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Players that get way more hate than they deserve on HLTV
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North America ENCEneverbeatLIQUIDfinals 
Some hate coldzera, he deserves it Some hate NiKo, he deserves it Some hate Jame, he deserves it (not cuz hes toxic like the other 2 but cuz he is the worst team player of all time) Some hate S1mple, he used to deserve it Some hate Stewie2k, he deserves it Who are players that get hated by HLTV that absolutely do NOT deserve the hate My list 1. Device (top 3 all time CSGO, one of the nicest players, never talks shit about others and never brags, ppl hate him cuz his passive playstyle and question his talent) 2. Neo (Top 3 all time CS, never toxic, even gives f0rest the GOAT credit, yet hes getting a lot of hate recently because hes been playing horrible on faze) 3. TwistZz (Kid is 19 and everyone is calling him overrated/least valuble on liquid, top 3 aimer in csgo history easily and will eventually be GOAT of NA, and 3rd most important player on liquid RN dont @ me, he also isnt toxic) others?
2019-08-24 00:10
#1
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Brazil DaRos517 
kng
2019-08-24 00:11
fuck no fuck that guy
2019-08-24 00:11
#142
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Portugal migboss 
It's so freaking funny when JAME starts to go save and the Twitch chat spams
2019-08-27 15:39
Prove it or
2019-08-27 15:58
Hate is well deserved.
2019-08-24 00:30
deserved guy is a retard
2019-08-24 00:42
Hate is not deserved unlike what retards above say
2019-08-25 22:13
#100
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France Axpie 
Prove it or I will...
2019-08-25 22:37
Prove it or I kill u
2019-08-25 22:38
#104
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United States Hubterbean 
+69
2019-08-25 23:14
+1
2019-08-25 23:30
#102 shows y he got kicked off immortals in the first place
2019-08-27 15:34
He messed up big time, got a second chance and messed that up, too. Wouldn't mind if he was gone for good..
2019-08-28 02:56
Karrigan. Zeus.
2019-08-24 00:11
karrigan yes zeus no, toxic youtube.com/watch?v=hkn1y_U7rS0
2019-08-24 00:11
#107
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Russia CunningCrab 
It's fun video... Man. It isn't serious
2019-08-25 23:27
its a major match
2019-08-26 00:25
#129
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Russia CunningCrab 
And u dont think that if u watch another teamspeak another team it'll be the same thing
2019-08-26 10:01
#116
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Russia NikSmoK 
He releases this video to show game there they cant really do something. Really tilted game.
2019-08-25 23:47
I can't believe I listened to this guy for more than a minute, oh no.
2019-08-27 15:50
#197
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United States MrFornino 
Why karrigan?
2019-08-30 03:07
Jame He's tactically saving so the team's economy isn't wrecked from buying AWPs
2019-08-24 00:12
he wrecks his teams economy by always demanding the awp and rarely delivering did u watch mouz vs avangar?
2019-08-24 00:13
thats why he saves so much
2019-08-24 00:16
if he didnt cripple his teams economy by getting an awp at every oppertunity he wouldnt have to save, sanji literally spent the entire game on a cz/mp9 and they still almost won
2019-08-24 00:17
then he wouldnt be good enough to play on this level
2019-08-24 00:18
Jame is a cancer to his team and the reason they lost that match, i dont give a shit about his precious KDR he is the biggest baiter at this level of cs in cs history Kicking him would unleash the insane talent that is buster and make everyone else on the team look better
2019-08-24 00:20
how is jame stopping buster from performing
2019-08-24 00:24
Did u read #21? Jame is crippling his teams economy just to get himself the awp at every possible round, he delivers maybe 1 out of 5 of these times, his entire team is forced to play around him, his constant saving in at times winnable rounds dont help either
2019-08-24 00:27
but that's how it works, it's not like buster is playing deagle after dropping jame an awp, unlike sanji ofc which rounds aren't winnable? 1v3 in ct is pretty winable, doesn't mean you should go for it every time just to win one time per 10 attempts, right?
2019-08-24 00:30
+1
2019-08-24 00:19
why does NiKo deserve hate?
2019-08-24 00:12
u havent seen enough shit from him if u dont know the answer to that question
2019-08-24 00:15
name one thing instead of dodging the question
2019-08-24 00:16
#30
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United States dabauss514 
He agrees to kick their IGL then pretends he can IGL and proceeds to make his team shit by IGLing really badly
2019-08-24 00:21
#198
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United States MrFornino 
Karrigan's final tournaments with faze werent any better than Niko as igl.
