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shroud | 
Argentina juanme555 
look at the comments wtf , i got flagged for saying that hatespeech shouldn't be outlawed , all of these Brasilian leftist are fucking deranged wtf? reddit.com/r/brasil/comments/csb0vm/libe..
2019-08-19 15:21
theres less than half Brasileiros subbed to that sub than the csgo sub , why aint right wing liberal brasileiros joining and fighting the shit out of these retards??? WTF?!?!??! this can't be let go....
2019-08-19 15:22
>why aint right wing liberal brasileiros joining and fighting the shit out of these retards??? Because the mods are center-left/leftists and they would outright ban you There's a liberal/right-wing brazilian subreddit, reddit.com/r/brasilivre
2019-08-19 17:12
deserved for using reddit
2019-08-19 15:23
did you change your name or did you get banned?
2019-08-19 15:23
#8
Ukraine 1024 
He has like 4 alts
2019-08-19 15:25
#11
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United States blessedUFC 
only 4 ? lmao
2019-08-19 15:28
#18
Ukraine 1024 
idk dog, I saw only like 4 unique accounts.
2019-08-19 15:30
#163
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Canada Aachen 
Expected from jonbonesjones
2019-08-19 17:16
Reported for multiaccounting, hope jonny e. imparts justice
2019-08-19 18:10
ROFL
2019-08-19 18:13
#25
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United States PsychoLogical 
he has alts for days.
2019-08-19 15:31
Psycho! you were supposed to keep pretending you can ignore me my guy.
2019-08-19 15:36
#40
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United States PsychoLogical 
Why would I bother responding to dumb posts? I've already had to deal with people like grenzor and Vix_NBK_FanBoy who are brainwashed bigots, dont need to fight more wars here.
2019-08-19 15:38
Wow.
2019-08-19 15:55
#87
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United States PsychoLogical 
yes such wow men.
2019-08-19 15:55
I dont try to bait you and i don't make dumb posts , i want you to be honest and consistent which since you're leftist , you never are. Also im no bigot....i only have 1 enemy , the left , just the one.
2019-08-19 15:57
#94
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United States PsychoLogical 
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Im no leftist, Im actually a moderate. In addition I'm fighting a two front war: against the bigoted left and the out of touch right. I've fought more with leftists than rightists anyway so calling me a leftist is just out of touch.
2019-08-19 16:00
You do realize that moderate = leftist statist without the social excesive legislation right?
2019-08-19 16:16
#166
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Denmark Notallama 
You do realize that "moderate" is not some universal thing that's applicable to the same extent of ideologies anywhere? If we're going by the pretext that he's American, then you would simply be wrong. A moderate American is the exact opposite. I'd happily explain why, but you are probably just trolling as usual.
2019-08-19 17:21
cringed
2019-08-19 17:27
#173
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Denmark Notallama 
Just about the quality of discussion I would expect from you. At least you're predictable.
2019-08-19 17:28
same can be said about you
2019-08-19 17:29
#175
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Denmark Notallama 
I argue for my case.... you throw mud. There's a reason why noone takes you serious. When you realize you're wrong, you start with the pathetic trail like your two replies there. You could have asked for me to explain why you're wrong, and suck it up, but instead you get mad at me for correcting you.
2019-08-19 17:31
Well , last times we argue all you did was act smuggy and kick the table , dunno where this is going , im not mad at all dog.
2019-08-19 17:45
#203
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Denmark Notallama 
You could say that. As soon as the other contributor to the discussion, in this instance you, strays from the argument and gets personal, I don't consider it an argument anymore.. hence my "smugness". This is another example of that. You instantly rejected a debate and went full retard "baited lmao" style, so I feel like I can call you an ignorant retard with no understanding of politics. Partly because it's true, and partly because you didn't even muster counter-arguing on a small level.
2019-08-19 18:23
i am NOT baiting , you're being paranoid , Psychological is a leftist , he supports big government , assistentialism , high taxes , high regulation and "free" stuff. He just wont call you a racist if you think that there should be borders , or wont call you a transphobe if you think trans men shouldnt compete with women in sports , he's very much a moderate , and like most moderates , he thinks hes not a leftist , i talked a lot with him , you're the one pulling this "when the other gets personal" , you're an idiot , you wont get my respect because having talked with you multiple times in the past , you're much more deserving of disrespect than even the benefit of the doubt , but since you're so low in the bottom of the food chain , i dont feel like talking shit on you .... pffff
2019-08-19 18:31
#215
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Denmark Notallama 
Nope, you're still not a "leftist" for supporting those means to equall wealth inequality. But the definition of "leftist" is so skewed now that you can basically just make up your own interpretation. As he already mentioned, moderates borrow ideals from both sides of the political spectrum to solve issues. This is the problem with biased, backwards, political thinking. What makes the "perfect" taxation rate? It's all brainwash. See the issue, see how it can be solved, implement. Stop going blindly for ideologies. Obviously the current issues in the United States calls for possible measures like; Higher taxes -for the richest. The top1% owns more than 60% of the wealth. Higher level of regulation -monopolies like Comcast can profit while being domestically hated. "Free stuff" -the health insurance situation is completely unstable. The pharmaceutical companies are heavily profiteering on inflated medication prices. Obviously not everyone agrees that those means are the best ways to solve the issues, but the issues are there.. and they are having an increasingly heavy impact on the American economy and health. Those are just the most conservative solutions, which happens to be associated with the left-wing. You absolutely have to be brainwashed if you can't see those as logical solutions, even if you don't agree with them.
