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TOP 1 zywoo/elige/s1mple
ZywOo | 
El Salvador jackobsingh 
AS GOOD AS S1MPLE IS, HE WILL NOT GET HLTV #1. He really only has starseries this yr bumping up his rating and the only good team at the time that attended was ence. Dont forget that he got 6 mvp medals last year on the #2 team in the world at the time to beat dev1ce. THAT BEING SAID zywoo and elige are both have 3 mvps with zywoo having a significantly higher rating. unless liquid win major and elige gets mvp, i see the order being: 1.zywoo 2.elige 3.s1mple *not a s1mple hater just being real
2019-08-13 01:46
s1mple>>>>zywho /Closed /thread
2019-08-13 01:50
rapex>> s1
2019-08-13 01:53
#55
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Netherlands xAlpaka 
2019-08-13 03:17
#78
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Other nt_newfag 
cath top1 comfirmed
2019-08-13 09:53
#101
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Russia my_id_777777 
+1000
2019-08-13 21:53
Might be right, but he hasn't achieved enough NaVi will need to lift some t1 trophies if he wants first place
2019-08-13 11:48
Rating 2.0 Aleksandr 's1mple' Kostyliev Natus Vincere 1.32 ZywOo (Vitality) 1.28 device (Astralis) 1.24 EliGE (Liquid) 1.22
2019-08-14 14:16
#122
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North America ItsBl4z3 
blastralis and dev1ce has 1.24 wtf??
2019-08-14 16:02
+1
2019-08-14 21:30
#2
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Belgium Chuckyyy 
+1
2019-08-13 01:51
gud 2 see u active again
2019-08-13 01:53
Best player is karrigan, dont @ me Just Look at His Name Carrygen, best player
2019-08-13 01:51
@ME_DUMB_BUT_LEFTISTM_DUMBER
2019-08-13 01:54
That's a bruh moment.
2019-08-13 01:55
+1
2019-08-15 11:34
#5
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
s1mple top 1 cry is free
2019-08-13 01:53
cry not free for u -1 pride
2019-08-13 01:54
Pidar
2019-08-13 01:54
#13
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
reported cya
2019-08-13 01:55
ok pidoras
2019-08-15 11:22
#31
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United States Raptorial 
+1
2019-08-13 02:04
s1mple will be top 1 or 2 sorry
2019-08-13 01:54
dont be sorry for being wrong. its alll good bro
2019-08-13 01:54
You wanna bet?
2019-08-13 01:57
#24
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
I'll bet on s1mple 100$ just like prev time 😎
2019-08-13 02:00
only way i see it is if s1 gets major mvp. i dont see navi winning tbh so yeah ill bet w you lmfao
2019-08-13 03:07
#15
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
navi will win major and s1mple'll claim mvp, ez top 1 for him
2019-08-13 01:55
nA
2019-08-13 01:58
#22
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
nt zywho
2019-08-13 01:58
bet on navi in berlin so you can be poorUkrainian
2019-08-13 02:04
#32
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
I'll do, they have such juicy odds (7)
2019-08-13 02:05
I'm pretty sure NaVi will go further than Shitality at major
2019-08-13 02:20
ya they might or they might not, but i def dont see them winning
2019-08-13 03:04
Yeah, They grand finals chokes are known so good, But imo they're bigger favors than Vitality, But i clearly see only 4 teams which can win that, Liquid, Astralis, NaVi and Vitality if Zywoo enters turbo god mode and at least apex will play at his decent level, Teams like mouz, NRG, G2 could surprise but this is unlikely to see them in grand finals
2019-08-13 03:14
ill be happy if either vita or navi win. liquids too expected and astralis winning would be too op
2019-08-13 05:34
#14
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Russia Slavaa 
1. zywoo 2. elige 3. s1mple
2019-08-13 01:55
#27
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
2019-08-13 02:02
#35
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Russia Slavaa 
i dont care about these stats
2019-08-13 02:06
+1 lmfaoo
2019-08-13 03:02
ARE YOU FUCKING OUT OF YOUR MIND?
2019-08-13 11:35
#89
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Russia Slavaa 
Why? Just because stats is not the most important thing imo?
2019-08-13 16:50
??? stats is the most important thing when were talking about top 20
2019-08-13 17:35
#99
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Russia Slavaa 
important, but not the most important
2019-08-13 21:28
device fans 2018?
