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What is your argument to keep eating meat ? also if you are one of those who hate vegans, what is your argument to hate them ? (hating extremist vegans is nothing new, even vegans hate extremist vegans.)
2019-08-14 00:23
#1
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Denmark FazeUpAssDown 
Taste good
2019-08-14 00:23
Meat itself honestly dont taste anything. All of the meat you eat is heavily spiced and marinated. Ever tried a spoonful of meat that was not spiced nor marinated and straight from the butchery ? it tastes like nothing but bites.
2019-08-14 00:25
this is definitely wrong and i heavily doubt that you have ever tried it this way
2019-08-14 00:27
i definitely tried meat that was not spiced or touched. it has no taste at all. just like any vegan option. most of the foods we eat has to be spiced.
2019-08-14 00:29
wrong, it has definitely taste, the modern tongue is just way too much used to spices
2019-08-14 00:31
well arent we living on the modern age ? everything has a taste of a sort. meat still has very minimal taste and what most people think of as meat taste is one of those marinated and spiced stakes.
2019-08-14 00:41
whats even your point, spiced or not, vegetables can never replace meat in terms of taste and nutrients
2019-08-14 00:45
my point exactly is that you can enjoy vegan options like meat with correct spicing. about nutrients, you have to eat different kinds of vegan foods to get all the nutrients, just like meat eater. you dont get all the nutrients just from meat.
2019-08-17 01:24
wrong ffs there is NOTHING tasting as good as meat. and ofc you dont get all nutrients from meat; we are omnivores, the only ones who cant understand are vegans not me lul
2019-08-17 01:27
why are you saying meat cant be never replaced then ? the taste is always subjective and i dont think you ever tasted a really good vegan options.
2019-08-17 01:31
we are omnivores as i said. you are follower of a small trend nothing more. people have eaten meat forever and will eat it forever
2019-08-17 01:34
humans are very versatile beings. our bodies can use alot of nutrients and micronutrients and change them. and the "small trend" is not that small. people are realising that animal agriculture is destroying earth.
2019-08-17 01:36
you think that because youre living in your bubble. bored people forgot the real problems so they have to invent new ones. look into 3rd world which makes the majority of our population and search for vegans there lul. just do what you want and stop spreading your shit like a dirty sect. i`ll enjoy meat for its many advantages, proteins with high biological value, many minerals and vitamins and last but not least its far superior taste. i wont be forced to watch everyday at what i have to eat in order to avoid malnutrition. i will do it how humans have done it since the start of their existence and im doing well with it
2019-08-17 01:45
the 3rd world countries dont have a choice. we do. the nutrient part has been argued so much that i cant be asked anymore. but you simply cant compare some 3rd world country to have the same opportunities as us.
2019-08-17 01:46
Bruh, he likes the taste of meat, leave him alone jesus christ To each their own
2019-08-18 22:45
+1 This
2019-08-17 11:24
#504
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Europe roseheader 
+1
2019-08-17 11:29
You re wrong. Firstly, marinating does not add flavour. Secondly i love eating raw meat with just salt.
2019-08-14 01:07
well marinating obviously does add flavor wtf? But there definitely is loads of flavor in raw meat
2019-08-15 14:55
It does not do shit to meat. Its a myth.
2019-08-17 01:31
#376. also salt is adding flavour. im talking about meat heated to eatable temperature with nothing on it.
2019-08-17 01:33
#385, marinating meats its a myth. Doesnt do shit. I eat raw meat even without salt. Love the tender texture and flavour.
2019-08-17 02:20
you actually have no tastebuds if you think marinating doesn't give meat flavor what the FUCK
2019-08-17 11:01
google.com/amp/s/www.epicurious.com/expe.. You have no clue what you re talking about. Just stfu.
2019-08-18 04:08
so they are marinating meat for 24 hours in spice heavy liquids for what ? for fun ?
2019-08-17 01:25
Its a myth. Marinating meats barely does anything. It has been pretty much debunked.
2019-08-17 01:32
#447
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United Kingdom iowBill 
are you a fucking idiot? literally try it yourself, you can taste the flavor in marinated meat. I disagree with a lot of what OP said but you are wrong dude
2019-08-17 03:26
Most likely he is saying that the marinate doesn't add flavor to the meat itself, as if you cook raw meat and add tomato sauce on top, you would taste the tomato sauce and meat mixture.
2019-08-17 10:05
Nah. You re wrong. Marinating does not add any more flavour than regular seasoning to meat. You re the fucking idiot here. google.com/amp/s/www.epicurious.com/expe..
2019-08-18 04:12
#522
Zeus | 
United Kingdom iowBill 
Not gonna lie I kind of trust my tastebuds more than this random news site
2019-08-18 18:13
This random news website is filled with factual information anyone with a working brain can find elsewhere on the internet. Its everywhere. And its kinda obvious marinating doesnt do shit to meat.
2019-08-20 21:50
#582
Zeus | 
United Kingdom iowBill 
but it literally tastes different
2019-08-21 15:23
#166
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Ever heard of smoking or salt?
2019-08-14 01:54
+1
2019-08-15 12:22
yes but that is still not eating meat that is just heated. you are applying taste with smoking and salting.
2019-08-17 01:26
#426
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Sure but it's not processed with preservatives and shit. You can even roast it over an open fire without anything and still enjoy it.
2019-08-17 02:17
#265
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Finland Karri 
i eat everything with just salt, im allerigc to most sauces and spices and I can confrim, it does have a taste and it's amazing, you're just braindead as fuck
2019-08-14 09:44
but salt has taste. im talking about meat that has only been heated to correct temperature for eating. spices, salt, smoking or anything that adds any flavour is not what im talking about. you can use all of those for different vegan options.
2019-08-17 01:27
i have to jump in and disagree with you here. Salt, does in fact, not add taste to the food its applied to. However, it does bring out more of the already existing flavour, as an enhancer to the food and spices you might've already mixed in there. If you add salt to unmarinated and none spiced meat, all it'll do is bring out more of the natural flavour in the meat, although IMO its very bland depending on what kind of meat you choose. The only "taste" you get from salt is the Natrium part of the NaCl binding, which honestly cant be described as a spice.
2019-08-17 12:48
#274
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
But it has a nice savory base that can get a lot of flavor. You cant get the same thing from a piece of lettuce like that
2019-08-14 09:56
This is the most false thing i have ever read. I never buy spiced meat and i nearly only eat chicken, i cook it without anything for my sport and even then it has a lot of taste. Maybe you fucked up your tasting buds but what you are saying is utterly false. Tofu and the likes have nearly no taste and are well known to act like a sponge to absorb spice and sauces.
2019-08-14 10:23
#443
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Finland Smoonah 
if the meat is of good quality, seasoning it will ruin the taste of the meat. all it ever needs is a little salt/pepper
2019-08-17 03:18
salt and pepper... why am i not seeing people say nothing ? it either people ordering a steak on restaurant that has is marinated for a week or a "natural" steak that is spiced with salt and pepper. SALT AND PEPPER ADD FLAVOUR.
2019-08-17 03:21
#519
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Finland Smoonah 
I've never put "spices" on any of my Filet Mignon or Wagyu beef. Not quite sure what kind of fucking moron would do that.
2019-08-18 00:24
#497
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Turkey Slapdash 
Get a ribeye that's 3-5 cm thick. Just put salt on it and put it in an oven at 100C° until the internal temperature is around 45-50C°. Then sear it in a hot cast iron pan. You will taste meat i promise.
2019-08-17 11:09
#498
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Turkey Slapdash 
And tell me any vegetable that's that tasty with just salt.
2019-08-17 11:13
#14
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Lithuania Azakariux 
do u eat raw grass ? if not, then most likely u use spices and whatever taste enhancers too
2019-08-14 00:27
i do not eat grass. i eat food with spices, just like you. you just havent tasted what ur meat would taste without any spicing.
2019-08-14 00:30
#34
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Lithuania Azakariux 
ofc i know it wouldnt taste that good, a lot of food wouldnt, what the fuck is ur point?
2019-08-14 00:31
point is that people who eat meat on daily claim that the meat they keep eating is better tasting because "it taste better". they have never even tasted vegan option that was spiced well. they ate some vegan burger on some random grill that used only chili to spice their burger.
2019-08-14 00:38
#84
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Lithuania Azakariux 
i ate some sort of vegan meat and im pretty sure it was spiced and prepared very well yet it didnt taste quite as enjoyable as meat. if ur point is simply people dont like vegan food because they didnt taste it idk why tf u trying to argue. ofc u can make vegan food taste as good as non vegan, but that (in my opinion) takes more time and cash. also if u live with a few people it must be pretty annoying because they couldnt make nonvegan food or u would have to make food for urself. also meat is pretty cheap and common so u never have to worry about getting products from any store
2019-08-14 00:43
"ofc u can make vegan food taste as good as non vegan, but that (in my opinion) takes more time and cash" it dont really take much cash. nor time. ur opinion dont count when u havent made vegan food for a group. also yeah meat in itself might be "cheap" but very little peopel eat only meat in itself. vegan diet is not that expensive to get all the nutrients.
2019-08-14 00:49
#112
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Lithuania Azakariux 
well i know a few families who have vegan members and most of them are not very happy with it, they say its annoying not being able to cook whatever u want and having to make vegan meals only and since people are not used to cooking vegan making it taste good and unique is quite a reduntant task for them. also people dont go vegan because vegans are annoyoing, u creating a thread just to force ur opinion into peoples heads just because u think its right proves how annoying vegans are. eat ur fucking grass and dont tell others what to do, meateaters and everyone else should do the same
2019-08-14 00:57
My wife is vegan and she says meat taste better, i often eat vegan too because it please her. You are pushing a false narrative there. I'm against pork and beef meat even thought i know it tastes better. Don't push a fallacy into people's face. I would feel better if it wasn't the case.
2019-08-14 10:25
Dont eat meat, but a good steak you literally only need salt and pepper for.
2019-08-14 00:29
Not true at all, plus I rarelly use anything besides salt to cook it.
2019-08-14 00:40
then you've had some shitty ass meat
2019-08-14 00:46
#115
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Bulgaria Ju7y 
You have to be trolling, what type of meat do you buy in Finland? Jesus I, feel bad for you ppl.
2019-08-14 00:57
#141
Xyp9x | 
Turkey drizit 
wrong mate, I cook a lot.
2019-08-14 01:13
that is probably this dumbest thing I've heard in a while
2019-08-14 02:12
???? you ever ate meat that was rare? you can taste the blood? tastes good imo
2019-08-14 02:30
what restaurant was that ? do you think that steak was marinated for 24 or 48 hours ?
2019-08-17 02:14
-1
2019-08-14 09:52
#276
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North America noahB_ 
I eat meat cause i dont give any moral consideration to animals, and it is convenient and tasty to me.
2019-08-14 10:04
there is an old saying: "only cows eat grass" I guess that sums up your vegan shit
2019-08-14 15:37
U WOT M8??? ever tried raw minced meat? Veal and pork mix? fucking tasty without anythinng added.
2019-08-15 14:54
who told you this bullshit? LMAO And if you tried: DO you even have taste buds?
2019-08-17 01:35
thanks for being honest about the subjective taste of meat
2019-08-17 02:12
all these replies... they ate some rare meat on a restaurant that had those steaks marinated in the fridge for a week. thinking they just ate natural heated meat.
2019-08-17 02:16
#499
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Turkey Slapdash 
Keep telling yourself that.
2019-08-17 11:20
I work at a butcher AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS FALSE
2019-08-17 03:51
yeah, but with good spices it tastes good. no vegan shit tastes the same yet.
2019-08-17 11:23
#441
swag | 
Netherlands Prexxov 
I like Döner i won't stop eating my döner.
2019-08-17 03:16
#500
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Turkey Slapdash 
You know what's good man
2019-08-17 11:21
#580
swag | 
Netherlands Prexxov 
indeed
2019-08-20 13:34
#509
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Sri Lanka Kandy 
+1
2019-08-17 12:36
it tastes good
2019-08-14 00:23
#3
forget | 
Brazil _7x1_ 
meat eaters have a weak mindset thats why they hate superior vegans its a fact, meat eaters are just weak betas
2019-08-14 00:24
#18
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Poland Crosky77 
Never in my life saw worse bait
2019-08-14 00:28
#127
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Lithuania Azakariux 
u misspelled the word vegans 2 times
2019-08-14 01:04
yeah ik how did he misspell idiot twice?
