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$17k hospital visit in america
scoobyxie | 
Liechtenstein animetits420 
i.imgur.com/fDJ5wSj.png tell me again how america is first world country pls
2019-08-22 18:00
#2
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Ukraine QMstargazer 
most of this stuff is free even in Ukraine
2019-08-22 18:02
in here too. its free on any decent place on earth really
2019-08-22 18:11
#39
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Ukraine QMstargazer 
much love to France
2019-08-22 18:17
its free fucking everywhere besida murica, much love to frnace lmao
2019-08-22 18:50
#196
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Germany stifftrim 
+1
2019-08-23 10:12
#304
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France ripmypickems 
why so jealous
2019-08-23 19:59
Getting taxed 70%, so it's not "free"
2019-08-24 16:10
#448
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Sweden frozze90 
damn ! 70%?! WHICH COUNTRY?
2019-08-24 16:36
25-40% but he is still right, its not "free"
2019-08-24 16:37
#465
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Lithuania ateivis 
38,74 euro a month, free is correct word.
2019-08-24 16:54
not sure what u are talking about but ok
2019-08-24 16:54
#474
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Sweden frozze90 
didnt ask about the free part, merely which country he been to with that high taxes. They do pay taxes in america aswell, tho still no free healthcare.
2019-08-24 17:23
no healthcare probably because of lower taxes, i doubt USA has gasoline tax, food tax ect ect ect ect
2019-08-24 17:32
#482
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Sweden frozze90 
yeah I know all that shit. Ive heard people who live in america discuss it aswell. For instance, bernie sanders, who yet again runs for president (seems to have a bigger chance this time around, not 100% guarantee win still, obviously) and he talks about he wants to bring free healthcare to everyone in america. So hopefully this will change soon. since its few countries who does not have it....
2019-08-24 20:09
You know its a BIT easier to have healthcare provided by state in sweden and finland than USA... you know the 330m population and such
2019-08-25 00:43
#489
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Sweden frozze90 
Obviously. But that is something they really need to figure out how it can work. And there are people who thinks it can be done.
2019-08-25 08:29
#127
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France neibaf 
+1
2019-08-22 19:04
nothing is free !!! just you don't pay from your pockets because our country have orgs who do it for you. but the price he is the same.... and maybe it's just the bill who say he have really payed ? he have probably an assurance or others medical cover
2019-08-24 14:11
But the Titan he is the French stars
2019-08-24 16:11
and your mum the porn star
2019-08-24 16:12
what even is this meme
2019-08-24 16:37
#33
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Israel Rea77y 
in israel you dont pay shit for medical care
2019-08-22 18:13
#37
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Ukraine QMstargazer 
much love to Israel
2019-08-22 18:17
#405
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Austria Dontellme 
+1
2019-08-24 15:31
sorry to say this, but i find it shocking that israel has a better healthcare than the usa. not to offend you but still, i find it shocking
2019-08-22 18:18
#64
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United States PsychoLogical 
you can blame lobbyists, trash politicians and corruption. We actually could’ve had a universal healthcare system implemented by Bill Clinton but there was mass opposition and so it got struck down. And now the movement for it here is back thanks to that 1000 year old wizard named Bernie Sanders and is now one of the main things we’re fighting for.
2019-08-22 18:30
#187
biN | 
Israel _laden 
glad we didnt have universal health care implemented, we just need less regulation on healthcare and itll fix itself
2019-08-23 09:55
ofc another delusional maga
2019-08-23 12:35
#263
biN | 
Israel _laden 
call me delusional all you want, it wont change anything
2019-08-23 13:02
#359
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United States Festive_ 
that doesn't work. less regulation will lead to larger corporations which lead to higher prices for the consumer. fewer regulations have also made us have whats called "out of network doctors." This means that when you're rushed to the emergency room in a hospital your insurance works in, there's large chance that the doctor, despite working at the hospital, isn't under your insurance plan causing you to pay very high prices. businesses have no morals, they need regulations so they don't end up controlling the country
2019-08-24 03:25
Insurance is anti free market. Get rid of the middle man.
2019-08-24 03:27
#364
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United States Festive_ 
i'm not sure i understand your opinion pls explain further
2019-08-24 03:35
Free market = competition. Insurance removes that competition between doctors and hospitals to attract customers. The middle man always increases prices, removing them would increase competition thus lowering prices. But rarer procedures should be subsidized. Still, I agree with certain anti price gouging regulations to stop pharmaceutical companies from raising prices like crazy.
2019-08-24 03:40
#368
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United States Festive_ 
that may be true, but insurance is actually a really useful service. a large amount of people pay premiums, but most of them won't ever need to spend large amounts on healthcare. that means that the few who are unfortunate enough to need a lot of healthcare can get it by paying a fraction of the cost over time and have it be subsidized by the lucky healthy people
2019-08-24 03:44
That's literally single payer health care, but instead of paying a public tax you're paying a private tax to insurance companies. Why not just remove the middle man (insurance) and introduce single payer system??
2019-08-24 03:45
#371
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United States Festive_ 
oh yeah i totally agree. i thought you wanted 0 insurance, like including any single payer government system and that wouldn't be good.
2019-08-24 03:49
I'd be fine with a single payer system, as long as private insurance is still allowed to exist.
2019-08-24 03:49
#375
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United States Festive_ 
BUT I THOUGHT YOU WERE AGAINST PRIVATE BECAUSE ITS A MIDDLE MAN WTF MENS WHAT ARE YOU SAYING??? I think we have similar opinions but you need to work on your clarity man
2019-08-24 03:53
The problem is that most people cannot afford private insurance. If a single payer option is introduced, most people will use that. But people should still have the option to have private health care. Assuming you don't have single payer, you might as well remove all private insurance and have the free market run things.
2019-08-24 03:55
#378
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United States Festive_ 
oh weird. i totally agree with your first statement but i think the service insurance provides is too valuable to not have even if it's expensive and run badly, so like today. the current system favors the wealthy and middle class but i'd rather have some people on insurance than none because it creates stability
2019-08-24 03:59
#432
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Mexico bfish8 
Current system favors the wealthy only. Not the Middle Class. Insurance is absolutely valuable, though it's expensive as hell. A single payer health care system with private insurance IS the way to go. If you remove private insurance while trying to implement a new National system, you are going to have doctors/hospitals flooded with patients and a lot of angry people who could have had better/easier access to health care had they kept private insurance.
2019-08-24 15:53
+1
2019-08-23 12:35
really u are voting for communist
2019-08-24 03:01
Never said that. Not even old enough to vote. Even if I was, I wouldn't vote for an old ass man that doesnt understand economics thats also using 20th century solutions for certain problems.
2019-08-24 03:13
good for u :)
2019-08-24 03:14
#360
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United States Festive_ 
clearly you haven't gone through highschool because that's definitely not what communism is
2019-08-24 03:26
Sorry but israel is better than many eu countries
2019-08-22 22:47
yea, like france for edit: just kidding don't take it personal
2019-08-23 11:39
why would you find it shocking? you do realise the foothold jews have in science/media/finance? it would be shocking if they werent near the top all things considered
2019-08-23 11:18
israel is considert a second world country by many, thats why
2019-08-23 11:40
you're just wrong
2019-08-23 20:46
proof?
2019-08-23 20:55
literally just one second of research shows israel has always been first world
2019-08-24 00:23
Israel has money, but it is a nation with poor morale and one that is omitting crimes against humanity. They literally keep people in camps and use them for cheap labor, not that different from what the Nazis did only instead of gas chambers the Israeli use bombs and white phosphor.
2019-08-24 02:06
+1
2019-08-24 12:11
#428
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United States FarCentrist 
It's still a first world country lol.
2019-08-24 15:48
So is Russia, but it doesn't make it a place you'd want to live.
2019-08-24 16:06
#438
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United States FarCentrist 
Russia is 2nd world. I dont think you know what your talking about.