2019-08-13 21:50
#102
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Russia Slavaa 
no, s1mple deserved to be top 1 in 2018
2019-08-13 22:21
#16
kennyS | 
Poland TO5HIM 
My opinion 1.zywoo 2.s1mple 3.elige
2019-08-13 01:57
1 . zywoo 2. elige 3. s1mple
2019-08-13 01:57
#19
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Elige OMEGALUL
2019-08-13 01:57
great yr, one of the biggest reasons theyre top1 plus god bless the US
2019-08-13 02:02
#34
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Nah he good, but still NA player LUL nowhere near s1mple and Zywoo, their team's performance relies strictly on them, for liquid everyone steps up, if Elige suck, twistzz gonna step up and so on, s1mple and Zywoo can't afford to have an off map.
2019-08-13 02:06
same thing happened with dev1ce last year. sure liquid would be alright without him, but hes the best player on the best team in the world with 3 mvps and a v good rating. i still think he gets higher than s1mple. (like dev1ce last yr over Niko)
2019-08-13 03:02
s1mple zywoo elige /closed
2019-08-13 01:58
nt
2019-08-13 02:06
flair checks out
2019-08-13 11:34
yes
2019-08-13 01:59
#30
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
No
2019-08-13 02:04
#25
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United States Raptorial 
1. s1mple 2. zywoo 3. elige
2019-08-13 02:01
#28
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
+1
2019-08-13 02:04
#33
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
The Major MVP will be a big decider between the 3, unless none of them get it. That's an F then.
2019-08-13 02:05
#36
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Ukraine richUkrainian 
Even if elige will get it, I dont think he'll surpass zywoo&s1mple, there's too big gap in ratings.
2019-08-13 02:06
#38
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Always gotta keep MVPs and EVPs in mind. I think ZywOo takes #1 over s1mple based on this and the past 3 months.
2019-08-13 02:10
ill take it a step further and say that if S1mple doesnt win another mvp, elige will def place higher
2019-08-13 03:26
#88
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
A major MVP was never enough to bridge the gsp in stats between s1mple and dev1ce.
2019-08-13 13:50
#90
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Maybe because s1mple ended the year with a .10 higher rating than device in 2018.
2019-08-13 16:55
#96
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
.04 difference is still quite a lot to bridge using achievements. Not denying the possibility
2019-08-13 17:41
#39
woxic | 
Brazil Skilo 
Prolly ELIGE MVP and #1
2019-08-13 02:12
ya hate to see it but if it happens, that means liquid have a major and an official era too
2019-08-13 03:10
#41
Xyp9x | 
Europe Ynnh0jDK 
Elige or Zywoo.Simple can't do it again.
2019-08-13 02:28
+1 sad but true
2019-08-13 02:59
#85
Xyp9x | 
Europe Ynnh0jDK 
GodSimple But Only one MVP at 2019 Sad about this
2019-08-13 12:45
This is very much like last yr zywoo is 2018 s1mple (obv not as good) elige 2018 device (best player on best team) s1mple 2018 Niko (obv more skilled than elige but will get lower due to team)
2019-08-13 03:00
+1
2019-08-13 11:50
IMO what Zyw0o is doing is quite impressive since his team is way worse than 2018 Na'vi were and I really mean that, he's carrying a tier 2 team in tier 1.
2019-08-14 05:07
deadass
2019-08-14 15:57
he already got #1 so he probably should focus on team achievements anyway
2019-08-13 03:04
he should but probs wont xD
2019-08-13 03:05
sad m8((((
2019-08-13 03:07
#52
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Luxembourg _hhh 
Elige is sick but so long as NaVi actually play the game the next few months I don't see him out placing simple
2019-08-13 03:13
navi can play but if they dont win, s1mple doesnt earn mvps. i think elige has enough to pass him in the yr tbh
2019-08-13 03:25
#92
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Luxembourg _hhh 
I guess it boils down to how much they value mvp's
2019-08-13 17:33
#54
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United States highlandyirr 
its august why are we talking about this now
2019-08-13 03:15
bcus august will end soon and when it does, there will only be 1/3 of the yr left. i think its fair to at least start the convo on how its gonna go :^)
2019-08-13 03:24
#61
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
It's always interesting to discuss stuff like this before the next season starts.
2019-08-13 03:30
Elige not even best on liquid OMEGALUL
2019-08-13 03:27
#62
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Elaborate
2019-08-13 03:30
Twistzz > Elige You could even make the case for NAF
2019-08-13 03:55
#68
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
Twistzz has a higher peak than EliGE, but EliGE has better stats this year.
2019-08-13 03:57
When twistzz is on his game he is by far the best and his flashy playstyle might put him over elige. We all know from last year that flashy carry style play (s1mple) beats a conservative but consistent play style (device). I feel like if twistzz peaks at the major and wins mvp top 1 is his. s1 and zyw0o havent really won anything
2019-08-13 04:02
#70
flusha | 
United States k3ar 
The problem with your argument is that s1mple had a .10 higher rating than device at Big Events last year. hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7998/s1mp.. Twistzz may be flashier than EliGE, but he doesn't have better stats than EliGE, thus making your argument bad. Of course, things could change over the next couple of months, but as for now, EliGE has been better.