2019-08-19 19:44
One thing i never understood about the more hardcore leftist types like you is , why are you all ashamed of claiming to be leftist???? don't you realize how shady that is??? you aint winning people over like that , you just basically said that statism doesn't make you leftist , im out bro.
2019-08-20 03:13
You’re an idiot.
2019-08-19 18:33
old news , i would expect so much better shit talk from a kangaroo.... DISSAPOINTED!
2019-08-19 18:34
Can’t win an argument so you dish out autism. Flag checks out.
2019-08-19 18:37
you got me there m8 , "you're an idiot" argument too op x_X i are dead now still pretty dissapointing shit talk for an aussie bro , you guys have some game there , do you go out?
2019-08-19 18:38
No, it’s a statement that’s clearly trying to be provocative and lead to an argument. Shit talk means nothing when you're an uneducated third world baiter.
2019-08-19 18:42
well if you so strongly disagree with something that seems so obviously wrong , you could just explain how is it wrong , i was honestly not baiting and im sorry if i came across as a dick , i though it was all good i know australians talk more bizarre and dirty like us , my bad brother. have a good one.
2019-08-19 18:44
#130
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Switzerland KICK_RPG_FFS 
is grenzor that UK autistic leftist?
2019-08-19 16:13
yes hes that autist sjw that goes racist racist when he’s likely some sad white dude that doesnt know what racism feels like or looks like.
2019-08-19 16:15
#139
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Switzerland KICK_RPG_FFS 
haha yea so im correct
2019-08-19 16:18
#54
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Brazil JMB_17 
tbf, only some subredits are cancer (like GlobalOffensive). but reddit comments are ALWAYS cancer. tip: if you want to use reddit, only subscribe to a few subs from things you like and never look at the comment section
2019-08-19 15:40
Some comments sections is also good but its rare
2019-08-19 18:27
#167
cocada | 
Brazil Xeruh 
+1
2019-08-19 17:21
stop being racist boludo))
2019-08-19 15:24
wtf? im not racist , if anything....a lot of these Brasilian leftist have been pretty xenophobic to me in the past , moron.
2019-08-19 15:25
true, brasilian leftists are only low life junkies who want drugs to be legal so they can smoke outside of the gang turf
2019-08-19 15:27
#34
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
Sounds legit to me. I would wanna do that too
2019-08-19 15:35
the problem is that they only want the free drugs and don't understand the other shit that will happen if they vote for a president who will legalize
2019-08-19 15:36
#47
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
legalizing ("soft") drugs sounds legit to me too. State would earn a lot of money. You would be able to actually know what you pay for. You are not forced to visit some dealers and do illegal shit. It has negative sides as well but I see more pros than cons. People are producing, buying and smoking weed anyways, no matter if it's illegal. Pretty stupid from the state to use money to fight it instead of earning money from it through taxes.
2019-08-19 15:39
#102
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United States gtmaniacmda 
I don't think he is saying that he is against legalization per se, just that a president that would legalize drugs probably has other, shittier ideas in his head that would come along with him
2019-08-19 16:01
#104
cyx | 
Germany Shadyy89 
yea makes sense after rereading his comment
2019-08-19 16:03
#5
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
free speech has limits btw
2019-08-19 15:25
#10
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
why would free speech have limits if it had limits it wont be called free speech
2019-08-19 15:28
you are free to say what you want but you will pay the consequences mens)))
2019-08-19 15:28
#19
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
true but you shoudnt fear if you say something unpopular
2019-08-19 15:30
yes i agree but its the world we live in
2019-08-19 15:31
#31
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
+1
2019-08-19 15:33
+1
2019-08-19 17:53
#14
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
well it has limits and its called free speech so
2019-08-19 15:28
#15
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
only usa have real free speech germany dont have freedom of speech i cant say i love hitler i will get fined or i will go to jail
2019-08-19 15:29
#20
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
"only usa have real free speech" freedomforuminstitute.org/about/faq/whic..
2019-08-19 15:31
#30
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
you know what i mean by real free speech dont try to change it they still can still say it
2019-08-19 15:33
#38
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
what do u mean "real free speech" ?? i just linked u an article which says that some types of free speech arent protected by the first amendment
2019-08-19 15:36
#50
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
not protected doesnt mean he can say it maybe in some states he will be arrested but in most he can say it without getting fined or arrested
2019-08-19 15:39
#56
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
ok so u basically agree that free speech in the us has limitations? good
2019-08-19 15:41
#59
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
never said it and i said HE CAN say it but he will get arrested in california probably because they have some stupid laws
2019-08-19 15:42
#63
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
so do u know in which states u can be arrested and in which ones u cannot?