2019-08-24 16:06
you know the "3rd" world meaning has changed? its not about cold war anymore
2019-08-24 16:39
#453
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United States FarCentrist 
0/8
2019-08-24 16:40
?? While i agree that russia is 2nd world or maybe even 3rd world at some places and 1st world at some places, its not because of cold war, since this term has changed.
2019-08-24 16:41
#456
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United States FarCentrist 
Russia is considered a 2nd world country by everyone.
2019-08-24 16:44
source?
2019-08-24 16:45
and do not back it up with wikipedia article, since the wikipedia article of 1st world countries RELIES ON cold war term of 1/2/3stndrd country
2019-08-24 16:46
#461
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United States FarCentrist 
google.com/search?q=is+russia+first+worl.. Find me a single place that claims russia, a country with a gdp per capita of $8000, is 1st world.
2019-08-24 16:48
In contemporary society, the First World is viewed as countries that have the most advanced economies, the greatest influence, the highest standards of living, and the greatest technology.
2019-08-24 16:51
#467
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United States FarCentrist 
Of which russia has none lol. Its a shithole with no influence at all.
2019-08-24 16:55
sure bud, why would you think russia doesnt have advanced economy and a great influence? stronger influence than united states in my opinion due to the amount of nuclear weapons EDIT: flag checks out
2019-08-24 16:55
#469
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United States FarCentrist 
0/8
2019-08-24 16:56
''its CONSIDERED""
2019-08-24 12:15
by nobody but you? there's nobody educated that considers israel second world
2019-08-24 17:12
#218
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Israel Rea77y 
as someone who has close friends in the Netherlands I can tell you that yes you got good health care too but your main problem it's so fucking unneficient the biggest benefit of being a jew in Israel is that the doctos always want to save money and that's why they always have to think and act fast and efficient making it in the end better for both party's : we get efficient health care and they save their shekels
2019-08-23 11:43
okay man, not really clear what you're trying to say but okay. i never intended to offend anyone out of israel and believe me, i know that the healthcare in the netherlands is not perfect even though it has a high ranking in the world. i just meant that i find it stunning that a big first world country like america has no healthcare and that the healthcare of israel (a country with big problems in my eyes) seen as a 2nd worlds country has a way better healthcare
2019-08-23 11:45
#224
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Israel Rea77y 
ı agree that my country sucks but you'd be surprised to know how much better we have certain things here then European countries or america
2019-08-23 11:51
yea
2019-08-23 11:52
#230
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Israel Rea77y 
like did you know that they passed a law allowing only tax payers to vote? that means that all the leaching minorities including really religious jews(who are retarded if u ask me) have to pay to have a say just like the rest of us
2019-08-23 11:57
#246
twice | 
Korea Tzuyu 
they dont have better healthcare but its free yes
2019-08-23 12:17
Not really that shocking, jews are known for not wanting to spend money so i guess it's ok
2019-08-23 12:40
Much love to Israel
2019-08-23 11:36
"free" someone is paying for it
2019-08-22 18:20
Yes, you pay taxes. Same for Poland, I am paying monthly my taxes etc, so if something happens hospitals are free.
2019-08-22 18:37
reddit.com/r/shittyfoodporn/comments/3my.. sorry for reddit enjoy tasty free food in hosptial
2019-08-24 14:06
Actually had a chance to see meals in hospital in Warsaw around two weeks ago, nothing even close to that. Not saying that it does not happen in smaller cities, but then what is better? Pay 17k$ ?? :D
2019-08-24 15:27
not paying health care when it cant even provide proper food which may help with curing disases in hospital
2019-08-24 17:38
Yeah, I am sure that when u break something you will need proper food to get better and hospital is not needed :D Bro, I am aware that for 17k you will get pretty good food :) Average stay in hospital after treatment is around 3 days, your family/friends can bring you normal food, you can limit yourself to sandwiches from hospital. I personally saw people eating pizza in hospital, so it is possible and you end up without 17k to pay ;O
2019-08-24 19:15
as #85 said, in slovakia there is basic health care implemented in your taxes, all the stuff in this post would cost you 0€ in here
2019-08-22 19:14
Difference is that businesses focus on getting most profit, while governments only want to cover all costs.
2019-08-23 00:52
Yeah I think hes just a bit mad...
2019-08-23 11:39
#333
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Argentina macrigato 
Tell that to Argentine politicians loooooool
2019-08-24 02:25
Yes you pay taxes. But a socialized healtcare is less expensive in the end cause theres no profit involved, no communication, marketing, dividends, highly paid lobbyists, CEOs, etc.
2019-08-23 01:08
taxes for this stuff is like a compulsory and cheap insurance
2019-08-23 16:39
Sweden is much free Because of the high tax, really helps a lot of people <3
2019-08-22 18:42
The taxes aren't even that high.
2019-08-23 09:58
#203
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Denmark MeToxi 
And the money that doesn't go to taxes we only need for a few things like food, rent and hobbies
2019-08-23 10:24
Course its free in the Soviet Union
2019-08-23 01:06
#194
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Ukraine QMstargazer 
in our universe soviet union died like 30 years ago
2019-08-23 10:04
Ofcourse it's free in Soviet Union
2019-08-23 15:39
in ukraine (like in russia and other cis countries_ you will die after "medical help"
2019-08-24 14:17
#3
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Hungary mEZENCEphalon 
6k for a CT wtfmen)))))))))))
2019-08-22 18:02
CT eco looks good mens)))
2019-08-22 18:23
#96
OCEAN | 
Reunion 2iquser 
no thats like an awp, kevlar+helmet and a HE and a decoy
2019-08-22 18:45
In america you can buy pistols for the whole neighborhood
2019-08-23 11:41
#267
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Norway k3ron 
lmao
2019-08-23 13:10
rektered
2019-08-24 15:38
#154
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Europe wtfmen)) 
Wtfmen ))) they want 6k for a picture (
2019-08-22 20:20
Those machines are really expensive, so spending time in one is costly. Also it is no fun being in one, boring and uncomfortable.
2019-08-24 02:00
ofc they are expensive things but 6k$ for one examination is just absurd and disgusting yeah its spinning and shit but you get cool pictures
2019-08-24 02:57
The price of insulin in the United States is so high that many ... This has led to the deaths of at least six diabetics over the past three years. They counted 6 deaths in 3 years. Lets say they are wrong and lets round up to 100 people. That is still 0.000000135135% of people die from insulin being too expensive for them.
2019-08-24 12:43
one visit to the hospital can financially break many people and send them into severe debt which is very not cool
2019-08-24 14:02
That is true, but if you pay $1 a month they can't do anything about it. Also if you don't have insurance that is a personal fault because almost every business offers it.
2019-08-24 14:39
Almost every....
2019-08-24 15:41
Yes its their choice to work at businesses that don't offer it. I worked for 5 years at a place that didn't offer insurance and I bought my own.
2019-08-24 16:57
So how much does it cost per month ?
2019-08-24 22:58
My family insurance costs a little over $200 a month.
2019-08-24 23:04
whole family ? or one person? its not that expensive tho
2019-08-25 00:05
Whole family.
2019-08-25 00:37
always thought its waaaay more expensive
2019-08-25 17:21
It can be. I use to pay $700 a month, but that was because I had a job that I made over 125k a year. Now my company offers health coverage and that is what it is.
2019-08-25 18:19
#423
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
So people can just magically afford insurance you know some people live bill to bill right?
2019-08-24 15:43
They choose those careers and they choose to spend their money on other things than insurance. Why should other people have to suffer from a choice made by another person? Also if you can't afford insurance there is Medicaid that is free medical insurance for you.
2019-08-24 16:59
#4
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United States PsychoLogical 
we are a first world country. We’re just a first world country with third world problems.
2019-08-22 18:02
In usa universal health care is only for very poor people, right?
2019-08-22 18:09
#43
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United States PsychoLogical 
it doesnt exist here.