2019-08-13 04:06
performing player>skilled player
2019-08-13 03:31
#98
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Elige is the best player in Liquid in terms of performance.
2019-08-13 17:42
#60
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Australia flashi 
id say the only person who would challenge s1mple this year would be zywoo but id still believe that s1mple RIGHT NOW is better than zywoo. dont know about elige tho he'd get rekt by s1mple ez pz so yikes
2019-08-13 03:27
hltv rankings are based on how players perform tho. s1mple will rek elige but even he has had a better yr than s1mple
2019-08-13 03:33
#65
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Australia flashi 
well them we hope s1mple will finally win a major
2019-08-13 03:35
it would be nice tbh
2019-08-13 05:32
#66
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United States Samsquanch_ 
It’s august
2019-08-13 03:44
#71
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China Nanjing 
0/8
2019-08-13 04:11
simple for sure
2019-08-13 06:28
doubt :/
2019-08-13 07:11
Year is not over, everything can happen. /closed
2019-08-13 06:52
for sure
2019-08-13 07:11
its just august chill /closed
2019-08-13 11:38
#82
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China KensonS 
i would pick elige if they won the sli major.
2019-08-13 11:39
#86
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Finland Goofyraider 
#1 Aerial Top Rifler RN [MVP Blast Pro Series Madrid] -m4as1 pro ultimate Tier 1 master -trains a lot -no1 still cares = HLTV users retarded
2019-08-13 12:59
#130
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flag and flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:39
IMO s1mple
2019-08-13 13:01
#131
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-08-14 17:39
Niko CLOSED/
2019-08-13 16:59
xD
2019-08-14 02:58
#93
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Wooooh calm down man twistzz still has a shot if he countinues to improve as he does now he could easily add 2-3 mvps in the comiong months same for every1 of s1 zywoo and elige
2019-08-13 17:34
mayb
2019-08-14 02:33
s1mple skipped his era just likr astralis s1mple > zywoo but zywoo will be #1 in 2019
2019-08-13 17:37
#129
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2019-08-14 17:39
flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:56
#97
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Brazil lul321 
#1 Elige
2019-08-13 17:42
there is no way elige is not #1 this year.
2019-08-14 03:07
device #1 easy
2019-08-14 03:10
#128
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
name and flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:39
Twistzz>all Twistzz #1
2019-08-14 04:07
good but not best
2019-08-14 14:14
#123
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
+10000000000000000000000000000000000000
2019-08-14 17:37
#127
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:38
#134
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
man im like s1mple aswell :D
2019-08-14 17:43
#138
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
prove it to me change ur flair right now
2019-08-14 19:42
#140
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Why would i need to prove it to you? I know who i like and been an s1 fan since 2016 but been admiring twistzz alot lately since hes 19 and insane and cool
2019-08-14 19:55
#141
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
idc you said you like s1mple so you need to prove it to me.
2019-08-14 19:58
#144
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Wow u are really an douche i hope nothing but the worst for u
2019-08-14 20:00
#147
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
YOU SAID YOU LIKE S1MPLE SO YOU SHOULD CHANGE UR FLAIR TO S1MPLE. IS THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND FOR U????
2019-08-14 20:00
#149
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Yea u said it but i dont give a fuck about u so just stfu
2019-08-14 20:55
#156
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
plastic fan boy
2019-08-14 23:51
#126
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:38
#108
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Australia t0rrent 
Device #1
2019-08-14 04:13
i see him like 4 or 5
2019-08-14 14:14
#109
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Canada ActioN_ 
Flair checks out
2019-08-14 04:14
s1mple needs to play more events if that doesn't happen Zyw0o is clear top 1 atm not even debatable, 3 mvps, titles, carrying shit washed up french bots from tier 3 in tier 1, good stats, best rating against top 5 on LAN this year, does literally everything for Vitality. Zyw0o also with m4a4 his recoil control is so fucking insane literally the best I've ever seen in my life, his m4 doesn't look like it even has recoil, he's the best awper by miles as well and insane with all weapons. This guy is so young as well imagine if he keeps improving, only been pro for few months.
2019-08-14 05:16
its gonna be a fun couple of months when all these teams start playing eachother more
2019-08-14 14:15
#117
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Greece Petsos 
flair doesnt check out
2019-08-14 14:18
Why just because I'm fan of s1mple I can't admire another player? He is doing literally the same thing s1mple did last year except his team is WAY LOWER than Na'vi are, Na'vi with Flamie & Electronic are way better players than garbage like apex & alex, Na'vi also has one of the best IGL of all time. I find it quite impressive honestly.
