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liquid era?
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United States EZ_FOR_NINJAS 
what does liquid need for an era? is the major enough? does the intel grand slam make it an era already? can liquid beat the astralis era?
2019-08-21 02:15
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mibr era in 2 monthos ll start
2019-08-21 02:16
kng era
2019-08-21 02:31
#16
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Germany DannyLog 
Xaxaxaxaxa BIG ERA STARTING SOON
2019-08-21 02:48
#55
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North America pureG0D 
no bug no win bro :D
2019-08-21 22:54
mibr era coming son
2019-08-22 07:32
#93
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United States rad1ey 
prove it or i kill you
2019-09-06 21:46
Either the major or another period of dominance after the major. If they win the major, and fall of to MIBR-levels right after, I wouldn't consider them to have an era. No, yes.
2019-08-21 02:17
#3
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Canada Michaelides 
The Major cements their era. Everyone who disagrees is delusional considering previous eras.
2019-08-21 02:20
#21
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Austria I_love_Hltv 
+1
2019-08-21 04:19
They've only been number 1 for a few months, you might want to reread the definition of era
2019-08-21 04:20
so what if they won 3 majors in 3 months? what would u call it?
2019-08-22 07:19
some random wins i believe xd
2019-08-22 07:52
Time travel
2019-08-22 08:31
they've been #1 for what, 3 months? how the fuck is that an era lmao
2019-08-21 04:56
#32
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Canada Michaelides 
What would you consider it then if they won the major? They won 6 big events in a row.
2019-08-21 05:11
#88
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African Union OllieMaN 
no major no era end of discussion
2019-09-06 21:22
Astralis didn’t have a era until they won the grand slam according to people
2019-08-22 07:26
Paleozoic era >>> all csgo eras combined
2019-08-21 02:20
#15
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Belgium ZxTox 
Mesozoic bestest mens))
2019-08-21 02:35
Mesozoic best era Paleozoic longest era ))
2019-08-21 18:54
Pre-Cambrian rules them all
2019-08-22 08:00
#5
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Liquid could win the next 12 events in a row and EU haters would still say no era. They will never admit a Liquid/NA team era.
2019-08-21 02:20
#7
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
Its not as long as the Astralis, or Fnatic or NIP ERA By that Logic FaZe and LDLC Also had an era...
2019-08-21 02:23
#9
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United States EZ_FOR_NINJAS 
true, the liquid success has certainly not been as long as astralis, fnatic, or nip, but i think if they can keep this up they can match at least a nip era
2019-08-21 02:27
#10
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
Ye i think if they dont win the major and still win a couple of events it might be an era
2019-08-21 02:27
#14
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Canada Michaelides 
Difference between FaZe and Liquid is that Liquid has won 6 Big Events in a row and are the favorites for the Major. FaZe, at the time of their dominance, won ELEAGUE Premier 2017 and ESL One NY 2017 consecutively. They then came 2nd at Pro League, Oakland, and 3rd at Blast Copenhagen before finally winning another event, which was ECS S4 Finals. They then came 2nd at the Boston Major and IEM Katowice. Olof takes a break after repeated final failure, and the story continues. Massive difference between FaZe's and Liquid's dominance. You are correct that it hasn't been too long, but I don't see why that can't still be an era with how much they have won. I'd say the major victory cements the era.
2019-08-21 02:38
#79
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Russia Islademuerto 
2016 fnatic won 6 events in a row still no era
2019-08-22 08:10
i mean you can debate that the six events was a continuation of the fnatic era like late 2014 fnatic era starts through 2015, pronax leaves, fnatic era is 'over' they get dennis and win 6 events in a row right after.
2019-08-22 08:28
by that logic then TSM had an era in 2015. i mean, that is fine by me
2019-09-06 21:42
only real era is sodaH era
2019-08-21 02:23
#8
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Mongolia ENCEphalon 
ence era starts with the major
2019-08-21 02:25
#11
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United States EZ_FOR_NINJAS 
nt baiter. in all seriousness ence is a solid team but they just cannot compare to liquid, astralis, fnatic, or even nip.
2019-08-21 02:28
#73
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Finland PsyChoPatHH 
Well thats just wrong nip is not anywhere near ence
2019-08-22 07:40
mot right now
2019-08-22 08:10
#13
ScreaM | 
Dominican Republic casxd 
Yeah, we will get a liquid era when the north pole unfreezes
2019-08-21 02:32
#20
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United States duckmaster45 
well... might be pretty soon
2019-08-21 04:13
#17
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Brazil FxckMendonca 
i like eras that have major wins, makes it look better you know? and their "era" is still short, they've only dominated for 8 months now i wanna see them 1 year of dominance mens
2019-08-21 04:02
Fact: They made it to the finals of every big event they attended aside from the major in 2019. Fact: They are currently on a 5 big event winning streak. Fact: They have won 8 big events this year. Is that not an era to you?
2019-08-21 04:07
I feel like the 'aside from the major' line is quite important here.
2019-08-21 04:09
What is an era to you? To me, it's an era of dominance where 1 team is far better than everyone else and dominates the scene. If you think Liquid hasn't done that you are literally insane.
