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Lg/SK era
kennyS | 
Sweden captaingurgo 
hltv.org/stats/events?startDate=2016-01-.. hltv.org/stats/events?startDate=2017-01-.. Please explain when this supposed era took place. They were the clear number one team at times but never won more than 2 consecutive big events in a row. This is not even comparable to Fnatic, NiP, Astralis or even Liquid(debatable).
2019-08-22 02:50
In 2017 some championships that Faze won, Sk did not play the event
2019-08-22 04:03
Only 1, the ECS finals
2019-08-22 04:11
It's a weaker era during a more competitive time
2019-08-22 03:07
The classic excuse whenever somebody thinks that a team is better than they actually are. It was a more competitive time because SK/LG weren't good enough to make it uncompetitive. If what you mean is that the teams back then were much better, I think that's a ridiculous statement considering the fact that the 2 best players from 2015 got an injury.
2019-08-22 03:15
+1 also envyus without kio were bad, astralis losing confidence in karrigan, g2 and nip werent so good
2019-08-22 05:16
+1 Still people are denying it
2019-08-22 13:49
delusional fanboys inc
2019-08-22 03:10
#4
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
WTF U TALKING ABOUT REEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHSSSSSSSSAAAAAASDDDDDDDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEESDSSS8888888881111111111EEEEEERRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVAITOMARNOCUREEEEEEE
2019-08-22 03:14
#6
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Greece Michaelides 
NiP fnatic Astralis If Liquid win the Berlin Major, that would cement their era as well.
2019-08-22 03:15
+1
2019-08-22 03:17
#8
Stewie2K | 
Portugal yoloho 
+1, rooting for them over here :)
2019-08-22 03:19
#9
stanislaw | 
United States xiquo 
they won 2 majors in a row. Also some other tournaments. sure it wasn't as clean as other eras but they still were amazing for the time.
2019-08-22 03:19
"other tournaments" 1 epl when they played G2 with bodyy smithzz and rpk when he sucked
2019-08-22 03:38
meh like i said at the time it was good.
2019-08-22 03:49
I remember a lg/sk era Hltv normies were all mad: "another tournament, another victory for SK", "sk made csgo boring", "is it just me or 2013-2015 CS was so much better?" Sk era was so great until today butthurt fags complain about it, certainly the most hated era ever, nobody remembers astralis era 1 year ago, nobody remembers cloud9 2 weeks era, nobody cares about liquid 1 month era, but you can remember a sk two years era
2019-08-22 03:24
SK 2 year era, bitch pls they didn't have an era at all. They won 1 event in 2016, you call that an era? They won 6 out of 17 big events in 2017. That's not an era.
2019-08-22 03:29
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Greece Michaelides 
"They won 1 event in 2016, you call that an era?" ???????????????????
2019-08-22 03:36
nice try sk hater 1M id, you didnt even follow csgo at that time
2019-08-22 04:55
Your profile joined in 2018, is that when you started following CS? Also, let's say for sake of argument that he didn't follow CS in 2017, does that make his arguments invalid? Obviously he's wrong, but not because of the reasons you specified. #37
2019-08-22 05:37
#15
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Greece Michaelides 
SK didn't have an era for 2 years. More like, they had 3 small periods of dominance throughout 2016 and 2017 where they won 3/5 tourneys then disappeared.
2019-08-22 03:38
That's the stupidest thing I've read today
2019-08-22 04:12
to hell with ur ad hominem, pleb also #26
2019-08-22 04:55
"Hltv normies were all mad: "another tournament, another victory for SK", "sk made csgo boring", "is it just me or 2013-2015 CS was so much better?" " Yes, people whine, that doesn't make an era. People say the same thing about Liquid now. "Sk era was so great until today butthurt fags complain about it, certainly the most hated era ever, " Why was it so great then? Just because people complain about it not happening doesn't mean it does happen. "nobody remembers astralis era 1 year ago, nobody remembers cloud9 2 weeks era, nobody cares about liquid 1 month era, but you can remember a sk two years era" Because those weren't eras. If you actually think any of those teams have an era, you need to need to reconsider your definition. I know that it's subjective, but that still doesn't mean all opinions are correct. The general consensus is that a team has to be both dominant, but also be dominant for an extended period of time. The SK had a few small periods of when they were the top, but the timeframe for each of those were pretty short. It doesn't matter how many people complain whether a team has an era. An era comes down to the accomplishment of the team itself, not how many people are "mad." That, is truly a stupid argument. You haven't been able to refute a single point provided by me, or anybody else, and all you have been doing is making statements of what people said at the time. People once believed that the Earth was flat, does that make them right? About the ad hominem (nice Redditor vocabulary by the way), the OP and I provided our case on why SK/LG doesn't have an era, and as far as I'm confirmed, calling what you said stupid is perfectly reasonable to me since you didn't say anything of substance.
