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Should married gays be able to adopt children?
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Austria TheClemi 
Im very interested in your opinion bc I can understand if you say yes and if you say no.
2019-08-18 20:21
No. They claim they "follow" the natural way and that homosexuality is seen in nature aswell, but other "gay" animals don't breed, nor do they have offsprings, and adoption is almost non-existence in nature. And they will just brainwash the kid to be an SJW/LIBERAL/DIVERSITY/ ANTI-TRUMP/PRO-PALESTINE, etc You can't drink alco until 18 but can pick your gender when you are 4 LOL
2019-08-18 20:30
2 gay Pinguins in a german zoo adopted an egg. Easy to own your weak shit talk homophobe.
2019-08-18 20:26
Lemme guess, they did it during the pride month?
2019-08-18 20:29
Homosexual penguins lmao. Do they fuck each other or what? How did one conclude they are gays?
2019-08-18 20:37
cuz they chose a partner and they act only with him this way. You would know that. But you are denying any biological facts. Instead, you talk shit about them for weak arguments.
2019-08-18 20:39
Not like taking abandoned eggs is a common thing among penguins lol
2019-08-18 20:49
There are animals that have an issue to accept orphans but there are also animals that have no problem with that. But you say gay animals wouldn't adopt orphans.
2019-08-18 20:51
If you read the original message again, you would see that it says "almost" And when I say almost i am talking about birds. It's easy to put an alien egg to their nest and they will most likely take it.
2019-08-18 20:57
animals know what eggs they are dealing with
2019-08-19 02:02
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Australia Dadecum 
thats not true, cuckoos eat the eggs of a bird and then lays its own, the bird doesnt notice until they hatch
2019-08-19 13:21
#225
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Turkey sonbafrali 
Germens))) wtf lmao
2019-08-19 16:47
dude, what is wrong with Germany ? used to be good country smh
2019-08-21 12:08
seems reasonable enough, i don't think anyone would be against gay couples adopting kids so long as they live in a german zoo.
2019-08-18 20:35
Lmao
2019-08-18 20:36
If you have an IQ as H. Simpsons this is acceptable.
2019-08-18 20:37
what are you saying??? that it's not acceptable for gay couples to adopt kids? disgusting homophobe get the fuck out of here
2019-08-18 20:45
baitzera
2019-08-18 20:48
im not baiting you, im mocking you, there is a difference
2019-08-18 20:50
#82
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Finland 0lter 
DISGUSTING GET OUT OF HERE SEXIST RACIST PIG
2019-08-18 20:50
N1
2019-08-19 01:19
#213
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
hahahaha
2019-08-19 14:48
They did it because the gay zoo keeper gave them the egg lmao
2019-08-19 00:27
#214
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
+1
2019-08-19 14:48
expected from Boris
2019-08-20 18:47
#226
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Turkey sonbafrali 
+1 I was thinking about that. Now the mystery solved for me. thanks.
2019-08-19 16:48
and they adopted it. There isn't a thing "we give it to them and they take it" it is their choice. Better smoke lees weed and improve your 50IQ
2019-08-20 18:46
Actually there is this thing called '' we give it to them and they take it '' since its NORMAL for a MALE penguin to take the EGG and BREED it. Maybe you are the one that should smoke ''lees'' weed and improve your mediocre 94 IQ.
2019-08-20 18:51
Nope
2019-08-20 19:00
Imagine your only response being ''Nope'' when you know you've been proven wrong and have accused someone of being a 50 IQ pothead whilst being wrong lmao
2019-08-20 19:26
I don't have to say more to a bullshit talker. Go and find your 25IQ that are left.
2019-08-20 19:31
Imagine being wrong, and just trying to ''win'' an argument by calling someone names. I bet you'd vote Democrat 9/10 times. Let's go further I bet you voted for Merkel. People like you are the problem with this world, ignorant pieces of garbage that can't think for their own and can't accept it when they are wrong. Like, I think gay people SHOULD be able to adopt children yet saying that the ''gay'' penguins are the better parents is just a bs statement created by a gay zoo keeper that doesn't even slightly effect humans since the relationship between humans is way different than the relationship penguins have.
2019-08-20 19:33
when has NatsuS ever said anything that made any remote sense
2019-08-20 19:47
netzi traitor
2019-08-20 18:41
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Czech Republic rusteD 
yes like the penguins decided, oh lets adopt this egg! more like they have natural instincts and its in them to take care about eggs...
2019-08-20 19:33
#31
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Qatar olaolakaka 
+1
2019-08-18 20:29
How the fuck are other gay animals supposed to breed? No one ever said that, the point is that homosexuality is something that occurs in nature and isnt something that the "evil humans do out of the fallen nature of man and their free will". If you are such a facts guy, then accept the fact that MANY studies have been done on this topic and the clear consensus is that being raised by gay parents does NOT have a negative effect on the child.
2019-08-18 20:40
youtu.be/4sPj8HhbwHs Those parents surely did not have any negative effects on the kids.
2019-08-18 20:46
See the difference?
2019-08-18 20:47
so what? you will probably brainwash your kids to hate people of color, muslims and communism. shouldn't you be able to raise kids?
2019-08-19 16:18
No, I will not.
2019-08-19 16:40
hating communism is not even close to the same as hating people of color why would u even add that part
2019-08-20 19:48
depression is something that occurs in nature, so does autism, addiction, anxiety, anorexia, insomnia and a bunch of other mental illnesses. while we do have an autism awareness day, that doesn't sound as flashy as a "pride month", does it now? we don't tend to celebrate depression or anorexia in our society as some form of self expression. what research are you talking about specifically? most of the ones i've seen being talked about were about school grades which frankly makes little to no sense.