2019-08-19 15:44
#66
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
from where i should know where u can be arrested for saying "Fighting words"
2019-08-19 15:46
#70
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
sorry i didnt understand ur comment, but the laws for hate speech apply in the entirety of the united states, not just selected states. "According to the Supreme Court of the United States, the U.S. Constitution protects free speech while allowing for limitations on certain categories of speech. Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) include obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, speech that violates intellectual property law, true threats, and commercial speech such as advertising."
2019-08-19 15:46
#72
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
then 1/4 of the country would be in jail "(and therefore may be restricted)" and still there is no protection from first amendment you can still say it but if someone does smth you cant sue or do anything with law
2019-08-19 15:51
#78
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
i dont think u read the categories of free speech which are not protected (or less protected) by law on my post above. the point is u can be prosecuted, fined, sent to jail when saying things mentioned above and btw u still havent explained what u mean by "REAL free speech" *edit to reply to ur edit if its not protected by the 1st amendment then yes u can try to sue them
2019-08-19 15:53
#83
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
maybe in california because they make stupid laws but not in others states Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) you can say and give me one proof that you can be sent to jail for this agree on your edit on this one
2019-08-19 15:56
#100
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
im not aware of how californian laws differ from other states, i just linked an article of types of speech not protected by the 1st amendment, which i guess (?) apply to all of the states, im not sure on that
2019-08-19 16:01
#103
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
i give you one law edition.cnn.com/2019/06/10/politics/cali.. i know cnn isnt good souce but there alot other sites
2019-08-19 16:02
#89
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters from Trump is he in jail?
2019-08-19 15:55
#95
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
no cus he didnt target a specific group or individual, u think if he said "i could shoot x (name) and still not lose any voters" he would get away with it?
2019-08-19 15:59
#97
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
ofc there alot people saying they are calling for violence on x person
2019-08-19 16:01
#98
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
doubt it, i guess we have to wait for it to happen to see 🤣
2019-08-19 16:00
#106
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
people on the left are calling for violence on trump supports or they commited violence on trump supports are they sent to jail i dont think so and look antifa they are causing violence but nobody is arrested
2019-08-19 16:04
#113
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
some of them have been arrested, all of them should be, so they are doing something illegal
2019-08-19 16:08
#117
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
but some of them are free and still doing it probably
2019-08-19 16:08
#118
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
yes i agree but it doesnt mean what they're doing is legal does it
2019-08-19 16:09
#121
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
it not protected but there is consequences
2019-08-19 16:10
#122
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
yea, exactly good we agree on that
2019-08-19 16:11
#125
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
+11
2019-08-19 16:11
#128
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
good talking to u, learned a couple of things i wasnt aware of, have a good day!
2019-08-19 16:12
why would free trade have limits if it had limits it wouldnt be called free trade but i cant sell uranium to iran why would freedom of religion have limits if it had limits it wouldnt be called freedom of religion but its not allowed to blow people up in the name of god etc
2019-08-19 15:30
#23
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
do usa have limits for religion?
2019-08-19 15:31
yes, for example look up what they did to the branch davidians
2019-08-19 15:31
#35
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
n the late 1980s, Koresh and his followers abandoned many Branch Davidian teachings. Koresh became the group's self-proclaimed final prophet. "Koreshians" were the majority resulting from the schism among the Branch Davidians, but some of the Branch Davidians did not join Koresh's group and instead gathered around George Roden or became independent. Following a series of violent shootouts between Roden's and Koresh's group, the Mount Carmel compound was eventually taken over by the "Koreshians". In 1993, the ATF and Texas Army National Guard raided one of the properties belonging to a new religious movement centered around David Koresh that evolved from the Branch Davidians for suspected weapons violations. It is unknown who shot first, but the ATF surrounded and tried to invade the home of the Branch Davidians. This raid resulted in a two-hour firefight in which four ATF agents were killed; this was followed by a standoff with government agents that lasted for 51 days. The siege ended in a fire that engulfed the Mount Carmel compound which led to the deaths of 76 Branch Davidians inside.[4][5]
2019-08-19 15:35
the more you know
2019-08-19 15:39
#53
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
saying there isnt freedom of religion is false
2019-08-19 15:40
there is, but its not absolute, you cant just have a shootout and not talk to the police because thats what your religion says you have to do
2019-08-19 15:40
just like being muslim doesnt make it legal to beat a woman
2019-08-19 15:41
#68
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
agree on this one
2019-08-19 15:46
Because what has limits isn't free trade , it's called Mercantilism which is somewhat similar but with some caveats. Freedom doesnt equal libertinage , freedom is allowed as far as you don't violate a third person's individual soverignty which includes their inherent human rights.
2019-08-19 15:31
and with hate speech people are causing other people to violate peoples individual liberties its just 1 more step
2019-08-19 15:33
It depends on the context , you can't claim corruption of institution on the basis of hate speech , you claim corruption of institutions when it is objective , then it is usually hate speech (not most times though).