2019-08-14 03:47
I only hate the vegans that cry about how much we destroy the world
2019-08-14 02:13
'weak' Yet alone theres no vegans that are strong
2019-08-17 03:51
#510
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Sri Lanka Kandy 
Nt.
2019-08-17 12:37
Good taste
2019-08-14 00:24
Easy protein I guess
2019-08-14 00:25
+1
2019-08-15 12:21
+1
2019-08-17 04:19
Nothing triggers me more than people trying to be modern and intelligent when they support eating meat. They act like since it's tasty and culturally acceptable then it must be the smart choice. But no. Modern culture was fucking retarded all along. Eating meat has always been a long-running debate but it really just comes down to this: you only need meat because its tasty and you enjoy it, nothing else. You dont need meat to survive, so you think killing animals for tastebuds is okay, and the animal pays for it, but you don't want to care or be aware of the suffering the animal is going through. You can survive without meat perfectly fine, but choose not to for hedonistic pleasure. People come up with imaginary scenarios like "what if you were stranded on a island and had to eat a squirrel to survive" to defend their right to kill pigs for bacon. In reality they just like the way meat tastes and just want to have fun at the expense of a suffering animal.
2019-08-14 00:25
#9
COCAINE | 
Germany MDMA^ 
but I like meat
2019-08-14 00:26
and i like cocaine
2019-08-14 00:27
No need to lie, I'm sure I seen you post about how you never wanna try drugs because it decreases your lifespan or some dumb shit the other day so nt kiddo Meat>Veg anyday
2019-08-14 00:29
wait because i said drugs are bad means i can't like em? i tried almost every drug out there btw
2019-08-14 00:31
American education lul
2019-08-14 00:31
if you can't seem to understand the difference i really can't help you nerd
2019-08-14 00:32
You didn't read what I said, you just replied. Nerd.
2019-08-14 00:32
you clearly didn't understand the difference, it's alright to be retarded though
2019-08-14 00:33
I didn't understand the difference between you saying "drugs are bad" and "I like cocaine" when my original point was that I am almost 100% sure I seen you post about how you 'will never try drugs' the other day so how can you like something you are not willing to try? If we're going by that logic I love to fuck your moth...nvm actually because I do this on a daily basis so that won't work
2019-08-14 00:35
i never claimed that i will never take drugs, the original post was that every drug except psychedelics are useless. if you talk shit, at least get your source right
2019-08-14 00:36
Whatever helps you sleep at night you absolute incel
2019-08-14 00:37
exposed and still talking shit, literal retard, have a nice day though
2019-08-14 00:37
Like I said, whatever helps you sleep at night, also don't call people retards because your brain cannot seem to read more than 8words in a sentence. PS: this is kinda funny because I've got 2 girls in my discord right now laughing at you trying to seem smart but being stupid, they are absolutely crying with laughter, hopefully if you can do maths you'll realise that is 100% of the girls in my discord laughing at you, a straight 2-0 ratio
2019-08-14 00:39
people still use that copypasta?
2019-08-14 00:40
nt dawg
2019-08-14 00:41
yiker
2019-08-14 00:41
tldr
2019-08-14 00:27
K1to is Hitler
2019-08-14 00:36
true but why is he saying that in a thread about meat((
2019-08-14 00:57
Yet animals kill other animals to eat. That's just nature. We're omnivores. Us being burdened with intelligence and empathy doesn't mean we should ignore this. Vegetarians are ok but no vegan diet can give us all the nutrition we need, you'd have to take supplements. And people treat soy as some magical substitute except in terms of environmental impact it's just as bad as farming cattle, and it fucks with your hormones. Also, meat tastes good. I can never be sure of this, but I hope the beef I eat comes from a cow who had a nice long life and was killed in a humane, painless way. And same for everything else. Honestly, lab grown meat is the future.
2019-08-14 00:32
"I can never be sure of this, but I hope the beef I eat comes from a cow who had a nice long life and was killed in a humane, painless way. And same for everything else." good one buddy
2019-08-14 00:38
Ok, so you focused on one sentence I said that wasn't even my main point. Guess you couldn't answer anything else. And that sentence is why I think either lab grown meat is the future, or we need to change the way we produce meat instead of stopping eating it. We can make it more environmentally friendly and minimise animal suffering. But still, the chance that cow died in pain doesn't mean I'm not going to eat it. Death is unavoidable, and recycling is better than just letting it rot.
2019-08-14 01:36
#245
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World spaaace 
if you live in the UK most cows are grass reared so you can be somewhat happier about the life they lived and the quality of the beef - unlike america where they are pumped with hormones and much higher levels of antibiotics, there is a reason american beef is banned from the eu.
2019-08-14 09:13
Yeah exactly, a lot of it does depend on the country
2019-08-14 14:44
yes it indeed does. but it doesnt mean we shouldnt do our part. usa, china, india all mass produce and it has devastating effects. we should lead the example and try to make them move towards the goals.
2019-08-18 21:57
" I hope the beef I eat comes from a cow who had a nice long life and was killed in a humane, painless way" dying isn't cool, it doesn't matter how
2019-08-14 15:12
Dying is inevitable But if the cow lives for a long time and then dies quick and painlessly isn't it better than it getting old and getting weak legs or illnesses or something with old age?
2019-08-14 15:18
Would be great, but it's not going to happen: br.pinterest.com/pin/269934571401092149/..
2019-08-14 15:20
And replies like this are why you need to know what's already been said in the thread before you speak. Idk what country that is anyway but America is pretty bad so it might not account for everywhere
2019-08-14 15:34
it doesn't matter. you're not living in wonderland. it works like that in every country. as simple as that.
2019-08-14 15:36
And replies like this are why you need to know what's already been said in the thread before you speak.
2019-08-14 15:36
No, I do not
2019-08-14 15:37
You really do lmao
2019-08-14 15:42
Sounds good to me
2019-08-14 00:36
do you eat meat?
2019-08-14 00:51
Yes()()()
2019-08-14 01:01
Bigger triggers out there. Chill the fuck out. Harvesting fields kills WAY more animals than ranching cattle. When a combine rools through a field it kills all the mice, squirrels, moles, voles, etc. The ones lucky enough to survive will have their habitat ruinned and will therefore get killed by foxes/hawks. Feeding cattle to eat them afterwards asures also they are properly taken care of. What do you think would happen otherwise? Yeah, people would stop feeding and taking care of them. No, fucking zoo its not an option. Is it better to exist (as a cow) and live a happy life or not exist at all? Os it better to raise cattle for slaughter or to slaughter similarly sentient rodents for crop production? Meat tastes better and is probably the best source of protein and aminoacids while being easly digestable, something i ll always struggle with.
2019-08-14 01:39
bruh don't waste your energy on my effortless bait, i didn't even try to make it look decent enough for people to actually reply
2019-08-14 01:49
#177
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Lithuania Sedge 
well said
2019-08-14 02:25
Usually i think your posts are bad but this is elite posting right there mate
2019-08-14 03:18
damn are they really that bad though
2019-08-14 03:19
I used the wrong words. They're not bad perse, just we have different opinions.
2019-08-14 03:21
alright, nothing wrong with that, appreciated.
2019-08-14 03:24
nothing triggers me more than people being vegan because its popular
2019-08-14 15:35
Actually no this is all false. Yes maybe you dont need meat to survive but you need to have other things to replace all the nutrients For example Protein. Learn your shit
2019-08-17 03:57
#160
2019-08-17 03:58
Im not searching for your shit. Stop being a lazy cunt and re-type it or copy n paste.
2019-08-17 04:00
It's literally a few posts above this one you fucking mongoloid
2019-08-17 04:01
I dont give a fuck, its your argument Im not gonna find, YOU MONGOLOID
2019-08-17 04:02
you got baited, that's pretty much what it says
2019-08-17 04:03
Mhmmm sure
2019-08-17 04:04
read it
2019-08-17 04:05
Mhmmm sure
2019-08-17 09:29
#8
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United States Troglxdyte 
If I crave a burger, I'm eating a burger
2019-08-14 00:25
#178
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Lithuania Sedge 
If I crave murdering someone, I'm murdering someone
2019-08-14 02:27
nt soyboy
2019-08-14 15:27
#347
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Nigeria Fraggot 
nt soyboy
2019-08-15 18:24
#353
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Lithuania Sedge 
it was more of an analogy to show just because you crave something, doesn't mean you just have it. also not vegan btw, never even tried soy
2019-08-16 01:43
#354
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Nigeria Fraggot 
geras bandymas soju berniuk
2019-08-17 00:11
Yeah. i crave my uncles wealth so i just steal it. meat eaters think they can do whatever they crave/want. there is reasons not to.
2019-08-18 21:59
idc if you are vegan, i eat meat because this is how i live my life and how humans have done for hundreds of thousands of years
2019-08-14 00:26
but humans did not mass produce meat for thousands of years. they hunted then in the wild for survival. that is way different to mass animal agriculture where where we torture animals and destroy our planet for food that we dont even need.
2019-08-14 00:28
you see humans have been eating meat longer than they have been eating just plants it worked out great as me and you are here today and i hope one day the same happens, i want to see a better human being than we have today
2019-08-14 00:31
#179
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Lithuania Sedge 
thats not even remotely close to the truth.
2019-08-14 02:27
humans have also been using rocks for hammering longer than actual hammers. we have gone way beyond than our pre ancestors. that doesnt mean we should keep using rocks as hammer nor using meat as our food.
2019-08-17 00:48
So why don't you think the solution is to change the way we produce meat, instead of not eating it?
2019-08-14 00:33
You can eat meat but ppl are eating meat for enjoyment on a daily basis. That is the problem coupled with overpopulation and overconsumerism.
2019-08-14 03:22
Ok, I eat meat for enjoyment AND my health People might eat meat for enjoyment but they also get a balanced diet.
2019-08-14 03:36
I dont eat meat for the enjoyment, I eat meat to get my nutrition in my body. Sure there is other ways to do that. But meat is the easiest option. No I dont agree on how they slaughter the animals, but what are we gonna do when all the animals die.... Waste the meat?
2019-08-17 04:00
because the request for meat right now is way too high. to meet the demand we HAVE to mass grow animals and slaughter them. if every human cut their meat consumption ALOT then maybe yes we could still eat meat and not destroy our planet. but right now with this demand it simply is not possible.
2019-08-18 22:02
#79
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Nice contradiction. We raise the animals so we dont hunt em which means that the nature balance remains Ez skins
2019-08-14 00:42
yeah. nice natural balance when we forcefully overgrow cattle to slaughter them slowly so our supermarkets can have ur favorite beef. totally the same thing.
2019-08-18 22:03
#250
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World spaaace 
we torture animals? like ripping they paws off trying to get them to give us information? wtf are you talking about.
2019-08-14 09:16
+1
2019-08-15 12:21
multiple mass producing farms slowly bleed cows to death so the meat has better texture. same with pigs and whatnot.
2019-08-18 22:05
Was about to comment
2019-08-14 00:28
+1
2019-08-14 00:28
#27
forget | 
Brazil _7x1_ 
people have killed each other for hundreds of thousands of years... doesnt make it right
2019-08-14 00:30
and we have laws and ethics against that
2019-08-14 00:32
#68
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Yes we do, but you said that since we did it a long time ago. It's morally acceptable now? So killing eachother is also morally acceptable?
2019-08-14 00:40
never said that if youre gonna use that argument than why do other animals kill and eat other animals? shouldnt they stop as well we are all apart of nature and if u think otherwise i dont know what to tell ya
2019-08-14 00:42
#86
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
The thing with those animals is that they are omnivours. Their teeth is sharp ours is flat? Their blood can regulate cholesterol which our body can't that's why humans can get atherosclorosis and ex lions can't
2019-08-14 00:43
yo fuckin retard humans have canines too
2019-08-14 00:52
doesnt make it right +1 but in the end violence between humans is sadly just as natural as eating meat and will never disappear. we cant change our nature
2019-08-14 00:40
We literally change our nature every day. We have free will. That makes us able to deny "our nature" Or do you think most human behaviour aligns well with common animal behaviour?