2019-08-18 21:07
Yeah, and all of those have an acute and direct negative effect that is detrimental to the well-being of that person. Homosexuality does not. Anyhow, heres a selection: Pawelski, J. G.; Perrin, E. C.; Foy, J. M.; Allen, C. E.; Crawford, J. E.; Del Monte, M.; Kaufman, M.; Klein, J. D.; Smith, K.; Springer, S.; Tanner, J. L.; Vickers, D. L. (2006). "The Effects of Marriage, Civil Union, and Domestic Partnership Laws on the Health and Well-being of Children". Pediatrics. 118 (1): 349–364. doi:10.1542/peds.2006-1279. PMID 16818585. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "AMA Policy Regarding Sexual Orientation". American Medical Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Position Statement on Support of Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Civil Marriage" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Statement on Marriage and the Family". American Anthropological Association. Retrieved June 9, 2015. "Position Statement on Adoption and Co-parenting of Children by Same-sex Couples" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. 2002. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "The APA reaffirms support for same-sex marriage". San Diego Gay and Lesbian News. 2010-08-11. Retrieved July 28, 2012. "Support for Marriage Equality" (PDF). American Academy of Nursing. July 2012. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Marriage of Same-Sex Couples – 2006 Position Statement Canadian Psychological Association" (PDF). 2006. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2009-04-19. "Elizabeth Short, Damien W. Riggs, Amaryll Perlesz, Rhonda Brown, Graeme Kane: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Parented Families – A Literature Review prepared for The Australian Psychological Society" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-11-05. Brief of the American Psychological Association, Kentucky Psychological Association, Ohio Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, Michigan Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, National Association of Social Workers, National Association of Social Workers Tennessee Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Michigan Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Kentucky Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Ohio Chapter, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and American Medical Association as Amici Curiae in Support of Petitioners Herek GM (September 2006). "Legal recognition of same-sex relationships in the United States: a social science perspective" (PDF). The American Psychologist. 61 (6): 607–21. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.61.6.607. PMID 16953748. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2010-06-10. Biblarz, Timothy J.; Stacey, Judith (2010). "How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?". Journal of Marriage and Family. 72: 3–22. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.593.4963. doi:10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00678.x. Archived from the original on 19 October 2017. Retrieved 26 July 2015. Brief presented to the Legislative House of Commons Committee on Bill C38 by the Canadian Psychological Association – June 2, 2005. Davis, Annie (October 22, 2017). "Children raised by same-sex parents do as well as their peers, study shows". The Guardian. Retrieved March 28, 2018. Bever, Lindsey (July 7, 2014). "Children of same-sex couples are happier and healthier than peers, research shows". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 28, 2018.
2019-08-18 21:12
i consider not being able to reproduce far more detrimental than having an addiction or having a sleeping disorder. as for the articles you could link the source instead of copy pasting from said source.
2019-08-18 21:28
They are able to reproduce. They are simply not impaired.
2019-08-18 22:43
not with each other they don't. it's easier for females because they can get semen donations, but a male would require a surrogate mother which by the way i find quite controversial even when gay people are not involved. a person suffering from depression can get anti depressants, a person suffering from insomnia can get sleeping pills. the fact a solution or rather an accommodation exists doesn't mean the problem isn't there. the fact our society managed to find ways to enable gay people reproduce doesn't mean their disability doesn't exist.
2019-08-18 23:46
I have multiple issues with that, one of them being: In what way is a homosexual impaired who certainly positively absolutely DOESNT WANT to have a child? Because then you have a person that can do exactly everything he wants to and doesnt harm anyone else in the process. That would mean that there is no imaginable qualifier anymore for that person to be labeled as "having a disease".
2019-08-19 13:06
while i don't really agree with either of you, diseased doesn't mean you have an impact on others. i wouldn't use a libertarian argument against conservatism since it doesnt really combat their points it just ignores them.
2019-08-19 13:31
It does, for example, a psychopath without any empathy who murders and robs people might be leading a happy and "successful" life because he just doesnt care and always has a comfortable monetary life, but it drastically impairs his life among society and greatly damages others.
2019-08-19 17:47
you've completely misunderstood my point.
2019-08-20 16:51
umm, what exactly did i not understand about it? I adressed it directly.
2019-08-20 18:32
diseased doesn't mean you have an impact on others... it means you are 'suffering from disease' or are 'abnormal and corrupt'. it makes no mention of your impact on others. objectively, you failed to understand my point and the what the word 'diseased' actually means. idk why you went on about psychopathy like one example means there is a rule... but it did also show that you didn't understand my point about libertarianism.
2019-08-21 12:21
Well, if we are going to talk semantics, disease under no condition has anything to do with homosexuality. IF anything you mean disorder. And homosexuality also doesnt fit any of the qualifiers for mental disorder either. But I see that I have been using a more or less outdated definition and as such the "affecting others" part isnt as critical. Nonetheless, point about homosexuality not being a disease, illness, sickness, disorder, disability, impairment, handicap, medical condition or any of that still stands.
2019-08-21 13:13
n1 assuming i was disagreeing with what you're saying, apart from the incorrect use of language, and getting tilted. i don't think i ever said it was a disease, nor implied anything of the sort. my only criticism was of incorrect language use with which you made a stupid and completely semantic argument and then the attempt to use a libertarian argument (if it doesnt effect anyone else, why does it matter?) against a conservative, which is ridiculous if you know anything about the moral origins of three main politics stances. i see now you'll never understand. have a good one.
