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What do you think of the israeli palestine conflict? Who is in the right and wrong? For me it seems like the jews use braindead logic, like our religion started here 3000 years ago, but my last 100 grandfathers are burried in europe/us. but we have right to take most of the land cus religion started here even tho most jews didnt live here untill europe gave it to us. thoughts?
2019-08-14 10:50
Who cares?
2019-08-14 10:51
#31
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Finland Lounatus 
+1
2019-08-14 11:21
#97
EliGE | 
United Kingdom Proqy0 
+1
2019-08-14 12:08
#117
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Iran Puriy0 
I hope that part goes to shit, gets destroyed with all the jews and muslims in it. This shit situation never hurt a country more than ours. Fuck Religion Fuck Palestine Fuck Israel Fuck Muslims And fuck jews!
2019-08-14 16:08
yes
2019-08-14 10:52
#3
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
I dont give a fuck about that desert so let them have it
2019-08-14 10:52
Who cares who was there first. Jews had no place to go, no nation in the world was keen on taking them in so the UN gave them their land of origin. Palestines are just too cocky to move on
2019-08-14 10:53
kurds will be given a big part of brazil, and we will see how u guys will act
2019-08-14 10:54
Kurds have no connection to brazil, so bad argument
2019-08-14 10:54
well a 3000 year old connection is supposed to be a strong one?
2019-08-14 10:55
#9
Xizt | 
Finland N1ghtmares 
There have been always jewish people in middle-east
2019-08-14 10:57
small amount
2019-08-14 10:57
Why do you care?
2019-08-14 10:58
So where would you have placed them?
2019-08-14 10:59
#51
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Vietnam rollofocker 
nobody 'gave' anything. it got conquered during ww1. basically it's the indirect result of the arabs revolting against turkic overlords. pride destroyed the ottoman caliphate and now the middle east has been a wreck ever since. also palestine isn't the 'land of origin' of the jews. they conquered it from other peoples during some obscure part of history. people just don't randomly spawn in an area they only settle somewhere. well the settlement of the old jews wasn't really that long in that area, at least not as a sovereign people.
2019-08-14 11:43
#8
Xizt | 
Finland N1ghtmares 
Jews must have place to settle like palestinians does as well since they both have lived there. I dont know how people can make this situtation so complicated. Theres shouldnt be anything complicated. Its funny how people have so much hatred against jews or palestinians in other side of the planet.
2019-08-14 10:56
pretty sure most countries would react same way if half of their country was given to the jews cus of a 3000 year old reason
2019-08-14 10:58
Do you know how jews have been treaten in history? Do you think they would just left their land for no reason? What are you thinking?
2019-08-14 11:10
#80
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Bouhouhou poor joods read #59 cunt Don't worry about them lmao they're billionaires, ez germany money.
2019-08-14 11:52
It didn't happen like that, your ignorance is absurd, yet you talk about it like if you knew it. You're a piece of shit.
2019-08-14 16:43
they would rather kill each other than share this land, its not complicated at all.
2019-08-14 11:16
#15
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Tunisia Respecc 
what's an Israel?
2019-08-14 11:01
#82
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Never thought I would +1 you but here we are +1000 Respecc asking the real questions here
2019-08-14 11:54
this prick again
2019-08-14 16:50
#17
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Europe _EpiC_ 
Israel didn't exist before 1955
2019-08-14 11:02
#25
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Yugoslavia Nurmukhammed 
read the bible
2019-08-14 11:19
#26
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Europe _EpiC_ 
no thanks I don't like fiction
2019-08-14 11:19
#29
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Yugoslavia Nurmukhammed 
if you dont like then dont write such a dumb shit
2019-08-14 11:19
#30
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Europe _EpiC_ 
see you in 10 years
2019-08-14 11:20
#52
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Vietnam rollofocker 
it were two kingdoms that briefly existed and that had a similar culture. before that 12 tribes who just made a loose confederation of some sorts. in the greater span of history it was very short lived and a very weak claim. the arabs who call themselves palestinians have a much greater claim, just that war doesn't work that way. claim is only important when you got the muscle to back it up.
