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Top 15 IGL of All Time(CSGO)
shrek | 
Brazil Lulzillian 
1-FalleN Ok, you might be thinking(b-b-but where is gla1ve this is bait right???) but you have to remember that gla1ve was carried by godev1ce every single major win, FalleN, on the other hand, always kept his team in the game, being prob the most impactful player in 2016-2017, even with his downfall in 2018, he’s still the goat igl and top 3 awper 2-pronax It was a hard time deciding between pronax and gla1ve, but I remembered that his name is Lukas, but not Rosenbauer, so yeah, not much to say. 3-gla1ve Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid. One of the mastermind of the game, but helped by zonic and smoke bugs 4-zeus the absolute motherboard for csgo, we will never see anyone like this guy 5-NiKo prob the top 1 right now, aim-wise. Niko had a short, but incredible stint as a IGL, carrying shit players like olof and guardian while calling for the team 6-AleskiB I wanted to really write something here, but I can’t find words to describe his greatness. This guy even fucked frankie, even if she’s ugly as hell. What a hero 7-Chris “De Bong” De Jong even if niko rekt him when both played at Mouz, he’s still the best a normal human can do 8-Friberg even if Nip had their era at the hands of Fiflaren, it was friberg who truly change the way cs is viewed and played as a whole. Top 3 player of all time, I would say 9. Boltz what many don’t know about boltz is that he was the IGL of Immortals and carried them to disband. even if he’s always farting his ass off, this brazillian made a name for himself 10-MSL This is prob the only questionable pick at this list, but this guy made Danish CS and even HundeN learned from him, not more to say. Remember: MSL_1MVP_Gla0ve_0MVP 11-HundeN if I was talking about all interactions of the game, this guy would be top 1, just the incarnation of gabeN himself 12-OCEAN can’t talk about HundeN without calling his NA counterpart, OCEAN. Prob the most skilled player ever, but was not helped by NA CS 13-Happy one of the best baiter I’ve ever seen, would only put Stuttgart ahead of him in this category 14-coldzera could’ve been in top5, but this guy is a fucking snake 15-freakzoid I asked my brother to tell me a god IGL and he said freakzoid, maybe because he’s gay. Honorable mentions: Xantares Lucas1 Pasha Dosia
2019-08-22 22:30
+1
2019-08-22 22:30
+1
2019-08-22 23:12
+1
2019-08-22 23:12
+1
2019-08-22 23:18
Genius
2019-08-23 05:20
+1
2019-08-24 20:32
reported 4 spamming
2019-08-23 22:04
-1
2019-08-24 18:44
-2
2019-08-24 18:44
reported
2019-08-25 05:11
+2
2019-08-24 20:36
+3
2019-08-24 20:36
Jesus...
2019-08-24 21:09
+4
2019-08-24 22:50
#129
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Finland feneburane 
+1
2019-08-23 16:27
why 2 threads
2019-08-22 22:30
HLTV is trolling me(((
2019-08-22 22:36
no mens, you trollink
2019-08-22 22:36
#41
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Georgia Gvprtskvni 
HLTV is a biggest baiter among us
2019-08-22 22:54
+1
2019-08-22 23:04
#3
OCEAN | 
Reunion 2iquser 
remove the 2 next to OCEAN
2019-08-22 22:31
OCEAN is prob top 3 of all time, but could’t find a team that can use all of his power, which is really sad :((((
2019-08-22 22:36
#17
OCEAN | 
Reunion 2iquser 
he doesnt need a decent team. he could carry any team he was in, but he just didnt use all of his power because he was already making lots of money
2019-08-22 22:39
I think you didn’t understand my friend. Every one of his teammates couldn’t support playing next to him because NA CS can’t handle such power
2019-08-22 22:42
#22
OCEAN | 
Reunion 2iquser 
he is a part owner for some nightclub in kelowna. he is making stacks as we speak. if he used 100% of his power he would've destroy the entire CSGO scene
2019-08-22 22:43
+1 sadly we will never see ocean fullpower
2019-08-22 22:44
#30
OCEAN | 
Reunion 2iquser 
this is him at 14% of his power youtube.com/watch?v=OnOmRcWZLkY that hop and crouch was him at 10% youtube.com/watch?v=Vr87jF4QHfs
2019-08-22 22:47
wow 10 is twice my age mens)))
2019-08-22 22:51
wow 10 is twice my age mens)))
2019-08-22 22:51
#4
f0rest | 
Turkey fr0then3 
Top 15 is way too much imo
2019-08-22 22:31
#5
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Romania silksz12 
Happy 13 mslul 10 nice bait
2019-08-22 22:31
?? actual content
2019-08-22 23:08
#97
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Romania silksz12 
happy on 13 and msl on 10, are you high?
2019-08-23 12:16
happy irrelevant after 2015, MSL made danish scene and was always relevant
2019-08-23 13:40
only major mvp igl in all csgo history ???
2019-08-23 13:49
relevant for 3 years rofl
2019-08-23 14:16
#6
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United Kingdom Scarso 
Niko? Seriously? He was a terrible IGL
2019-08-22 22:32
nah, he was playing with 3 bots and still managed to win 2 titles, while being the best player.