2019-08-21 16:38
What I wrote: "Because then you have a person that can do exactly everything he wants to and doesnt harm anyone else in the process. That would mean that there is no imaginable qualifier anymore for that person to be labeled as "having a disease"." What you represented that as: "if it doesnt effect anyone else, why does it matter?" These are two different things. I was explaining (going off an old definition of disease that I saw) that none of the two qualifiers that an attribute has to have in order to qualify as a disease (being inhibitory in terms of physical, biological or mental capability or well-being OR being harmful to society) apply to a homosexual who doesnt want to have children. I was strictly arguing against the claim that homosexuality is a disease, based on the definition of disease. I wasnt arguing that something that doesnt affect someone else is irrelevant, obviously, because that would be retarded. That was pretty clear imo, but apparently you cant read.
2019-08-21 19:34
THERE ARE LITERALLY ANIMALS THAT WILL CHANGE THEIR SEX ORGANS IF THEIR PARTNER DIES, HOW ARE WE STILL HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
2019-08-18 22:59
there are animals who kills their partner by eating their heads after sex, should we do it too?
2019-08-18 23:54
You explain how those two are remptely comparable and I'll consider starting with you.
2019-08-19 00:06
??? reply needs to have actual content if a random animal does x humans should be able/supposed to do it too?
2019-08-19 00:16
Do you not understand the difference between a trait and biology?
2019-08-19 01:35
Is this a bait or yes?
2019-08-19 01:36
One is a basic behaviour, the other is a complex series of biological changes. The equivalent would be if humans grew wings if we lost our legs.
2019-08-19 01:52
you lost me during this second half. sexual cannabalism is as much a biological trait as changing sex, it just much less complicated. im also confused as to why animals changing sexual organs supports or discredits allowing homosexuals to raise kids.
2019-08-19 13:34
It's a biotrait sure, but obviously not to the same extent as sex change. It's why I'd class it as a basic behaviour because the equivalent would be...i dunno...dogs burying bones. It's a part of their genetic code, but serves no real purpose. And I only bring it up because I feel it's a good support point for saying that transgenderism and homosexuality are apparent in nature, and that it's not a "mental disease" or "unnatural".
2019-08-19 18:20
animals changing sexual organs is very different to transgenderism given that it is done to facilitate pro-creation (so unfortunately swings back in conservatives favour). i get what you mean about the 'if its in nature' argument, it is a popular thing to do, though eternally contradictory due to the almost infinite diversity of nature. however i dont think nature should be what we base our moral standpoints off of, otherwise the only logic approach is complete utilitarianism. furthermore, i believe that these issues are strictly moral given our current limitations on understanding the human brain.
2019-08-20 16:50
#238
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Brazil BrazilBrain 
So head?
2019-08-19 18:12
#116
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Homophobe. I mean, its obvious
2019-08-19 00:08
You really dont have to be brainwashed to be anti-trump.
2019-08-19 00:23
#123
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Tunisia Respecc 
Edgy
2019-08-19 00:24
#130
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
+1
2019-08-19 01:06
you keep comparing human beings with other animals, and keep forgetting that we're rational, therefore we produce culture, and every behavior that comes from culture is not natural, in fact, there are little things we do that is still natural, so what's the difference if the kid is or isn't becoming gay after all, and if so, what guarantees you that we're not manipulated to be heterosexual? (sociologically speaking, we are, indeed.). Though If you think that being gay is a true problem, the main problem isn't with adoption, is just that you're just a homophobic who's probably looking for acceptation.
2019-08-19 02:03
#179
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Australia opzy 
Yeah, lets apply the logic of the animal world to everything, shall we.
2019-08-19 09:19
+1 they are also pedophiles 99% of the time.
2019-08-19 13:18
there are homophobic animals that adopt
2019-08-19 13:27
#252
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Kazakhstan MahNinja 
Expected from Anschluss AKA tolerant (?) guy
2019-08-20 18:48
#261
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Germany xNIKOoO 
aua - Name checks out once again
2019-08-20 19:27
No. A young child needs both a good father and a good mother.
2019-08-18 20:21
#7
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Greece NaviGuy 
+1
2019-08-18 20:22
it's not like they have perfect parents before being adopted
2019-08-18 20:23
yup, gay parents > addict parnts, but I think some kid could get bullied because of gay parents
2019-08-18 20:23
not having parents at all is also a source of bullying
2019-08-18 20:25
well yea, probably better have gay parents than no parents at all, I mean if they adopt their backgrounds are likely well checked.
2019-08-18 20:26
+1
2019-08-18 20:27
#16
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Germany flufluflu1 
You know these kids have neither? So why not give them 2 same sex people?
2019-08-18 20:24
#21
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Austria TheClemi 
actually a good point but a hetero couple should have priority imo but before they don't have any parents yes.
2019-08-18 20:26
+1
2019-08-18 20:27
#28
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Germany flufluflu1 
Why would 2 same sex people not be able to give as much love?
2019-08-18 20:28
#33
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Austria TheClemi 
The parents are but I think as already mentioned before that kids need a mother in their nature.
2019-08-18 20:30
#35
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Germany flufluflu1 
For what exactly? What could a man not show his kid?
2019-08-18 20:31
#39
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Austria TheClemi 
I think for example that it's more easy to talk about some stuff with your mother and some stuff with your dad. Like when a girl get's the first period it could be difficult for her to talk about it with her dad.
2019-08-18 20:33
#41
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Germany flufluflu1 
thats difficult in general lmao. but there are other people who can help.