2019-08-21 04:50
You can't dominate the scene if you fail to win the most important tournament. We can talk after Berlin.
2019-08-21 05:08
I guess winning basically everything isn't dominating the scene. Very sound logic.
2019-08-21 05:13
B A S I C A L L Y
2019-08-21 17:25
So by your logic you're saying that since s1mple didn't win a major in 2018, he wasn't dominating the scene back then.
2019-08-21 22:57
#70
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United States Jamila 
Say this to NiP who couldn't win either major they attended during their era despite being the best team
2019-08-22 07:32
NIP era was before the majors.
2019-08-22 07:40
well then they should have won a major
2019-08-22 08:30
No it's not and stop faking facts. How did they win 8 big Events this year when they "only" won 7 Events this year, including ibp Masters, iem sydney. So still worse than SK in 2k17. They have a pretty impressive run rn and the best conditions to get a era, but dont try to make them look better than they are.
2019-08-22 00:53
Oh i also forgot about blast, so it's 4 big Events this year, but np, lets call every Event a big Event ;)
2019-08-22 08:23
No
2019-08-22 08:33
#23
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Brazil Beckermonster 
liquid will beat the astralis era, they're so much better
2019-08-21 04:21
true....
2019-08-21 04:22
no major no era
2019-08-21 04:24
#27
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
pretty much
2019-08-21 04:53
Astralis time at #1: 86 weeks - 3 majors total, 2 back to back. Intel Grand Slam. Liquid time at #1: 12 weeks - no majors, Intel Grand Slam. ??? Are you Liquid fanboys delusional or what? No one will ever touch Astralis' era.
2019-08-21 05:01
Doesnt mean Liquid doesnt have an era If you compare Astralis to Fnatic, SK, any other team with an era, they get blown the fuck out of the water At least Liquid is breaking some of their finals records or if not getting close, thats a feat itself. Pretty much every single analyst considers Liquid era to be a thing, all I see is random hltv threads saying Liquid doesn't have one, so nt Dane
2019-08-21 05:02
An era without a major? Lol no. They've been #1 for 12 weeks. Berlin will be the defining factor for me.
2019-08-21 05:27
Okay, so therefore NiP era didnt exist, 87-0 but no major. 2 major finals, no major though, so no era, NiP no era guys LULW Before you say NiP won a major, they won in 2014 after their era when they were #3 so NT You don't need a major for an era, and a grand slam is certainly more prestige than a major, 4 Intel/ESL/DH Masters events in a row, and one being ESL Cologne, hasn't placed anything except top 2 besides Katowice, past 7 events win 6, no era btw. Not even Astralis won that much
2019-08-21 05:41
The only reason why NiP pulled a 87-0 lan map streak is because they barely had any competition besides VeryGames. NiP took the game serious from day one compared to every other team and they were shitting on subpar teams, their era is not relevant in comparison to fnatic, SK or Astralis. Same for majors. In my opinion Liquid's current streak is more impressive than NiP 87-0 on LAN, Liquid is shitting on top tier teams whilst NiP were shitting on dog shit teams that barely had played the game much at all back then, at least that was when they racked up most of their LAN map wins. In today's competitive environment you certainly do need a major due to the prestige it holds to cement your era. They've been dominating for 8 months even though they didn't achieve much from late January 2019 until IEM 2019 in May, that's a dry streak of 4 months in their "era" year. If they flop on the finish line now for the major, 2019 can still be considered their year, but I don't consider teams to have had an era without a major win during their year of dominance. Anyways, don't take it personal. I don't really care what Thorin or other analysts say, I'm just giving you my opinion.
2019-08-21 06:54
So lets say they make it to the finals and lose the major to lets say Vitality or Astralis. Then they win New York, Malmo, and their EPL group in the same way they've been winning events is that not an era? Also, how do you scale the Intel Grand Slam compared to a major, I think the Grand Slam shows much more consistency and the way they won it was so dominant, 63 days 4/4 tournaments is crazy when even Astralis did it in 4/10.
2019-08-21 22:18
Intel Grand Slam is probably more valuable than the major indeed. But think of the fact that Astralis won Intel Grand Slam as well as 2 majors in the year they dominated, and even after they won their first major a lot of people still didn't consider them to have an era, it was first when they won Intel Grand Slam and had one major under their belt that people started acknowledging their era. All in all Liquid "only" won events in a period of 4~ months consider the dry streak from january to May and they've only been #1 on HLTV for 12 weeks roughly. They still don't have a major. If they fall short in Berlin as in they don't make top 4, I personally still don't think they have an era yet. If they make top 2 and dominate the rest of year I'd say it definitely is up for debate by then. If they win the major then it doesn't matter how well they perform the rest of the year, then they would have cemented their era in my opinion.
2019-08-21 22:49
#35
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Canada Michaelides 
Astralis won 2 Majors during their era, not 3. Liquid is gonna struggle with the back2back major shit since they gotta win Berlin, and then the next scheduled major isn't until next May. That's a long time, and fucks with it a little bit. The timing of Liquid's dominance has bad timing in accordance with Majors.