2019-08-19 15:36
it is never objective
2019-08-19 15:42
it almost always is.
2019-08-19 15:50
literally impossible to say anything abjective about any statement made by a human being that isnt written down in logical notation or math
2019-08-19 15:55
all languages besides logic an math are inherently ambiguous and subjective
2019-08-19 15:55
#169
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Denmark Notallama 
Correct.
2019-08-19 17:24
#42
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
if you get offened by something that is your problem if someone calls me lets say stupid or retard or smth else i will not get offended i will ignore them
2019-08-19 15:37
im all for offensive speech hate speech has to be more than just offensive. it has to promote hate. for example, if someone put up posters nazi germany style with pictures of jews with bags of gold and hooknoses etc, that is hate speech, not because its offensive to jews, but because it could cause people to be violent towards them.
2019-08-19 15:43
#64
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
by your logic we shouldnt post guns because it could cause people to shot school or smth else
2019-08-19 15:45
yes, i think media glorifying violence and reporting on it 24/7 is one of the main causes of USA gun problem. besides the amount of guns themselves (1.2 per man, woman and child) and their low average IQ and high population density and inner city ghettos and drugs being illegal and a bunch of other reasons, all those hollywood movies and tv shows and news reports certainly have an effect.
2019-08-19 15:51
#79
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
look i agree on this but everyone can post anything even it very offensive
2019-08-19 15:52
So is Islam hate speech? Because Islamic teachings encourage Muslims to go do terrorist attacks. Is putting up anti police posters hate speech? Because many police officers have been killed by Americans radicalised by anti police rhetoric, here's an example en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_shooting_of.. The bottom line is literally anything which criticizes a group or person can be hate speech and can cause people to become violent, but the term is used as a political weapon to only crack down on right wing ideas.
2019-08-19 18:08
#162
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Portugal Yaxok 
Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction. I can say whatever I want without being locked up by the state. China, for example, has no free speech - if I say something against the government of Xi Ping I will be locked up and most likely killed.
2019-08-19 17:15
the "limits" you're thinking of go out of the free speech realm , therefore , they're not considered , i take it you're talking about screaming about bombs in an airport or something like that , that'd be corruption of an institution , it's you actively going out of your inherent human right to corrupt an institution obstructing thirds.
2019-08-19 15:30
hate speech that is aimed at causing violence is also corruption of an institution, the institution of rule of law and democracy
2019-08-19 15:31
#27
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
yes and there are laws for that so i dont know what he meant when he said "they're not considered" they're not considered by who?
2019-08-19 15:32
by him
2019-08-19 15:32
#43
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
ok irrelevant then
2019-08-19 15:37
it depends , if we're 2 private citizens and i decide to talk shit to you in the middle of a park , im not corrupting any institution , only if i really get into it after you've made it clear that you don't consent you can file me for harassment , which would be proper , but the harassment doesn't come from the speech itself , it comes from the fact that you stablished you didn't consent and i kept pushing you.
2019-08-19 15:33
but thats not hate speech. hate speech is in most countries defined very narrowly so that it applies, for example. to people with a large audience, like writers, politicians, bloggers, and they have to say they have an intent for this group of people, to hurt people of some minority or LGBT or whatever for example, donald trump says "mexico is sending murderers and rapists across the border" and then a right wing nutjob start shooting mexicans in El Paso, thats hate speech that led to violence in a pretty direct manner. but if i call some guy on reddit a bunch of swear words, thats not hate speech, because i dont have the expectation of having a big audience. even if that comment gets 1 million upvotes. i dont have that political responsibility this at least is how the law works in my country, obviously its slightly different everywhere, but the concepts are kind of the same. just like with death threats. there has to be an explicit intent and enough detail to make it plausible.
2019-08-19 15:38
Im not talking shit nor am i trying to provoke you , but if that's the way hate speech works in your country , it is your country who's in the wrong. The federal supreme court of U.S literally stablished that Hate speech is protected under the first ammandment , Trump can say whatever he wants about Mexicans (he was talking about MS-13 in that very interview that you are refering to) but the whole point is that MEXICANS CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT TRUMP INSIDE U.S SOIL. You'll never win the case of Trump inciting violence because it just nonsense , intention is the main factor to actually call corruption of institution on hateful speech , and Donald Trump's intention wasn't for anyone to go shot anyone ever, it isn't his fault if someone with mental problems decides to do that because he heard Trump saying something terrible about Mexicans , Just like you can't blame Bernie Sanders or AOC for radicalizing the Dayton shooter , he was a hardcore socialist , supporter of Bernie , Pelosi and Warren , anti inequality , anti oligarch and he went and shot up a mall , Do you think that Sanders , AOC , Warren and Pelosi should be put in jail for corruption of institutions if you were to jail trump for El Paso shooter????
2019-08-19 15:44
USA supreme court also ruled that inflammatory hate speech is not allowed, for example putting a burning cross in someones front yard is qualified as a form of speech and not allowed USA really doesnt have a fucking clue how to deal with this issue.