2019-08-18 20:34
#52
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Austria TheClemi 
I also found this: For the girl, the father is the most important role model for what she can expect from a man. Studies show that adolescent girls who grew up without a father have greater closeness-distance problems than boys of the same age and are more likely to swing unwantedly
2019-08-18 20:38
#54
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Austria TheClemi 
also: It is characteristic of the lesbian woman that she will not or can not have the man and the male in close relationship. This will aggravate and inhibit the male identity development of boys.
2019-08-18 20:39
#58
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Austria TheClemi 
and: There are significant lifestyle differences between homosexual and heterosexual couples. Statistically speaking, promiscuity is significantly higher among homosexual men than in a normal father-mother relationship. This has a destructive effect on the attachment needs of children.
2019-08-18 20:40
#57
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Germany flufluflu1 
nOt HaViNg BoTh IsNt BeTtEr aLl HuMaNs ArE tHe SaMe
2019-08-18 20:40
#63
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Austria TheClemi 
yes? I already said that I just believe that hetero couples should have a priority in adopting
2019-08-18 20:41
#66
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Germany flufluflu1 
I dont know why you are trying to argue with me, I mean im right and you are wrong lol. We already have the right to adopt anyway so your point is...?
2019-08-18 20:42
#71
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Austria TheClemi 
I just want a good discussion but you say "I'm right and you're wrong" so you can't really discuss. I give you arguments and you could refute them but I see that you can't
2019-08-18 20:45
#75
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Germany flufluflu1 
because its braindead to argue about something that has already been dealt with
2019-08-18 20:46
#77
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Austria TheClemi 
Ohhhh I see you're a german leftist and most likely also think that we should not discuss about things like the refugee situation of 2015 and how much Merkel fucked up Europe.
2019-08-18 20:48
#86
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Germany flufluflu1 
no im simply gay
2019-08-18 20:58
#89
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Austria TheClemi 
And I don't have a problem with it im just giving my opinion
2019-08-18 20:59
objectively speaking youre actually incorrect, in most of what you said: humans are not all the same no matter how you want to spin it (our different existences are proof of that, unless you dont think people are gay and/or straight from birth) and having both gender roles is useful (though not necessary or even better) in raising children. morally speaking youre correct.
2019-08-19 13:39
hoping you were baiting and i fell for it.
2019-08-20 16:52
#257
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United States Gabriel955 
what a rude thing to say
2019-08-20 19:11
#268
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Poland Julka 
You actually seem to be that wrong one lol
2019-08-20 19:44
#40
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
how to get girls
2019-08-18 20:33
#43
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Germany flufluflu1 
hasnt worked for 99% of hltv has it
2019-08-18 20:34
#85
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
LUL well played
2019-08-18 20:56
Its interesting that you cite studies but you dont cite the overwhelming body of evidence that shows that being raised by gay parents does not have a negative effect on the child.
2019-08-18 20:41
#65
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Austria TheClemi 
yeah? bc mine refute the others.
2019-08-18 20:42
Pawelski, J. G.; Perrin, E. C.; Foy, J. M.; Allen, C. E.; Crawford, J. E.; Del Monte, M.; Kaufman, M.; Klein, J. D.; Smith, K.; Springer, S.; Tanner, J. L.; Vickers, D. L. (2006). "The Effects of Marriage, Civil Union, and Domestic Partnership Laws on the Health and Well-being of Children". Pediatrics. 118 (1): 349–364. doi:10.1542/peds.2006-1279. PMID 16818585. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "AMA Policy Regarding Sexual Orientation". American Medical Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Position Statement on Support of Legal Recognition of Same-Sex Civil Marriage" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Statement on Marriage and the Family". American Anthropological Association. Retrieved June 9, 2015. "Position Statement on Adoption and Co-parenting of Children by Same-sex Couples" (PDF). American Psychiatric Association. 2002. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "The APA reaffirms support for same-sex marriage". San Diego Gay and Lesbian News. 2010-08-11. Retrieved July 28, 2012. "Support for Marriage Equality" (PDF). American Academy of Nursing. July 2012. Retrieved November 2, 2013. "Marriage of Same-Sex Couples – 2006 Position Statement Canadian Psychological Association" (PDF). 2006. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2009-04-19. "Elizabeth Short, Damien W. Riggs, Amaryll Perlesz, Rhonda Brown, Graeme Kane: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) Parented Families – A Literature Review prepared for The Australian Psychological Society" (PDF). Retrieved 2010-11-05. Brief of the American Psychological Association, Kentucky Psychological Association, Ohio Psychological Association, American Psychiatric Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, Michigan Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, National Association of Social Workers, National Association of Social Workers Tennessee Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Michigan Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Kentucky Chapter, National Association of Social Workers Ohio Chapter, American Psychoanalytic Association, American Academy of Family Physicians, and American Medical Association as Amici Curiae in Support of Petitioners Herek GM (September 2006). "Legal recognition of same-sex relationships in the United States: a social science perspective" (PDF). The American Psychologist. 61 (6): 607–21. doi:10.1037/0003-066X.61.6.607. PMID 16953748. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2010-06-10. Biblarz, Timothy J.; Stacey, Judith (2010). "How Does the Gender of Parents Matter?". Journal of Marriage and Family. 72: 3–22. CiteSeerX 10.1.1.593.4963. doi:10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00678.x. Archived from the original on 19 October 2017. Retrieved 26 July 2015. Brief presented to the Legislative House of Commons Committee on Bill C38 by the Canadian Psychological Association – June 2, 2005. Davis, Annie (October 22, 2017). "Children raised by same-sex parents do as well as their peers, study shows". The Guardian. Retrieved March 28, 2018. Bever, Lindsey (July 7, 2014). "Children of same-sex couples are happier and healthier than peers, research shows". The Washington Post. Retrieved March 28, 2018. Now lets see yours
2019-08-18 20:46
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Austria TheClemi 
+1111
2019-08-18 20:24
yeah. A father punched his kid to dead the mother stood there and did nothing. These kids would have a lot more luck with 2 gay parents. "No" sayer has really absolutely no rational argumentation for their view.