2019-08-22 22:34
#13
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North America Straf3R 
Yep one blast event and one with 4 no name teams in attendance.
2019-08-22 22:37
Na’vi/Liquid no namers? LUL
2019-08-22 22:40
#28
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North America Straf3R 
Never said they were. I said that the won a blast event and one event with a bunch of no namers. Jfc you Brazilians are retarded. Blast event with all best of ones and a bo3 grand final against choke liquid isn't a credible win and the e leauge invitational was a joke event. One of those events was guardian carrying. Fyi. Niko had two joke wins and shit everything else.
2019-08-22 22:46
they won EPICENTER and this was the event I was referring too, dumb burger
2019-08-22 22:45
#35
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North America Straf3R 
OMG wow what an IGL at a time when faze was still decent and karrigan was still on the roster. Edit: Navi and chokequid were the only two top teams they played nt tho.
2019-08-22 22:51
faze decent roster? xDDDD olof and karrigan with bot ratings, GuardiaN because average at best and rain barely being a +1.00 player edit: beating the number 2 and 3 teams is not a big deal? NA brain
2019-08-22 22:59
#65
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North America Straf3R 
Sorry what's Brazil doing right now in CS? Yeah Niko has one semi decent win under his belt. That doesn't mean shit. Anyone is a better IGL.
2019-08-23 04:36
#78
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Denmark AstralisGOAT 
Na burger man doesn't realize this is a joke
2019-08-23 05:37
#116
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North America Straf3R 
flare checks out
2019-08-23 16:03
no argument expected from burger
2019-08-23 11:30
#14
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United Kingdom Scarso 
I've had people call better strats than him in mm... He has aim but no-brain... Overall FaZe's performance has been way below what you'd expect from such a team and Niko is a large reason for this...
2019-08-22 22:37
no, faze went downhill after adding NEO, taking the IGL from niKo and destroying team chemistry
2019-08-22 22:40
#21
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United Kingdom Scarso 
You're either baiting or you're blind...
2019-08-22 22:42
0/8 NiKo was the third best player of the 2018 and was having a great year until NEO’s addition
2019-08-22 22:43
#32
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United Kingdom Scarso 
He can be third-best player and be a shit igl
2019-08-22 22:47
??? logic not found
2019-08-22 22:48
#39
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United Kingdom Scarso 
You wouldn't call Simple a good igl but he was number 1... You're just baiting with small brain.
2019-08-22 22:53
s1mple never IGLed before, we already saw what happen to star players like shox or snax when they try to IGL, but Niko was still a top player and a great IGL despite playing with 2-3 bots
2019-08-22 23:03
Did I miss something??? faze is shit af after he became IGL
2019-08-24 19:26
No, not seriously, he's obviously baiting.
2019-08-22 22:43
cry is free
2019-08-22 22:45
#190
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Vietnam comergod1 
Niko is the best IGL of all time imo
2019-08-24 18:36
#7
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Argentina flav1nho 
top 5, will better
2019-08-22 22:32
>niko >igl pick one
2019-08-22 22:33
#34
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Netherlands Son_of_chrisj 
NiKo was IgL for faze
2019-08-22 22:48
Had a good chuckle on that.
2019-08-22 22:39
#16
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
Nice bait, congratz
2019-08-22 22:39
2 threads
2019-08-22 22:44
#10
2019-08-22 22:47
I thought you were being serious at the beginning.
2019-08-22 22:51
#44
NAF | 
United States skzl_ 
he had us in the first half not gonna lie
2019-08-22 22:56
why would think isn’t serious? this my opinion, didn’t said it was right, but at my view, these are top 15 IGL’s of all time
2019-08-22 23:04
#40
s1mple | 
Poland tutatek 
1-Fallen XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-08-22 22:53
god hunden surely needs to be higher on the list
2019-08-22 22:55
explained on the thread why he’s so low
2019-08-22 22:59
#43
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United Kingdom szkk 
WHEAWR WERAWI SAFUCKMAING KARIGAN
2019-08-22 22:55
0/8 xaxaxa
2019-08-22 23:07
#48
2019-08-22 23:09
0/8 where's gobb
2019-08-22 23:15
#59
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United States Kizpif 
0/8 no nitro
2019-08-23 04:24
#60
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United States Kizpif 
flag checks out
2019-08-23 04:24
WHERE IS MR FINN ANDERSON
2019-08-23 04:25
I died when I red #13
2019-08-23 04:29
#63
shox | 
Canada [toast] 
Like 99% i dont agree. I see. You wanted more brazilians on the list, buyass pleb
2019-08-23 04:29
As i can see, the bait is working
2019-08-23 04:31
no stew or nitr0 SMH reported
2019-08-23 04:40
and on another episode of "bra7il bait threads"..
2019-08-23 04:47
#69
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China Blitzer 
TOP 15 IMO (no specific order) gla1ve fallen nitr0 karrigan nbk snax zeus neo taz xizt shox lekr0 msl golden stanislaw pronax
2019-08-23 04:55
finally someone with brain
2019-08-23 11:36
#155
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China Blitzer 
ty m8 have a nice weekend
2019-08-24 02:54
-snax +whoever Then +1
2019-08-24 19:54
#70
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Germany sjena 
lel Top 15 IGL list without Gob b in it gtfo :D:D
2019-08-23 05:05
german cs :DDDD
2019-08-23 13:44
MIBR never won against big nt
2019-08-24 18:29
german cs :DDDD
2019-08-24 18:34
reply needs to have actual content
2019-08-24 18:35
I just sent you a joke, german cs
2019-08-24 18:37
#71
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United Kingdom bigbbanger 
No karrigan and Niko #5, is this a joke.