2019-08-19 15:45
Putting a burning cross on someone's front yard is a violation of private property in multiple levels.
2019-08-19 15:46
but also a form of speech, according to USA supreme court remember, these are the same guys who said corporations are people.
2019-08-19 15:59
>USA really doesnt have a fucking clue how to deal with this issue. Actually, they seem to be one of the few countries with any clue when it comes to this issue. There's no freedom of speech outside the US and a few other countries like Iceland
2019-08-19 17:18
in my country literally the only thing youre not allowed to do is deny the holocaust we also have politicians who want to cause violence with xenophobic and hateful comments. there are court cases but they dont get convicted because they are always clever enough to not say literally what they mean. just like trump. really its kind of scary and annoying how many parallells there are. i thought USA having such a history of racial violence would be better equipped to deal with this.
2019-08-19 17:23
"in my country literally the only thing youre not allowed to do is deny the holocaust" And you think that's good?
2019-08-19 17:26
no, i think you should be allowed to say that, pushing such a dangerous radical belief underground is only going to make it worse. it gives conspiracy theorists etc another reason to believe that the govt is hiding something about the holocaust or whatever. but if a politician then denies the holocaust and people start harassing jews, well that politician may have freedom of speech and it may be allowed to say it, but those jewish people also have rights, and then we would have another court case about it. to see who's rights are the most important in that case. thats why i think USA should also have a case about trump.
2019-08-19 17:33
There are no hate speech laws in the Netherlands? I thought that was the case
2019-08-19 17:35
yes but no one gets convicted for it. and you have to be very explicit to get convicted. we had a case where a politician publicly called for moroccan immigrants to be removed from the country. in this time there were incidents involving racist shit like 100 guys barbecuing pork meat in front of a mosque, attacks on mosques, etc. this started in 2014 and the case is still ongoing. the prosecutors have asked for a sentence of a fine of 5000 euro. its not just about hate speech but also discrimination. politicians arent allowed to single out groups of people like that based on their race or appearance or sexual orientation. we should be equal in the eyes of the government. here pull this through google translate: Hij die in het openbaar, mondeling of bij geschrift of afbeelding, aanzet tot haat tegen of discriminatie van mensen of gewelddadig optreden tegen persoon of goed van mensen wegens hun ras, hun godsdienst of levensovertuiging, hun geslacht, hun hetero- of homoseksuele gerichtheid of hun lichamelijke, psychische of verstandelijke handicap, wordt gestraft met gevangenisstraf van ten hoogste een jaar of geldboete van de derde categorie. Indien het feit wordt gepleegd door een persoon die daarvan een beroep of gewoonte maakt of door twee of meer verenigde personen wordt gevangenisstraf van ten hoogste twee jaren of geldboete van de vierde categorie opgelegd.
2019-08-19 17:42
of course this shouldnt be taken so far that no one dares to talk about racial issues anymore, like the fact that immigrants from certain countries in north africa are more likely to be convicted of crimes. that they are more often unemployed, etc. its important that we do talk about those issues. thats why i think its good that we have court cases about it, so that people talk about freedom of speech and how far it should be protected when it starts to infringe on other rights. it doesnt even matter if the guy gets convicted or not. 5000 euro is nothing for him, and his followers will continue to vote for him. rtlnieuws.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/47..
2019-08-19 17:48
donald trumps intention was very much for some mexicans to get shot so that less people would try to immigrate to USA im pretty sure its working too
2019-08-19 15:46
subjective , delusional , hateful and pedantic , now we should jail trump because you think his intention was for Mexicans to get shot but we shouldn't jail AOC , Sanders , Pelosi nor Warren because you think that their intention wasn't for a bunch of "Oligarchs , 1%ers" to get shot at the mall , how convenient , can you see why people say leftist aren't reasonable??? I don't even like nor support trump , but the mental gymnastics and just straight up lies your people will go to keep the orange-man-evil narrative going is extremely detrumental to whatever your cause is.
2019-08-19 15:49
he literally called mexicans rapists and murderers and someone shoots some. i dont recall bernie sanders calling wall street guys murderers. they are. literally. the blood of thousands on their hands, every one of them. but he didnt say that. he said they need to be regulated.
2019-08-19 15:52
He called the gangmembers of MS13 rapist and murderers , BECAUSE THATS WHAT THEY ARE , They hate them on Mexico , we hate them in Argentina and they are scared to shit of them in Bolivia and Paraguay , you don't recall Bernie Sanders talking shit about wealthy people who might be shopping at a very nice looking mall in an all-white neighbour???? you're talking with the wrong guy here sway.