2019-08-18 20:28
I don't understand if this is a biography, a fictional story, or an argument for/against gay couples adopting kids. But since I like to take risks, I will say +1
2019-08-18 20:32
this is what you can read every month in the newspaper.
2019-08-18 20:32
I don't read/watch the news for that very reason. But lets stay on topic. A child needs a father and a mother, so two fathers would be missing one thing...A mother Still, two fathers is better than no parents, or a single parents (or two mothers, but we won't go there) But a father and mother combination is ten times better than any of the above and that is what every child deserves.
2019-08-18 20:36
say that to the kids your Government abducted on your borders. I guess NA opinion doesn't count cuz they are evil and cruel to kids.
2019-08-18 20:41
Not if you go by what people say that have actually studied that shit for decades.
2019-08-18 20:42
you're such an emotional retard. typical 2019 germanocuck
2019-08-20 00:14
Guess what fucker 2 dads better than no parents.Retarded motherfucker thinks they distribute female male parents like candies.Here you get a parent you get a parent you get a parent too.Basement dwellers on this site are waaaaaay too disconnected from life its literally scarry
2019-08-18 20:59
That is how it is in one of my favorite movies/book "The Giver" You ask to be assigned a spouse, and then you can apply for children. The "birth mothers" make the babies and the parents get the kid when it turns ~1 year old. No sex.
2019-08-18 21:21
+1
2019-08-19 18:00
no cuz they big gey)))
2019-08-18 20:22
+1 can confirm
2019-08-18 20:22
only good argument
2019-08-19 02:38
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Brazil RAYRELiCK 
no
2019-08-18 20:22
Yes
2019-08-19 02:44
No because the kid will probably get bullied in school for that. Kids are brutal.
2019-08-18 20:22
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Poland zmija9 
your father and your father tonight tonight
2019-08-18 20:23
you can easily counter that crap.
2019-08-18 20:34
+1 Kids are fucking brutal and stuff like this could lead to years of trauma. It's not against gays, it's more to protect the children, even tho gay parents are better than addict parents in most cases
2019-08-18 20:24
kids get bullied for the wrong name. Where would you stop? cuz you could be bullied for everything. You DNA a sickness...
2019-08-18 20:31
On the other hand.. Mens would be immune to yo mama jokes 😎😎😎😎
2019-08-18 20:31
They'd still have a biological mother, assuming that she isn't dead. Otherwise mens would be too OP! 😎😎😎😎
2019-08-18 20:41
Wtf plz nerf mens)) 😎😎😎
2019-08-18 20:40
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Germany MackyGee 
yes
2019-08-18 20:22
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Russia LeGoBoys 
No
2019-08-18 20:23
#10
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Netherlands zeoligma 
yes
2019-08-18 20:23
#12
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Netherlands NELK 
If you want kids than be fucking straight
2019-08-18 20:23
JUST BE STRAIGHT 4HEad
2019-08-18 20:40
1000000000IQ take here
2019-08-19 01:45
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Germany flufluflu1 
Ofc we should be able to adopt kids. You think living in a children's home is better for them? Do you know what happens to you if you ever have to go to one? Your whole future is fucked. In Germany the state makes you repay everything. Once you find a job you have to pay 75% of your money to the state. Compare it to a foster home. 2 parents loving you for who you are. They would never expect you to pay them back. Also: same sex couples usually are financially more stable, because both have worked and most of the time are on average more educated than the "usual" couple.
2019-08-18 20:23
+1
2019-08-18 20:35
-1 being gay does not affect your education
2019-08-19 00:07
-1 being gay does not affect your education
2019-08-19 00:07
He isnt saying that, he is saying that ON AVERAGE they tend to be more educated. They arent educated because they are gay, they are just commonly educated.
2019-08-19 02:36
-1 calling gays dumb
2019-08-19 02:39
reported
2019-08-21 00:40
#17
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Netherlands BigMarvin 
Two womens)))) can have mini-womens)))) and two mens)))))) can have mini-mens))))
2019-08-18 20:24
#26
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Austria TheClemi 
made my day
2019-08-18 20:28
No, development wise its the same as single parents, you need a mix for a balanced upbringing.
2019-08-18 20:29
says who?
2019-08-18 20:44
#30
2019-08-18 23:49
Unfortunately for you, facts dont care about your feelings.
2019-08-19 13:09
What facts
2019-08-19 16:13
The huge number of studies whose consensus is: "Being raised by gay parents does not have any negative effects on the children." But sure, let your opinion overrule decades of research by hundreds if not thousands of researchers.
2019-08-19 17:48
#267
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
sure, how about those studies which claim that kids raised by single parents have issues? but suddenly it doesnt matter xdd we live in a society that goes to the medieval ages. back then church was bending science, today political correctness bends the science. they even deny the existence of human races xdd These findings are reinforced in Growing Up with a Single Parent: What Hurts, What Helps, a book written by Sara McLanahan and Gary Sandefur. According to McLanahan and Sandefur, children of single-parent households are at increased risk of dropping out of high school. In the book’s findings, boys tended to be idle and teenage girls had a greater risk of pregnancy. Overall, the chances of these children going to college were greatly diminished.