2019-08-22 18:19
xDD
2019-08-23 12:08
thats why u need health insurance in usa otherwise this happens
2019-08-24 12:47
Yes. And if you do get any bill you can pay $1 a month and they cant do anything about it.
2019-08-22 21:59
I like you lie to yourself like this, to accept the fact you let your own neighbour suffer like a third-worlder.
2019-08-23 11:49
I lie to myself? I have a cousin that has had no job for 5 years now and lives off government housing. She takes her and her kids in for regular doctors visits and her oldest goes to therapy every week. Guess who pays for that? The taxpayers and she doesn't get a bill. So if you don't know shit about our system please refrain from trying to act like you know it.
2019-08-23 12:19
But how does it happen then that someone dies because no money for insulin for example
2019-08-24 12:23
If you get a rare disease in Europe and the medicine for it isn't covered in your Insurance/health care you will go broke as well or even die. Not really much difference
2019-08-24 15:36
#455
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Germany Sabba1 
like 70% of usa is fat diabetes isnt a rare disease
2019-08-24 16:42
Not saying it is, but if they get health insurance they will get 'free' insulin
2019-08-24 16:44
in my state, if you fall under the poverty line, you will get free healthcare
2019-08-23 21:00
#22
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Finland xore1 
well said
2019-08-22 18:10
#148
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United States Nohj_ 
+1
2019-08-22 19:17
guess its ok for 1 year hospital stay
2019-08-22 18:03
prolly 2 days
2019-08-22 18:12
it's an er bill, you don't stay in the er. you can see there what they're paying for. she didn't spend a single night at the hospital
2019-08-22 18:53
no man for 6k she spent at least 2 days riding that CT SCAN. I can get 2 weeks on a cruise for less
2019-08-22 20:17
she was probably in there for about 20 minutes
2019-08-22 20:40
+1 Really extensive scans take like 45 min to an hour, bu 20 min or so is more normal.
2019-08-24 02:09
You do not want to spend 2 days in a CT scanner. While in one you can hardly more and are supposed to not move at all when the scan are going on, so it gets really uncomfortable and also boring really quick. If you're claustrophobic you might even need to be sedated to avoid getting a panic attack.
2019-08-24 02:12
it was a joke
2019-08-24 04:11
#197
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Germany stifftrim 
+1
2019-08-23 10:12
#6
Supmah | 
Sweden IvoS 
that is phantomlord type of scam
2019-08-22 18:04
#7
s1mple | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
They pay less taxes, though.
2019-08-22 18:04
seems fair, save 1k or 2k in taxes and spend 17k everytime you got sick
2019-08-22 18:05
In that case, it's not a theoretical problem, but a problem in execution
2019-08-22 18:06
He's full of shit. I'd rather have 30% taxes and not get free healthcare than have 60% taxes and get free healthcare. Also his numbers are nonsense
2019-08-22 18:08
#25
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Finland FakeHltv 
You understand that almost no one pays 60% taxes right, if personally pay 27% and can get the stuff above for a few houndred, its not taxes that is the problem its the fact youre getting hard scammed by your hospitals, insulin is 10 times cheaper in Canada
2019-08-22 18:11
Huge +1, especially that insulin part is insane, here you have it even for free.
2019-08-23 01:03
Of course, you need insulin to live. Only in the USA you overcharge for something a person has to have. When it is something you dont have to have, Coca cola, junk-food, guns they sell it for a penny.
2019-08-23 11:53
#233
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Finland FakeHltv 
Its all business and they only care about money, USA the only country where the medicine industry can choose their own price, in most countries its discussed between the goverment.
2019-08-23 12:05
Scary really.
2019-08-23 12:07
Yeah they live in very toxic world. If I ever had to move be there I'd go only for a veery well paid job and most likely only temporarily.
2019-08-23 12:16
Not that simple. In single payer countries then the government makes deals with the industry on what medicine costs, the government can say give us a fair price or no sale however that only works when there are multiple choices of medicine that does the same thing. For special medicine the choice is instead if the government will pay what the companies demand or make due without the medicine, so some medicine may cost €100K a month per patient and the choice is then how much is a life worth. Same thing with the expensive machines like CT scanners, such a machine may cost a million plus it needs a special building and people specially trained to operate.
2019-08-24 02:19
#26
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Finland xore1 
here is 30% taxes AND free healthcare taxes depend on income tho
2019-08-22 18:11
It's progressive right? What are the levels of taxes in Finland?
2019-08-23 01:04
#235
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Finland FakeHltv 
Most people pay around 30% but if you make alot of money u can pay closer to 50%
2019-08-23 12:05
What's considered as a lot of money?
2019-08-23 12:16
#255
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Finland Karri 
like 100k a year, finnish taxes suck ass
2019-08-23 12:31
Imagining 50k goes away is just painful. I guess people try to avoid too high salaries and ask the number to meet the lower tax requirements lol
2019-08-23 12:36
#261
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Finland Karri 
yeah it's so retarded
2019-08-23 12:50
#262
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Finland FakeHltv 
Thats what people do. 100k a year isnt 50% tho, 600k or more is where 50% comes
2019-08-23 13:01
Oh well I guess only corp. CEOs or very successful businessmen reach that level.
2019-08-23 13:18
its surely progressive and you can google the tax percentages very easy. don't know why u ask here when u see he is just guessing.
2019-08-23 19:56
Coz I like to talk to actual people?
2019-08-23 19:57
#206
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Finland Karri 
30% my ass
2019-08-23 10:29
Don't you have different tax rates depending on income?
2019-08-23 11:54
#253
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Finland Karri 
yeah but why would this guy mention 30% because it depends on how much u make
2019-08-23 12:30
And dont you pay speed tickets from x% of monthly income??
2019-08-23 11:55
#236
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Finland FakeHltv 
Yes
2019-08-23 12:05
Heard abourt a guy, CEO (nokai??) who had to pay a crazy speed ticket.
2019-08-23 12:08
Lol yeah makes you think twice. Wonder if they have statistically safest roads due to this law.
2019-08-23 12:18
#254
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Finland Karri 
rasmus ristolainen (finnish NHL player) got a 120k speeding ticket
2019-08-23 12:31
#265
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Finland FakeHltv 
120k speeding ticket yep
2019-08-23 13:08
That is a good system. A speeding ticket like €500 or so does not matter much to most people, so that is hardly stopping anyone from speeding while fx. 20% of income is another matter.
2019-08-24 02:22
Except your numbers are wrong. For "free" and universal healthcare, most of rich country citizen pay around $5000 each year. In the US you pay $10000 per citizen per year. Meaning not only we have no worry about being able to pay our medical bill, that everyone has access to but also it is cheaper.
2019-08-22 18:24
no they wouldn't
2019-08-23 00:51
Jaun, yes healthcare is cheaper in EU because hospitals are government regulated. They don't accept the medical companies to overcharge on fuckin insulin. They simple say they are not allowed. "No matter how you parse it, there is no denying that the U.S. spends more on health care by a wide margin. The size of this gap can be explained largely by the fragmented network of health insurance in the U.S.: Multiple payment types and insurance companies exist, each offering different services." investopedia.com/ask/answers/020915/what.. I have seen you get trashed in HLTV comment wars, i start to think you are a part of a propaganda program.
2019-08-23 12:10
cringed
2019-08-23 14:39
#58
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Other WorldIsAFuck 
idk i basically pay 40% here (netherlands) and get free healthcare
2019-08-22 18:25
#129
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Sweden bakish 
You dutchies pay like €100/month for health insurance right?, so I dunno if I'd call it free :-D
2019-08-22 19:04
#241
k0nfig | 
Netherlands miles- 
Yes, we pay like 160 euro each month. It's a required insurance. So just another name for taxes :) Oh, and we also have own liability clause. Like the first 400 euro you have to pay yourself. This prevents people from going for every small thing to the doctor.
2019-08-23 12:13
#108
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Those numbers aren't even close to correct lol.
