it runs like a clock
2019-07-24 20:45
Incel
2019-07-24 22:13
#88
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Estonia teremartin 
dead pick for future. gg intel user :dogehaha:
2019-07-24 22:30
#86
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Austria iVolcan 
When I wanted to built my first ever pc AMD had just released Ryzen first gen and I like did researched on the internet for several days and decided to pick Ryzen over Intel cuz I felt that Ryzen is more user friendly and better for the budget since the chipset doesn't change and every CPU is unlocked for overloacking. I chose Ryzen despite nearly everyone on HLTV saying i should get Intel. Upgraded from 3 1300x to 5 2600 and my PC runs still smooth as butter, only field where Ryzen lacks a bit is gaming cuz Windows is basically not fully compromised for Ryzen so it kinda bottlenecks it. but when it comes to multitasking Ryzen is far far far ahead of Intel RYZEN <33
2019-07-24 22:28
#87
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Austria iVolcan 
BTW I overcloaked my ryzen 3 1300x it with the STOCK cooler from 3.5Ghz to stable 3.95Ghz
2019-07-24 22:28
Rn you get a better price with amd for its power. Intel remains better, for games but amd ir right behind them. And if games would optimize for amd, than it would be huge for them
2019-07-24 23:30
"So from my own experience the intel products last longer and they barely get worse with the years." well thats because they never changed anything... always the same 4c/8t cpus with small "improvements". they are now forced to release cpus with more cores thanks to amd. without amd we would still sit on these stupid 4c/8t cpus from shintel. LISA SU <333
2019-07-25 01:26
Yeah that makes sense. I know that competition within the business it very good for every1, which is perfect for me because I dont need a new pc rn, maybe i'll buy one in 2 years and by then intel probably fixed some insane CPU for me :)
2019-07-25 02:17
Only had AMD GPU, didn’t last long. Always bought Intel CPU, but I keep buying new ones every 3-4 years anyway, so maybe AMD next time.
2019-07-25 02:22
NT Bob Swan Stopped at intel last longer and barely get worse. they've lost performance to security patches left right and center
2019-07-25 10:06
#110
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World ZMDR 
I had a 4790 and it was dogshit. Then went to a Ryzen 2600 and now on 3600. Intel is a ripoff.
2019-07-25 10:11
"I now have i7 3770 and it's 9 or 10 years old this year, my PC still runs like a clock with 300fps on csgo, 60+ on pubg etc." you cant benchmark a 10 years old game...
2019-07-25 10:15
There are so many variables here. Quality of motherboard, PSU, etc. AMD used to run really hot, so there could be a heat problem. Zen2 crushges Intel when it comes to thermals and they have higher IPC.
2019-07-25 10:17
No biased here, Intel have enjoyed their monopoly that they can charge whatever they want which is shit for the consumer, it's good that AMD has challenged them but reality is Intel has more resources and I'll bet very shortly they will simply bring out something that trumps AMD at a better price point because they have the power to do so. If you're buying anything i5/ryzen3600 And above you're doing fine.
2019-07-25 10:27
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Kyrgyzstan Peksi 
CPUs dont break down. Users slow CPUs down. For budget AMD. For gaming Intel. AMD always had higher temperatures, but with proper case and cooler you are all set. Intel is better in singlecore performance, but AMD is better in multicore performance. Ryzen 3900x is pretty much the same price as I9-9900k, but intel wins on pretty much every game. New CPUs have problem with specific games, softwares at the beginning simply because there are so many factors that couldn't be dealt with before release. After short period of time everything gets updated and problems get fixed.
2019-07-25 11:24
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