2019-08-23 05:05
he troll, no one in their right mind will ever put NiKo there.
2019-08-23 05:31
karrigan biggest choker of all time, 0 accomplishments even tho he played with all time greats his whole carrier
2019-08-24 18:35
#284
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United Kingdom bigbbanger 
Hunden and ocean are on the list though
2019-08-24 20:28
Hunden=built danish scene ocean=built NA scene who the ones that made two of the top cs scenes and created a culture around them shouldn’t be there?
2019-08-24 20:29
#72
shox | 
France Zyw0o1v9 
Flag checks out
2019-08-23 05:12
#73
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
The only igl with major mvp > 13 0/8
2019-08-23 05:14
tarik major mvp 0/8
2019-08-23 16:29
#75
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Brazil _wlk93 
Shox? I don't care if G2 plays like pug. He is a great leader.
2019-08-23 05:21
#76
India S2H 
Where is neo?
2019-08-23 05:28
#81
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Sweden elingenieritu 
1+
2019-08-23 05:55
retiring
2019-08-23 13:44
#82
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Sweden elingenieritu 
Get out NiKo :|
2019-08-23 06:01
Fallen was the worst by far ...
2019-08-23 11:32
and won so many titles being the worst, imagine if he were the best....
2019-08-23 16:20
#85
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Indonesia Alekira 
No nitr0 OMEGALUL
2019-08-23 11:35
1 OCEAN 2 HUNDEN
2019-08-23 11:39
0/8 No shox ok??????? But niko there for his aim and skill. lol
2019-08-23 11:39
shox almost destroyed the french scene and lack of achievements as a IGL. but I would say he can be a top 15, if I consider a thing or another
2019-08-24 18:45
in your opinion, no sgares or daps but list includes, coldzera,ocean,hunden and what not. I don't take monkey baits.
2019-08-24 18:47
1. reported 2. daps is a good scout, but nothing more. What did he achieved to make the list? 3.seang@res Lol
2019-08-24 18:50
#89
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Nigeria Eruptor 
1. pronax 2. gla1ve 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. stanislaw 6. karrigan 7. nitr0 8. Aleksib 9. daps 10. HUNDEN
2019-08-23 11:40
#104
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Germany recastMetron 
+1
2019-08-23 13:46
nice list
2019-08-24 12:09
>all time >stanislaw, aleskiB, daps 0/8
2019-08-24 18:36
#90
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Finland eMBeJaana 
how can you misspell the mastermind Aleksib??
2019-08-23 11:40
aleskiB prob will enter the list in the future, but not now
2019-08-24 18:51
#318
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Finland eMBeJaana 
yes it's aleksi not aleski
2019-08-25 03:44
sorry
2019-08-25 05:04
"Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid" ok 0/8
2019-08-23 11:42
#92
smooya | 
United Kingdom Ludio 
ChrisJ De Bong LOOOOL
2019-08-23 11:43
#93
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Australia JAY_DAWG 
here's 10 in no particular order: Aleksib Karrigan gla1ve FalleN daps pronax NEO nitr0 shox tabseN
2019-08-23 11:43
+1
2019-08-23 14:47
#167
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Finland feneburane 
+1
2019-08-24 18:25
tabseN top 10 IGL of all time? 8/8
2019-08-24 18:36
Davidp - his players get poached when he builds a good team but the lad just goes and builds a better one with new players
2019-08-23 11:44
Gla1ve 1 krarrygan 2 fallen 3
2019-08-23 11:46
"Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid. One of the mastermind of the game, but helped by zonic and smoke bugs" After Liquid?! LOOOOOL Liquid greatest of All time? What a bait!! XD 0/8
2019-08-23 11:54
Liquid>Astralis no debate
2019-08-23 13:45
dude whatever... but to call Liquid greats of all time.. cmon.. It's not they haven't the potential to be.. But they are not on the top long enough to be legends like SK 1.6, NiP, fnatic, Astralis etc...
2019-08-23 16:07
They aren’t as dominant as the team you said, but if Liquid now went against any of these teams they would easily destroy all of them, maybe except Astralis. The game evolved and Liquid is the peak of it’s evolution
2019-08-23 16:11
in the end of the year, if they keep winning everything, I will agree with you, till then... nope.
2019-08-23 16:13
no logic at all?