2019-08-22 05:35
ad hominem is redditor vocabulay? lol! tldr??
2019-08-22 06:23
#44
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Poland Ryunar 
sk and astralis both made many threads about "CS boring now"
2019-08-22 05:21
True, They won 6 events in 2016, Faze for example won 4, SK never had an era ffs.
2019-08-22 03:25
2017 They only won 3 in 2016
2019-08-22 04:55
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2019-08-22 06:05
3 that matter no one cares about an american only dreamhack open
2019-08-22 06:07
Before Astralis era there were no competition just lucky flukes.
2019-08-22 03:34
#16
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
Enough of this salty nonsense. To say that SK didn't have an era when they were clearly the best team in the World for two years is nonsense. In 2017 they won dreamhack open, ECS season 3 finals, and ESL Cologne over a 20 day span. Yeah, their era was not nearly as impressive as fnatic, NiP, or Astralis statistically speaking. NiP shouldn't count considering they played against absolute dog shit competition since they were the first pro team in CSGO. Also, the game doesn't look, sound, or feel anything like it did when they had their era. fnatic played against worse competition as well. What defines an era? Complete dominance? SK were reinventing the game every few months with new strats and remained #1 for almost two years. FalleN was on a different level strategically then the rest of the World. He progressed the game more than any other single player ever has. Whenever it looked like FaZe or Astralis were going to take over as the best team in the World, SK re-invented themselves and went on a new winning streak. That is why they had an era. Theirs is unique compared to what you are defining as an era. But it's still an era. Astralis Liquid fnatic SK NiP
2019-08-22 03:39
who was there to beat in 2016 NaVi? Injured GuardiaN fnatic? injured olof g2? had fucking smithzz bodyy and rpk and still beat SK in a bo3 grand final and took lg to 5 maps in epl nV? had fucking sixer lmao astralis? ehh tbf they beat them fair square mousesports? had spidii, denis, another bot i cant remember, chrisj who only showed up 1/20 games, and niko all these good teams in every other year had problems with their roster in 2016 and LG/SK STILL only won 3 events. In 2017, they won 5/6 tournaments in the summer but DHO was mostly t2, summit also mostly t2, IEM sydney was invite only and the only good teams invited were astralis and faze. I'll give them cologne and ECS bc those were stacked tournaments and they won them back to back. Did I mention they played c9 in cologne finals xDDD PGL Krakow was right after Sk was on a hot streak and was pretty much handed the major on a silver platter. Their cryptonite, g2, went out in groups. Their biggest rival up until this point Faze went out in groups as well. Then they drew Astralis for the quarter finals and lost. Right after the player break it was DHM Malmo. They were up 15-11 on inferno but ofc fer and felps decided to push banana and both were killed and that led them to losing to g2 in a bo3 for the 7 time that year. After that fallen kicked felps for boltz so they have a new player. Next event was ELEAGUE Premiere. They went out in groups, not much to say. FaZe won the event vs Astralis in a quick 2-0 after Astralis blew a 12-3 lead on cache. Was looking at the stats and RpK had the highest rating. I miss when he hard carried nV, but he got ill and hasn't played the same since. Next event was EPICENTER which they won, this tournament was absolutely stacked and they had one of the best grand finals of all time vs Virtus pro. Next tournament was iem oakland and they lost to NiP LMAOOO They won EPL and Blast in a row great wins by them. Final tourney was ECS in Cancun. They didnt even qualify. Luminosty, optic, liquid, and c9 who were all not good at all qualified but SK didn't. SK were able to win 6 big tournaments. Sk would be good for 1 month, be shit for 3, be good for 1 month, then go out in groups for 3 months. This is no way near consistent enough for an era in my books
2019-08-22 04:00
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f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
You have that the other way around bud. They'd be good for a few months, shit for 1 month, good for a few months, shit for a few months, good for a few months. Consistent enough to keep the #1 ranking. Must mean something? They won more big tournaments than fnatic did in their era.
2019-08-22 04:11
Yup, it must mean they didn't have an era.
2019-08-22 04:26
they were good in june, september, and december. stop making this stuff up
2019-08-22 05:07
They weren't consistent enough to keep the top ranking, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
2019-08-22 05:41
fak
2019-08-22 05:42
WTF
2019-08-22 05:42
I guess I have to PM Jonathan E. or else I'm for sure going to get 3 days.
2019-08-22 05:43
Yep. I'm just amazed at the rare 13 post.