2019-08-22 18:50
i mean i pay 37% and i live in Denmark
2019-08-22 19:03
#160
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Sweden DanzigOrWar 
60% my man no one has that high taxes
2019-08-22 21:52
What kind of retard pays 60% tax? you probably don't even pay taxes cause you're a 15 yo kid that knows nothing about taxes
2019-08-22 22:44
+1
2019-08-23 12:09
haha facts
2019-08-23 12:26
LUL
2019-08-24 03:52
#183
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Vietnam EssenEsser 
everything checks out even brain
2019-08-23 01:09
60%? sorry even erdogan is not that greedy bro
2019-08-23 16:43
#365
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United States Festive_ 
lmao then you're just an idiot
2019-08-24 03:38
#16
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Belarus Polotsk 
I doubt she was just "sick" if they CT and other images as well, lab tests, etc. Also, she went to the ER, so I doubt that she had some serious situation or something. Ok, I admit lab tests are pretty regular.
2019-08-22 18:08
Then what? The point is, the same in my country I get out of the hospital with no bills at all. In fact, last time I went in a hospital I genuinely asked if I could pay by check. The girl said "no you can't.... It is public hospital you don't pay anything".
2019-08-22 18:27
#70
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Belarus Polotsk 
I meant she probably had some injuries or some serious illness/condition if she went to the emergency room, had to take CT and other images, lab tests, other diagnostic services and went to the pharmacy.
2019-08-22 18:31
The thing is this: A doctor can just say they should check with a CT and they have to pay for that. But they can only trust the doctor. Here in germany you have to pay alot less, especially if the doctor says they need to do it. Even privately renting it at some hospital where you pay full costs is cheaper than what the hospitals offer in the US.
2019-08-22 18:57
#79
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Germany liddeb0b 
just dont get sick 4Head
2019-08-22 18:34
+1 but western europeans on hltv will never understand it because they never worked a day in their life and wont see 45% of their income go to the trash
2019-08-22 18:08
#20
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Finland FakeHltv 
Most people dont pay more than 30% i personally pay 27%
2019-08-22 18:09
if you are living alone and are not married (steuerklasse 1) and earn over 70k you pay 42% taxes in germany
2019-08-22 18:12
#34
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Finland FakeHltv 
Ya youre also considered to be really well off, thats earning twice as much as germanys average salary and still paying less than 45%
2019-08-22 18:14
just saying that it would still be worth it to pay 20-30% taxes in the USA and pay for health-care and education yourself (especially since wealthy germans send their children to private doctors and schools anyways despite paying almost half of their income to our retarted ass government)
2019-08-22 18:17
#51
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Finland FakeHltv 
IMO if youre well off (100k+/year) person, but i prefer our system for your average 25-35k earning guy, i like it safe and would hate to have get a large sum as debt like that, went to the dentist 7 times over this year (fixed alot of my teeth) and its not exactly free but ive payed less than 1k € for everything
2019-08-22 18:21
#208
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Denmark MeToxi 
In Denmark most people pay about 40% in taxes
2019-08-23 10:36
Wrong. You might pay 40% of the part that is taxed, but that is after deductibles so it is likely more around 32-33%.
2019-08-24 02:31
No you don't. You pay 42% only on your income above 70k. Meaning your total taxes are less.
2019-08-22 18:27
#28
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Belarus Polotsk 
Off-topic, but we recently had a class and the teacher told that he gets so mad sometimes when he is visiting doctor and he can see that free healthcare money is spent on people who have flu, cough, sore throat or something really common that can be treated with rest and little time.
2019-08-22 18:11
how often is your teacher himself going to the doctor to see this? and know that they are common colds etc and not infections, or tb etc lol
2019-08-22 18:31
#83
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Belarus Polotsk 
He has two young kids as far as I know, so probably wents there with them as well, not just all alone. Besides, young people tend to some fun about free healthcare as well for the same exact reason, when they go there they see a lot of people with common colds, etc. Of course, people can't know 100% that it's just some regular flu other people are having, but you can hear people talking with each other literally saying "My throat has been so sore for TWO days or "I have had a cough for a whole week already".
2019-08-22 18:36
Can i go to the doctors for having a cough for 2 years
2019-08-24 00:33
Your teacher is not thinking very much. Yes, most people will be fine without seeing a doctor for small things however a few of those people may actually be suffering from something that will get a lot worse if not seen by a doctor in time ie. those small thing can turn out to be really expensive if not dealt with early. Also if one is not generally well then something like a flu can put you in the grave, it is why people get a flu vaccine every year since avoiding getting sick is much cheaper for the society. In the US where people often do not go to a doctor unless they feel really ill, then it means some people are very sick when they see a doctor and what may have been easy to cure had they come early instead puts them in a hospital.
2019-08-24 02:37
They pay less income tax, but they pay taxes and everything they buy. And also they have to tip everyone, which is retarded.
2019-08-23 09:59
I have news for you. Almost everything you buy there is also a tax on, same thing in most countries.
2019-08-24 02:39
#8
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Norway SaltySausage 
better doctors, no waiting lists. these things cost money, whats the problem?
2019-08-22 18:04
#15
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Finland FakeHltv 
The amount of money it costs obviously
2019-08-22 18:07
#285
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Norway SaltySausage 
just make enough money idk?
2019-08-23 19:47
#305
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Finland FakeHltv 
Top kek
2019-08-23 20:23
#442
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Vietnam ponmemes 
damn you just solved poverty good job
2019-08-24 16:14
#30
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Finland xore1 
better doctors than countires like uganda
2019-08-22 18:12
#284
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Norway SaltySausage 
better than the rest of the world
2019-08-23 19:46
#306
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Finland xore1 
how
2019-08-23 20:36
USA doctors are the best in the world, stop being idiot, and they are very well paid, for example in Europe Doctors dont receive that much.
2019-08-23 20:49
#314
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Finland xore1 
being paid well doesnt mean they are the best tell me why they are better rather than calling me an idiot
2019-08-23 21:36
they have better tecnology that helps them, and they have better college overrall
2019-08-23 21:59
No and no. And also they have a lot fewer doctors per person. Stop thinking that because something is expensive it is also better, that is not a given at all.
2019-08-24 02:42
I lived in USA, and now i live in Europe so i know what im talking about
2019-08-24 18:10
Right, so you've visited every hospital in the US, talked to every doctor and did the same in Europe - and you are able to judge the quality since you're some sort of wizard in the medical field. You sounds like one of those people claiming smoking isn't bad because they've heard of some smoker living a hundred years. News flash - what you have is an anecdote and nothing else. How about looking at some actual data: healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection.. You'll see that by most metrics the US is not doing as well as other modern countries, this despite the US health sector costing like double per capita compared most of those other countries
2019-08-24 18:40
#40
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Germany Roflcopter234 
"better doctors" and why??
2019-08-22 18:18
According to life expectancy and other indicators, they don't have better doctors.
2019-08-22 18:29
blame it on those juicy irresistible amurican burgers
2019-08-23 12:27
#286
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Norway SaltySausage 
mixed races, who have different health problems. for example black people have more heart problems than whites, so its easier treating a population of basically one race
2019-08-23 19:48
#87
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Germany flufluflu1 
Im a state official and have private health care? No waiting list and i pay literally nothing compared to a 2 day US hospital stay? How come?
2019-08-22 18:40
>someone provides private health care for me >look, these people who don't have anyone to provide it for them have to pay for them! hah, what fools!!
2019-08-22 18:58
#128
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Germany flufluflu1 
Braindead? Anyone can get private healthcare.
2019-08-22 19:04
#289
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Norway SaltySausage 
you pay through tax
2019-08-23 19:49
#92
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Finland Autisthicc 
i see you still live with your parents dumb kid
2019-08-22 18:42
#291
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Norway SaltySausage 
what?
2019-08-23 19:49
#205
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
Better doctors, for what exactly? Plastic surgery?
2019-08-23 10:28
#292
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Norway SaltySausage 
diseases?