2019-08-23 17:20
Liquid isnt even top 2 at the GOAT list of teams. Astralis and fnatic had way more wins than liquid liquid is dominant yes, but they just have to win more tournemants, and maybe they can overtake them both, which I hope. but rn ? no fucking way liquid is above astralis and old fnatic
2019-08-24 19:28
it’s quite hard to explain because i’m portuguese we have specific words for this case, but let me try. Liquid>peak of the game as it is now, have 5 extremely skilled players, no smoke abuse, no aug abuse needed, no tec-9 abuse needed, no olofboosts. If Liquid already is best era(as you can see a tier4 team beating the #2 team, everyone is skilled as fuck and the level is just sky high). Imagine if Liquid had all those advantages as well, the only thing that’s slightly op rn is the krieg, but only eliGE really uses it só not really relevant. I think they’re the better team, but ofc fnatic or Astralis have greater legacies
2019-08-24 19:33
you cant compare the peaks of each meta. astralis fucked everybody when the cs:go meta was at its peak, like it was with fnatic and even nip. "Imagine if Liquid had all those advantages as well" ?? logic, no player has an advantage wtf. all are equal. just because liquid plays when the cs:go scene is at its peak, doesnt mean they are the goat. Greatest of all time has to win more than others did. then you can factor their dominance into that. 1. astralis ( dominated hard and won back to back majors and many many tournemants, also longest time on top ) 2. fnatic ( did lose some tournemants, but still have 3 majors and the most wins any team have ) 3. liquid ( 5 star players kicking ass. most dominant team, but not very long time. have to play more tournemants to be greater.) 4. lg ( had a huge pause, I would consider the LG era greater than there second one with sk, they were massive at those 2 majors 5. nip ( best run cs:go has ever had, but sadly no competetive scene, most still played cs1.6 or source. thats my list, and I consider achievements and dominance, and I see no other point to weight other factors
2019-08-24 19:46
you really read my post? Liquid is the best team of all time, but teams like fnatic and astralis or SK are greater and have bigger legacies. Liquid had their best year when csgo skill was at highest, who this doesn’t qualify them as the best? I don’t really saw your list as is irrelevant to the argument, as you got it wrong,. Anyways, I said that if Liquid of now had all the smoke bugs, op tec-9 and aug they would be even better, as this would just boost their sky high skill level.
2019-08-24 19:55
do you mean best team in terms of skill?
2019-08-24 20:05
yes, not in terms of legacy or titles, just the “best” team, of course there will be better teams in the future, but as it stands, Liquid holds this spot
2019-08-24 20:08
ok, then I misunderstood you. ofc tl is best with 5 star players basically :D they could even outfrag when you put 5 EU stars in a team tho
2019-08-24 20:12
GG i guess
2019-08-24 20:14
#99
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
1. Best IGL in the world true mastermind Legendary Ex6TenZ
2019-08-23 13:42
#103
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Germany recastMetron 
boltz and coldzera XDDDDDDDDDDDD BRA71L favela fangay
2019-08-23 13:46
german cs :DDDD plastic liquid fan :DDDD turkish immigrant :DDD
2019-08-23 16:11
#159
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Germany recastMetron 
I am german but ok portugese immigrant
2019-08-24 12:05
this thread is a masterpiece
2019-08-23 13:46
Good thread men sadly they deleted my top 20 😨😭
2019-08-23 14:44
that’s sad men, I really liked your top 20
2019-08-24 20:01
what xD
2019-08-23 14:46
#112
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Netherlands Armipotent 
Where the fuck is Karrigan?
2019-08-23 14:47
#113
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Europe PauL(L) 
Astralis - 3 Majors . 1 Grand Slam Liquid - 1 Grand Slam
2019-08-23 14:48
imagine being ashamed of your country, you’re such a 🤡🤡🤡, put your flag and then comment fag 🤣🤣🤣
2019-08-24 20:01
0/8 1-gla1ve 2-pronax 3-FalleN 4-karrigan 5-gob b
2019-08-23 14:48
gob LUL karrigan OMEGALUL but I can understand your top three, even if I think fallen is 1
2019-08-23 16:12
I am mouz fan I am Turkish
2019-08-23 22:02
#115
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Poland Htcobakel 
Pasha never been an IGL. Maybe Taz/NEO.
2019-08-23 14:48
my bad, I thought he was the IGL back in 2015-2016, snax in 2017-mid 2018 and NEO only IGLed at 2014
2019-08-24 18:53
#117
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Greece Petsos 
0/8 bait
2019-08-23 16:04
g2 fan OMEGALUL
2019-08-23 17:20
bait
2019-08-23 16:15
Stopped reading after 1-FalleN
2019-08-23 16:17
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-08-23 16:18
GREAT BAİT TY
2019-08-23 16:19
No seang@res? wtf
2019-08-23 16:26
you are missing s1mple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2019-08-23 19:29
#198
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Turkey DolandaX 
he is a igl ?
2019-08-24 18:45
he is not???? why is he top1 then??????
2019-08-24 20:59
#138
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United Kingdom charlie63450 
nice bait 0/8
2019-08-23 19:30
terrible list
2019-08-23 19:32
#141
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Poland neverbait 
where is neo you dmb haha FREAKAZOID haha more like STEROID
2019-08-23 20:03
#142
Xyp9x | 
Portugal CRMN1 
This post goes from good to 0/8 just like that LMAO
2019-08-23 20:07
#143
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North America X3phyR 
Hold up wheres Kerrigan Where's daps Wheres all the guys who built solid rosters?
2019-08-23 20:10
#144
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North America X3phyR 
*karrigan
2019-08-23 20:10
#147
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Ew. No Karrigan, no nitr0 and having FalleN first? Even after he's shown a horrible inability to adapt to changing metas. This reeks of either bait, or fanboying. Or both.