2019-08-14 11:38
#19
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Finland Kurko_Of_HLTV 
bomb both
2019-08-14 11:11
both sides can claim that they are ethnically from the region, and neither wants peace, so they would continue killing each other for 1000 more years, if it werent for a coordinated effort by israel to make palestine completely unlivable, by draining the ground water and other fucked up shit like that. if no one acts all palestinians will need to leave due to lack of drinking water in the next couple decades, while jewish farmers are spraying that water on their olive gardens on the other side of the wall.
2019-08-14 11:15
#32
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Israel has consistently offered peace talks that would leave them with a fraction of the land they have now, Palestine and Hamas has consistently rejected them.
2019-08-14 11:22
yes, because israel expects them to sit down at these negotiations with a terrible position. israel controls their import/export, their electricity, their water, their schools.
2019-08-14 11:22
#36
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
You know Tel Aviv was a desert town when Israel was founded? Do you know what happened to it? It was made into a fully functioning city by Israel. Why can't Palestine do the same, with much fewer neighbours constantly declaring war on it?
2019-08-14 11:25
how do you think israel built a town in the middle of the desert? by draining water from the surrounding area. ground water in palestine has dropped dozens of meters since israel exists. israel can afford to drill deeper. palestinians cant. israel stops them from getting the right tools and material.
2019-08-14 11:27
#43
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Hahahaha Israel purifys water from the Mediterranean wtf kinda crack are you smoking? They literally give water to Palestine so you are sooo full of shit
2019-08-14 11:28
as you are clearly not well read about this subject, i will help you get started siteresources.worldbank.org/INTWESTBANKG.. if you respond within less than a couple hours, i will know you didnt read.
2019-08-14 11:29
#48
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
You didn't respond to the 2nd point that Israel gives free water to Palestine nt, you also seem to do that quite often now that I think about it. "Both sides want war" even though Israel has accepted peace but you don't address the fact that they literally offered peace several times. Wp
2019-08-14 11:32
thats a common misconception, they dont give that water for free at all, they charge money for it
2019-08-14 11:41
#55
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
So do water companies, do you cry about that too?
2019-08-14 11:41
water companies in my country arent controlled by a foreign government
2019-08-14 11:42
imagine if we had lost ww2 and the germans were draining our ground water supplies with really deep wells that we are not allowed to construct and then they charge us money for our own water
2019-08-14 11:43
#65
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
They would still be charged by Palestinian water companies, also if this is such a major point to you, why is this literally the first time I've ever heard it in dozens of conversations on the topic?
2019-08-14 11:44
because israel doesnt want to talk about this and the other really fucked up shit they do, they want to talk about terrorists and rockets and shit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_supply_and_s.. The Western Aquifer, in Israel called the Yarkon-Taninim Aquifer,[5] is the largest one, with an annual safe yield of 362 million cubic metres (mcm), based on average annual estimate, (of which 40 mcm are brackish). Eighty percent of the recharge area of this basin is located within the West Bank, whereas 80% of the storage area is located within Israeli borders. Israelis exploit the aquifers of this basin by means of 300 deep groundwater wells to the west of the Green Line, as well as by deep wells within the West Bank boundary. Palestinians use it via wells and springs.
2019-08-14 11:47
#76
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Because rockets and suicide bombings are a lot worse than paying a different water company for water?
2019-08-14 11:49
israel is systematically trying to make palestine unlivable, draining the water, preventing palestine from building schools, ports, etc, they are trying to make all the palestinians flee so they can take the land. the colonist settlements in palestinian territory are enough proof of this. if such means are used by one side, that justifies rebellion from the oppressed palestinians. from their side its a righteous cause. and for the israelis their cause is justified too. its their holy land given to them by god, after all.