2019-08-20 19:43
"sure, how about those studies which claim that kids raised by single parents have issues? " What about them? No, political correctness doesnt bend science. The reason that there are so many studies on this is to make sure that there are no studies that might have been "bent" by science. If there was like 1 or 2, you could have your doubts, but the number seems to range in to the dozens. Afaik, when it comes to races, anthropologists say that there is no useful application for the word "race" when it comes to humans. Noone denies that some people are black, some yellow and some white. It just doesnt always make sense to use the word race.
2019-08-20 21:07
#273
ropz | 
Czech Republic rusteD 
there are clearly human races, i can fucking see it in my eyes, i see black, whites, yellows... even their fucking body shapes are different.
2019-08-20 22:41
Nobody denies that there are differences between humans. Not only did I just look the numbers up and not that many scientists actually deny the existence of races, but its just not a useful term because the diversity of humans is too large to make it possible to simply compartmentalize them. One example that shows how unusable your understanding of the term race is is this: "By analyzing the genes of present-day Africans, researchers have concluded that the Khoe-San, who now live in southern Africa, represent one of the oldest branches of the human family tree. The Pygmies of central Africa also have a very long history as a distinct group. What this means is that the deepest splits in the human family aren’t between what are usually thought of as different races—whites, say, or blacks or Asians or Native Americans. They’re between African populations such as the Khoe-San and the Pygmies, who spent tens of thousands of years separated from one another even before humans left Africa." So basically you have two black groups that probably look VERY much alike, but there are further away genetically from each other than a black guy to a white ginger irishman, even though they look more alike and live closer together. Racial categories are not the most useful or reasonable and thats why they arent used by the most serious anthropologists.
2019-08-21 11:59
no
2019-08-18 20:34
#45
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Peru AgentLF 
No, because there is no law to adopt children, just the right to be adopted. Kids should not be used just to satisfy an ideological movement, but to be protected as a Constitution says
2019-08-18 20:34
Are you gonna write something coherent at some point or not?
2019-08-18 20:45
#93
xsepower | 
Italy rad0r 
+1 godlike c mon guys you have literally no clue what are you talking about. If u had some studies you will know for sure that there is literally no proved differences between gay couples and straight ones. Same relationship problems, same bullying scene. The adoption should be in favor of the child. At least you can argue that the child, as a draw between couples, should decide for himself if capable to do so or given to a straight one. I can give you this. But just cause law is very influenced by moral standards that nowadays are very low tbh
2019-08-18 21:18
#167
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Russia npo_Nrpok 
Homosexuality is not ideology. Hell, women even being attracted to men at all with people like you arounf is proof sexuality is not a choice.
2019-08-19 02:14
#67
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Sweden flippig 
yes
2019-08-18 20:42
Why not?
2019-08-18 20:46
I think its something that needs more research. There is evidence to suggest "alternative family structures"(IE Homosexual couples) have a negative impact on children, but there hasn't been nearly enough studies done to make it definitive.
2019-08-18 20:49
NO! Gays can be good parents however enviroment will ruin that child because of his parents.
2019-08-18 20:58
There's a very simple reason why they should be able to legally adopt a child. And this reason is that in most countries a lone parent has the right to adopt a child Which means that homosexual couples already can adopt a child, but this situation puts major problems, because the child will be legally related to only one of the two parents, which means that if anything happens to the legal parent, the other one has absolutely no right to keep his child and the child will be entrusted to the family of the legal parent TLDR : homosexuals can already adopt since in most countries, a lone person can adopt a child. Problem is that the child will be the legal child of only one of the 2 parents. Giving gays the right to adopt just means fixing this shit
2019-08-18 21:13
+1
2019-08-18 21:21
Never
2019-08-18 21:19
No.
2019-08-18 21:20
Yes absolutely
2019-08-18 21:28
no lol, kids turn out fucked up enough as it is
2019-08-18 21:30
No. A baby/child needs the feminine side of the woman, and the masculine side of the man. Everyone who disagrees with that is delusional as fuck. Inb4 "hUrR dUrR X gReW uP wItHoUt Y aNd ItS aLl gOod". Fuck off, the amount of young men/women with daddy/mommy issues in this world is fucking crazy. Also the amount of "nice guys" that are brought up by single mothers and never get taught how to be around a woman properly is dangerous.
2019-08-18 22:48
if this isnt a bait the only other possibility is that u are from usa and your IQ is lower than the amount of chromosomes u have
2019-08-19 01:49
NO. KIDS GET BULLIED EVEN WITHOUT GAY PARENTS IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF KIDS KNEW THAT SOME RANDOM KID IN SCHOOL HAS GAY PARENTS
2019-08-18 22:50
+1 me and the boys would beat the shit out of this little cunt back in the days
2019-08-19 00:16
96 percent of the kids would.
2019-08-19 00:57
#105
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United States Tom_D_Cat 
Of course they should.
2019-08-18 23:01
for some reason i read the title as 'shroud married gays"
2019-08-18 23:47
How did we even get to this point?
2019-08-18 23:56
No lul
2019-08-18 23:56
No, ofc not
2019-08-18 23:57
No, they are statistically greatly predisposed to pedophilia. General perverted influence of a child is also unacceptable. They are better off in straight families or even child care.
2019-08-19 00:19
#164
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Other MrMerly 
either bait or actually legally retarded, not sure which
2019-08-19 02:05
its the second one
2019-08-19 14:50
#230
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Europe seeeed 
Most pedofiles are married to women and either molest their actual children or the children of their family lmfao.
2019-08-19 17:52
no cuz they might make a child gay as well (((
2019-08-19 00:22
No /closed
2019-08-19 00:24
who cares, if they are gonna be good parents then yes, it's better for that kid to be with them than to stay in the foster care and hate his life after
2019-08-19 00:27
Ya cuz he won't hate his life after being bullied day after day
2019-08-19 00:58
bullying in 2020? nt
2019-08-19 01:31
you're either baiting or you're not from this world
2019-08-19 02:26
+1
2019-08-19 09:16
yes ofc.