2019-08-23 22:08
karrigan is a clown, no achievements or individual skill whatsoever, even all time greats such as olof, dev1ce or niko couldn’t carry him hard enough. nitr0 could only achieve shit playing with 3 top 7 players and the best entry fragger of the game. W0W, really impressive.
2019-08-24 18:47
#205
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Karrigan is constantly talked about as someone who does amazing things with teams, then struggles to adapt after the fact. So nice try. nitr0 went from being a star player to reorganizing a squad into a more free form team that has no one challenging them. You want to discredit nitr0 but have Pronax at second. That's fucking delusional dude. I'll accept your opinion if you accept the well known fact that Pronax succeeded due to insane skill in his line up too. He achieved nothing with lesser teams.
2019-08-24 18:51
pronax actually won majors, found talent and built fnatic from nothing, what nitr0 ‘vê done? got proved players and got his ass carried to titles rofl karrigan is still a choker, bad player aim-wise and never achieved shit
2019-08-24 18:52
#208
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Australia Ohnorepo 
nitr0 consistently posts numbers far above pronax. By your logic, pronax was carried. Not nitr0. Karrigan has multiple titles and play off finishes. This has become quite obvious that it's bait. Well played.
2019-08-24 18:54
what? of course looking by numbers, nitr0 rating will be better, pronax played in the 1.0 era karrigan had “relavant”(got his ass fucked by SK 24/7 and couldn’t win them) because of Niko and Rain, suddenly rain stopped performing that well, faze went to shit and niko had to save them you’re clearly baiting or really biased
2019-08-24 18:57
#210
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Australia Ohnorepo 
My guy, Karrigan played in teams well before FaZe. Quit with the half arguments. I'm done talking to a child.
2019-08-24 18:58
and? couldn’t win major even tho he played with dev1ce, dupreeh and even back then he was still burning shit. it’s cool how you cry about karrigan not being in the list because he does “great things outside of the game” but criticize pronax’s position. Get lost, kiddo, you’re just baiting at this point
2019-08-24 19:11
#148
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Sweden Trkmag 
Good thread, pronax #1
2019-08-23 22:10
#150
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Europe thaifinnen 
happy with 2 majors as igl and major MVP is #13 while niko is #5 with no acheviments as IGL... Even Shox>Niko as igl wtf man. sure i understand your top 4 but the rest was shit
2019-08-23 22:13
I said this before, but yeah, maybe not adding shox was a mistake, btw, Niko played in a more competitive era and had good results even with the lack of skill on his team, something happy never went trough. Maybe he could get some spots up, I indeed forgot about his major mvp when making this list
2019-08-24 18:49
#151
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Greece NaviGuy 
Stopped reading at “Astralis 2nd best of all time after Liquid”
2019-08-23 22:13
stoped reding after 1-fallen gg
2019-08-23 22:17
#156
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Lithuania LevelUpp 
Buddo I think you forgot karrigan EDIT: Oh, you're baiting .-.
2019-08-24 03:01
not baiting just won’ include notorious chokers without achievements
2019-08-24 18:28
pasha and cold were never an igl
2019-08-24 03:00
Niko hahaha Does Niko call shit players like Olof and Guardian? The question is, are you always so dumb? say shit to guardian and Olof sure you're 10 years old
2019-08-24 03:01
#160
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Poland trustmeimboy 
NEO?
2019-08-24 12:06
1. fallen? 5. NiKo? Coldzera?! xDDDDD wtf is this list? NiKo might be the contender for the worst IGL in history...
2019-08-24 12:08
niko won 2 titles and both MVPs as a IGL are you drunk?
2019-08-24 18:27
1. pronax 2. gla1ve 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. Xizt (NiP)
2019-08-24 12:10
#166
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Lithuania Tocha 
stopped reading at 1. Fallen and 5. Niko are you baiting?
2019-08-24 18:24
falleN has more majors than the entire CIS scene, only gla1ve and pronax have better achievements as IGL, but both of them had top tier companion, while falleN was the main factor together with coldzera to SK/LG’s success
2019-08-24 18:34
wtf is this list?? Niko at 5???? Yeah no Happy? You are a real csgo noob plz delete your hltv account.
2019-08-24 18:26
happy at 13, are you blind?
2019-08-24 18:26
friberg at 8? you list is a mind fart from a shithole in favela and afterwards your mind fart burned the rain forest
2019-08-24 18:28
friberg made NiP relevant
2019-08-24 18:29
no matter what you say. Your list is pure shit
2019-08-24 18:29
friberg singlehanded made NiP the top team and a major winner. You can disagree all you want, but at least in my point of view, he’s prob top 3 swedish player and the greatest inferno player of all time
2019-08-24 18:32
This is a horrible list.
2019-08-24 18:26
mad g2 fan xaxaxaxa
2019-08-24 18:26
No nitr0? No Happy? No Xizt? Bad list mate...
2019-08-24 18:27
are you blind? xizt? rofl
2019-08-24 18:29
Yeah, my bad didn't see Happy, but yeah nitr0 and Xizt should be there. Xizt might not be what he used to be but they won a major and he helped a lot define the NiP era back in the day with the 87-0 map winstreak... if u tell me that isn't incredible and honorable to mention Xizt on ur list, idk what is lol. Also Karrigan should be there instead of coldzera like, wth? Never seen him IGL for a day, even if he did he didn't do anything better than either nitr0, Xizt or Karrigan.