2019-08-30 03:11
You want 1 thing? Ill give u 2 1. Earlier in his career he cursed out all of his teammates and told them to shut up (chrisJ most notably) then he ditches the roster 2. Backstabbing Karrigan that whole situation which u can search im not explaining the whole team also just type "NiKo csgo toxic" and ull get so many results
2019-08-24 00:24
lmao really you go for the classic? he was telling chrisj to shut up because he was arguing [with someone else] way after the round ended idk how people still dont know that... he DITCHES the roster? lmfaooo he wasted his career on that roster for way too long I don't know how you could possibly not commend him for the number of maps he played for mouz I don't think kicking your IGL after he failed is what I would call a backstab. they are worse off now sure but you can't give karrigan unlimited chances was that all? wow dude NiKo deserves all the hate in the world lmao
2019-08-24 00:45
#105
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United States Hubterbean 
Karrigan didn’t fail that team was doomed from the start to much egos
2019-08-25 23:17
#137
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Yes he did if you cant lead as a igl you have failed
2019-08-27 15:33
If you don't want to listen and think you can do a better job as an IGL even though you can't, then the igl didn't really fail, the team failed
2019-08-27 15:37
#143
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
But actually they did listen its after that he failed they stopped listening same happened with astralis
2019-08-27 15:39
Difference was that with FaZe, they got cocky when they played Cloud9. That's why they lost and failed
2019-08-28 00:45
#168
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Thats not the only time he failed them?
2019-08-28 01:00
In your terms, you can practically say every In-Game-Leader who can't get you to win a tournament failed their team, even though it's about the team and not just the 1 guy leading them.
2019-08-28 01:06
#170
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Not really you can see when the team has no structure and that is caused because of a bad igl. And yes sometimes 1 player can make a day and night difference to the team just look at astralis again
2019-08-28 01:22
A team loses structure and integrity due to egos and issues between players in a team. It was a similar situation to Daps. An example of a bad IGL is NiKo as they literally went back to the matchmaking team they were. Dude you should stop talking about things you don't understand. Astralis are currently not doing well due to taking huge breaks (rustiness) as well as competitors catching on to their tactics since they are a tactic based team and you should know that but you clearly don't.
2019-08-28 01:44
#178
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Are you retarded karrigan was a big issue to astralis ba k in the day they kicked him and instantly won the major then kjaerbye left and they had an era. If you dont understand what the igl is supposed to do for teams stop blaming the whole team for not trusting a igl that fks up every single tournament show how come karrigan fails to lead any fking team. Team structure is made by the igl he forces players to do certain things and when it all crumbles time and time again maybe the igl is tradh dont you think?
2019-08-28 02:50
3 months after his kick you mean? After they won the major, they were doing alright and then had an era *as a team* after Kjaerbye left. If an IGL sucks, it's a different story cuz it practically means you have a matchmaking squad *cough cough NiKo*. Also Karrigan can lead his teams but every IGL have their limits. Team structure is actually made by the team. If there's no team, there's no team structure. The IGL is the one who has to try and fix the cracks. Not all IGL have to force their teammates. They can recommend, improvise and sometimes even ask for help. Again, it was a similiar case to daps when he led Optic with people like shazham, stanislaw, naf-fly and rush
2019-08-28 09:44
#185
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
If the igl sucks it doesnt mean that you will have a matchmaking squad lmao. Karrigan has failed two big teams now. Igl is not the person who has to find all the cracks its the whole team, the igl creates a structure for the team, what everyone should be doing mostly and then when in game gathers information from the team to make calls.
2019-08-28 11:55
Jesus that's your average matchmaking in game leader you just described. If the IGL sucks at leading, then there is no proper formation, it'll pretty much be "wanna rush b" or whatever. When Karrigan first joined FaZe, he was actually able to lead them somewhere and that he was able to allow them to grow and become more coordinated. It is even stated by gla1ve himsef that "Replacing karrigan was tough because I actually think he is a good in game leader and also a good player. With that said, I think karrigan had an approach to the game that he could not convince the others was for the best." You do not understand what it's like to be a good in game leader. You don't just lead, you have to find new ways of winning, you have to fix and adjust the team not only the way you like it but how the rest of the team likes it as well. It's not just about what people must do, IGL must also focus on what they can do. They have so much responsibility which is why you will always see an IGL normally lower than others, especially why NiKo became absolute garbage as soon as he became an IGL. NiKo literally brought back the slopiness they had before they had Karrigan.