2019-08-14 00:45
yes i do. proven from day 1 up to today in human history. you think "people will change because of their free will and there will be no more violence? or racism? or whatever?
2019-08-14 00:49
Oh, birds join suicide cults? Dolphins travel in to space? Monkeys shitpost on HLTV? We are so different from anything on this planet. Funny that you mention violence and racism. Traits that human excel at a million times more than any other species, or when was the last time you saw giraffes round up zebras in concentration camps because they didnt like their stripes? Animals are cruel and violent, but consistently so, usually only for terratorial/survival-type of stuff. We are the unnatural ones.
2019-08-14 00:58
but still all those things you mentioned are like a red string troughout human history, which will continue outside your happy-world bubble. humans are cruel and violent, as consistently as animals. they always were, they always will be
2019-08-14 01:10
No we are not. We are way worse. I'd like for you to actually come with some argument instead of a vague red string, whatever that is supposed to mean? Also tf does my "happy-world bubble" even mean?
2019-08-14 01:11
ofc we are worse i didnt say otherwise, but still consistent. "red string" is a common saying in german,the correct translation is probably more llike this: "but still all those things you mentioned run like a continuous thread troughout human history. "
2019-08-14 01:24
I know what a red string is but I dont know what you mean by it. What is the red string?
2019-08-14 01:29
it means that all of those things you said in #113 like racism, violence etc was always a part of humanity and will always be. that we (humanity) will never be able to change those things. basically what i wanted to say with #102 red string = continuous thread
2019-08-14 01:34
If violence will always be a part why is the rate of violence (with some hiccups) steadily going down? When you have free will only your (and our) minds is the limit. Sex, for instance, definately a primal instinct. Yet people have lived in celibacy for their entire lives etc.
2019-08-14 02:07
so in order to stop ourselves just turning in a circle - you believe that it is possible for the future that violence wont be a part of daily life? that is it possible without greed and hate taking over?
2019-08-14 02:14
Violence isnt part of my daily life. But I know what you mean and I think its possible. It needs work though and a lot of it. Likely? Idk man not feeling it atm
2019-08-14 02:17
and imo it will never be possible. even if the most thought like that there will always be assholes taking advantage of that. Many people in the past have thought like you and dont get me wrong, its a good thing to believe in but on the other side i think its almost a bit arrogant to think we can do better than thousands of generations prior to us
2019-08-14 02:24
Why is it arrogant? In general (with setbacks, for instance fall of Rome etc) we become better by each generation. Science, tech, medicin etc progresses, this combined with what I previously mention with becoming less violent.
2019-08-14 09:03
You are aware that the bloodiest conflict (by far) and the biggest genocide (by far) was not even 80 years ago?
2019-08-14 09:07
You are aware that is has happened more in the last 100 years than in the last 1000.
2019-08-14 09:11
war? war never changes
2019-08-14 09:13
Actually it might. We are now seeing increase in war of information and war of economics. Possibly in the future about climate. However that will manifest. Like, I dont know the future, but I dont think looking at the past is a good way to predict the future
2019-08-14 12:45
Humans have not eaten the quantity of meat we are eating today ever before. Meat was a luxury. Now, literally everyone I know (who eats meat) has it for every single meal of the day.
2019-08-14 00:31
agree we should lower our meat consumption but we shouldnt force it
2019-08-14 00:32
Nah, just tax the shit out of it and no more meat factories.
2019-08-14 00:34
the meat industry is huge, all u will do is create a monopoly unless you have like 60%+ tax rate
2019-08-14 00:35
Okay, so tax the shit out of meat factories (and not ACTUAL farms) *
2019-08-14 00:37
i mean yeah it could work but imagine the outrage that will happen, many people will lose their jobs
2019-08-14 00:38
#82
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France Ruben_H 
+1 finally someone with a brain
2019-08-14 00:42
+1 smart mens
2019-08-17 00:44
Best source of protein, muscle building. Simple as that
2019-08-14 00:28
Only valid if you are actually bodybuilding
2019-08-14 00:32
No its really not. You're probably a fucking stick if you believe that, thats why Diets always have certain MEATS.
2019-08-17 04:02
Literally noone suffers from protein deficancy but nt 3 y/o rhetorics
2019-08-17 12:15
You're literally retarded. People NEED protein to LIVE a HEALTHY LIFE For starters, protein is critical for every cell in our body. It helps build nails, hair, bones and muscles. It can also help you feel fuller longer than eating foods without protein. And, unlike nutrients that are found only in a few foods, protein is pretty much
2019-08-17 13:03
Literally noone suffers from protein deficancy but nt 3 y/o rhetorics. You know nothing about nutrition.
2019-08-17 14:26
Protein is found in many vegan options.
2019-08-17 14:26
Not denying that, but its not as good as protein from meat, I dont get why you guys (all the vegans) are trying to stop other people eat meat when they choose to eat meat, its not your life to choose what other people eat.
2019-08-17 22:49
vegan sources of protein would like to know your location... people often over estimate the need for protein when you try to workout. you dont fucking need 300g of protein a day. not even 200g unless you are legit top competitor.
2019-08-14 00:33
+1
2019-08-14 00:35
why would I buy vegan protein when I can just buy meat which tastes much better and also the only complete protein with all essential amino acids is animal protein. Veganism is not beneficial neither to you or the animals "you are saving"
2019-08-14 00:37
How is it not beneficial for the animals to not be eaten?
2019-08-14 00:41
How many animals do you think you all have ever saved? ( except for maybe actually adopting one or something). Whether you go and buy that chicken from the local market or not, someone else will, always. You don't reduce any animal killing. That's like saying just because you don't murder someone you will lower the crime rate in your country
2019-08-14 00:43
Rough calculation based on average american animal consumption from google search. A person eats 7k animals during a life time I count average male life as 75 7k/75*5=466 animals 5 being the years I havent eaten meat. Then again it doesnt work like this in practice. Your comparison falls pretty flat though because murder isnt really a product run by companies and thus isnt affected by supply and demand. If enough people dont eat meat, meat production will go down, and less animals will be born into slaughter. Boomer arguments really.
2019-08-14 00:51
Someone else ate it..
2019-08-14 01:51
#182
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Lithuania Sedge 
one person cannot eat for two in one lifetime.
2019-08-14 02:29
What?
2019-08-14 02:30
#186
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Lithuania Sedge 
Simply put, when you stop eating meat... no-one goes "ah he stopped eating meat, I have to double my meat intake", you remove yourself from the meat equation, it makes a difference. It's complicated and I can go into detail, but I hope you understand what I just said now.
2019-08-14 02:34
Many lack amino acids.
2019-08-14 01:43
comments here are pathetic imagine valueing your own "pleasure" (and getting a heart disease and contributing to global warming) over a life
2019-08-14 00:29
+1
2019-08-14 00:32
Sorry but this is the most ignorant vegan/vegetarian comment I've ever seen
2019-08-14 00:34
Why?
2019-08-14 00:35
Because it's not just about pleasure, it's about a balanced diet. And a vegan diet doesn't give you all the nutrients you need without supplements. Also, only excessive meat consumption gives you heart disease, excessive amounts of anything are bad for you. Also, farming soy, a main vegan meat substitute, is just as bad for the environment as farming cattle. And animals kill other animals, it's called the food chain. It's completely natural. A better solution would be to change the way we produce meat, to be better for the environment and have less animal suffering, instead of just not eating meat.
2019-08-14 01:33
only thing you need to supplement is b12 most people eat excessive amounts of meat I dont eat soy animals also rape and kill their babies, the "animals do it argument" is invalid you can't eat meat without suffering unless the animal dies a natural death which just isn't gonna happen
2019-08-14 01:44
1. Wrong 2. Vegans are generally more cautious about their diet because they have to be. If a vegan man ate a fuck ton of soy he'd probably grow boobs. 3. You might not, but a huge amount of vegans do. 4. Not all animals rape and kill their babies, all animals have their food sources. Tell me how many species rape or kill their babies compared to the number of species that eat meat? Your argument is invalid. 5. You do realise that animals can be put down painlessly, right? Just like humans can with euthanasia?
2019-08-14 01:55
1. if you eat a proper vegan diet you only need b12 2. the fact that you still think soy gives "man boobs" proves you know nothing about veganism, please read up on something before trying to argue against it. soy doesn't contain estrogen that affects humans, milk does however so if anything milk gives you man boobs 3. doesn't matter anyway, like another user said majority of it goes to cattle 4. once again, the animals do it argument is invalid, animals dont have morals 5. animals don't want to die, even if you put them down painlessly it's still suffering
2019-08-14 10:37
1. Wrong. 2. Man boobs is just a joke, but soy fucks with your hormones. There's no doubt about that. If you deny that you're delusional. 3. But the point is that if a vegan eats 1kg of soy, it's just as bad for the environment as 1kg of meat. So even though a lot of soy goes to cattle, gram for gram vegans who eat soy aren't cleaning up the environment at all. I also said "A better solution would be to change the way we produce meat, to be better for the environment and have less animal suffering, instead of just not eating meat." For example, in the UK cows eat grass, not soy. 4. The literal fact that vegans HAVE to take supplements to get all of the required nutrients should prove to you that humans are meant to eat meat. 5. You need to look up the definition of suffering.
2019-08-14 15:04
please come back when you have read up on plant-based diets, veganism and how modern slaughterhouses work, you're just wasting peoples time
2019-08-14 15:31
Now this is the pathetic thing that people like you do, you can't actually come back so you just play it down like I'm the stupid one, and it's really funny.
2019-08-14 15:36
#190
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
You're so full of shit it's funny. You need 7 supplements to be able to sustain vegan diet while not damaging your health. That says it all. Most vegans eat soy. Well people rape and kill their babies sometimes too. Humans are even worse coz animal does it only because it has to. Natural death can be ugly, even an injury for an animal mostly means slow death. There are many methods of putting down an animal when it doesn't even feel it.
2019-08-14 02:46
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz please do better, not even gonna waste my time on you
2019-08-14 10:38
#321
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Italy ReanuKeeves 
Keep sleeping in denial. "Only b12" my ass. hltv.org/forums/threads/2111288/vegans-m..
2019-08-15 11:45
LMAO you reply with that copypasta None of those links disprove the fact that vegan diets can be perfectly healthy. Tons of meat-eaters have tons of health problems too, so? Here's what the real professionals have to say about vegan diet: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 *It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.* From the Dietitians of Canada: dietitians.ca/Downloads/Factsheets/Guidl.. *A healthy vegan diet has many health benefits including lower rates of obesity, heart disease, high blood pressure, high blood cholesterol, type 2 diabetes and certain types of cancer.* *It may take planning to get enough protein, iron, zinc, calcium, vitamins D and B12 and omega-3 fats from foods or supplements. A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults* From the British Dietetic Association: bda.uk.com/foodfacts/plant-based_diet *Well-planned plant-based diets can support healthy living at every age and life-stage. Include a wide variety of healthy whole foods to ensure your diet is balanced and sustainable.* From the [Dietitians Association of Australia](daa.asn.au/smart-eating-for-you/smart-ea..) *With planning, those following a vegan diet can cover all their nutrient bases* And just for extra fun: Red meat is *"classified as Group 2A, probably carcinogenic to humans"*: who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/ Processed meat is *"classified as Group 1, carcinogenic to humans", same as tobacco & asbestos*: who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/ academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/80/5/1353/.. *high intakes of lactose and dairy products, particularly milk, are associated with an increased risk of serous ovarian cancer* academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/94/4/1088/.. *red meat consumption, particularly processed red meat, is associated with an increased risk of type 2 diabetes.* Sure, I'll address this as a performative measure for those reading. I picked one of your sources pseudorandomly (it caught my eye and contained a NIH citation): Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmed.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700 The NIH citation is a study of 1 (one) vegan family deficient in calcium and D3. One family is not representative of the results of a vegan diet. To close off, a citation of my own: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864/ It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes. So for those deficiencies that may exist among those you list, one can form a vegan diet that adequately covers them. Personally I supplement b12 and DHA omega 3's because they are harder to get, and take a multivitamin regardless. I did this when I was an omnivore too. It's basic diet planning.