2019-08-24 19:31
already explained why nitr0 or karrigan. aren’t there, just look at the rest of thread. Xizt wasn’t the IGL in the 87-0, in fact fifflaren was, xizt took the IGL after fiff got kicked and some time after friberg became Nip’s IGL. Even tho, Xizt played with 3 top 10 players when he was IGL, two of them top 3 so no, his achievements with nip as a igl aren’t that big of a thing
2019-08-24 19:43
still, u baiting hard, cold never was a notable IGL (if he even was)
2019-08-24 21:13
Lol no Nitr0?!????
2019-08-24 18:28
overrated and carried by 4 top 20 players, is above average IGL at best
2019-08-24 18:31
Thats why he keep performing and is one of the best fragging IGL right now...
2019-08-24 22:35
logic not found
2019-08-24 22:51
Do you even follow the pro scene?
2019-08-24 23:09
if you play with the most skilled players in each position, of course your own ratings will go up, wtf
2019-08-24 23:28
#182
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Brazil NauseHF 
+1
2019-08-24 18:30
#194
EliGE | 
Kazakhstan miraszd 
what about nitr0? He's best right now
2019-08-24 18:38
playing with 3 top 7 players and the best entry in this game is the only way he achieved shit.
2019-08-24 18:49
u tried to make it look like its not a bait but u gave up in the end
2019-08-24 19:03
#212
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United States jay_320 
People that think Pronax or Xizt are great IGLs are idiots. Do you understand Swedish CS at all? A good IGL is a guy like Glaive or Fallen for that matter. Although Fallen brings way more to a team with his top tier AWP. I mean run a default and let Forest/GTR at the top of their careers or JW/Flusha/Oloph at the peak of their careers is not exactly brilliant IGLing. Glaive innovated with utility usage. Fallen innovated by changing re-takes. Now everyone pretty much plays the same. The difference is keeping your people up. The days of Seangares being able to contrast his style with that of like a Zeus is gone.
2019-08-24 19:09
From your other comments I see you’re quite a guy that really push your opinion, which is sad, because I mostly agree with you in most topics. Even more sad is that is my obligation to report you for offending not only me, but a lot of hltv users as well by calling they idiots
2019-08-24 19:14
#216
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United States jay_320 
Sorry bro.
2019-08-24 19:21
it’s ok, my friend 😃
2019-08-24 19:23
Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid AHAHHAHA those br
2019-08-24 19:15
#119 no scener talking about brazil xaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-08-24 19:27
I see, you are baiter with zero arguments 0/8
2019-08-24 20:32
nice argumentation right there, specially that second paragraph, just a amazing showing of points and overall an astonishing articulation. +1
2019-08-24 20:38
Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid ROFL no need arguments for this baiter
2019-08-24 21:05
nice argumentation right there, specially that second paragraph, just a amazing showing of points and overall an astonishing articulation. +1
2019-08-24 22:20
what the fuck laughed at astralis second best team of all time, AFTER LIQUID OMEGALUL 1IGS < 1 IGS plus 3 majors and triple more tournemants wins also fallen 1st? not biased at all xd 1. gla1ve or pronax ( considering pronax isnt here anymore, would give that point to gla1ve 2. fallen 3. zeus 4. Ex6tienz 5. karrigan 6. Happy 7. neo 8. MSL didnt win much but was always there in top 10 and also made some top5. 9. chris j and gob b
2019-08-24 19:22
#221
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United States jay_320 
I can't believe people think Pronax is a top tier IGL. HAVE YOU SEEN SWEDISH CS. HEY 3 TOP 5 PLAYERS RUN A DEFAULT AND HIT A SITE BASED OFF WHO GETS A KILL. Oloph/JW/Flusha - OK PRONAX WE GOT YOU BRO JUST DONT FUCK UP THE VETO. Xizt/Pronax are trash. Although Xizt is a decent player.
2019-08-24 19:25
4. ex6 HAHAHAHAHAHA 5. Karrigan OMEGALUL 6. Happy actually understandable, I admit that I messed up his position at my original list 7. neo HAHAHAHAHA 9. irrelevant players with no achievements XDDDDDDDDD clearly baiting. #119 about Liquid’s case against Astralis.
2019-08-24 19:26
did answer you on #119 also I want to say that you put NIKO there at #5 where I have ex6 technically cuz I have gla1ve and pronax at #1 in which way is NIKO better than ex6 karrigan neo happy ??? I see no point for niko at all, just because he has skill doesnt mean he is a good IGL. He was a terrible IGL, playing in his cards and made almost no achievements with that team. ( dont tell me that Eleague tier 3 tournamnt and blast is an achievement . and how is Aleksib in that list? he just made ence a top3 team for like 3 months, and got kicked again. thats not enough for a GOAT IGL list. neo happy karrigan and ex6 all made tournemant wins and lead their teams to major wins ( except karrigan lul niko and aleksib did nothing when you compare them also dont come with boltz bro. that major fluke. friberg??? really xd? how long was he IGL 3 months?