2019-08-23 19:49
big lol i had operation at private clinic where were at past hockey players like Marian Hosa, Marian Gaborik, Miro Satan etc and I paid for it 1000€ :D
2019-08-23 16:45
#294
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Norway SaltySausage 
they should have given you an english lesson instead of the operation
2019-08-23 19:50
#10
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Ireland sfinan 
I remember debating if I should go to the ER to get a tetanus shot after stepping on a rusty nail. I was put off by the €100 ER charge. after seeing America's Healthcare Prices, €100 sounds like a great deal
2019-08-22 18:05
l0l i had a panic attack one night at like 16 and genuinely thought i was dying i decided to take my chance and just not call ambulance since it would cost over $1000 lol
2019-08-23 00:47
Exactly. I know a guy in the US with medical insurance that was in a car accident and did not go to the hospital, this despite being pretty sure of a bruised or broken rib. Knowing what the hospital would do and having an idea of what the co-payments would be he decided to wait and see - luckily he was fine after a couple of weeks. Taking a chance like that would never be thought of here, people go just to be safe.
2019-08-24 02:48
#13
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Finland FakeHltv 
Ct scan 6k :DDDDDDDD
2019-08-22 18:06
#14
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Russia mmmmmmajestic 
More like CT scam
2019-08-22 18:07
#146
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United States Nohj_ 
LOL
2019-08-22 19:17
#479
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Norway birbbI 
+1
2019-08-24 18:38
#17
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Lithuania simo32 
next time instead of buying CT scanner, try rent it. lol
2019-08-22 18:08
XD
2019-08-23 16:46
3rd world problems xaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-08-22 18:10
#27
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Pakistan ostraka 
6k for CT SCAN LOL
2019-08-22 18:11
Maybe consider getting health insurance instead of trying to be a whiny socialist leech?
2019-08-22 18:12
more EU propaganda from a guy who doesn't know what insurance is smh.
2019-08-22 18:15
Imagine needing an insurance in your home country to get affordable health care OMEGA_MOTHERFUCKING_LUL XDDDD
2019-08-22 18:16
Switzerland?
2019-08-22 18:18
Imagine needing an insurance in your home country to get affordable health care OMEGA_MOTHERFUCKING_LUL XDDDD
2019-08-22 18:19
There are no free state-provided health services, but private health insurance is compulsory for all persons residing in Switzerland (within three months of taking up residence or being born in the country).
2019-08-22 18:19
My point is that it's expensive as fuck. So it is in Switzerland.
2019-08-22 18:30
Its not very expensive in Switzerland actually and I'd pick Switzerland to live in more than any EU country.
2019-08-22 18:31
It's not expensive if you compare it to.... US. That' s pretty much it. It's expensive if you compare it to EU countries which it should be compared to. edit: NA -> US
2019-08-22 18:35
its costs more yeah but it doesn't have people that aren't from the country crying about it on HLTV does it?
2019-08-22 18:35
I think that petty 6,5k$ average monthly salary has nothing to do with the fact that they're not upset about these prices.
2019-08-22 18:41
yeah you think?
2019-08-22 18:42
Okay so U.S just has to double their citizens income to make their system affordable. Easy peasy.
2019-08-22 18:50
No because the same post would've still been made to make it appear as though everyone who has had a child paid $17k. Where the few realistic scenarios where this would happen would be an "independent" young adult (18-23) with no full time job having a child.
2019-08-22 18:55
And Switzerland is the second country in the OECD with higher healthcare cost ($8k per citizen) after USA ($10k) and before any other country with public healthcare (from 6k to less). Coincidence?
2019-08-22 18:31
Switzerland doesn't seem to be complaining very much. Coincidence?
2019-08-22 18:32
Switzerland doesn't have the amount of poor and low working class USA has.
2019-08-22 18:33
what a discovery.
2019-08-22 18:33
Perhaps you missed the point were the problem is not the price, but the possibility to afford it for many.
2019-08-22 18:35
wow BigBaguette you have told me much I never knew about today. I am only 1 hour away from the white house I will send your post to Trump immediately!
2019-08-22 18:37
Or just think about it before posting "hey some rich people don't seem to complain much about paying less than our poor people" next time.
2019-08-22 18:40
Switzerland has much lower taxes and way fewer regulations than the vast majority of U.S States.
2019-08-23 00:54
been at the swiss hospital for over night one time (cuz was super drunk the day before xD and i was felling really bad, doctor basically said 'retard dont drink much and stay here'), payed around 200$ for everything they did so nt
2019-08-22 18:47
so what?
2019-08-22 18:48
its not 16k
2019-08-22 18:49
what are you talking about?
2019-08-22 18:50
deserved, the doctor is right
2019-08-22 18:54
#198
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Germany stifftrim 
+1
2019-08-23 10:12
#47
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Germany PeKay 
Just USA Things
2019-08-22 18:20
#48
Canada epmd 
So much for "Land of the Free" amirite?
2019-08-22 18:20
#60
Canada epmd 
So what is your point? You want to be called "land of the fast but stupid expensive" ??? Cool
2019-08-22 18:26
The price you pay is the multiplying cancer cells while you wait for treatment :) "Patients with cataract problems who can’t function without assistance: 60 per cent not handled within government benchmarks. People with severe daily pain from gallbladder colic: 71 per cent not cared for within an acceptable time frame set by government. Sixty-five per cent of people suffering from bladder cancer are not being operated on within the government’s recommended maximum time. It’s almost the same for those who have prostate cancer with a high risk of progression."
2019-08-22 18:30
#88
Canada epmd 
You quote is in reference to BC, which is 80% migrant population, they elected NDP leader which is almost as stupid as electing Donald Trump. So of course they are useless, but even still - I'd rather wait 11 hours than pay 16k for a CT scan lol. 11 hours of my time doesn't net me 16k sadly so I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to say here but, you keep forgetting that you can't win so, please go on.
2019-08-22 18:40
Here’s a sample of Canada's most spectacular failures: • Ability to get a same or next-day appointment when sick: Worst • Ability to get after-hours care (without resorting to visiting an emergency department): Second-worst • Wait for treatment in the emergency department: Worst • Wait to see a specialist: Worst • Wait for elective surgery: Worst You want me to praise your system while some people's cancer progresses with no alternative option other than to come to (guess what country).
2019-08-22 18:44
#207
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Finland Karri 
private healthcare?????
2019-08-23 10:35
Many provinces in Canada do not have that option.
2019-08-23 19:06
We ain't paying for shit medical men)
2019-08-22 18:21
#50
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Maybe homeboy should get a job with insurance I went to ER couple months ago for cluster headaches and neck spasms. 119$ bill 2week supply muscle relaxers and 2 week supply of anti inflammatory steroids. 22$ BTW— That bill looked real legit. Iv never had a bill that looked like that. LMAO just look at the font size.
2019-08-22 18:21
#53
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Germany PeKay 
Trump will save USA dw gl
2019-08-22 18:23
#74
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Already has KAG
2019-08-22 18:32
#57
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Finland FakeHltv 
Howmuch you gotta pay for your insurance out of curiosity?
2019-08-22 18:24
#71
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United States Trump2020KAG 
free health dental vision and prescription. I’m in a operators union so our wage already has everything taken out of it by the union. Along with 401k and death insurance.
2019-08-22 18:31
#97
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Finland FakeHltv 
No i ment howmuch do you pay for this? Howmuch does the insurance cost ya?
2019-08-22 18:46
#121
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Sweden Bakkmann 
He doesnt wanna say lmao
2019-08-22 18:58
Lmao
2019-08-22 21:56
alot of jobs will give free insurance, so he probably pays nothing for it
2019-08-24 03:28
If he works for a decent job or anything medical related not much at all
2019-08-24 16:28
paying for ER visit xdddd
2019-08-23 12:13
they used golden bandages and tear drops made by virgin fairy's cum
2019-08-22 18:23
Not even. The very same brand of the very same drug is sometime 12 time cheaper 100m away from US border in Canada.