2019-08-15 11:53
Majority of soy production goes to cattle which is a roughly 16:1 energy loss. You do the math. If you look in this thread, and in life you'd find that a lot of peoples main argument for eating meat is taste, hence his comment. As for supplements, yeah, you can take a b12 supplement. Or you dont even have to go vegan, you can just heavily reduce your meat consumption. Food chain argument is only really valid when you hunt. Or do you see predators mass produce their prey in factories? We have pretty much seperated ourselves from the food chain by now. From what I can tell, most people eat excessive amounts of meat. But yes, you should think about what you eat, that goes for vegans and meat eaters alike. Natural arguments are extremely cherry-picky. Dogs eat their own shit, yet I do not see many people promoting that. (Its because "its natural" is a bad argument) Like why should we look to what animals are doing? We are waaaaaaay smarter. This also goes for the vegan arguments that go like hurrr durr monkeys are herbivores etc. Like a shit ton of food has been GMO'd to be edible.
2019-08-14 02:04
1. "A better solution would be to change the way we produce meat, to be better for the environment and have less animal suffering, instead of just not eating meat." This applies to soy use in the whole process. But this is pointless anyway. The same amount of soy is as environmentally damaging as the same amount of meat. So vegans are still eating something just as bad for the environment. If soy and meat were switched in this instance, people eating one or the other would still have the same environmental impact. 2. I eat meat for the taste but I know it is good for me (in moderation) and so do most people 3. Not saying that some people shouldn't reduce their meat consumption. But vegans are generally more cautious about their diet because they have to be. If a meat eater was just as concerned about his diet then he would eat less meat and all the heart diseases vegans go on about wouldn't happen. 4. Ok, if you don't like the food chain argument or examples in nature to prove that humans are supposed to eat meat... Then the literal fact that vegans have to take supplements to stay healthy should ALSO prove my point. Also, not all animals eat shit. All animals have a source of food. 5. We're not seperate from the food chain, we're just on top. And does a caterpillar hunt leaves? But it would still be above plants in the food chain?
2019-08-14 03:49
#132
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
cows fart on their own. should we stop them from farting? animals kill each other. should we stop them from killing each other?
2019-08-14 01:08
+1
2019-08-14 01:40
wtf are you talking about
2019-08-14 01:44
#158
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
your comment
2019-08-14 01:46
how does what you said have any relevance to what I said
2019-08-14 01:49
#163
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
because cow farts have an impact to global warming and we can't stop them
2019-08-14 01:51
great third grader argument
2019-08-14 10:33
#371
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
Imagine being this big a pussy
2019-08-17 01:19
imagine being so uninformed.
2019-08-17 01:19
#21
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Europe CantGetMeNow 
I love the taste, I love the protein it contains as I am a sporty person and I just love everything about it, sorry if it sounded gross to you, vegans.
2019-08-14 00:29
#25
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Humans aren't meant to be vegetarians why do you think we can't digest a lot of plants? Look at our teeth we are omnivores.
2019-08-14 00:30
#26
United States koth 
I dont want animals to go hungry by eating their food.
2019-08-14 00:30
Funny baby boomer joke bro
2019-08-14 00:32
#39
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Argentina GREATfr 
Cuck
2019-08-14 00:32
great argument, i was totally turned around by this.
2019-08-14 00:33
#49
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
Are u vegan? If so, enjoy heart attack at 25 years
2019-08-14 00:34
im not vegan. also if you eat meat you have so much higher chance of getting a heart attack so ok.
2019-08-14 00:39
#75
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
But who are you then? You don't eat anything? lol If you are meat eater, what is the point of creating this thread?
2019-08-14 00:41
im vegetarian and i appreciate veganism. im a human after all and i have my weaknesses. im going for full on veganism and i think that this subject is too important to go unspoken. thats why i am making this thread.
2019-08-14 00:45
#94
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
That makes sense then I already posted my arguments against it in #87 But it's up to you
2019-08-14 00:46
okay well... "less protein, less vitamins, less hemoglobin - ez heart attack" this was your #87 comment. Less protein - you can get enough and even too much protein on vegan diet if you choose to. there is multiple choices for protein sources on vegan diet. Less hemomoglobin - tbh im not sure what you are after on this one but i googled it quickly. medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321530.php.. there is vegan options on every level. ez heart attack - i dont think u even trust in this. EDIT: about vitamins, vegans can get all the vitamins but yeah they have to supplement on B12. as if ur not supplementing on some vitamins.
2019-08-14 00:57
#116
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
I'm not an expert, but I just know that you can't eat only meat or only vegetables, it's just not good for u imo
2019-08-14 00:58
vegan diet does not only consist of vegetables.
2019-08-14 00:59
#120
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
I know, just didn't wanna type 'fruit, soy etc.'
2019-08-14 01:00
yeah vegan diet only consists of fruit, berries, soy, different kinds of farmable products and whatever the fucknot. might aswell call it grass right ?
2019-08-14 01:01
#128
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
I'm not vegan/vegetarian (just googled it, it's not the same thing lol) so why should I know it?
2019-08-14 01:04
you should not but im glad you are googling it. just stop making arguments that u say are facts unless you know what you are talking about.
2019-08-14 01:09
#138
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
aight let's just stop right there I said my position You have yours Have a nice day!
2019-08-14 01:11
#81
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
lmao wtf? Heart attack at age 25 when u heat 0 cholesterol and low saturated fat?
2019-08-14 00:42
#87
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
less protein, less vitamins, less hemoglobin - ez heart attack
2019-08-14 00:44
#93
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
U mean less iron? Well that's if u don't eat properly which can happen in any diet but if u eat right u wont get heart attack?
2019-08-14 00:45
#96
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
If u want to eat right then meat must be in your ration
2019-08-14 00:47
#99
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
okay tell me why meat MUST be in my diet
2019-08-14 00:48
#104
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
Protein mens))) No protein - no energy
2019-08-14 00:50
#106
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Alright just gonna stop right now since u know nothing. No protein no energy? Why the fuck do u even talk about nutrition when u know nothing.
2019-08-14 00:51
#109
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
I'm not an expert, but I just know that you can't eat only meat or only vegetsbles, it's just not good for u
2019-08-14 00:58
#118
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Alright u litteraly just said IMO but im not mad man sryy
2019-08-14 00:58
#121
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
Just my opinion that you have to eat both meat and fruit/vegetables Not forcing u to give up ur diet, it's up to you
2019-08-14 01:01
#124
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Yea it's your opinion and then u said it's just not good for u
2019-08-14 01:02
#125
Lox | 
Russia Tsarevich 
This opinion is based on some facts that you won't get enough protein and vitamins by not eating meat
2019-08-14 01:03
#126
Twistzz | 
Sweden Allis 
Well that opinion is false since u can lmao
2019-08-14 01:03
#187
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Lithuania Sedge 
How do you just magically KNOW, there are people who have been vegan 30+ years on this planet and are in better condition than you. Some are bodybuilders, powerlifters and strongmen... how could you possibly say that lmao
2019-08-14 02:36
#188
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Lithuania Sedge 
If never did my OWN research and took time to understand read studies and videos that actually use reliable facts I would be just like you because of my family and their culture, if I even mention a plant based diet infront of my grandmother for example, she would cry thinking I was commiting suicide. It's your culture, and it's the same for me... but you need to adapt and think for yourself, not listen to opinions-even if its your own family
2019-08-14 02:39
I love the taste of blood. cant really get it from any plant afaik
2019-08-14 00:36
Wtf men((
2019-08-14 00:42
#69
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Not gonna eat leaves after gym.
2019-08-14 00:40
no one asked you to. if you want some protein maybe check out some vegan protein powders, nuts, soy, lentils and so on.
2019-08-14 00:43
SOYBOYYYYYYY
2019-08-14 01:52
#348
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Nigeria Fraggot 
SOYBOY SPOTTED
2019-08-15 18:27
#189
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Lithuania Sedge 
xd
2019-08-14 02:40
#92
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Soy=cancer And the problem with vegan protein is that is lacks some nutrients so u have to eat a wide range of foods to balance all nutrients. So i rather cook those eggs at the morning and have some chicken later Edit :was meant as response to 83 wtf mr hltv
2019-08-14 00:46
dont worry they can take those nutriets from tablets and supplements which are all NaTuRaL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019-08-14 00:48
#191
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Lithuania Sedge 
eating eggs is the fastest way to get heart disease, and surely you know by now since it's actually become a well known fact. Some compare an egg to a cigarette and it is a reasonable comparison. I'm not vegan but if i ever eat eggs i seperate the egg yolks and limit them to 1 a week. I don't about you, but i've had like 8 eggs before and it genuinely becomes hard to breathe.. cholestoral kicks in instantly
2019-08-14 02:42
#253
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
XD XD XD
2019-08-14 09:22
#258
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Lithuania Sedge 
"In summary, vegetarians have consistently shown to have lower risks for cardiometabolic outcomes and some cancers across all three prospective cohorts of Adventists. Beyond meatless diets, further avoidance of eggs and dairy products may offer a mild additional benefit. Compared to lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets, vegan diets seem to provide some added protection against obesity, hypertension, type-2 diabetes; and cardiovascular mortality. In general, the protective effects of vegetarian diets are stronger in men than in women. At present, there are limited prospective data on vegetarian dietary patterns and body weight change, obesity and neurological disorders. Large dietary intervention trials on the effects of vegetarian diets on obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular outcomes are warranted to make meaningful recommendations for nutritional planning, assessment, and counseling." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139.. go check the conclusion on the studies, and then go find some more and keep reading. This isnt egg spesific but eggs are high in cholesteral, and contribute greatly to the conclusion.
2019-08-14 09:31
#259
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you think cholesterol is bad for you and compared eggs to cigarettes, you have no understanding of nutrition at all, not replying if you care enough about your health you can look at my bio
2019-08-14 09:34
#262
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Lithuania Sedge 
you understand the body makes it's own cholesterol in the liver? you don't need to eat eggs, meat or any of that shit to get more- it is fucking bad for you lmao, it clogs your arteries , leads to heart disease among other stuff- and what do cigarettes do? the tar does the same so how is it not a reasonable comparison? you don't have to reply to me, i don't care i literally linked you a health study, are you going to claim its wrong ?
2019-08-14 09:36
#263
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you couldnt tell me the difference between ldl and hdl and what they do without googling it right now, keep appealing to studies and authority, ive been eating 6 raw eggs for breakfast everday for the past 6 months, fuck hope i dont get heart disease :(
2019-08-14 09:42
#266
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Lithuania Sedge 
lmao the fact you ask me such a trivial and quite honestly, low tier question only tells me that it's you that is appealing to studies and authority.. you couldn't have thought of anything smarter to ask? with all those studies you 'read' im sure you could test me better. You keep drinking your raw eggs, frankly i don't care-its your life, just don't spread misinformation and propaganda... theres no need to go on a crusade.
2019-08-14 09:46
#267
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
show me a study that says cholesterol is bad
2019-08-14 09:47
#268
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Lithuania Sedge 
How about you disprove what I sent you, why do vegans and vegetarians have a lower percentage of getting almost every cancer, diabetes and developing cardiovascular diseases?
2019-08-14 09:49
#272
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
compared to people on standard diets ?(which is like 80% plant based/grains, 20% cooked low quality grain fed animal products) sure its healither because your comparing people with absolute garbage diets to health conscious vegans, your appeal to studies and authority is unreal every study you can link me that shows cholesterol is bad are ignoring the chronic inflammation in standard diets, oxidised cholesterol is a problem because of excess polyunsaturated fatty acids, fried food etc, cholestoral you get from raw high quality animal foods isnt a problem at all lol
2019-08-14 09:58
#273
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
No salmonela ma men?
2019-08-14 09:55
#275
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
nope
2019-08-14 09:58
#282
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Lucky I am pretty scared of it so i never encourage myself to eat em raw
2019-08-14 10:35
#264
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Lithuania Sedge 
I pressed like the first 10 , half of them are irrelevant... the studies don't even have a reliable methodology, some of them are randomised trials?
2019-08-14 09:42
#271
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Slovakia ypsylonnn 
Dont tell me u are serious, please.
2019-08-14 09:54
I have just visited the Danish National Food Institute's website and they have done several studies on eggs and link to different diseases. To sum up without to much explanation you are full of BS. In Denmark we have very high standards for conducting and publishing scientific studies, maybe you should stop taking advise from the old lady in the shed and instead read actual science..
2019-08-14 15:45
food.dtu.dk/english you can find it here....