2019-08-24 19:36
already said many times why Karrigan isn’t a top IGL. Neo was my bad, I thought pasha was the IGL in 2015-2016, still, Niko stint as IGL is way more impressive, as he made faze a relevant team, winning 3 titles(two big events) in the process while playing with 3.5 bots, as rain was a decent player some times. NEO played with top awper and top riflers his entire career, while splitting the leading duties with TaZ, was a good clutched and prob deserves a top 15 spot looking back. won’t even mind talking about ex6, he was relevant in 2014, let alone the fact the game is much harder now and the meta is way more difficult. You’re using IGLs who had top players all around them and 2 of them were relevant when the scene was pretty weak, the other got carried but niko and rain. I mentioned earlier that I forgot Happy’s major MVP, but again, he got irrelevant as meta evolved and player with top 10 player alongside to get relevant wins. He couldn’t work his way to the top like Niko in Mouz or aleskiB at ence, who had poor teammates but still had astonishing results, the same thing with boltz. Friberg built the swedish scene and was the igl in nip’s second prime(2014-early 2016)
2019-08-24 19:51
Friberg IGL from 2014 to early 2016? did I miss something wtf?? xizt was always the IGL for them Niko is great yeah, but he won like 1 tier 1 event ( without astralis ) and 1 tier 2 event blast eleague was tier 3, with only broken cloud9, big and compexetiy ( thats not a win for me ) Blast was ok, but thats just bo1s leading to only 1 bo3, epiccenter was ok, but no astralis to challenge them. so niko is a top 2 player in terms of skill probably ( he was tho) its like making s1mple IGL and then saying he carried his shitty teammates. niko played in a team with normal strats, but with no teamwork at all. just aiming and when they dont hit anything they lose. how can IGLs like karrigan or ex6tenz, which had massive strategies and made their TEAM actually good, and not themselves, be under NiKo? In terms of skill of an "IGL" he is the best yeah. but make s1mple IGL and you would have the same like NiKo
2019-08-24 20:03
oh booo blast isn’t a tier 1 event, even if HLTV and every analyst say so 😔😢😢😢. Also, never tried to say eleague is a relevant event, I stated two tier 1 events when they beat at least 2 top three teams, both epicenter and blast xizt wasn’t their IGL always, friberg picked a bit between this time, but it’s a bit cloudy who was calling. I know it’s like this fiff-xizt-god friberg also, tell me how far those great strats led G2 in 2018, yep, I expected that. Stop acting as Niko made the team play for him, guardian missed every single flick, olof performance was laughable and you can’t rely on karrigan frag wise, or they maximized niko’s talent or they would become irrelevant
2019-08-24 20:07
you could maybe say niko carried his team to wins, but there is no fucking way he made that with his IGL skill, cuz his calls were shit.
2019-08-24 20:11
yep, he outcalled gla1ve/zeus/nitr0 by calling default calls, yes mens)))
2019-08-24 20:13
yeah and gla1ve outcalled him like 10 times more ? when did faze win against astralis when niko called? 1 bo1 on dust 2 and one useless bo3? gla1ve did it at big events and also at the major
2019-08-24 20:17
wow, gla1ve, who played with 4 top 20 players won against Niko and friends!!!! Dude, can you believe it?
2019-08-24 20:19
Aleksi fucked frankie? Frankie is ugly? Dude wtf
2019-08-24 19:24
frankie isn’t that ugly, but she’s really overrated just because some incels/neckbeards ser her as the perfect gamer girl. AleskiB entering the top 10 next two years men))))👍🏿
2019-08-24 19:28
Well ugly as hell was rather extreme way to say this? No respect for you.
2019-08-24 19:33
yep, I was kinda mad because when I first made this list people were like spamming “frankie is so beautiful and delicate OMG”
2019-08-24 19:37
#220
Zeus | 
Ukraine Sav1aN 
Maldini Ramos Puyol Casilias Iniesta Xavi Gerrard Buffon Lahm Terry Totti
2019-08-24 19:25
actually good list, but slightly overrated to La Liga players. Stil, 8/10
2019-08-24 19:28
#226
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United States Raptorial 
8/8 b8
2019-08-24 19:28
#230
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United Kingdom jellywank 
u forgot karrigan
2019-08-24 19:33
no, I didn’t. He always had star player all around him, couldn’t achieve relevant titles, maybe only IEM Sidney, but besides that he managed to fail with the likes of dev1ce and niko at his side. the only players I could include in this list are shox, neo and maybe move happy some positions up
2019-08-24 19:35
#325
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United Kingdom jellywank 
and niko as igl achieved so much didnt he hahaha
2019-08-25 12:55
#235
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Turkey Flash30cm 
karrigan ?
2019-08-24 19:36
#233 are you fucking blind?