2019-08-19 15:55
bernie sanders didnt call anyone rapists and murderers, not any part of the population of the USA and certainly not all the population of mexico trump wasnt just talking about 1 gang, he said "mexico is sending their murderers and rapists across the border"
2019-08-19 15:57
now you can say that this is just trump being illiterate and having a 100 word vocabulary but i find his wording to be very convenient
2019-08-19 15:57
Hold on then sway....what is the actual wrong doing here??? radicalizing people onto doing certain things or the actual words that made mentally insane people go do mentally insane shit???? because if radicalizing a mentally insane leftist to go shoot up a bunch of innocent wealthy or maybe even not so wealthy people at a mall ISNT ENOUGH to jail the protagonists of the DNC , then you cant jail Trump for it neither , you're saying some extremely anti-human shit right here , i want you to take a few seconds before start typing the next reply because i don't think you're aware of what you're saying bebe.
2019-08-19 16:01
if you can link me some articles about bernie sanders talking about rich people in malls being murderers and rapists, i will gladly concede this point
2019-08-19 16:05
and bernie sanders didnt tell his followers to go shoot anyone
2019-08-19 15:46
Donald Trump didn't tell his followers to go shoot anyone neither , what are you saying my guy????
2019-08-19 15:49
he did say that though, right in between the lines and after it happened he gave his neo nazi followers a thumbs up snopes.com/fact-check/orphan-thumbs-up/ "theres good and bad people on both sides" is another good example of trump supporting right wing political violence
2019-08-19 15:54
#109
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
bad bait i can link you photo with obama smiling but i dont think with thumbs up and ofc there are good one bad people on both sides
2019-08-19 16:05
trump said "there are good and bad ppl on both sides" after a right wing terrorist attack en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlottesville_ca.. there were no attacks from anyone that could be considered left at that time. in that case there were in fact, only bad people on trumps side. this is the first time i truly saw donald trump as a fascist. and he hasnt proven me wrong since.
2019-08-19 16:08
#119
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
not every right winger is terrorist and not every leftist is terrorist ofc they are normal people on both sides
2019-08-19 16:10
in this case there was 1 terrorist on the right
2019-08-19 16:11
When he said the good and bad people on both sides he was talking about the people protesting about the demolishion of historic statues , the actual protest was about that did you know? the nazi rally came later and it was intially smaller , the protest was about normal regular people who didn't want to demolish the statues of historic figures because they were bigoted , which guess what , if they were actually to do that , they'd have to tear down every state of an historic U.S figure down , he wasn't talking about the nazis , why dont you watch the full interview???
2019-08-19 16:06
#116
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
+1111 alot media mislead people on this
2019-08-19 16:08
yes, you
2019-08-19 16:11
#132
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
nope i watch alot news and i research
2019-08-19 16:14
and yet you are still misinformed
2019-08-19 16:14
bullshit politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/201.. you cant lie about this kinda stuff man its 2019 people transcribe those speeches
2019-08-19 16:10
#124
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
i can link you video from socialist liberal who debunked this
2019-08-19 16:11
its a literal transcription of what trump said word for word
2019-08-19 16:12
when the nazis ordered the holocaust, do you think hitler said to his generals "hey guys i want you to completely exterminate the jews"? no, he said something like "im sure you will find the final solution to the jewish problem." and everyone got the hint. and they gave the same kind of vague instructions to their lieutenants, so that they couldnt get convicted for war crimes at neurenberg. at least they hoped. so when donald trump calls foreigners murderers and rapists, some people get the hint. you dont have to literally say something to say it and get the meaning across.
2019-08-19 16:04
#112
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
where trump called foreigners murders i remember he called m-13 murderers and rapist
2019-08-19 16:06
funny how you right wing guys always remember the same very specific things wrong when generally you have a pretty good memory
2019-08-19 16:17
#142
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
i am not right winger i am central left but i am not delusional how the world is as i said i make alot research and watch alot news and but look at this “They’re sending people who have lots of problems and they’re bringing their problems with us. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.”
2019-08-19 16:21
"What can be simpler or more accurately stated? The Mexican Government is forcing their most unwanted people into the United States. They are, in many cases, criminals, drug dealers, rapists, etc." you cant be a politician and say something like that and not expect anyone to die because of it.
2019-08-19 16:23
#146
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
you can be politician and say this that why trump got elected his personality he isnt afraid to say anything they what about warren sanders harris and others without biden
2019-08-19 16:26
yes, and he also isnt afraid to get people killed with his big mouth
2019-08-19 16:27
#149
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
about aoc calling violence against people? or omar? or others?
2019-08-19 16:29
sorry i didnt hear about that, source please?
2019-08-19 16:30
#154
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
maybe i am wrong about aoc but ilhan there there is more probably but i dont want to search twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin/status/11558977..
2019-08-19 16:47
well thats a good way to fuck up your political career in one retweet
2019-08-19 16:48
Donald Trump only called the Mexican criminals rapists and muderers , its easy for you to defend them when you dont have to deal with them over there in Nederland....you should honestly be ashamed.