2019-08-28 12:46
#189
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
You do understand what you just described an igl to be. Every one in the team does those things everyone is thinking of new ideas to improve in the team the igl just has the last say in those calls. Have you ever watched any documentaries of esports. Watch league of legends pros talk about the shotcaller
2019-08-28 22:24
Holy shit does this even look like LoL??? An IGL isn't just a shotcaller. They are the first people a team looks at when they think they need a roster change and the last when the team isn't growing or changing anymore, which is why teams change IGL every 2-3 years in order to have a change in team formation
2019-08-29 00:51
#191
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Are you retarded this is literally the same concept holy fk have you ever played anything competitively, find me a difference betweem lol and csgo shotcallers and igl do you understand that the igl is not the only guy that thinks about tactics and reviews the games, and yes they are the first people the team looks at because they are the ones who create the teams structure like i said
2019-08-29 03:48
Played some friendly LAN as an Awper/IGL, we came 3rd. Shotcallers calls shots and game plans. IGL do more outside the game and try to work out how to utilise his team the best in terms of positioning and tactics in order to utilise the playstyles that suit them. And you also already named one difference for me thank you very much.
2019-08-30 00:50
#194
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Igl means what? IN GAME LEADER. Literally everyone in the team reviews their games thinks about strats and other stuff that you mentioned so no you are wrong again if what you said in was the case astralis would have 5 igls i guess then, if you follow them you would know all of them reviw games all of them help with strats and positioning etc.
2019-08-30 00:56
"An in-game leader does not necessarily have to be very smart, but they have to be someone who is dedicated to the game, who puts in time and effort and someone who is calm and collected under pressure. They must also be able to understand the economy of the game as this is a very important factor in how you approach rounds depending on the opponent's equipment going into that round." I've literally told you everything that you need to know about IGL. It's just a simple google search. The only source hat you've given me is "shotcalling" from LoL so what really do you have?
2019-08-30 02:34
#199
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
So what you wrote here is completely different to ehat you wrote before. Also you are completly ignoring everything that i say cause you dont know what to say to my replies
2019-08-30 10:05
Funny how you say that but I've replied how many times? 8? 9? You haven't even backed up any of the shit you talked about and even contradicted yourself when you asked one difference between a shotcaller and IGL in which you also respected how the business go to the IGL first (which clearly is one difference). I've even been giving you evidence from websites and telling u the difference between an IGL and what you think is an IGL. The IGL is the captain of this boat (or vice, there's alsoo the coach). If you don't want me to ignore what you say since the last 3, 4 comments, GIVE ME PROOF OF UR DEFINITION OF AN IGL
2019-08-30 10:12
#201
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
But i didnt contradict myself lmao the shotcaller also has the same power as a igl. And when you reply to me you talk about different things instead of my arguments. You said that the igl reviews the games and create strats for igls that they have to find the new ways for winning but that is not the case everyone in the team is constantly reviewing games and are trying to help each other on how to play and find ways to win games the igl just think about these things in game and tell the team on what to do. When you are describing a role describe what only that role does cause what you said other players also do.
2019-08-30 14:41
So he used to be toxic (like s1mple), but you just said that s1mple doesn’t deserve the hate anymore. Bruh make up your mind already.
2019-08-25 22:01
S1mple changed his ways and hasnt been toxic since 2017, niko still toxic
2019-08-25 22:02
"niko still toxic" you're clearly brainwashed
2019-08-27 16:51
he is one of the most retarded persons i saw here
2019-08-28 01:26
Flusha back in 2014
2019-08-24 00:12
definately true the dude basically started the LG core's careers and was one of the only fnatic players to not call nip F***OTs at DH bucharest
2019-08-24 00:14
Yeah very cool guy, in 2014 when Fnatic and NiP were competing everyone on Fnatic was toxic af except Flooosha.
2019-08-24 02:21
in the first roster only flusha wasnt toxic in the second roster both flusha and olof werent toxic
2019-08-25 21:57
I respect Flusha so much for what he did for LG , and for being a fucking man unlike his teammates when they beat NiP at DH Bucharest , sure , he didn't shake GeT_RiGhT's hand , but he didn't talk shit or insult him. He didn't DISRESPECT him.
2019-08-25 23:40
im pretty sure both he and devilwalk tried to shake hands but jw pulled them back
2019-08-26 00:26
#8
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Slovakia VladO.  
GeT_RiGhT
2019-08-24 00:12
def top 5 1.6 top 5 GO top 3 all time never did shit wrong
2019-08-24 00:16
#27
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Slovakia VladO.  
yes mens))
2019-08-24 00:20
Definitely Device, he has literally done nothing wrong lmao
2019-08-24 00:13
which is why i have him first
2019-08-24 00:14
#91
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Iceland Iceland 
I think people hate him cus he is so overrated as a player... The team is good but he isn't the star of the team and definitely not the best player in the world.