2019-08-21 05:16
I know they won 2 during their era (back to back), but their third was also done with 80% of the lineup. Just saying that they have 3 in total while Liquid have none. I'd only consider Liquid to have an era if they win a major during their peak, so in my opinion it all comes down to this major. Certainly they're nowhere near the dominance of Astralis yet.
2019-08-21 05:26
#38
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Canada Michaelides 
Agreed.
2019-08-21 05:27
Liquid are already better than the astralis era
2019-08-21 05:13
#36
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Canada Michaelides 
Not yet my guy.
2019-08-21 05:17
It's already happened.
2019-08-21 23:10
#42
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Algeria abdodz45 
0/8
2019-08-21 05:36
Nope. Liquid's more dominant than Astralis were. They've smashed their win streak already.
2019-08-21 23:05
#59
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Canada Michaelides 
Yes, but they have no majors yet.
2019-08-21 23:11
And?
2019-08-22 06:25
#40
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Sweden xLucah 
they are trash
2019-08-21 05:34
#41
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Algeria abdodz45 
it still 50 50 all they need now is a major in their pocket and then we start calling it ERA
2019-08-21 05:36
#44
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France Zyw0o1v9 
Please don't forget to boost GTR.
2019-08-21 06:05
no /closed
2019-08-21 17:27
imo for a team to have an era is 1 Good on big events before or/and after a major 2 a major win So just because you win a Major you don't get an era but you need a major to have an era like Fnatic,Virtus.pro, NiP, Luminosity/SK and Astralis So to answer the question if thy win the major yes thy have an era (The IGS is not era define since started in 2017 or 2018)
2019-08-21 17:48
>Virtus Pro >Era Pick one also nip major was when they were shit. Their era finished in late 2013 around the first major...
2019-08-22 08:34
There isnt liquid era. There was astralis era. When liquid win a major, we can talk about liquid era. For now there isnt eras running.
2019-08-21 18:55
Winning a major, and doing this for a long time. The've only been the best for a few months, how can they have an era
2019-08-21 18:57
#54
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Malta ciORAN_NT 
Of course they need to win a major to set their era on. However, I think that to speak of an era they need to show some dominance for at least four or five months.
2019-08-21 22:53
Obsession of eras are weird.
2019-08-21 23:11
2 majors in a row
2019-08-22 06:36
#64
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United States JustBitsy 
Most teams don't get an era, you need to be dominant for a long time. Come in to tournaments for months as a favorite and win it convincingly. If there is anyone that makes your matches really competitive and challenging for top1 or if you are dropping group stage map bo1s you can't really call it an era. Of course you need to be an unrivaled top1 for I would say a year. First season, dominant then in next season you pick up right where you left off. Then start the next year still looking strong and super competitive. You cannot just drop off out of nowhere and start losing to teams outside of say top5-10 depending on how the state of all teams feels like. Example faking NRG was top5 and in no way did they ever prove they were a top5 team... I wouldn't say both majors in a year is absolutely necessary, but at the same time if you are going to majors and making playoffs but not winning and its supposedly your "era" that is not a good sign at all... Short answer: Give it more time and maybe they can do it. Astralis have proven it is still possible no doubt in my mind.
2019-08-22 06:52
#65
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Other Darge 
Liquid has pretty much done the same than dennis Fnatic, a team that doesn't even get into the "Fnatic era". You need time, a short period of dominance is far away from an era.
2019-08-22 07:14
#67
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Canada kniGhtlife 
Liquid needs this major. I'm convinced. I really hope they get it to solidify their stance vs the many EU doubters - who don't want to see an NA era. Liquid is literally the Scipio Africanus of CSGO - with the jealous old school patrician elite (EU) not wanting change and hating on them for their success and how they change the game.
2019-08-22 07:25
1. Liquid doesnt have an era, atleast not yet 2. They Will Never beat Astralis era
2019-08-22 07:33
#74
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Finland PsyChoPatHH 
no one will beat astralis era for a while and if they didnt stop going to events their era could have been the best there ever will be
2019-08-22 07:47
People already call it an Era for its dominance. They were just unbeatable in the last events and I think that even Astralis didn't have so many maps won in a row. They have no weaknesses and can play like whatever they want. A Major win will certainly cement their era. (Not that I agree with it, but it will).
2019-08-22 08:08
#86
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Israel OKOptimistic 
they have to keep it up for 4 years then maybe it will be an era
2019-08-22 08:35
#87
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Denmark ntnoscene 
nope, Liquid can't win Astralis era
2019-09-06 21:21
#89
allu | 
Switzerland Jeded 
No major no era, sure they won 6 big events but they were against trash teams in the playoffs.
2019-09-06 21:25
#90
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Europe Conq 
Era ? without major ? lul na cs
2019-09-06 21:28
#92
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United Kingdom ExCeL1234 
To beat the Astralis era they will have to maintain their dominance for as long as Astralis but also show more talent beyond individuals (which i doubt will ever happen) and another notable achievement (run, ig s2, major etc)
2019-09-06 21:45
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