2019-08-22 05:46
I don't even remember clicking it that much lol
2019-08-22 05:47
Good luck explaining that to Jonathan)))
2019-08-22 05:48
Don’t worry I was saved by Dimitrii)))
2019-08-22 13:45
+1 this guy knows everything
2019-08-22 05:17
0/8
2019-08-22 04:26
Wow, this was perfectly explained! +1
2019-08-22 04:56
best team in the world for two years in a row, won both majors in one year and like 9 tournaments in another /close
2019-08-22 03:42
#21
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Greece Michaelides 
/open They were too inconsistent with their dominance (sounds like an oxymoron, but it's the best I can think of). For example, after Cologne 2016 (3 big events won at this point), they wouldn't win another tournament until April 23rd, 2017. 3 tournament wins in 2016 isn't an era. For 2017 in general, after Cologne, they didn't win anything until EPICENTER (They attended 4 big events after Cologne and before EPI). Won 2 more tournaments (Pro League and Blast Copenhagen) while failing in Oakland. They had periods of brilliance, but something would happen to stop their momentum eventually.
2019-08-22 04:01
they sucked after every player break essentially, yeah. it wasn't a fnatic or astralis type of dominance but it was still an era where everyone tried to be better than them.
2019-08-22 04:26
Nowhere near 2 years in a row "And like 9 tournaments" ahahhahaha no
2019-08-22 04:26
tell me who was the best team in the world overall during 2016 and 17 then
2019-08-22 04:48
plot.ly/~reidan/117.embed Who cares if they're the best team overall? That doesn't mean they have an era. If a team wins 2% of all tournaments in one year, and 98 teams win 1%, does the 2% have an era? Obviously not, in order to have an era (by the definition used by most people at least), a team has to be dominant, not just #1.
2019-08-22 04:51
dude, quit trying to make up arguments to excuse your bias lmao. it's two consecutive years as the best and most consistently good team in the world, get over it. And it's not like they only won 3 random dreamhacks in 2016, they won 3 premier class tournaments, two of which were back to back major wins, made top4 at nearly every tournament and were top1 for nearly the whole year. Like I said, get over it
2019-08-22 20:08
3 tournaments- not a lot 2016-2017 was interrupted by a period where Astralis was the best team in the world. It’s nowhere near 2 consecutive years, it was 3 small periods where they are at the top. Also, I’m not quite sure why you’re calling me biased when you’re Brazilian.
2019-08-22 20:10
#23
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Brazil Bene_Tleilax 
This talk of era is nonsense. You can make ludicrous arguments about competition to credit or discredit any "era" you think of. For me one thing is certain, since their downfall and the rise of Astralis I have not been having much fun watching csgo. Sk, Vp,NIP, fnatic, ldlc/NV were the best teams to watch.
2019-08-22 04:08
#27
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
friberg leaving NiP. Zeus leaving NaVi. TaZ leaving VP. K0nfig leaving North. flusha leaving fnatic. taco leaving SK. G2 split. These are a few of the moves that began the awkwardly mixed era we see today.
2019-08-22 04:19
Friberg was garbage in nip for a while At the time -zeus was by far the most optimal move Vp obviously needed a roster change at the time it was either neo or taz No excuse for north Flusha was either mediocre or garbage after katowice it fluctuated Sk was garbage and someone had to go G2 hadnt made it passed quarters for several months Dont pretend that all of those moves were bad
2019-08-22 05:04
#64
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
Didn’t say any of them were bad. Said those are the big scene changing moves that somewhat led to where we are today
2019-08-22 05:45
#32
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Brazil jonyboyzines 
best team in 2016 best team in 2017
2019-08-22 04:28
3 events in 2016 6 in 2017 You call 3 events an era? In one of them they went 2-1 in groups & every game went down to the wire (dropped a map to NiP, dropped 2 to G2). NiP also got 3 events in 2016, Fnatic got 2. Also don't try to say that 2016 was part of their so-called "era", after the major they didn't win another event for 11 more events (10 of which they attended). Also 6 events is an era? Since when? If they were all in a row that would be an era but not winning more than 2 in a row? Also one of them was a BLAST. Being the best team doesn't mean it's your era.
2019-08-22 05:36
+1 They might've been ranked the #1 team by HLTV, but they were never dominant enough to cement an era.
2019-08-22 04:34
#48
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Bahrain R4nger)( 
Cry is free
2019-08-22 05:38
With a era or not they made bunch of money that was their goal. Keep wasting ur time here talking about useless terms while they earn cash
2019-08-22 05:57
You got attention. Good troll.
2019-08-22 06:09
#73
Brazil G3er 
Dude what's the point of this topic? SK dominated the scenario for a long time and that is an undeniable fact, any pro confirms that, but that time is gone and they're like #10 at best nowadays, so what's the fucking point? Go waste your time in a less retarded way
2019-08-22 06:29
#78
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Brazil jonyboyzines 
Lacrou
2019-08-23 12:58
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