2019-08-22 18:32
lmao!!!!! muricans get a huge rip off.. I wonder why they dont react
2019-08-22 19:14
expected from trash country
2019-08-22 18:26
America is like darwinism but replace health/strength of inviduals with money.
2019-08-22 18:32
17k holy shit
2019-08-22 18:35
They should have saved up money. In countries where health care is "free", the government takes a cut of your salary to pay that health care. So take that money that you save and save it to pay medical bills 😎👍
2019-08-22 18:44
ideally this should be things most people should do. "Emergency fund" we call it. We are taught it in school actually but it seems to be never executed. This post doesn't really reflect the actual price for parents who have a full time job and are financially ready for a child. It is really a dumb person who had a child when he/she was not financially ready and trying to blame a system for his/her's own stupidity.
2019-08-22 19:10
CT SCAN 6 K HAHAAHAH WTFFFFF. GG WP
2019-08-22 18:44
ahahahaha
2019-08-22 18:47
because I always use travel insurance
2019-08-22 18:48
Probably fake Thats without insurance
2019-08-22 18:49
OMEGALUL
2019-08-22 18:49
i dont understand why we dont establish communism. Everything is free!
2019-08-22 18:51
+1 Doctor salary = mcdonalds worker salary everything gonna be so great, we're gonna have so many doctors!
2019-08-22 19:11
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this!!!
2019-08-22 19:15
#112
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Australia Ohnorepo 
It's due to the privatization of health care. It is a business there. Not a human right. That's the first issue. The moment education, health, transportation etc etc gets privatized, it becomes about profit. It's a systemic flaw that is impossible to change now. They can help reduce the cost, but the problem will always exist.
2019-08-22 18:53
#118
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Hell, it's already been proven that their healthcare system is less likely to help you get the treatment you need based on race and gender lol. It's a deeply flawed system. A silver lining is that both left and right wing supporters seem to be seeing more agreement in their fractured "health care system".
2019-08-22 18:56
education should not be free in the US. Specifically college, we would pointlessly spend money on people who want to get drunk every night instead of actually going to class.
2019-08-22 19:13
HAHHHAHHHAHHA WTF ARE THOSE PRICES? pls tell me this is a joke
2019-08-22 18:54
"other diagnostic services" k
2019-08-22 18:55
#117
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United States fatburger 
I love how many Europeans genuinely their healthcare is “free” also pretty much everyone has insurance you never pay that
2019-08-22 18:55
#126
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Australia Ohnorepo 
I mean, even with insurance you have reports constantly coming out of people unable to afford their bills. Insurance or not, privatized health care systems have massively over inflated prices for even basic health care. What was it, 2009 or something, even adjusted for inflation saw costs 9x more expensive over the last 50 years. It's more and more impossible for people to keep up.
2019-08-22 19:03
#130
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United States fatburger 
The average plan in 2017 costed $321 a month which is obviously expensive but it’s affordable
2019-08-22 19:10
#137
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Sweden Bakkmann 
Well mine Costs 0$
2019-08-22 19:13
#138
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Australia Ohnorepo 
No, you pay tax. It does "cost" you something. Same for me.
2019-08-22 19:14
#164
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Sweden Bakkmann 
No i don't have a salary
2019-08-22 22:03
#185
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Well that means other peoples tax are paying for yours right now. I've seen you clarify it in other comments. Same here in Aus. When I was a student I paid no taxes too.
2019-08-23 09:44
#142
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United States fatburger 
Holy shit how do you not realize you pay for it with taxes. Sweden has extremely fucking high taxes.
2019-08-22 19:15
#168
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Sweden Bakkmann 
I don't make any money, because im studying which the state Will cover and ill be out working when im ~25. And by then ive payed almost nothing to Them except the cut when buying things
2019-08-22 22:05
#142
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United States fatburger 
Holy shit how do you not realize you pay for it with taxes. Sweden has extremely fucking high taxes.
2019-08-22 19:15
#165
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Sweden Bakkmann 
No i don't have a salary
2019-08-22 22:04
#145
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United States Nohj_ 
0/8
2019-08-22 19:16
Your doctors get 0$?
2019-08-22 19:23
#166
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Sweden Bakkmann 
I don't pay them
2019-08-22 22:04
#149
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Australia Ohnorepo 
"expensive but it’s affordable". That makes no sense. If it's expensive, not everyone is going to find it affordable dude. You might either want to try and restructure that sentence, or realise it's not true. $321 a month is not counting families, with dependents. $321 may not seem like a lot to certain people now, but considering insurance price increase has consistently outgrown wage increases, how long is going to seem "expensive but it’s affordable" to others? It's a systemic flaw. From the ground up.
2019-08-22 19:18
#288
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United States Acehavok 
That doesn't include the deductible, copays, and percentage split after the deductible.
2019-08-23 19:48
LOL this is the bill that your insurance pays it...
2019-08-22 18:59
I don't get a bill if my insurance pays it.
2019-08-22 18:59
#124
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United States fatburger 
Insurance usually pays like 95%
2019-08-22 19:00
complete bullshit, most insurance pays 80% AFTER you pay deductible. There is also a limit for how much they pay. You're like most people in the US, too stupid to understand the insurance system, thinking they pay for everything.
2019-08-22 22:49
#199
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Germany stifftrim 
+1
2019-08-23 10:12
"other services" roflmao. yeah sure... that bill is simply ridiculous...murica, please! the doctor is snorting cocaine!
2019-08-22 19:11
#134
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Canada ProvexPyker 
2.7k for emergency room??????
2019-08-22 19:12
is this real?
2019-08-22 19:14
#144
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Israel wetz 
Obviously that's not true, you really think ct cost 6k
2019-08-22 19:15
#147
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Belarus fan_of_North 
What the fuck
2019-08-22 19:17
#150
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France J0riS 
Holy shit
2019-08-22 19:19
(((they))) want americans to pay more for healthcare under the guise that freedom is going into debt if one becomes ill. its a shame na health care is shit as they have the other 2 things that makes a good society (the ability to defend ones self and free speech).
2019-08-22 19:21
Based brit
2019-08-23 19:52
#433
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United States FarCentrist 
Wow, a brit who isnt a mindless, jealous america basher.
2019-08-24 15:55
XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA
2019-08-22 20:44
#157
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United States GiantDays 
The United States was built and founded on distrust for the government. The same reason nobody wants to repeal the 2nd Amendment is the same reason Social Healthcare is taking so long: Most would rather die from being poor than let the State decide if they are worth saving. Its why most charity/nonprofits who help with this exact problem are private.
2019-08-22 20:45
+1 You'll have people telling you upfront that they are in their 30s, they have low risk of cancer and other stuff so they are happy to not pay an insurance or taxes for universal healthcare. Our conception of liberty is quite different. In Europe, laws, boundaries, etc, is what make us free. I'm free to go hiking even if I dont have an insurance because I know it'll be covered by UH. I'm free to go on the road because I know someone will not drive 200 mph and kill me (funny that this logic applies to speed limitation in the US). I consider myself free because I know I wont get shot at work or in the street. Actually this logic was developed aswell for climate change. People and states think they should be free to do whatever they want. But what kind of liberty will you have when you'll be at home 4 months a year because it'll be 50 degrees outside ?
2019-08-23 01:18
#272
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United States GiantDays 
+1, I agree with that. For most of the US (at least as far as the people I ask from several walks of life), its less to do with 'liberty' and much more the fear and distrust of the powers that be. Ironic really, when most of my compatriots vote in candidates that tend to lean towards larger/more government, yet say they want the opposite. I happen to lean more towards the actual anti-government crowd personally, but I do see the virtues of a taxpayer-funded healthcare.
2019-08-23 16:30
i actually like very much your healthcare system because it would benefit me & my family i wouldn't like to pay taxes for "free" healthcare that i'm going to use maybe once every 15years
2019-08-23 11:52
#158
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Russia Sample_ 
At least US has excellent healthcare in terms of quality, the moment it becomes "free" it will be so much shitty imo
2019-08-22 21:49
"the moment it becomes "free" it will be so much shitty" no its not.