2019-08-19 16:08
lol we have the mocro mafia over here, live hand grenades on shop doors in amsterdam every week, you dont know much about my country
2019-08-19 16:14
trump literally said that the mexican govt is sending bad people to the USA. i see that as a direct call to arms. raising a posse like its the wild west to shoot some injuns
2019-08-19 16:16
Mexico lets their big time gang players out of the justice , a lot of departments , specially the CDM one are so corrupt that they bring the gang members to U.S Border , so even if Trump was refering to the Mexican GOVERNMENT bringing gangsters in , he wouldn't be wrong at all , but that WAS NOT WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT , gang members in cost states from Mexico , Honduras and El Salvador have been doing terrible shit for years , its insanity.
2019-08-19 16:18
so, because other people do bad things, trump must motivate his followers to become vigilantes and kill people? whats that going to accomplish?
2019-08-19 16:20
#143
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
Twitter account 'liked' El Paso-related tweets In the hours before the Dayton shooting, the Twitter account "liked" several tweets about a shooting in El Paso that left 22 dead, including one supporting gun control and others that called the El Paso shooting suspect a "terrorist," and a "white supremacist." The account retweeted messages supporting Sens. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, as well as posts against ICE agents, including one that said, "these people are monsters," and multiple posts condemning police, and supporting Antifa protesters, who often use violent tactics.
2019-08-19 16:23
ok so? im not calling trump a fascist because of the people that support him. im calling him a fascist because of what he said and his refusal to distance himself from other fascists. im pretty sure if you ask elizabeth warren or bernie sanders they wont support those actions. when asked, trump cant say he is against it without also blaming some other fictional people. because that is another signal to his fascist followers that they should continue what theyre doing.
2019-08-19 16:29
yes this is the first time he has publicly said something like this after 4 years of hateful rhetoric. his handlers finally convinced him that he needed to do it to get re-elected.
2019-08-19 16:33
if he meant it he wouldnt have waited until election year to denounce this type of racist violence
2019-08-19 16:34
That's not what he was trying to do , at some point you're just done with it , have you got any clue how immigration was before Obama got to power? Latinos from all of the American continent could get legally into U.S like it was nothing and a bunch of Mexicans were still crossing ilegally , so Obama got in and decided to go all out big dick and started imposing a bunch of policies that made immigration more selective , that's pretty much when latinos without education nor money stopped being able to get in legally , the mexican government has always been in complicit with the cartels , and they then scalated things to the level you see now , for how much long U.S must pretend like everything is okay??? absolute nonsense.
2019-08-19 16:59
they dont have to pretend its okay, they dont have to let everyone in, just make sure that law and order is maintained and there is a civil discussion in politics. when politicians start using extreme terms, people take extreme actions. there will always be another crisis, especially in a country as big as the USA
2019-08-19 17:06
you are aware that leftist dont want the federal and state border and immigration laws to be enforced because they think that these illegal Mexicans will vote for them right?
2019-08-19 17:48
im pretty sure illegals arent allowed to vote, especially now that a lot of southern states have voter ID that should not be a problem
2019-08-19 17:49
Illegals are allowed to vote on multiple levels, in some sanctuary cities they shouldn't be but they're and their votes get accounted for in district level. Just letting you know , if you said you think illegal immigrants shouldn't be allowed to vote , the very politicians you're cringeworthingly defending right now would label you a racist xenophobe.
2019-08-19 17:51
who cares, american politics is completely fucked. i never said i would support the democratic party. they are exactly as corrupt and corporate as the republicans and they lie more about it. any candidate who doesnt fit in this picture is buried by superdelegates like sanders in 2016. fuck those guys. but, im not sure i believe that they truly say illegals should be allowed to vote. maybe they mean that some illegals should get pardons and an ID card and then be allowed to vote= i think it would be really hard to get any traction in southern states by saying illegals should be allowed to vote lol.
2019-08-19 17:54
Man i can tell you don't have bad intentions , though you have a serious amount of resentment repressed. I can tell you want to be a man but im not sure what's stopping you , why are you afraid. I can picture you so clearly , you can be a great guy , i hope one day you grow out of leftism but you're too far in atm , dunno if theres a way back at your level.
2019-08-19 17:58
man, i can think that about you too. but you know what, people arent crazy because i dont agree with them. they grow up in different circumstances, with different assumptions and opinions. except for americans, they put fluoride in their drinking water
2019-08-19 18:02
#49
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Brazil JMB_17 
no it doesn't
2019-08-19 15:38
#52
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Cyprus Swishh_ 
yes it does
2019-08-19 15:40
XD
2019-08-19 15:25
maybe youre wrong then
2019-08-19 15:28
It doesn't matter if you think something it's "hate speech", everyone should be alowed to say anything they want. They also don't have the right to complain if they got ostracized because of what they say.
2019-08-19 15:34
#41
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Brazil Belgrade 
A lot of the brazilians moved to /r/Brasilivre since the mods from /r/Brasil started to ban everyone who goes against their liberal agenda.
2019-08-19 15:37
LEFTIST AGENDA**** Paulo Guedes is Liberal , please let us not corrupt the meaning of Liberal in Brasil as well.