2019-08-19 00:29
#127
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
NO. A CHILD DESERVS BOTH PARENTS sry 4 capps
2019-08-19 00:30
#131
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
No, but i can do if they donate money to adopt an orphan or kids that really don't have a choice. Like idk it's a tough subject, to the question i awsner no, but beetween a gay parents familly and growing up in multiple famillies every week what is worst for the kid. Also a checkout need to be made, i don't mind day to day gay ppl, i despide the exentrics showing their ass in public infront of children at gay pride, defining themselves only as gay. > So no, but maybe if treated case by case.
2019-08-19 01:09
Who said they could marry? They shouldn't be allowed, let alone touching kids.
2019-08-19 01:17
#139
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United Kingdom Isquashua 
flag checks out
2019-08-19 01:44
#210
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Norway PeteZz 
Flag checks out really hard
2019-08-19 14:44
Remember this flag, when others fell, this will be the sign of yet sanity in the world.
2019-08-19 18:08
#135
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
I feel like almost all of them would fk up the kid in a way that you wouldnt be able to have a normal conversation with them without offending them
2019-08-19 01:33
#138
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United Kingdom Isquashua 
I think some kids might be bullied at school for it or feel different to everyone else. Missing a mother or father figure is a problem too. Not saying that 2 gay men / woman wouldn't be good parents tho.
2019-08-19 01:37
yes /closed
2019-08-19 01:44
expected from kid who doesnt even know the problems this shit will allow
2019-08-19 01:48
expected from 0IQ american who is being brainwashed by ur autistic politicians and news outlets
2019-08-19 01:51
So you would prefer to have kids being bullied and developing mental problems than them being happy and with a normal family?
2019-08-19 01:52
1. having 2 dads doesnt automatically mean u are bullied 2. this shit is already "normal" in many counties
2019-08-19 01:52
normal? what in the actual fuck
2019-08-19 01:53
well its legal and has been for some time in many countries and ppl doesnt view it "weird" or that there is anything wrong with it
2019-08-19 01:54
Its always weird don't bullshit me, it may be legal but it will always be weird no matter how many years pass it will never be normal to see a kid with 2 dads or 2 moms
2019-08-19 01:55
well.. keep living in your small minded bubble if its that big of a deal for you
2019-08-19 01:56
Imagine a kid enters in his dad and dad room and sees his dad fucking his dad in the ass lmao, I would be traumatized for life if that kid was me
2019-08-19 01:57
0/8 bait
2019-08-19 01:58
? i dont understand how this is a bait but ok
2019-08-19 01:58
have u ever thought that maybe u are just homophobic like most of the ppl who are against this
2019-08-19 02:00
I am not, I don't have a problem with guys or girls fucking each other, but I am against putting children into that shit
2019-08-19 02:01
#202
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United States 4PP135 
but seeing dad fucking mom isn't traumatizing at all? I walked in on that shit and I still think about it like 15 years later.
2019-08-19 14:18
Please tell me, was it cowgirl or doggy?
2019-08-19 14:51
with all the due respect.
2019-08-19 14:51
i think no because then the child will be very different from every other child who doesnt have gay parents and will be bullied and will have serious mental issues
2019-08-19 01:48
#231
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Europe seeeed 
Sorry but children raised in same sex families are no different from children raised in trad families lmfao. theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/..
2019-08-19 17:54
Yes but i think will be harder for it in life
2019-08-19 01:51
#157
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
couple issues with it - gays have far higher domestic abuse rates, especially lesbians - the child can be bullied for having gay children - it is unknown as to the effects of a lack of fully defined gender roles in a family (although fatherlessness is a very big problem)
2019-08-19 01:59
#158
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Portugal astacp 
yes if they pass serious psychological exames.
2019-08-19 02:00
#169
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United States Globebuster 
but they are gay... lul
2019-08-19 02:25
There are loads of children out there looking for loving homes so yes. Im 21, my parents have fostered children from the ages of about 7-16 since i was about 10 and the life they live being thrown from place to place is awful, 99% of them are grateful for any stable home that will look after them. One of the people we fostered was my best friend when his nan died and his mother didnt want him, he lived with us for about 4 years from the age of 14 to 18.
2019-08-19 02:05
no. they shouldnt even able to marry. a child needs the discipline and strength from the father and the love from the mother.
2019-08-19 02:06
#208
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Norway PeteZz 
Flag and religion checks out
2019-08-19 14:43
You're right.
2019-08-19 18:09
Not a fan of it tbh , especially by lesbian couples , often they force children to be vegans or mistreat the boys . saw some very disturbing stories , on the other hand it might be better for a lot of children that have no one than be in orphanage , so its complicated and situational I guess .
2019-08-19 02:07
Of course, how is that even a question? We're in 2019, not 1919
2019-08-19 02:21
#207
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Norway PeteZz 
Flag does not check out
2019-08-19 14:42
Dude there are a lot of bolsonaros here but I think brazil is gay friendly overall
2019-08-19 15:13
nah imagine being raised by gay parents knowing your fathers both , are fucking each other and moaning while taking it in the ass and you got to watch them in your 1 bed room apartament i mean "cozy apartament"
2019-08-19 02:34
No, they are selfish. No child wants to have gay parents.
2019-08-19 02:43
Is this concluded from statistics or any academic studies on gay-couple-adopted kids?