2019-08-23 09:59
#193
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Russia Sample_ 
Well, it's either will make doctors earn less or taxes to grow substantially, neither is good
2019-08-23 10:02
#161
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United States dimension63 
Maybe just don’t go to the emergency room?
2019-08-22 21:54
afraid of dying? just don't die. you stand alone on the top of a the stupidity mountain my friend.
2019-08-22 22:50
hahaha big brain American right here
2019-08-23 19:51
#301
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Canada thelegend27 
4Head
2019-08-23 19:53
Yeah I don't get it why will u waste money on medical attention when u can just die 40iq right there lmao.
2019-08-24 02:55
#362
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United States dimension63 
99% of emergency room visits are preventable. The remaining 1% can be solved by just taking a little nap. Emergency room is a scam for fat people/smokers/oldfags.
2019-08-24 03:38
Dude ur stupid af, what u just said doesn't make any sense, at least in a normal country.
2019-08-24 04:24
#167
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Germany Ratwar 
so when u have an car accident just die or u just have no more money left to live lmao
2019-08-22 22:04
I'm pretty sure Doctors have to save your life even if you have no money
2019-08-24 16:36
Did you have not insurance when you traveled?
2019-08-22 22:40
#175
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Sweden meistr0 
Obv not his wife etc lol. Its from Reddit i believe. Also, "insurance" bs. The bill is still f*cking insane. CT scan 6K LOL.
2019-08-23 00:50
But if you have insurance, majority of it is covered.
2019-08-24 01:53
#192
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New Zealand NoBudy_ 
I went to the ER with a suspected broken rib a few weeks ago. X-rays, shit ton of tests, medication. Total cost: Free In an out of the hospital in 1 hour.
2019-08-23 10:01
Atlas Shrugged
2019-08-23 10:08
what it has to do with it
2019-08-24 03:10
America AKA the shame of humanity
2019-08-23 10:17
"other imaging services - $ 3,499" ninja butt rape
2019-08-23 10:19
#299
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Canada thelegend27 
he couldn't take a selfie so he asked a nurse to post his portrait on instagram, so the cost is 100% justified
2019-08-23 19:53
Im so happy that I was born in Estonia. I got serious health issues by my mum genes. Have free healtcare for rest of my life.
2019-08-23 10:19
Here in Finland all legal residents are covered. But the care isn't free by any means. For example, one day in the intensive care unit costs 3500 euros. That's excluding any medicines, treatments or tests. Just for being there. A while back a Russian guy got a heart attack on his last day visiting Finland. His travel insurance ran out on the same day. The bill for the treatment was 40000 euros. I don't know did he have to pay it all or what happened.
2019-08-23 10:27
It's not a matter of taxes and total money you spend per year in healthcare. You are really fucked if you make healthcare a bussiness. I think it's obvious why EU countries care about prevention and healthy habits in the population. That means healthy people, which is cheaper and also great for people. However, in the US give a shit about that, they care about healing you, that is where the money is. Eat burgers, suffer a heart attack and hopefully we could save you and get paid.
2019-08-23 10:37
#210
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France uNLmofo 
i can't understand why it's so expensive
2019-08-23 10:40
in socialized healthcare the state has dominant position in the healthcare market and can make deals for the fixed prices for operations and medicine but in America there is unchecked price gouging between insurance companies and hospitals
2019-08-23 20:56
#219
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United Kingdom oyyrofl 
This is messed up, id probably just neck myself straight after
2019-08-23 11:42
Lul who pays for that stuff it’s fr... oh wait
2019-08-23 11:44
I'm thankful to live in a country with free healthcare, when I was 9 years old I had a cancerous tumour growing rapidly in my body and there would be no way I could afford the surgery and I got rushed to have an operation, the wait time thing is a bit bullshit.
2019-08-23 11:44
Doctors found out that I have an illness in 2014. I think my medical "help" since then has been like 5 millions or even more :D
2019-08-23 12:00
Wow that's alot, I hope you're doing much better now bro!
2019-08-23 12:02
I mean thats fucked up but nordics have retardedly high taxes for middle class
2019-08-23 12:19
#249
gla1ve | 
Denmark topres 
The USA pays twice the amount per citizen for health care than Canada does. Canada has FREE health care, the USA does not. Guess who gets all that money? Pharmaceutical companies, hospitals, etc. Corrupt shit government tbh.
2019-08-23 12:19
damn I wonder why so many canadians move here instead then
2019-08-24 03:10
Not that many?
2019-08-24 15:45
I don't consider that care "free". Ever heard of unreasonably high taxation to support those types of social programs?
2019-08-24 15:44
#446
gla1ve | 
Denmark topres 
I don't think you understood me. Even though you have to pay, you still pay more to US healthcare per citizen (via taxes) than canadians does.
2019-08-24 16:30
#260
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Netherlands poeya 
thats weird for someone who went into the ER... xd feelsbadmans I geuss next time just die its better
2019-08-23 12:42
#270
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Germany Wurstkreatur 
America is great and has always been lul
2019-08-23 14:40
#273
Zeus | 
Finland 0lter 
just dont go to er 4Head
2019-08-23 16:30
#276
nEGRo | 
Argentina GREATfr 
Ez for dj 30k
2019-08-23 16:44
lel. all dat would be 100 SEK in swedistan
2019-08-23 16:48
#281
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Sweden visionogk 
I had surgery and stayed at the hospital for 3 days and I only had to pay for the antibiotics at the pharmacy which was like 200 SEK
2019-08-23 19:29
Almost $20*
2019-08-24 00:28
#282
Dosia | 
Russia cann0n 
u need to win a lots of bets to care that )
2019-08-23 19:34
Still first country, know how to earn money. From another point ppl can spend 17k on a medicine - whats wrong with it?
2019-08-23 19:35
#287
Jame | 
Finland ggega 
my hospital bill = 0€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€€ let's gooooooooooooooooooooo i would rather die than live in the usa
2019-08-23 19:48
better quality healthcare for higher price, simple
2019-08-23 19:49
#295
Jame | 
Finland ggega 
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD and yet we live longer even tho it's freee GANG GANG triggered
2019-08-23 19:50
#297
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Canada thelegend27 
riiiiiiiiiiiight
2019-08-23 19:51
#444
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Czech Republic C9in2015 
lmao
2019-08-24 16:20
6k for a CT scan hahahaha fucking Jew run country
2019-08-23 19:49
emergancy room - $2 700 xD - 7 star hotel I guess.
2019-08-23 20:58
For that money I'd want the Kings daughters virginity
2019-08-23 21:42
xDD loooool
2019-08-23 21:43
"1st world" ... we all know that US are 3rd world just like Russia, but patriotic Americans love to say they are "the best", to boost their ego, lol :D
2019-08-23 20:57
#335
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United States Nohj_ 
1st world with third world problems
2019-08-24 02:28
+1
2019-08-24 10:57
#434
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United States FarCentrist 
Another guy from a russia clone country calling us 3rd world OMEGALUL.
2019-08-24 15:58
Yeah... russian clone -) country which is located between Germany and Austria -) The country which has free healthcare #anotheramericannut
2019-08-24 16:14
Even the rightest of right parties in Sweden think that health care should be as free as possible. It's a basic right as a citizen come on United Burgers of America.
2019-08-24 00:28
I've Heard Canada has free healthcare and people have to wait 6 months for a surgery at times, many just come to America and pay.
2019-08-24 02:24
Yeah that’s the problem nowadays, especially after 2014 we’ve had some 150,000+ immigrants arrive every year and they put pressure on the health care system. Before it worked just fine. People have been waiting for 9 months to have surgery on their cancer and they died before they got it. In that case i would rather go to the US tbh.
2019-08-24 10:16
Yeah, they tend to take advantage when ever the word free is tossed around.