2019-08-19 15:38
#61
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Brazil Belgrade 
liberal in us = lefties
2019-08-19 15:44
in USA literally everyone is liberal
2019-08-19 16:01
#107
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United States gtmaniacmda 
the two words get conflated a lot here, yes but they really don't mean the same thing
2019-08-19 16:05
#76
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Brazil JMB_17 
yes, I'm banned from r/brasil as well
2019-08-19 15:50
i've gotten temporally banned multiple times there , because of the name of the sub i assumed it was going to be the realest and most useful sub , but all i saw was an alt leftist echo chamber , sad cuz i wanted to polish my portuguese typing before moving to Brasil but once they saw im a hardcore Liberal (Livertario) they all just mocked my typos in portuguese and i had to resort to English because they knew who i was and it'd all become about "shit , u gotta learn how to type"
2019-08-19 15:54
#91
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Brazil JMB_17 
yea, they're really shitty human beigns. Most brazilians don't use reddit, so the only 2 "big" subrredits are r/brasil and r/BrasilLivre (which is more of a right wing sub cuz all the banned people from r/brasil go there).
2019-08-19 15:57
im joining BrasilLivre.
2019-08-19 17:03
#46
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Brazil JMB_17 
KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK If you're not banned from r/Brasil you're definetly a communist. That shit is a fucking bubble, you can get banned for anything there
2019-08-19 15:38
#48
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South Africa bonkaz 
Snowflake, stop being a bitch
2019-08-19 15:38
#110
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Brazil 808080 
That sub is pozzed now, and their discord server is even worse. Literally debating communism and other crap there, and gl if you have any opposing views, you'll get instabanned. It used to be a decent sub a few years ago, but then some r/BrasildoB (leftist brazilian sub) members basically infiltrated as moderators on r/Brasil, and that sub went down. People tried moving to r/brasilivre, but the mods there are fucking cucks as well. Reddit is a lost cause, and the hive mind system (upvotes/downvotes) makes it even worse.
2019-08-19 16:06
Whats the problem in being a cuck ?
2019-08-19 16:23
#184
csr | 
Brazil 808080 
nt italo-paulista
2019-08-19 17:46
r/brasil is disgusting it's full of braindead garden variety progressives and the mods are really uppity
2019-08-19 17:09
That sub is full of extreme left thought. Anything that Goes even slight to The right will get you banned. People have been banned for years there, staying only those that follow left thought. You cant even disagree with someone. That sub to me ilustrates perfectly what fascism and leftist agenda wants to implement on freedom of speech and thought. That sub is orwell 1984. You should look for r/brasilivre
2019-08-19 17:12
imagine discussing in /r/brasil lol /r/brasilivre >>>>>>>>>
2019-08-19 17:19
=D
2019-08-19 17:28
#177
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Reunion 1iquser 
reddit fag omegalul. bet you browse their child porn library as well
2019-08-19 17:35
I used to barelly use reddit , i really only got more because of amd ryzen 3000 and sometimes csgo , but i thought that the Br reddit was going to be useful , it barelly was. You make that edgy pedo shit joke in person in front of me and i'll slap that bread-looking faggy white flagger cheek of yours monami.
2019-08-19 17:49
#194
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
ahahaha bet you're a 14 y/o kid wasting his entire day on hltv ahahah oh what anonimty does to a person
2019-08-19 18:08
im not annonymous , i have a serious hltv addiction though. check my twitter you can find me irl whenever you want. I didnt really use reddit but i was interested in that topic so i followed that , dunno whats so outrageous about that , you're making edgy pedo jokes and you say "oh anonimty" (couldnt even spell anonymity properly) ... pfff you're a joke of your own self , which seeing your flag....isn't surprising , comrade.
2019-08-19 18:05
#197
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Reunion 1iquser 
maybe thats called a typo? dumbass. also pedos are meant to be laughed at. if you're so afraid of laughing at pedophiles, maybe you're the pedo? 🤔
2019-08-19 18:07
nah i just dont fuck with some shit , i also don't find trans and gay jokes particularly funny , does that make me trans and gay???? where is this going??? you dont have shit talk game wtf are you doing , you think you're being the Napoleon of HLTV but ur being SmithZz right now.
2019-08-19 18:12
#202
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
idiot that's reunion 😂😂😂 most people who hate jokes about taboo topics, they're hiding that taboo. are you? 🤔
2019-08-19 18:21
i seriously dont think that homo , trans and pedo is taboo , at least not in the west.
2019-08-19 18:27
#178
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Brazil RAYRELiCK 
Reddit = cancer brasilian reddit = super cancer
2019-08-19 17:35
#182
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Brazil Gn_1 
r/brasilivre >>>>>>>>> r/brasil
2019-08-19 17:45
Brasil livre rejected me :'( e porque eu so Argentino?
2019-08-19 17:46
You need to suck Bolsonaro's dick first before enjoying their circle jerk sub
2019-08-19 18:24
The country is so polarized ATM, /brasil and /brasilivre are both full of radicals.
2019-08-19 18:00
#214
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Argentina EnvyJ 
Reddit in 2019 lmao
2019-08-19 18:49
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