2019-08-14 15:46
give me something to read from good sources. even i could make a youtube video of saying that water is bad.
2019-08-14 00:50
no matter how weird he is, he's a very good source since he is ex vegan and he almost died from it, nothing he says about veganism is a lie, he presents facts, watch his interviews with ex vegans too or if you just watched the compilation i linked you would see the facts yourself, government, trendy hip youtubers and celebrites telling you to eat soy and tofu is not a good source of why people should be vegan. besides most of vegans who say they eat plants cause they dont want to kill animals are just narcissists with egos feeling smug over others not realizing they are the biggest hypocrites since overwhelming majority of them is pro abortion, and their lifestyle of starbucks, expensive hippy clothing and iphones fund child labor in 3rd world countries.
2019-08-14 00:57
i dont see any links to any reputable sources.
2019-08-14 00:58
Now you’re just in denial
2019-08-14 01:53
like cnn ? lmao
2019-08-15 13:16
do it then
2019-08-14 02:28
#193
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Lithuania Sedge 
you link this guy, have you seen his videos? he will be dead in about 2 years from now. I know him quite well, and he never did his diet correctly , pretty sure he took it to extremes, he was a fruitarian aswell or some shit like that... which is a bad diet.
2019-08-14 02:44
#252
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
this guy saves lives, but there is no point arguing with vegans on this website im done with it they lack any understanding of nutrition and only appeal to authority, they think taking pills is healthy but eating animal foods isn't, mental illness
2019-08-14 09:19
I value my own good so as long as I'm not convinced vegan food is better/healthier than meat, I won't switch
2019-08-14 00:49
My argument for eating meat - its alpha Why i hate vegans - cuz they are sub human betas /close
2019-08-14 01:06
there is nothing inherently wrong with the use of animals for our own benefit
2019-08-14 01:09
#137
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
+1 we're on top of the food chain
2019-08-14 01:10
yes there is. we dont need to eat animals. there is everything inherently wrong to torture other species for our fun. our ancestors killed other animals for survival, they did not slowly bleed them to death to make the meat taste slightly better.
2019-08-14 01:12
The smartest beings tend to be carnivorous, it’s not a coincidence
2019-08-14 01:55
you do realise that slitting an animals throat instantly causes it to become braindamaged? the animal doesnt feel anything while its bleeding out
2019-08-15 19:04
#142
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
+10 This is our nature is stronger animals eat and control weaker animals through evolution we are now at the top. Remember once upon a time humans were hunted and killed by other animals.
2019-08-14 01:15
+1 we are the supreme specie on our planet
2019-08-15 13:16
#135
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
enjoy your daily dose of malnutrition
2019-08-14 01:09
except that vegans are not malnutriotioned unless they are too restricted. just like any other meat eater who are too restricted.
2019-08-14 01:18
#144
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
my aunt went vegan for 2 years and she shrunk down to a size of a stick. almost every vegan person I've met was skinny and fragile. there are exceptions tho. also meat eaters aren't restricted. we can eat anything from a full meat dish to a vegan dish, while vegans are stuck with 2 dicks in their hands and a fistful of grass on their plate.
2019-08-14 01:23
#194
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Lithuania Sedge 
did it ever occur to you that they were doing it wrong?
2019-08-14 02:44
#195
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
she didn't consume animal products. you can't go wrong in eating
2019-08-14 02:46
#197
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Lithuania Sedge 
no, you can... very easily go wrong with eating on a vegan diet. It's not as simple as eating some rice , beans and almond milk... you have to have done your research.
2019-08-14 02:47
#202
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
she did it correctly and she stll ended up skinny
2019-08-14 02:51
#204
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Lithuania Sedge 
be honest, how do you know she did it correctly? did she show you her entire diet plan for the two years? regardless, your story, it's ashame it happend but it is anecdotal therefore it's not really relevant or carry any factual weight... besides, she is your grandmother, naturally I'd assume she is old? are you sure there couldn't have been something else tipping her off
2019-08-14 02:53
#208
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
we were neighbours... and she is my aunt. if you can't even read correctly then don't argue stoopid...
2019-08-14 02:58
#211
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Lithuania Sedge 
A trivial mistake from my part, literally doesn't matter if shes your aunt, grandmother or mother- your story is purely anecdotal, it doesn't apply to every person in the world. It wasn't even an argument, it was me telling you some facts.
2019-08-14 02:58
#215
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
veganism works on paper, ofc in irl it doesn't. again all of the vegan people i met were skinny and weak
2019-08-14 03:02
#216
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Lithuania Sedge 
okay, so in the first sentence you said something, provided no reason or facts. Then in the second sentence you gave me some anecdotes on how you met skinny vegans? do you genuinely not get it? if I meet a black person whom I don't get along with, is it safe of me to assume every black person I meet is going to be the same? no... so why do the same here.
2019-08-14 03:05
#217
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
I've met about 30 vegans, almost everyone of them was weak. also with your calculated diet shit, I can make the same with meat. but will it be good? no it won't, just like veganism. face it we're omnivores, not plants
2019-08-14 03:07
#218
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Lithuania Sedge 
haha bro, you wanna know how many weak meateaters I've met? and actually, statistically I think you'll find on avarage vegans and vegetarians are in better physical condition- and that should say something, considering vegans are a minority. You essentially admitted that it's all about taste for you, that's all you have to say... "I eat meat, because I like the taste" you don't have to spread propaganda by saying it's un-healthy or that you'll be weak, it's factually not true. We're not living in the past, we're in the 21st centuary, it's possible to be a vegan with relative ease- it is better for you, better for the enviroment and it is more ethical and yeah, you're right... we're not plants.
2019-08-14 03:12
#219
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
have you seen a vegan that doesn't jerk off vegan forums? theyre like a leaf. i also like not damaging my brain. sorry, but its too late for you I guess :/ keep eating grass, gn
2019-08-14 03:15
#220
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Lithuania Sedge 
Spreading awareness for a good cause, that's not jerking it off... that's simply trying to help people. I'm afraid you already have brain damage, don't apolgise to me bro... you're the one that needs the sympathy. Also, not a vegan.
2019-08-14 03:17
Meat is not brain food to begin with brudda
2019-08-14 09:06
Proteins
2019-08-14 01:37
low carbs, high protein, tastes good
2019-08-14 01:41
I do respect but I don't get the point of being a vegetarian What's your reason refusing to eat meat? Because killing animals is cruel? But strictly speaking plants are also creatures , you will have to take the lives away for eating them, you are literally killing them too, so what is the difference?
2019-08-14 01:43
#196
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Lithuania Sedge 
the difference is that plants don't have a nervous system, so they are physiologically incapable of feeling pain or any emotion. They simply react to stimuli. Whereas animals , you can very clearly see are suffering, have emotion and have a will to live.
2019-08-14 02:48
I Just eat what people give to me , I dont fucking care. I Just dont want to be hungry.
2019-08-14 01:50
We have eaten meat for thousands of generations, then suddenly a bunch of people start eating salad and bitch about people who eat meat
2019-08-14 02:17
Fucking mentally ill people
2019-08-14 02:49
#201
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Lithuania Sedge 
The same way people used to rape women carelessly, rob and steal with no remorse- kill without a second thought, execute people for witchcraft and all sorts of shit... that was done for generations, but we moved on.
2019-08-14 02:50
Holy fuck you are retarded.
2019-08-14 02:55
Stop insulting people and actually counter what they're saying.
2019-08-14 02:59
#213
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Lithuania Sedge 
care to elaborate? because I know you're just shitting out of your mouth, acting like the all-knowing god when you're completetly uneducated on the matter and are infact a retard
2019-08-14 02:59
is this a thread for gays meat eater checking in
2019-08-14 02:29
I don't eat too much of meat because I enjoy other foods much more, but saying that meat doesn't have a taste just isn't true, the taste & texture makes it so good. I also don't dislike vegans who don't try to force their ideology onto other people, like I'm okay with you not eating animal products, but please just fucking calm down when you see another person eating an egg or a fucking burger.
2019-08-14 02:32
Argument about TO SURVIRE WE DONT NEED TO EAT MEAT it so lul. We dont need internet and computers to survive too. And internet is using big databases, which consume so much electricity. And electicity we recieve motsly from burning mineral resources like coal, but its very harmful for environment. If u carrying about our PLANET > go live in forest and stop spreading ur shitty ideas.
2019-08-14 02:42
But if he goes to forest, he wouldnt be contributing to the human race. Conclusion: Everything=bad for our planet Vegans=absolute shitters
2019-08-14 15:41
Just genuinely happy to see the amount of rational / logical people that seem to have embraced these topics even on hltv of all the forums to talk about this! a year ago this topic was just 99 autistic baiters vs 1 rational vegan, but now veganism is growing so fast it's even impacting hltv threads go vegan :) there's literally no justifiable reason not to!
2019-08-14 02:48
Such an ironically stupid comment that i literally wont go on.
2019-08-14 02:49
#209
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Lithuania Sedge 
nothing ironic or stupid about that.
2019-08-14 02:55
Yeah don't worry he must be baiting xD his reply didnt actually contain any content
2019-08-14 04:45
#232
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Lithuania Sedge 
hes not baiting, he is just stupid.
2019-08-14 04:46
Holy shit really? Imagine having to explain to a fellow human why we fucking eat meat? Imagine that! How stupid have people become? Its utterly insane. Jeeeeeezuz we need another war to set things straight.
2019-08-14 02:51
But isn't it healthier to become vegetarian?
2019-08-14 02:53
#206
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Lithuania Sedge 
explain it, go on
2019-08-14 02:54
I don't think it's cruel to eat eggs, for example, or at least not nearly as much as it is to keep cows in a slaughterhouse with awful conditions, so why don't they become vegetarians and feast on delicious eggs? I offer eggs to people in trying times. Or a pescetarian, since fish is the healthiest meat.
2019-08-14 02:58
#214
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Lithuania Sedge 
I'd be more concerned with the ill effects eggs have on your body, morally speaking, unfertilised eggs are fine to eat but they are incredibly unhealthy. Some compare eating an egg to smoking a cigarrete, and it is a reasonable comparison.
2019-08-14 03:02
#248
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
did you read that in a magazine?
2019-08-14 09:15
#283
Aleksib | 
Finland MoRst 
They are healthy if you dont eat like 10 in a day. They have lots of great vitamins and are low on calories. Only thing is that they have reasonably high cholesterol.
2019-08-14 10:36
Cuz man must be strong and hard dick.
2019-08-14 03:20
1. it tastes good, it's good for health, vegan isn't only meat, i don't care about vegetarians but vegans are crazy, they won't even eat an egg, or drink milk 2. i hate them cuz they think they're smarter than u cuz it's "good for the environment" but they're gonna have health issues and they're dumb cuz maybe it's cruel to eat meats, killing animals to eat etc. but eating an egg or drinking milk is not cruel, ofc it's cruel to do it by "not cool 😎" ways but if it's in a farm, and they treat the animals good, i don't know why they still crying
2019-08-14 03:45
I would like to watch those meat eaters getting slaughtered for thier meat.