2019-08-14 11:53
#86
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
No they really aren't, point out to a single thing in any Israeli manifesto that says that's their aim. On the other hand, it is very easy to find Palestinian and Hamas manifestos about totally wiping out Israel so your point is basically invalid. No more space on mobile btw
2019-08-14 11:55
actions speak louder than words do hamas isnt wiping out israel any time soon israel is making a coordinated effort to drive muslims out of the area now known as palestine. there was a boy in my school who had fled with his parents from palestine during his life people leave all the time they have no future there, no education, no jobs there are now millions of palestinians out of palestine. the jews have effectively done to the palestinians what was historically done to them en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#Demog.. (look at the table to the right) but because the palestinians are so poor, they also have a lot of kids. birth rate of 3.4 children per mother. so its like israel built a ghetto in which they are breeding poor arabs. that doesnt sound like a good idea if you want peace.
2019-08-14 12:07
its not that hamas doesnt also do bad things, they are both really really really bad
2019-08-14 11:48
#50
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
He's from the uk dude, they're the origin of the problem
2019-08-14 11:33
so its worth arguing the point that israel does a bunch of really fucked up shit with especially people from the UK
2019-08-14 11:41
#69
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Oh like bombing schools? No it's just self defense men I one saw a kid throw a ROCK at tank, shit was scary m8
2019-08-14 11:46
yeah the stuff about people getting shot for throwing rocks is really bad and makes for nice news stories, but hamas does put armed people in groups of protesters so they are literally asking for it
2019-08-14 11:50
#92
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Palestinians are the first victims of Hamas
2019-08-14 12:05
#61
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Did you know that since people from someone's country that they have no link to did something many years ago, it is also the view of everyone in that country today?
2019-08-14 11:44
by israel... ofc a newly created country, nation just had that money after being 'exterminated' in europe. they even had a military just to fight for decades after getting the land.
2019-08-14 11:47
#73
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
lmao holocaust denier spotted, you give people on your side a bad name
2019-08-14 11:48
saying it was built by israel itself is a blatant lie, eve u know it
2019-08-14 11:54
#87
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Tel Aviv was built by Israel you cockhead and the Holocaust did actually happen
2019-08-14 11:56
tel aviv was built by israel w the help of the us and the uk and i didnt say that the holocaust didnt happen
2019-08-14 12:02
if israel wanted peace, they should first retreat from the gaza strip, west bank, and other contested areas completely, remove their own illegal colonists, stop fucking with palestines water supply, and stop blockading ports etc, then there would be a sign of good faith that palestinian authority can show to people to convince them not to follow hamas as long as israel keeps acting like an oppressor, palestinians will treat them as one.
2019-08-14 11:25
#41
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Why would they stop occupying land when that country is at war with them but won't accept peace? That doesn't make any sense at all. They occupy the land to decrease the number of Israeli casualties from suicide bombers from HAMAS AND PALESTINE btw
2019-08-14 11:27
occupying palestines land is exactly what ensures that there will be israeli casualties for another 1000 years. there will never be peace like this. of course, thats exactly what netanyahu wants. if there would be peace, he would be out at the next election.
2019-08-14 11:28
#44
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Well the solution is very simple actually - Palestine accepts peace so Israel can withdraw but Palestine has refused peace offerings every time
2019-08-14 11:29
israel keeps giving palestinians too many reasons to want to support hamas instead of opting for peace and hamas wont accept peace
2019-08-14 11:44
#67
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Bomb them till they die then
2019-08-14 11:44
very humanitarian of you
2019-08-14 11:49
#78
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Itll save lives in the long run, so yes, very humanitarian.
2019-08-14 11:49
israeli lives, not palestinians
2019-08-14 11:54
#88
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Israeli citizens are far more productive than Arab citizens, even from non wartorn countries so I don't see a problem
2019-08-14 11:57
and people with higher labor productivity have more right to live? are you a fascist?
2019-08-14 12:07
#98
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
imgur.com/a/jyKmt9q You could say that
2019-08-14 12:09
okay, i'll see you in the streets then. wear a brown shirt.