2019-08-15 05:33
-elige +NiKo elige patato
2019-08-14 14:15
#118
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Greece Petsos 
Niko will barely be in top 10 wdym and thats not guaranteed
2019-08-14 14:19
elige is clearly team player
2019-08-14 14:26
#121
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Macau fAKEs2j 
Agreed. accurate.
2019-08-14 16:02
#125
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-08-14 17:38
#124
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
ofc s1mple top 1 2019
2019-08-14 17:37
who's zywoo?
2019-08-14 17:40
straight men
2019-08-14 19:43
#145
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
some random onliner who got 2 decent showings and people comparing him to goat s1mple OMEGALUL
2019-08-14 20:00
#133
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Agree Zywoo Elige Simple Twistzz Magisk
2019-08-14 17:41
#143
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8 1. s1mple 2. EliGe 3. ZyWho 4. TwistzZ 5. Magisk
2019-08-14 19:59
id only put dev1ce over magisk
2019-08-14 21:28
#155
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United States Trump2020KAG 
It could go ether way. I pick mag cuz I feel he’s one of the best defenders in all of cs plus fuck awpers
2019-08-14 21:34
tru
2019-08-15 07:39
S1mple Zywoo EliGE
2019-08-14 17:48
#137
GuardiaN | 
Poland JKG 
+111111 s1mple should be TOP3-5 this year, unless he win a major and get MVP for it (we all know its not going to happen)
2019-08-14 17:58
#142
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt dead scene s1mple will win the major and also mvp and will be top1 too
2019-08-14 19:59
#150
GuardiaN | 
Poland JKG 
and then you'll wake up, "Europe Scene" btw flair checks out
2019-08-14 20:58
#157
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
way better than poland scene OMEGALUL 1 team in 7 years which is now irrelevant truth is bitter NaVi will win the major and s1mple will be MVP also top 1 2019
2019-08-14 23:52
#158
GuardiaN | 
Poland JKG 
xDD what ?
2019-08-14 23:55
#162
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Greece Petsos 
afraid to show his flag and says its a way better scene than poland and poland is in europe LUL
2019-08-15 11:03
#164
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
nt no scene 4 majors scene
2019-08-15 11:19
#166
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Greece Petsos 
yeah sure
2019-08-15 11:21
So what makes ZywOo more special than many other prospects and why does he have the potential to cross the aforementioned hurdles? First of all, he is extremely confident. Even when he is struggling, which is not often, he keeps trying. This might seem like a not-so-rare characteristic but it is one required of every pro player. His calmness, which has been pointed out by people who have watched him perform live, is another great speciality, which means that he can be relied upon in clutch situations. To top it all, ZywOo is exceptionally versatile. He belongs in the scarce group of hybrid players who are great at using both the AWP and rifles. Likewise, he can be quite scary when using pistols, both in pistol rounds and force-buys. In order to have a better understanding of these characteristics, you can watch this frag movie, which was
2019-08-14 20:00
yes
2019-08-14 21:30
s1mple been dodging lots of tournaments. His team basically has no achievements this year. I still think he is 1, but unless navi can win some tournaments he won't be first.
2019-08-14 20:04
basically
2019-08-14 21:29
#159
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Serbia d1ckson 
Elige is bestest mens)))
2019-08-14 23:56
#163
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Greece Petsos 
I believe its 1.Zywoo 2.Elige 3.S1mple just because navi havent attended many tournaments and liquid won multiple tournaments in a row with elige being their best player . If liquid keeps going like that and wins the major s1mple wont be top 1 or even top 2
2019-08-15 11:06
+1 basically
2019-08-15 21:03
#165
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France VeryG2Guy 
Zywoo > all
2019-08-15 11:20
+1 v tru
2019-08-15 21:04
useless stats and u know it xd
2019-08-16 05:19
S1mple solo carry in a team of knobs. Elige good player but equal to others. This thread is about player performance. S1mple is out of elige his league.
2019-08-16 11:36
u used all time stats buddy. dis 2019 boi, s1mple hasnt played even close to the nunber of maps that elige has. and you SHOULD be praised for having the best stats/most mvps on the best team lmao. if you gonna reward good players on shit teams then players like jame make top 20
2019-08-17 02:49
#169
Dosia | 
Russia Rapu 
Let's see after major who is the GOAT and who is a goat :)
2019-08-15 11:29
#170
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Spain mokerz 
1 simple 2 simple 3 simple
2019-08-15 11:33
1+2+3 s1mple top 6
2019-08-16 05:20
S1mple is top 1 anyway
2019-08-16 11:31
nop
2019-08-17 02:49
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