2019-08-14 04:51
#234
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Russia GutturalSlug 
I dont really think about it much, I just eat it sometimes when I got nothing else for lunch. That aggressive veganism phase is in the past for me, so I eat various food now
2019-08-14 04:52
Plants don't have: Vitamins: A, B6 (pyridoxal. pyridoxamine), B12, D, F, K2 Amino acids: Creatine, Carnitine, Carnosine, Taurine Heme-iron, CoQ10, CLA Here are some basics on vegetarians: psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/.. Here are their problems as to why they usually quit: Vegans are deficit in b12: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaneurology/f.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16219987 High fiber diets reduce serum half life of vitamin D3: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6299329 Vegans have weaker bones due to lower calcium intake and vitamin D3 levels: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmed.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21092700 Vegans have a worse memory compared to non vegans due to creatine deficiency in vegans: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21118604 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14561278 Vegans have less gains compared to non vegans: m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/6/1032.f.. Vegans are deficient in omega threes: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16087975 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16188209 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323090 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12323085 Vegans are deficit in carnitine: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21753065 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2756917 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1628441.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11043928 Vegans are deficient in taurine: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3354491 Vegans are deficient in iodine: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12748410 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613354 Vegans are deficient in Coenzyme Q10: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16873950 Vegans are deficient in iron due to the fact that iron from plant sources is less bioavailable than iron from meat sources: ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Iron-HealthPro.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11269606 Vegans are deficient in vitamin A: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19103647 m.jn.nutrition.org/content/137/11/2346.f.. healthybabycode.com/why-you-cant-get-vit.. (studies linked in the article) sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/11/091118.. researchnews.osu.edu/archive/betacaroten.. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/71/6/1545.ful.. fasebj.org/content/23/4/1041.full thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/beta-caroten.. empoweredsustenance.com/true-vitamin-a-f.. westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-n.. westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-n.. philmaffetone.com/vitamin-a-and-the-beta.. Calcium in Rats ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3183773 Magnesium and Oxalates ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15035687 Vegans have a lower sperm count than non vegans: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705.. Vegans have lower testosterone than non vegans: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1435181 m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127.ab.. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/159772 m.jap.physiology.org/content/82/1/49 Veganism causes loss of libido and erectile dysfunction: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21353476 Children who are raised on strict vegan diets do not grow normally: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/4067152 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8005079 Children develop rickets after prolonged periods of strict vegetarian diets: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1874810.. "There are some links between vegetarians and lower birthweight and earlier labour" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7788369 Effects of vitamin B12 and folate deficiency on brain development in children: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3137939.. "Particular attention should be paid to adequate protein intake and sources of essential fatty acids, iron, zinc, calcium, and vitamins B12 and D. Supplementation may be required in cases of strict vegetarian diets with no intake of any animal products." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2912628.. These next five are case studies: Cerebral atrophy in a vitamin B12-deficient infant of a vegetarian mother: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25076673 Severe megaloblastic anemia in child breast fed by a vegetarian mother: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8442642 Consequences of exclusive breast-feeding in vegan mother newborn - case report: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19748244 Nutritional vitamin B12 deficiency in a breast-fed infant of a vegan-diet mother: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3948463 "We report the case of a 7 month-old girl that presented with acute anemia, generalized muscular hypotonia and failure to thrive. Laboratory evaluation revealed cobalamin deficiency, due to a vegan diet of the mother." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18293883 Most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that 68% of vegetarians and 83% of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 5% of omnivores. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12816782 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10966896 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10552882 On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products), but is much lower in vegans, who are often deficient. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21139125 ajcn.nutrition.org/content/70/3/543s.ful.. Vegetarians and omnivores have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24871479 Fruits and Vegetables ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12064344 This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency. Moreover, although vegetarians often have similar iron intakes to omnivores on paper, it is more common for vegetarians (and particularly vegans) to be iron deficient. For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40% of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14988640 ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.lon.. many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35% compared with omniovorous diet. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.lon.. Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50% more zinc than omnivores for this reason. ajcn.nutrition.org/content/78/3/633S.lon.. The Naive Vegetarian second-opinions.co.uk/vegetarian.html#.W.. Soy decreases your testosterone ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15735098 ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/articles/10798211/ Why you need dietary cholesterol: Very great total picture kind of lecture: youtube.com/watch?v=uc1XsO3mxX8 Eating meat increases testosterone ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11103227 Saturated Fat Finally Vindicated in Long Buried Study articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/arch.. Medium Chain Triglyceride Oil Consumption as Part of a Weight Loss Diet Does Not Lead to an Adverse Metabolic Profile When Compared to Olive Oil ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2874191.. Why you need cholesterol for testosterone livestrong.com/article/435773-cholestero.. Saturated Fat m.ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2010/.. journals.co-action.net/index.php/fnr/art.. Humans evolved a specific hunting mechanism recently nature.com/news/baseball-players-reveal-.. phys.org/news/2013-06-chimps-humans-base.. youtube.com/watch?v=1y__4xX8xp8 Very wide and diverse amounts of similar research and current scientific consensus (look at the links at the bottom) examine.com/nutrition/will-eating-eggs-i.. Exercise lowers cholesterol ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2297284 webmd.com/cholesterol-management/feature.. Europeans can probably digest fat better than other races nap.edu/read/11537/chapter/13 (also a generic good read on dietary cholesterol and dieting) archive.is/HD6UZ youtube.com/watch?v=yRELldIuZyM sciencemag.org/news/2014/04/did-european.. Giant read through summarizing dietary protein catalystathletics.com/articles/downloads..
2019-08-14 05:01
Thank you... you saved me a lot of time you are the hero I have been waiting. Now kiss me.
2019-08-14 09:14
many of ur links are cut off
2019-08-14 09:22
Dude.. yes i did not open all of ur links but.. many of those say "maybe deficient", dont lead me anywhere or are tests of like fucking 2 people. how am i supposed to take those seriously ? also supplementing is a thing. most of the meat eaters supplement.
2019-08-17 01:14
you got rekt
2019-08-18 22:44
i can link you 100 links that 90% are full of shit. have fun looking for the ones that are real. just stupid to post bunch of link he propably didnt even read and dont even open in to an argument.
2019-08-18 22:46
If you don't eat meat you're probably a loser and definitely gay, vegetables are for women and homosexuals, meat is for mens))))). I eat only steak, chops, sausages, chicken, and fish for every meal.
2019-08-14 05:05
i dont think you can make fläsk karé without pork so i would stay a carnivore
2019-08-14 05:06
tastes good and im fOOOOkin hongry mate that fkin grass thing aint feeding me enough
2019-08-14 05:07
that grass joke is as old as your father most likely. vegans can eat alot of different foods.
2019-08-17 02:32
How can people take this bait serious................................................ yeha no shit ithought they really ate grass man wtf ???
2019-08-17 02:33
I am a bodybuilder, so how am I to consume a lot of protein daily without eating meat? I am also lazy and don't cook so I won't spend hours trying to figure out how I am to get alot of protein in my diet from only vegetarian sources
2019-08-14 05:16
There's a lot of vegan and vegetarian bodybuilders out there, so if someone is open to the idea it's definitely possible.
2019-08-14 09:24
All these vegan "bodybuilders" you see on youtube are on steroids....
2019-08-14 11:16
Doubt you know what "all" vegan bodybuilders are taking. Don't really care about your opinion, more interested in facts.
2019-08-14 11:19
i mean if you know anything about bodybuilding you'll be able to tell that they are on steroids
2019-08-15 12:26
Saying that literally every bodybuilder that's either vegan or vegetarian is taking steroids is plain stupid
2019-08-15 18:20
#240
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United States LaDaDee 
I'm not a little prick who is going to be a pain in my parents ass by "going vegan" Also I would never go vegan because eggs are amazing for protein
2019-08-14 06:00
#249
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Ukraine Edddddd 
"What is your argument to keep eating meat?" The same argument as to keep eating any other kind of eat, lul
2019-08-14 09:16
libtards xddddd
2019-08-14 09:18
I love meat, that's it. Besides, I live on Argentina. People here eats meat pretty much everyday, vegans are completely fucked on this country.
2019-08-14 09:31
#257
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Turkey tastemycobra 
Vegan life is expensive as fuck. Meat has many good quality nutrients. it costs way too much to get the same quality nutrients by vegan lifestyle. And even if you have money, they are not available everywhere. Homo sapiens has consumed meat since its earliest days. Today's actual problem is over consumption of meat. Our every meal is meat based. We dont need that much meat. And i doubt if veganism can solve this problem. It feels like vegans just create hate as they are so eager to implement their lifestyle, plus looks like they divert some scientific truth to fit their agenda, which makes veganism an ideology and not true knowledge.
2019-08-14 09:29
I dont need an argument lol, if I like it I am gonna keep doing it.
2019-08-14 09:34
Vegans gay /closed
2019-08-14 09:36
I have nothing against vegetarians, but I don't like vegans Meat is good for us, but not too much The reason I don't like vegans is because they say that it's torture for the cows when we milk them, sheep when we cut their wool, etc. But it's torture if we don't do that
2019-08-14 09:52
Yeah like literally when you eat a bio egg too, raised in open air. What the fuck is the harm done?
2019-08-14 10:32
Yeeees, cause the cows needs to be milked right? Like we humans NEED to do it or else they will be in pain? 😂😂
2019-08-14 10:38
Yes, the cows need to be milked
2019-08-14 10:58
Dont want to be mean to you. But statements like that is just beyond dumb. Shows how little you know about the subject, but still you comment about it like you know what you are talking about. Something VERY many people do. But yes, the cow needs to be milked if she had a calf. But not by HUMANS. The milk is not intended for humas. "The exact number of adults with lactose intolerance is unknown.[7] One estimate puts the average at 65% of the global population." Only reason why cow milk are so common in the west is cause we have developed lactose tolerance over many years of drinking milk. peta2.com/news/why-cows-produce-milk/
2019-08-14 11:11
It tastes goof
2019-08-14 10:16
#286
Aleksib | 
Finland MoRst 
It is easier to be healthy when you eat meat
2019-08-14 10:38
Can all the vegans post how tall they are, how tall their parents are, and since when are they vegans?
2019-08-14 10:42
alright FUCK THIS, im sick and tierd of all the fucking meat panic lately, Im about to go full RAW carnivore, I dont give a fuck. Check out Frank Tufano, Sv3rige (ignore his flat earth videos), and Asra Conlu on youtube.
2019-08-14 11:05
Unexpected from HLTV
2019-08-14 11:10
To piss off vegans Seems to be going well
2019-08-14 11:15
It tastes good
2019-08-14 11:19
There's nothing wrong with eating locally produced meat. My country has one of the lowest Co2 emissions in the world, so why not? And it's really good ofc
2019-08-14 12:46
Our ancestors didn't had spears and bows to hunt vegetables, just saying
2019-08-14 13:12
#305
Xyp9x | 
Greece Graecos 
Meat is mandatory for health. I don't hate vegans, I just find ridiculous to be an extreme vegan for ecologic purpose and eating advocate, quinoa and those kinds of products that can't be produced in Europe.
2019-08-14 15:23
and what is your argument for caring what other people eat?
2019-08-14 15:33
Your cells and your immune system needs protein to reproduce and to protect you from all illnesses. Chicken breast, fish filé all that good stuff. An american football player became vegan and after 1 year had to retire because he couldnt take the beating anymore without protein and meat intake.
2019-08-14 15:51
#322
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Estonia Nap0le0n 
Because meat is tasty and not as expensive as soybean meat.
2019-08-15 11:48
I don't eat meat. Meat is for pussies.
2019-08-15 11:51
1. Its delicious and a balanced diet is best diet 2. 96% of vegans are self important snowflakes that cant shut up about how great they are and feel some kind of vegetable fueled need to push their beliefs in everyones faces. as for the rest i dont care, more meat for me
2019-08-15 12:00
What is your argument to keep eating meat ? also if you are one of those who hate vegans, what is your argument to hate them ? (hating extremist vegans is nothing new, even vegans hate extremist vegans.) They one and only argument needed to win this is that if we all stoped in one day 50% of the population will die
2019-08-15 12:10
Just invite any common vegan to jogging and he will die after 1.5km I have a classmate who don't eat meat and she soooo fuckimg skinny, she doesn't even have boobs and ass in.her 17. Also she have mental issues. I don't hate vegans, but I really get angry when they say that eating meat is bad. Why u fuckimg care what others eat?
2019-08-15 12:19
haha im not vegan but vegan have more energy than meat eaters. cuz most energy comes from carbs and not protein and vegan have too many carbs. so cmon dont speak shit. ur endurance is 100 times better on vegan diet, i can asure u.
2019-08-15 14:57
Yea, proven facts from many years of researching. Maybe jogging isn't good example, but muscles don't grow fast without.protein
2019-08-15 15:17
ehm 100g of sunflower seeds already give u same protein like 100g beef :o where is problem?
2019-08-15 15:26
#343
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Sweden RaketHopp 
press X to doubt
2019-08-15 15:18
What is your argument to not keep eating meat?
2019-08-15 12:22
animal agriculture destroys environemnt, sentient beings are tortured, vegans can get every nutritent and micronutrient meat eaters can through decent diet and supplements.
2019-08-17 02:52
right, but I know that individiual effort is futile and nothing will change until a globalized, organized effort is made, so I will keep eating meat.
2019-08-17 09:26
i mean why not? i don't really give a fuck if 1 or a billion cows die. and humans are omnivores a balanced diet between meat and plants is the best type of diet.