2019-08-14 12:10
#101
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Also israelis have western values, very much unlike the uncivilised Palestinians
2019-08-14 12:12
#102
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
No more room to reply on mobile btw but yes western values are the correct values
2019-08-14 12:13
sieg heil
2019-08-14 12:20
#104
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
You actually are from Israel, aren't you? #88 (what a coincidence LOL) proved once more that you have similar views as Nazi Germany. Only difference is the region you want to conquer (+erase the population there).
2019-08-14 12:21
#21
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Yugoslavia Nurmukhammed 
they should live in peace btw you can read in the bible it's the land of Israel the Bible was before the quran so..
2019-08-14 11:16
#27
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
and who wrote the bible?
2019-08-14 11:19
#47
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Historically that land was occupied by the tribes of Israel long before the Philistines
2019-08-14 11:30
#58
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Which times you talking about? Earlier than 1400 B.C.E.? Even if thats true, than they might have taken it from someone else beforehand as well. Don't get me wrong, as I said in #3, I don't really care who lives there nowadays.
2019-08-14 11:42
#70
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
Ofc they took it from someone beforehand, countries today are all countries that have conquered land from other states before eventually deciding that since they're happy with how the borders are, no more changes should happen. It's why people being angry at Russia for invading crimea doesnt make sense since the majority of the region is Russian.
2019-08-14 11:47
#22
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Germany smart_leftist 
Israel = terrorist state Palestine belongs to Palestinians (Muslims)
2019-08-14 11:16
#24
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Yugoslavia Nurmukhammed 
congratz the dumbest think what i read today
2019-08-14 11:18
Nickname checks out gross anarchist
2019-08-14 11:19
#77
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
+1
2019-08-14 11:49
#112
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Algeria MaxZeMeister 
+1
2019-08-14 16:00
#129
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93.. palestine lost their land fair and square
2019-08-14 16:55
#34
XeqtR | 
Hong Kong wqnxy1 
Israel-who conflict?
2019-08-14 11:23
#40
Twistzz | 
Israel Porkee 
+1
2019-08-14 11:26
Palestine never existed. It's just arab nationalism, made up to hate Jews even more. Hell, not even the muslim/arab neighbours of Palestine want them in their countries. They are ready to hate Israel and Jews though.
2019-08-14 11:24
#37
World doh 
israel new age nazis
2019-08-14 11:25
bromisd land
2019-08-14 11:30
#115
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Israel sbd123 
balastine
2019-08-14 16:04
#49
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Vietnam rollofocker 
there isn't such a thing as 'having right to a land'. the jews conquered it from canaan peoples and afterwards the babylonians conquered it from the jews. now the jews whispered in the ears of the UK people and the brits/allies conquered palestine and gave it to the jews. if only the arabs wouldn't be so fractured and greedy they would have reconquered it from the jews a long time ago. face it the caliphate isn't some romantic dream muslims have. the caliphate only ever worked when one tribe/country conquered all of the ME and installed a lot of vassals states. it's not something that happens of itself or it would have happened already. how else can you explain that there was a ba'ath parth in syria as well as in iraq? ba'ath means rebirth by the way. also the israelites just owned them military, when they destroyed all arab fighter jets in a single night f.e. it's like they use the strategies that napoleon used as well. israelites form a tight bond vs many fractured arab states.
2019-08-14 11:40
Well articulated response, one of the best I've seen out here just wow..
2019-08-14 15:44
Really no point in wasting time in this argument :)
2019-08-14 11:41
#62
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
nt zion go back to poland
2019-08-14 11:42
#63
World doh 
i agree, controlling USA (trump , look a those people around him, who supported him with money) controlling Hollywood ( sorry Pedowood ) and media and Banks/FED !!.. -> i agree wasting time ... u cant do shit against them, they rule over the world.. Zionism... worst shit ever happened
2019-08-14 11:45
#59
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Israel doesn't exist and never will. Racist terrorist state making Palestinians and Jews live in constant fear. It was Palestine and it will always be. Jews in their own religion were forbidden to unite in one land, they had to live like nomads, so the argument of "poor jews they need a land" isn't valid and fucking hilarious. Genocide a population and steal their land.. Americans did that before lmao
2019-08-14 11:42
What a retarded reply. Imagine being this influenced by propaganda you are 100% some muslim immigrant living on welfare in the netherlands. Isreal exists simply because they can defend their land and borders, if tomorrow Palestians decide to attack and try and retake the land they can. All this bullshit about " oh I have the right to this piece of desert" is absolute worthless, the country that can defend the land owns the land. And maybe Hamas should stop firing 600 rockets towards Isreal if they really want peace.