2019-08-25 00:50
#334
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United States Nohj_ 
xD
2019-08-24 02:27
meanwhile more canadians move to america than americans to canada despite their "free" health insurance. man i wonder why
2019-08-24 03:12
unluko
2019-08-24 02:03
Best medical if you have good insurance or are rich. If you don't have insurance and not rich you just die I think.
2019-08-24 02:23
no it's illegal to be turned away lol. you will get debt ofcourse. maybe don't be a jobless leech
2019-08-24 03:11
Don't laugh but I watched all the seasons of Greys Anatomy. I was already scared of doctors but after watching that I came away with a few things. Hospitals are a business so who's to say they don't recommend a surgery you might not need. So many routine surgeries would end up in death. Interns fight to get in on a surgery.Doctors at times can be there 20 hours straight and go in to a surgery. I did notice that many that needed surgeries had to get it done pro bono or not at all. So I guess they can't turn you away and check you out but don't think they have to do your surgery unless you are already in the life threatening stages like almost dead. Had a friend who had two hernias and yeah he was an idiot, tried to life a car. They said they could not do anything unless one ruptured which backs my case up for yeah, you have to be almost dead.
2019-08-24 03:43
You're trolling right? "I watched all the seasons of Greys Anatomy". Just another overqualified HLTV moron
2019-08-24 15:43
We have a leader that want's to uphold our laws and keep illegals out of our country. Europe just opens the front door and they come running in. I guess Sweden and other European countries did not do research or look up FBI statistics on American crime. You get what you deserve.
2019-08-24 02:29
So you're in the US but too scared of what others think to have your flag. What a pussy
2019-08-24 15:41
#342
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United States SWiFTzZzZz 
There is a thing called insurance
2019-08-24 02:50
#344
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Denmark Farmand 
6000 dollars for a fucking ct scan??? I got that plus a 10 hour surgery and 14 days at hospital with expensive medicine and all the other stuff for 0 dollars
2019-08-24 02:56
The hospitals have a racket running with the insurance companies but it does bring in the top doctors because of the money they make. Not sure if it's still true but I heard they would charge the insurance company 100 dollars for one asperin .
2019-08-24 03:46
xD
2019-08-24 12:14
#346
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United States matteyo11 
“First world with third world problems” Very true for a fair amount of the population. Just Keep waving the flag and chanting USA things will change
2019-08-24 02:58
Many Americans died helping to save Europe in WW II. If WW III breaks out, Europe will be chanting USA.
2019-08-24 03:49
usa 3th world
2019-08-24 03:08
talking trash about america while using an american CPU, american GPU, american operating system. oh and btw the average american has more assets than you. ; )
2019-08-24 03:10
negative assets yes
2019-08-24 11:09
#413
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
So you magically know what kind of pc I have and what specs they are. American Brain HAHAHA
2019-08-24 15:36
Are you about 10 years old? Seems like a 4th grader formulated your argument and typed up your post
2019-08-24 15:40
#420
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Hes dumb don't even take him seriously he thinks all cpu and gpu and os are made in America.
2019-08-24 15:41
#435
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United States FarCentrist 
But they are lol. AMD and Intel are both american. And what else is there apart from Windows, Linux and macOS? All three are american invented.
2019-08-24 16:03
why does this look so fake
2019-08-24 03:16
Guess what if you take care of yourself, eat right, exercise. You'll hardly have to see the hospital/doctor for anything. More $$ in my pocket.
2019-08-24 03:55
Lol this is pretending that all hospital visits are caused by people not taking care of themselves... Ever hear of an accident? Ever hear of hereditary medical conditions which have nothing to do with how well someone takes care of themselves?
2019-08-24 15:39
"Ever hear of hereditary medical conditions" heaheaheaheaheahea, fucking idiot. true with accidents tho, but you have those that are in a lot of accidents in their life and others that are in zero, depends if you are a day dreamer or not imo, ofc you don't have to agree.
2019-08-24 15:45
+1 I got clean water over 10 years ago, never been sick one day since. Would love to work in US compare to my country, only dumb people that eat pills as candy benefits from it, they actually think i get healthy from this, LUL.
2019-08-24 15:51
#381
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Finland D_Scimmy 
No matter where you live - you will pay for healthcare one way or another. It's not "free" anywhere.
2019-08-24 04:32
Yeah but i can do 60 CT Scans in Serbia for one in USA LMAO
2019-08-24 15:32
I know people who were fully insured in USA, but when shit hit the fan, they had people working for the insurance company whose sole purpose was to wiggle their customer out of their insurance claims. They ended up with hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. USA is extremely backward.
2019-08-24 11:04
They must have had shit insurance I had a $95k surgery , only paid 2500 out of pocket, insurance covered the rest
2019-08-24 15:38
These cases happen VERY frequently in your country. Just because you don't hear of them in your own personal network, does not mean it does not happen. No insurance, I repeat, no insurance should be like this. Obama spoke publicly about these very issue years back. It happens. More frequently than it should. It is sadly perfectly legal, and you have no assurance that the company you have your insurance with, do not have the very same type of roles within the company. It is very common. Obviously, the insurance company cannot get out of every case they have, hence why you were covered. If every client has this issue, it would be the number one agenda for every single politician running for the presidency.
2019-08-25 20:36
#394
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Sweden Zeepter 
Yeah same happend to me here in sweden... Oh wait it was FREE!!! hueheuehuehuehehue
2019-08-24 12:49
''free''
2019-08-24 15:29
CT scan 😎😎😎😎😎
2019-08-24 14:07
The bill is the same here in the Netherlands, it's just that everyone has insurance here.
2019-08-24 15:29
#411
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
6k for a ct scan that's an actual scam though let's be honest.
2019-08-24 15:35
I'm amazed that you can get a CT scan when just being brought into ER, here you need to wait 1 til 4 weeks to get a CT scan. I rather pay 17k for instant care than having to long waiting lists and potentially die, cant fuck with your health.
2019-08-24 16:58
CT Scan 6k$ ?????????? WHATTTTTTTT? In Serbia, CT Scan is like 100-150$ LMAOOOOOOO
2019-08-24 15:31
ye lmao like any other country, even if it's not socialised it won't be anywhere near this expensive
2019-08-24 15:33
USA IS A JOOOOOOOOOOKEEEEEEEE
2019-08-24 15:35
Holy shit what the fuck, how is America a first world country lmao
2019-08-24 15:33
#409
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
It isn't name me one other first world country where you can't drink the tap water and get shot for going to school/work.
2019-08-24 15:34
Haha get owned
2019-08-24 15:36
#427
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Macau fivemorning 
for this money you can buy decent apartments in my city you know
2019-08-24 15:47
Even in Brazil its free, of course you can die waiting for it, but it is free.
2019-08-24 15:49
this is the same price in france, but with social and supplemental health insurance is free, in america with supplemental health insurance is free too, but insurance is expensive in usa because no social insurance , but the salary is 2x better in usa so u can pay 300$ per month for insurance...
2019-08-24 15:49
Bet they've got insurance now. Small price to pay when EU taxes are nearly double those of the US for that "free healthcare". US: 70k. ~180 mo insurance/no insurance. 22% Tax Rate. NI = 53k/55k UK: 70k. No insurance necessary. 40% Tax Rate. NI = 42k Be healthy, profit.
2019-08-24 16:05
#447
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Croatia mds818 
tbh I don't mind it, sure we have "free" healthcare in croatia but if u take free healthcare they're more likely to fuck up something
2019-08-24 16:34
if ct scan is 6k how much is for surgery?
2019-08-24 16:46
a heart surgery can easily cost 500 k dollars.
2019-08-25 20:47
The answer is CAPITALISM!!!!! Work hard, get paid, get better health insurance, and then you don't pay as much....
2019-08-24 16:50
#464
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Albania realblizzy 
Yeah Work hardd, get paidd, get better health, get other countries oil and underground resources.
2019-08-24 16:52
EZ lol
2019-08-24 17:26
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