2019-08-15 12:31
mens eaters
2019-08-15 13:13
#341
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Finland gymgoer 
there's a lot of protein in meat so i eat whatever to get em gains
2019-08-15 14:58
Plants cannot express pain
2019-08-15 15:21
#352
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United States XEROcs_ 
alpha male protein
2019-08-15 19:05
It tastes really good if you cook it right, and it's also an easy way to get my protein in.
2019-08-17 00:40
vegan options taste really good aswell if you cook and spice them well. also getting problem is not a problem in vegan diet contrary to popular belief.
2019-08-17 00:49
Because seeds weren't designed to be eaten by nature. Almost. Meat is in general more healthy to consume on daily basis. Seeds produce toxins that can affect your mental/physical health.
2019-08-17 00:51
Lol what ? seeds arent the only food vegans can eat. not even a major part of it. do you have any sources to share with us to back ur arguments ?
2019-08-17 01:07
check my first thread
2019-08-17 01:08
just link ur shit here im not going around ur old thread. we are in my thread right now.
2019-08-17 01:09
If I link it it will need approve from mods. Seeds: Why most people are mentally ill on youtube
2019-08-17 01:11
so you were able to post that on ur older thread but now u somehow gonna get banned ? right. if u got the "mod approval" on ur older thread why would it be bannable here. cya.
2019-08-17 01:21
its not fucking bannable, I just can't post any sort of links in replies lmfao
2019-08-17 01:26
yes you can. you get banned if people report it. you just dont have any links to post.
2019-08-17 01:28
#360
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Venezuela Playcalixto 
I Guess you have never experience the spanish jam
2019-08-17 00:53
guess not because i have no idea what that is.
2019-08-17 01:07
i cant read that full article. but before it cut off they said cattle can derive 100% off of grass as nutrition but that still doesnt mean they dont spend most of that grass to something else than the meat we can cut off from their lifeless bodies. its still inefficient compared to most of vegan options.
2019-08-17 01:17
No lie, I didn't read it either, it's just not interesting to me. I just remembered the title and linked it. I eat meat because it's nice and I don't care about people telling me otherwise.
2019-08-17 02:00
so dont bother with that when you have no clue what you are posting.
2019-08-17 02:04
Apparently you don't take your words of wisdom for yourself considering you didn't even read the article, you read 2-3 paragraphs before it cut off. Funny guy.
2019-08-17 02:18
because thats all i got to read. and i didnt even believe what those 2-3 paragraphs said, i argued against it. i just said what i know about what i could read. obviously the article has more information to it but i just commented on what i could see. you are just trying to make shit out of nothing.
2019-08-17 02:29
So you argued against an incomplete argument, lit.
2019-08-17 12:26
Jesus dude you are just stirring shit at this point. Admit it you were wrong and move on. You post a article that you didnt even read and then start attacking me. Actually pathetic.
2019-08-17 14:28
#367
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Denmark U w0t m8? 
Because it tastes good, and I have vegans because they make stupid threads like this
2019-08-17 01:13
I dont hate vegans or animals or anything, i just love that good grilled beef on friday night. Im gonna keep eating meat cuz i love it. I dont eat meat TOO much, just when i want it c:
2019-08-17 01:16
yes but so many people have that mentality = alot of meat consumed. its like someone thinking "i dont change much alone if i take a long shower". if people quit having that mentality alot would change.
2019-08-17 01:19
tastes good
2019-08-17 01:30
#388
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Tastes good Cheap compared with a veggie meat Easy to make
2019-08-17 01:34
only when spiced up, vegan foods taste good aswell when spiced correctly actually meat is expensive as fuck you can get more vegan food with same money vegan food is not fucking rocket sience just try it once. its not hard. just like making normal food without meat.
2019-08-17 01:38
#393
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
I've been to two vegan restaurants and the meat there wasnt as good so you either have to find really good reataurants, or its not as good. And no regular meat is not more expensive than vegan ones atleast in the shops in uk and lithuania Edit: Oh and i once accidently bought vegan raviolly which was actually disgusting the meat felt like someone already chewed the meat for me So now i dont risk it anymore
2019-08-17 01:46
"extremist vegans" - buddy being a vegas is being extremist. It means you're not eating ANYTHING that comes from an animal. Vegetarians can / if they want still eat dairy type stuff. Why do I eat meat? It's tastes good, it's part of a healthy diet and it's contents help me recover faster from a tough workout. Also it's pretty easy to prepare
2019-08-17 01:40
Let me tell you what the term "extremist vegan" means first. extremist vegans are those who go out of their way to yell at people on the street for wearing leather, telling people they are inferior for eating meat, and just generally being agressive and hostile about it. (my post is mostly about arguing about the matter and making it heard. im not hostile against people.) i have talked about the taste too often in this thread to adress. you can be healthy on vegan diet aswell and the cooking part, vegan foods are just as easy but just without the meat. just cooking.
2019-08-17 01:44
Oh you mean retards? OOOooooohhhhhhhhh I understand. Also yes you can be healthy on a vegan diet (probably) - but it's harder. Why go against your biology to eat a certain way? I'm not gonna go out of my way to start eating a certain way because people tell me to. I'm not gonna go out of my way to start eating a certain way because I want to be precious and unique. I want to eat the things my body desires and I will eat those things in the most pleasurable way possible. Which means it has to be 1. easy to make 2. taste nice 3. have good lasting healthy effect on my body. The only reason I'd EVER consider going vegetarian or vegan is because it may be better for the environment - but that subject is way too polarizing right now and there isn't a clear answer on whether or not it is or isn't.
2019-08-17 01:53
" 1. easy to make 2. taste nice 3. have good lasting healthy effect on my body." vegan dishes are easy to make they just dont have meat. they taste nice when you just bother looking at how to spice them. vegan options has less bad cholestherol and have most of the nutrients + supplements and you have good diet for life and your body. the vegan subject has been studied many times and its not that polarizing. check the documentary Earthlings.
2019-08-17 01:57
you're being one of those retards that you described on your previous reply. I hope you realize that. Btw not saying that you ARE, but you're acting like one. <- yes that's ban protection.
2019-08-17 02:00
honestly i have no idea what you mean by me being one of those "retards". atleast give me arguments instead of ban protections.
2019-08-17 02:03
0/8
2019-08-17 02:06
that is a great argument. i am totally convinced.
2019-08-17 02:08
What fucking argument do you want? What am I arguing? This is a one sided affair my dude. It's YOU trying to convince ME. You're being an evangelist while I'm just chillin with my man's Thor and Odin my dude. you're an extremist vegan my guy.
2019-08-17 02:10
reread #409, #410 and #411. you were calling me one of those r words but never specified why. all i wanted to know why. you just kept answering with nothing related to what i was talking about.
2019-08-17 02:13
ok so you're illiterate or just bad at English. You specified what "extremist vegans" are, I referred to them as retards. I just didn't realize you were being serious in #413 - I thought you would've been more intelligent. But then again you thought we were arguing as well. Which we're not. You're still an evangelist - I'm still a barbarian praying to Odin and Thor. You go on back to Rome and back to your churches and pray to your own god. Stop trying to make people go vegan. You do you, let people do what people do. EDIT: I wrote this while watching blackmirror so idk exactly what I typed but I think it's right too lazy to correct
2019-08-17 02:18
"You specified what "extremist vegans" are, I referred to them as retards." And i asked why am i a r word but you never responded with actual answer. "you're being one of those retards that you described on your previous reply." (one of the previous replies) how am i being "extremist vegans are those who go out of their way to yell at people on the street for wearing leather, telling people they are inferior for eating meat, and just generally being agressive and hostile about it". i dont yell at people wearing leather, i dont say you are inferior for eating meat and im not being agressive or hostile. im just simply arguing with you and you dont argue back. you are just baiting at this point. got it.
2019-08-17 02:25
hoho, oldest trick in the book. turning the "nice b8" upside down and pulling a 180. Nice 1 2/8 still below average but hey, we can't all be 8/8s
2019-08-17 03:14
still havent responded to my actual question.
2019-08-17 03:14
I literally answered your question in #425 but as I suggested in said reply - you apparently are actually illiterate / really fucking bad at English. Fucking hell I hate being b8ed - but keep replying. WHat's wrong with me.
2019-08-17 03:16
Meat is good for me. But I like some beans and other veggies, it’s fine. Eat what you like and what makes you healthy, but don’t be crazy to the ideology point about it. What comes inside a mans mouth does not make him unclean. But what comes out of mans mouth makes him unclean, as these are words and thoughts that come out of his heart. (Jesus said sth along the lines)
2019-08-17 01:43
If we didn't eat meat we animals would have no point. People would not feed them and most of them would die. Even if all animals survived in 30 years planet would be flooded with animals
2019-08-17 01:43
You are not eating cheetahs or orangutangs. the meat we are eating is mass producted by us. if we let them live by themselves the nature come up with balance when other animals hunt others. there would not be so ridicilous number of pigs, cows, chickens and whatnot if we didnt mass farm them.
2019-08-17 01:50
So why let other animals hunt them if we can eat them? That's just braindead thinking. God made animals for people to survive. If there were no animals 1000y ago people wouldn't have anything to eat to survive. Turn your brain on if u have it.
2019-08-17 01:52
#399
shroud | 
United States HowToK 
are you trying to convert people
2019-08-17 01:47
im trying to make people take a thought on it and read about it. i have no power to convert someone, i can only make someone look into it.
2019-08-17 01:48
my argument is I love the taste of blood. cant really get it from any plant afaik
2019-08-17 01:51
yes he is
2019-08-17 03:16
Tastes fn good
2019-08-17 01:47
#402
Xyp9x | 
Czech Republic Puget1 
it makes my boyfriend feel good
2019-08-17 01:49
I eat because I want to eat it. It tastes good and its a good and balanced diet
2019-08-17 01:49
what do you think about animal agriculture having super bad effect on our environment ? 1 cheese burger taking 2000litres of fresh drinking water to produce ? let alone the unnecessary torture of animals. on mass farms animals are being held legs up and bled slowly from throat to make the meat "have better texture".
2019-08-17 01:53
"mass farms" and yet I can't find it with simple google terms. Nice of you to mention that they are being stunned beforehand btw - so they don't feel anything prior to being slaughtered and prepared for consumption. twitter.com/TweetofTriumph/status/103362..
2019-08-17 03:23
another easy bait thread on HLTV
2019-08-17 01:51
taste good
2019-08-17 02:10
read some of the thread maybe
2019-08-17 02:11
i need my proteins men))
2019-08-17 03:11
then eat some soy, lentils, beans, nuts or whatever the fuck not... or just drink some vegan protein drinks if you need that absurd 300g of proteins a day.
2019-08-17 03:14
tbh i could if i wanted to because im not that much of a picky eater buy my family keeps bitching me to eat chicken and meat to grow muscle and taller
2019-08-17 03:17
cause i still can choose what i eat, so stfu noone cares about your opinion about our lifes.
2019-08-17 02:11
big juice dat y
2019-08-17 02:34
I just like the taste of blood
2019-08-17 03:23
I like it.
2019-08-17 03:28
thanks. im gonna tell that to the environment and the animals that gets hanged legs up and slowly bled for ur steak to have perfect texture.
2019-08-17 03:29
me eating meat is not bad for the environment but yeah say hi to the animals that get killed for my meat :)
2019-08-17 03:30
maybe not you alone but because people have the same mindset as you, it is bad.
2019-08-17 03:31
Although I agree that was as a society eat TOO much meat, i would disagree that eating meat in general is bad for you.
2019-08-17 03:32
Meat has way more bad cholestherol than vegan options (worse for ur health) as a society eating meat supports animal aggriculture that destroys environment.
2019-08-17 03:35
It's not bad cholesterol, its bad when you get to much of it. your body actually uses it, even the ''bad'' fats and cholesterol
2019-08-17 04:15
#454
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Sweden Hauta 
Hello Mr. Vegan. I don't eat meat, but i do eat stuff like eggs, and drink milk and such. That would make me a vegetarian. The first reason i swore off meat was the misstreatment of animals, but i learned more about it, we don't treat them like shit in sweden. Why im still choosing to not eat meat is because of the flavor, i might be the only person in the world that doesn't like the flavor of meat, any vegetarian/vegan option is better in taste, eating a more balanced diet is also not that hard. Being on a vegetarian diet forces you to cook way more, or eat a lot of shitty stuff (which you don't want to) which in turns leads to less overeating and more healthy stuff.