2019-08-14 15:51
+1
2019-08-14 16:11
u do realize hamas is lobbied
2019-08-14 16:40
Ofcoure Hamas is sponsored by Iran , it's not like that's some secret lmfao.
2019-08-14 16:46
#131
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
What a moronic argument, "I'm gonna kick you out of your home, but since I have guns it's gonna be my home now, also don't resist or I'm gonna kill you" Flag checks out btw you stupid fat fuck go shoot up a school all they do their is teach you propaganda anyway. Hamas is a terrorist state sponsored by Iran. Israel is a terrorist state sponsored by usa.
2019-08-14 19:50
The right for conquest is a thing you know or are you too uneducated to understand that? If tomorrow the netherlands want to retake belgium they have every right to try and take the land. Nt goatfucker
2019-08-14 22:50
Nt abdul
2019-08-14 16:11
#128
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
arabs lost the war fair and square, now they're crying because they lost. israel even gained more land after that.
2019-08-14 16:52
#132
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
You realise that the current situation there is not gonna last long, someone is gonna snap soon, and it's not gonna be nice to watch.
2019-08-14 19:52
#64
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Finland FakeHltv 
Idk but i dont like muslims so i guess ill support Israel
2019-08-14 11:43
#71
World doh 
look up for Kalergi plan... you have zero clue
2019-08-14 11:47
#89
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Finland FakeHltv 
Coudenhove-Kalergi Conspiracy,[1] is a far-right,[2] anti-semitic, white nationalist conspiracy theory,[3] Nah im good
2019-08-14 11:58
#95
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
Antisemitic : Naaah very bad thing men Anti Muslim : Hell yeah I hate them You fucking hypocrite
2019-08-14 12:08
#107
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Finland FakeHltv 
Im just not gona buy into some conspiracy, i find islam disgusting and what they do are facts not some conspiracy. Their laws, what they find ok. Disgusting.
2019-08-14 14:38
#108
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
I'm disgusting? ok men ty
2019-08-14 15:42
#122
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Finland FakeHltv 
Not necessarily you as a person, just the Muslim ideology and the countries (laws and such), possible your views aswell.
2019-08-14 16:42
Palestine is a bunch of terrorists
2019-08-14 11:54
Who cars, nuke them both
2019-08-14 11:59
#93
tarik | 
Netherlands Most! 
youtu.be/_Jj8vne0ca0 Watch this and you'll know what the real deal is
2019-08-14 12:06
British laughter in the background
2019-08-14 12:10
Jews won WW2 as a superpower nation within other nations and used it's vassals - USA and UK to secure a real country for themselves. They are super fascist people and it gives them power. If you played the Last of us game, jews are the fungus, UK is runners, USA is clickers.
2019-08-14 12:23
Palestine is a bunch of terrorists and arabs, we have enough braindead muslims
2019-08-14 12:26
Stop killing Israelis if you want to live in peace. /close
2019-08-14 15:46
+1
2019-08-14 16:02
I dont recognize Palestine as a nation.
2019-08-14 16:02
#116
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Iran Puriy0 
I hope that part goes to shit, gets destroyed with all the jews and muslims in it. This shit situation never hurt a country more than ours. Fuck Religion Fuck Palestine Fuck Israel Fuck Muslims And fuck jews!
2019-08-14 16:06
Palestine is not a country
2019-08-14 16:13
#123
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
hol up
2019-08-14 16:43
#125
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
israel da bess you ever had palestine is mad syria be mad egypt be mad
2019-08-14 16:43
#130
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Moldova Spudnik 
I support Israel because I like the country, and I like living here.
2019-08-14 16:58
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