2019-08-24 19:44
0/8
2019-08-24 19:45
0/8 shit bait
2019-08-24 19:55
Sorry, reverse poland, neo deserved a mention, but he only IGL part of VP’s prime, most of it was in TaZ and he failed horribly with young guns such as MiCHU and Snatchie
2019-08-24 19:57
#248
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
NO 1 IS SOME MONKEY AND NOT THE TAZGOD KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 20:02
poland trying to shitalk someone HAHAHAHA imagine getting fucked by the whole europe at the same time HAHAHAHAHA
2019-08-24 20:10
#255
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
HAHHAHAHAH WHAT AGAIN SPEAK UP I CANT HEAR YOU DOWN FROM DEM FAVELAS MONKEY HAHAHAHAHA
2019-08-24 20:10
imagine being germany bitch for 20 years to become russia bitch for the next 50 Xaxaxaxaxa
2019-08-24 20:14
#262
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
imagine being independent for x years and still doing worse than ^ u fucking subhumans hahahahahahha
2019-08-24 20:16
what? can’t understand russian
2019-08-24 20:18
#269
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
hahahaha mad cuz rekt 😳😳😳
2019-08-24 20:22
mad? xDDDDD. I’ve to go now, ya know, got to bang some hot latina chicks, have fun with your man looking polish trungs
2019-08-24 20:24
#289
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
hahahahahahahah comparing brazilian trannies to slav beauties kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2019-08-24 20:34
xaxaxaxaxaxa good luck with your shemales
2019-08-24 20:40
#296
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
expected from a brazilian tranny midget porn fan )))))))
2019-08-24 20:44
mens)))
2019-08-24 22:52
#253
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Canada ActioN_ 
0/8 Super shit rating. Like the worst I've ever seen
2019-08-24 20:09
A LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEIR FLAG IS A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKK THEY COULD PUT ANYTHING THERE AND THEY CHOSE A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 20:18
#270
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Canada ActioN_ 
Hahaha so mad my guy. Like who puts NiKo on 5th place ? Who puts nonamers like Blotz, HundeN, Ocean, Happy and Coldzera (hahahahaha really ?). Plus you said that Team LIquid is the best team of all time. Are you dumb ??? Astralis are number one so keep talking shit 0 IQ
2019-08-24 20:24
A LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEIR FLAG IS A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKK THEY COULD PUT ANYTHING THERE AND THEY CHOSE A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 20:24
#276
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Canada ActioN_ 
Hahaha so mad that you didn't even read what I typed hahaha keep talking shit hahaha
2019-08-24 20:25
#277
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Canada ActioN_ 
Brainwashed brazilian hahahaha
2019-08-24 20:25
A LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEIR FLAG IS A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKK THEY COULD PUT ANYTHING THERE AND THEY CHOSE A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 20:27
OCEAN BIGASSLUL
2019-08-24 20:11
imagine the best thing that came from your country is prokda
2019-08-24 20:20
#286
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Canada ActioN_ 
+1 Plus, don't listen to this nonamer from 3rd world he is brainwashed
2019-08-24 20:30
A LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEIR FLAG IS A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKK THEY COULD PUT ANYTHING THERE AND THEY CHOSE A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 22:52
Jame?
2019-08-24 20:22
#271
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Sweden Onkov 
wtf is this shit list. also no karrigan? -1
2019-08-24 20:24
#233 cry is free edit: wow it rhymes 😎😎😎
2019-08-24 20:24
#278
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Canada ActioN_ 
Living in a shit 3rd world country is FREE
2019-08-24 20:26
A LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK THEIR FLAG IS A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKK THEY COULD PUT ANYTHING THERE AND THEY CHOSE A FUCKING LEAF KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2019-08-24 20:27
#233 cry is free edit: wow it rhymes 😎😎😎
2019-08-24 20:24
#279
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Belarus fan_of_North 
pretty sure you are capable of baiting harder
2019-08-24 20:27
not baiting, my friend. Hope North get legends spot this major
2019-08-24 20:28
#280
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
1. Lord Ex6TenZ true mastermind
2019-08-24 20:27
no.
2019-08-24 20:40
#324
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
Of course yes because Ex6TenZ is the most handsome player
2019-08-25 08:21
7-Chris “De Bong” De Jong 1-FalleN still 7-1 lmao ez caralhoooo
2019-08-24 20:42
why bully mens)))
2019-08-24 22:52
Karrigan number 1 /closed
2019-08-24 22:22
#304
REZ | 
Sweden katt1n 
Astralis 2nd best team of all time, after Liquid. Stopped reading here.
2019-08-24 22:36
ok
2019-08-24 22:52
lol
2019-08-24 22:53
yes, I help him perform and have a chance to win a package for your team
2019-08-24 22:53
#313
NiKo | 
Other Nearby5 
Such a shit list, first of all, flag checks out, fallen is not even near to glave as an igl, you just made something up so you can put fallen first, second of all how can liquid be the best team or all time, hello astralis and fnatic 2 major back to back, liquid 0 majors and the final thing, how is not karrigan in top 5,he might not perform but he is a greate igl
2019-08-24 23:00
you can just read the rest of the thread to see the already typed arguments destroying everything single piece of shit on your dumbass comment, you absolute moron
2019-08-25 05:09
#326
NiKo | 
Other Nearby5 
U are so mad, as I said flag checks out, just because you put fallen first and say glave was carried by device as an excuse, dosen't mean is true
2019-08-25 21:22
#315
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Russia Ou7bReaK 
created by big star, kys
2019-08-24 23:12
reported
2019-08-25 05:08
dont hope any of that is serious
2019-08-24 23:32
5-NiKo..................... -8/8
2019-08-25 03:54
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