2019-08-17 03:43
imagine being a malnourished twig in 2k19 almost 2k10 lmfa000000
2019-08-17 03:48
#485
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Norway k3ron 
I smiled for some reason
2019-08-17 10:02
I choose to eat meat rather than be vegan because in order to be a healthy vegan you have to carefully plan your diet, but in order to be healthy as a meat eater you just have to avoid obvious junk food.
2019-08-17 03:57
#473
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Turkey AlwaysL1fe 
need meat for gainz
2019-08-17 09:30
In 1st world countries, vegetarians and vegans have the moral high ground, but meat products are just so damn tasty.
2019-08-17 09:36
No they don't
2019-08-17 09:47
Absolutely they do. The pain and suffering on animals that you support by buying the products could extremely easily be avoided by just not buying those products. You literally have vegetarian and vegan stores now. If it was the stone age and we would have serious problems surviving and we need to get everything we could get our hands on, they wouldnt have the moral high ground (hence the 1st world country distinction), because it would be perfectly understandable to kill animals if we otherwise die. But this is nowhere close to 1st world situation today. As such, you/we meat eaters unnecessarily support/create suffering that we could easily avoid considering the wealth of vegetarian supply around us.
2019-08-17 09:52
99% of the people that think like that have little to no interaction with animals and base all their experience from house pets and cute youtube videos. The fact to the matter is that most animals, especially the ones we eat, are literal shit eating assholes that if the roles were reversed wouldn't hesitate to eat you. Lmao they wouldn't even ever consider not eating you. They shit up the place, food and drink no matter if you clean everyday, they bully the weakest until it dies, they kill each others' children out of competition. If you're talking about the suffering caused by the food industry, I agree with you, it's done by sick people and should be regulated properly. Not that you'd give a shit if you interacted with animals, but we should be better than that. Besides this, you have zero suffering as you can kill the animal in a moment without any pain.
2019-08-17 10:02
Umm, no I know that and I know that nature is cruel. However I also know that the animals that we eat for meat have a neuronal system that is EASILY advanced enough to allow them to feel extreme suffering and pain. I would have almost no problem eating meat from "happy cows" that were killed painlessly or at least extremely quickly. I dont even think your first paragraph particularly adresses my comment at all, its kinda besides the point. So your second paragraph is whats more relevant to me. And there we generally agree, so dont know what the question even is at this point.
2019-08-17 10:07
The first paragraph is just some perspective that most people lack these days and how ridiculous this whole thing can seem to other people.
2019-08-17 10:14
cows arent hostile animals btw. also even tho we are animals, we are the most evolved animals. we dont need to slaughter other animals for nutrients or anything else, we can get that from other sources. also even if we killed the mass produced animals painlessly, they still contribute heavily on the environmental problems before they die.
2019-08-18 22:24
A bunch of sentimental bullshit from someone so sheltered they can't even butcher a cow.
2019-08-19 00:32
I would ask different question. Whats the reason of being vegan exept alergy? Vegans eat dog shit if you want, i will still enjoy my steak...
2019-08-17 09:42
The reason i would hate vegans is if they brag to the whole damn world about how special they are because they dont eat meat. like nobody gives a fuck yea be whatever you want but if you think you are any more special then you dont belong here
2019-08-17 09:55
the extremists of everything always make bad name for the movement if it is for a good cause. the extremists are always going to bring bad name to the movement. just dont let the extremists get to you and do your own research.
2019-08-18 22:18
Because why the fuck not? The bible says God created the animals for us
2019-08-17 09:57
Meat eating is a trait inherited from our ancestors who were not developed enough and were mostly like other animals, hunting and eating animals. When human really became human with big brain and all, they learned agriculture. Buddhist and hindu cultures don't eat meat not only because of animal cruelty but because they understand the larger impact on environment and they understand what being a human means. Their outlook is much more scientific and based on peaceful co-existence unlike most abrahamic faiths whose thought process is limited to materialism and how better they can exploit everything for their own good. People justify meat eating by saying that it's natural given animals also eat other animals. So you are basically accepting you haven't evolved from being just an animal. What defines a humans is that they have morality and value system unlike animals whose only purpose in life is to act as per their instincts, like you can kill and eat anything because you like it's taste regardless of it's sufferings.
2019-08-17 10:00
#482
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Norway k3ron 
Sorry I'm DreamEaters mens))))
2019-08-17 10:01
#492
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Russia Ilyichee 
men)))
2019-08-17 10:19
#493
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Norway k3ron 
Yes mens?))))
2019-08-17 10:19
#484
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Bosnia and Herzegovina coldCerq 
I beat my meat while eating a big steak.
2019-08-17 10:02
#488
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Korea XigNw0w 
Protein Has a lot of Iron Bioavailable nutrition, iron and zinc for example Helps to gain muscles and strength overall. Bone strength Zinc immunity Blood sugar control Heart health Includes a lot of Selenium Tastes good Eating meat helps to get a stronger immunity system. Better digestion Increased energy There are so many reasons to eat meat and so many benefits, why wouldn't I eat it?
2019-08-17 10:09
Lmao better not check the korean doctor then
2019-08-18 23:12
+1
2019-08-18 23:13
I've replaced a lot of my daily meat/steaks with veggie meat now. It tastes really good and I wasnt aware of this before. However, sometimes 1 or 2 times in the week I like some Durum doner or something, but I almost never buy any meat anymore in the supermarkets.
2019-08-17 10:11
just cutting meat consumption is already respectable. only extremist vegans expect everyone to go full vegan straight away. im just happy when people cut their meat consumption and thinks about this subject and make some research. kudos man.
2019-08-18 22:15
I want to eat meat and I can eat it and be healty
2019-08-17 10:13
you can also eat vegan options and be healthy ? you can also learn to spice foods correctly to make you want to eat it.
2019-08-18 22:13
I'm an animal, a hunter, I consume meat to keep my mannish power strong and to enjoy the feast after a long hunt. It's satisfying.
2019-08-17 11:05
Dreameaters 0-3
2019-08-17 11:08
#503
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Denmark OscarGF 
Solution for all of you. Start investing in the science of growing meat from stem cells.
2019-08-17 11:29
#507
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
because apples have feelings too
2019-08-17 12:21
It's so braindead to care what another unrelated person eats
2019-08-17 12:38
do you think its also "braindead" to think about who other people vote for ? is it fine for you that some1 votes for someone who you despise ? diets nowadays has a effect on a GLOBAL SCALE. it doesnt only touch the life of the individuals. it touches the lives of everyone.
2019-08-18 22:12
#518
Rickeh | 
United Kingdom Johal 
i like it
2019-08-17 22:50
I tried not eating meat for a month, and it was honstly fine. Did end up going back with a heavy reduction though as meat adds to a dish like few replacements can. It soaks up flavours and spices like nothing else. Not cutting, but reducing the inntake significantly highlights the difference
2019-08-18 22:04
even just reducing meat consumption is great. glad you noticed the difference. out of the individual differences there is also global changes. thanks.
2019-08-18 22:06
dead animals taste great and are healthy :)
2019-08-18 22:07
weak b8
2019-08-18 22:27
Eating it to get muscles and im happy that u are vegan cause more meat for me lol.
2019-08-18 22:28
meat doesnt build your muscles, protein does.
2019-08-18 22:29
And it is in meat.
2019-08-18 22:29
it also is in lentils, nuts, beans, soy, tofu... and if u really want to crank ur protein up there is also vegan protein powders for ur shakes.
2019-08-18 22:30
nt better to eatchicken and rice. 😎😎😎
2019-08-18 22:31
facts = nt. alright.
2019-08-18 22:32
no reason not to?
2019-08-18 22:33
environmental reason, torturing animals ? no ?
2019-08-18 22:34
its fine bro i have local community and they make good care of their animals
2019-08-18 22:34
like the mass producters say about their animals. i bet they are all just fine and killed humanely.
2019-08-18 22:35
yeah but i trust them?
2019-08-18 22:37
i trusted alot of people and was stabbed in the back.
2019-08-18 22:39
that is so sad for you youtube.com/watch?v=kJQP7kiw5Fk here is to cheer you up :)
2019-08-18 22:40
so you ran out of arguments, must be so sad for you.
2019-08-18 22:43
what do you mean? i never trusted people and got stabbed in the back? why should I care from your experiences?
2019-08-18 22:43
no reason to care but you just posted a link to a fucking despacito.
2019-08-18 22:44
yeah bro you must feel so bad of getting stabbed in the back so i wanted to cheer you up with a good song
2019-08-18 22:45
#549
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Czech Republic baginBo$$ 
Because most vegans are being vegans thanks to it being trendy, also meat tastes delicious, and All muscle tissue is very high in protein, containing all of the essential amino acids, and in most cases is a good source of zinc, vitamin B12, selenium, phosphorus, niacin, vitamin B6, choline, riboflavin and iron.[30] Several forms of meat are also high in vitamin K.[31] Muscle tissue is very low in carbohydrates and does not contain dietary fiber.[32] While taste quality may vary between meats, the proteins, vitamins, and minerals available from meats are generally consistent.
2019-08-18 22:39
yeah sure being vegan is "trendy" that still doesnt delete the fact that animal agriculture is very bad for the environment. supplementing is a thing for vegans just like it is for meat eaters. most of the people who eat normal diet that has diet in it still supplement certain vitamins. so why is vegans supplementing certain vitamins so bad ?
2019-08-18 22:42
#553
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Czech Republic baginBo$$ 
#235
2019-08-18 22:43
I am a normal human that eats a varied diet based on both meats and vegetables, you know eating the shit we are developed to eat. Don't get me wrong if you like being vegan good for you i see no damage in that
2019-08-18 22:48
but eating meat has damage in it. environmental and torturing of animals.
2019-08-18 22:49
Yes i dont agree with modern meat farms which is why i try to avoid halal, spanish meat etc
2019-08-18 22:51
thank you. but tell that to majority.
2019-08-18 22:53
but eating vegan substitutes like soy based stuff isnt that environmentally good either
2019-08-18 22:54
nothing is. everything we eat requires resources to grow. vegan options are still way less straining on the environment.
2019-08-18 22:55
Depends on what angle you are arguing from. Debating the ethical standpoint is pointless from a meat eaters perspective. Everything else makes a good debate.
2019-08-18 22:53
what do you mean. there is ethical and then there is environmental angle. might aswell push both of those in the face. both are facts anyways.
2019-08-18 22:54
Except that the environmental aspect as an argument becomes weak/non existent once the consumption goes down by 70-80%. If that happens, the argumentation of environmental impact falls flat.
2019-08-18 22:57
what are you saying ? when the meat consumption goes down by 70-80% ? if that happens we are already on the brightside. it takes 2000litres of fresh drinking water to make 1 fucking cheeseburger.
2019-08-18 22:59
I know? Doesn't change the fact that reducing consumption by 70-80% solves the issue. That's why arguing this topic with the standpoint "you need to stop eating meat, fish, dairy, eggs 100%" is bad and way more difficult to achieve or rather to convince a person.
2019-08-18 23:02
but we would atleast be on the brightside. ilriclippings.files.wordpress.com/2016/0.. eating meat is the easiest thing we can do to save this planet.
2019-08-18 23:05
70-80% reduction is all we need to do in terms of diet. Getting that point across is a lot easier.
2019-08-18 23:07
why every vegan guy as to say hey i m vegan seems like you always try to prove something to who is around you if i want to dress black i dress black if i want to eat meat i eat meat. thats it. if you wanna eat veggies all day long do it
2019-08-18 22:58
That's a lie. Just because 1 person opens a thread on HLTV, doesn't mean he speaks or is responsible for the action of _every_vegan_. Also, debating a topic is not wrong. Avoiding the issue doesn't solve it. So the author actually has a good reason to open this thread. If you don't understand that..it would be pretty disappointing.
2019-08-18 22:59
we are on the forum right now, ok. real life is whole different story. im just trying to make noise so people can see this and do research. if you want to dress black, then dress black. if i want to murder some1, ill just murder some1.
2019-08-18 23:03
it's just a choice, no hate at all.
2019-08-18 23:23
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