2019-08-19 14:07
Its logic, but if you're the one in a thousand who would want gay parents instead of a mom and a dad, I feel sorry for you since you're obviously mentally unstable
2019-08-19 14:40
#177
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Ireland DaFlame 
I wouldn't give my child to a gay couple, psychologically we don't know how it affects children for sure, but signs seem to point to the obvious, children need maternal AND paternal figures and role models in their lives. I'd love to see more research tho, and perhaps it'd be better than an orphanage, but I can say for 100% that giving a child maternal and paternal figures is extremely important for cognitive development.
2019-08-19 02:54
its straight people trying to keep their power over gay people. its sad and discriminatory
2019-08-19 09:20
Yes they should it is not our problem to get into others life
2019-08-19 09:23
#183
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Brazil LordQ 
afaik, 100% of the abandoned children were abandoned by heterosexual couples, hahaha. It's better to have a family than living on an orphanage. It's not like every single gay couple will be stupid and will make the child's life a hell on Earth.
2019-08-19 13:09
#233
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Europe seeeed 
+1
2019-08-19 17:58
#185
Boo | 
France mbl4 
I'm so tired I read this as "Shroud married gay"
2019-08-19 13:10
no
2019-08-19 13:15
#188
shAy | 
Norway Angodude 
Yes gay home > No home
2019-08-19 13:18
no
2019-08-19 13:21
Gay people is evolutions way of slowing down the rising population
2019-08-19 13:32
Aka social engineering way of depopulating the world
2019-08-19 13:55
no, that kid will grow up with mental disorders and die from overdosing drugs.
2019-08-19 13:36
#206
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Norway PeteZz 
What’s the problem. The earth is over-populated anyways
2019-08-19 14:42
the kid is the problem till it dies. there are better methods against overpopulation.
2019-08-19 14:43
you call them "marriage" so why cant.
2019-08-19 13:52
Funny to scroll down and see how 2. and 3. world countries are still insisting on "having control" over other people based on their sexuality. Yes they can be just as good parents as normal (divorce rates are lower and normally have a gender separation between them). Parents are being checked before adopting a child, which should allow them to adopt regardless of their skin color, sexual orientation or political beliefs.
2019-08-19 13:54
No, not mentally stable and likely to abuse the child
2019-08-19 13:54
Of course they should be able to adopt, but only if the child want to. But anyway it is very hard to get a permission to adopt, so sleep peacefully. Idiots, feminazis and the other mentally ill people won't get a child. At least until they make a child themselves, what can be some serious problem for them.
2019-08-19 14:27
#205
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Norway PeteZz 
Yes. And lesbians as well.
2019-08-19 14:41
of course
2019-08-19 14:45
They should after they go through the same tests and hurtles that straight couples have to go through , which , in many western countries are terribly wrong since they aproach mostly the economic and infrastructural enviroment when they should actually make a much deeper and extensive analysis on the couple's mental state and tendencies , going as far as to dive deep down into their subconscious.
2019-08-19 14:48
I think they should be able to,the kids are much better off with gay parents then with no parents at all
2019-08-19 14:55
No
2019-08-19 14:59
#222
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Sweden iskalliskall 
yes ofc.
2019-08-19 16:13
It depends tbh. If those people try to spread their shit wherever they can they I guess not, but if they know they are just like that and look into other people normally, then it is ok.
2019-08-19 17:51
#234
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Germany Merkelistan 
Probably better for a child to be adopted by gays than staying in orphanage till they are adults. I think they should be allowed.
2019-08-19 18:00
#240
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Finland ToxicDUD 
kids are observed to need both mother and father and every kid should have the right to both however if the option is gay parents or no parents I would choose gay
2019-08-19 18:42
#247
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Serbia d1ckson 
Yes
2019-08-20 18:36
No just have them yourself. That is the most natural way
2019-08-20 18:39
Should be the same as every family, see if the people are good caretakers and base it on that. Gay people are people
2019-08-20 18:50
Yes
2019-08-20 18:59
#258
b0RUP | 
Denmark Gryde 
ofc
2019-08-20 19:13
They shouldn't even marry
2019-08-20 19:14
#265
Theia | 
Germany Shanesz 
I dont think so, i feel like a child should grow up in a normal household with mum and dad, and not 2 dad's.
2019-08-20 19:35
Imagine 2 moms who are hot af, and they wouldn't be your biological moms. 10/10 :)
2019-08-21 12:02
#287
Theia | 
Germany Shanesz 
well, thats not the topic, so xd
2019-08-21 17:10
It's a possibility tho
2019-08-22 14:23
Its conflicting to me because the child is likely coming from a single mother or someone in college, either way that they can't really raise a child. I think homosexual parents would be better and at least provide a stable environment, but there is certainty more upsides to having both genders repped as parents. I would say yes, but priority to straight couples.
2019-08-20 19:39
no closed
2019-08-20 19:59
#274
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Brazil lordjasz 
+1
2019-08-20 22:43
#275
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Brazil lordjasz 
no way. next question
2019-08-20 22:52
Y
2019-08-21 12:04
#276
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Sweden Akoulad 
NEVER
2019-08-20 23:00
Yes /closed
2019-08-21 12:05
#283
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France kyojiNs 
I rather have two loving dads than a dad and a mother that hates me. Of course it should be allowed \close
2019-08-21 12:17
Yes, there is so much children that need a home, and gay people cant have babies, everything works for me
2019-08-21 17:16
Agreed
2019-08-21 17:18
yeah ofc, whats the issue?
2019-08-21 17:17
Some studies said people who grow up with 2 gay parents often gets abused and other psychological issues. But, on the other hand, probably most of them are fine and loving so i guess why not? Its better to have parents than not. As many children live without parents.
2019-08-21 19:38
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