2019-08-25 22:08
you dont watch cs if u dont think device is the star of astralis yea he was never the best player in the world but he was top 5 for 4 different years everyone who says bs like "dupreeh or magisk is the real star" dont know what they are talking about
2019-08-25 22:12
#96
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Iceland Iceland 
Dupreeh is the 2nd best player in astralis (imo) but Xyp9x is obviously there star player and they would be nothing without him. I don't hate dev1ce but he just isn't the best player in astralis he is either 2nd or 3rd And btw I think I have followed the scene much longer than you
2019-08-25 22:15
oh my god i know u didnt say that if u actually watch astralis/tsm/dig/questionmark u would know that 1.) magisk is currently their 2nd best player behind deivce not dupreeh 2.) XYP9X IS SUPPORT NOT STAR HE WAS NEVER STAR SINCE 2014 3.) ur braindead calling xyp star player of astralis is like calling stew star of liquid instead of elige or twistZz 4.) He is EASILY AND BY FAR their best player and star player Have u actually watched astralis before? or do u just go with the bandwagon that device is passive so hes shit and dupreeh and xyp9x are better even tho they arent even back in the TSM days when cajun took more of the awping duties, device with rifle was still the star player of astralis ur the exact reason i have device on the list the disrespect on his name is insane, all these haters only like flicks and noscopes yet those flicks and noscopes dont win majors like device did s1mple won how many majors/t1 events? guardian won how many majors/t1 events? kennyS won how many majors/t1 events? Device has been a consistent 1.2 rating for almost 4 years and has been playing at a top level this year dispite dupreeh gla1ve and xyp9x playing like shit this year (dupreeh wont be top 15, xyp and gla1ve wont make top 20 unless something changes in the remainder of the year) I dont care how long uve been following the scene, ive been watching for a pretty long time and a team i didnt watch much was VP, so i wouldnt go talking about VP acting like i knew shit, ive been watching TSM for years know and it pisses me off when somesome shits on device for his passive playstyle, especially a joke like u calling xyp a star, hes the support he knows he the support
2019-08-25 22:24
#98
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Iceland Iceland 
Device isn't the best player in astralis I could waste half an hour pulling up important matches where device chokes... He isn't the most important player in the team.... Xyp9x is the player that saves them in important rounds the player that clutches like crazy all the time... The team doesnt revolve around device and he isn't the important player that you are acting like he is.... The team would easily work without device but it wouldnt work without xyp9x.... Kid is overrated and you can say what you want but it wont change anything.
2019-08-25 22:25
#99
Xyp9x | 
Denmark MAMS 
Xyp9x is not the star player dude what are you on about? He's my favorite player on the team but deffo not the star, he is and has always been support + clutchmeister.
2019-08-25 22:34
the man said device was astralis' 3rd best player honestly idk if hes baiting
2019-08-25 22:38
yup, bait or brain dead. 100% sure
2019-08-25 23:32
#103
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Iceland Iceland 
What does star player mean for you guys??? Device is obviously the most popular and if that is what it means to be star player than okay he is the star player but xyp9x is the best player in the team... People like you guys that look too much into stats are the reason device is hated cus he has inflated stats. Device is a great player but he isn't the most important player in astralis... He can be replaced but xyp9x wont be replaced cus he is the most important player in the team.
2019-08-25 22:52
Best player in csgo to be the most consistent ever, let's just random swap him out with cajunb or like JUGi, it will work.... xaxa.
2019-08-25 23:32
#131
Xyp9x | 
Denmark MAMS 
What does star mean to you dude? Thought you were trolling....Xyp9x is support, he is not expected to carry, he is not expected to pop off, top frag or be the guy that steps up when team is struggling. He is an amazing player and his clutches and plays at times are vital at times, proving he is a valuable member of the team BUT still he is not the star player of the team.
2019-08-26 22:11
Star player is the man of the team, the guy who puts up the kills, the guy who cannot be replaced by just another good player, take 2018 astralis, replace device with s1mple and that team wouldnt be nearly as good even tho s1mple is also a star, replace s1mple with device on navi and that team wouldnt work either stars cannot just be replaced even by other stars but replace xyp9x for someone like a prime krimz if he spoke danish or dupreeh for a prime fer if he spoke danish, or maybe even a prime electronic if he spoke danish and that team would be just as good if not better, the roles dupreeh and xyp9x play are roles that are replaceable, yes they are very good at those roles but being very good doesnt mean they are the only ones that do it, device is the only one in the world and in history that can put up consistent 1.2+ ratings he is the most consistent player of all time a top awper (even if fans will hate him for his passive playstyle) and a top 3 player of all time if u count achievements+stats and not just stats
2019-08-27 15:30
#138
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Iceland Iceland 
The reason why device has those consistent stats is cause he has players like dupreeh or xyp9x in his team and you can't just make up bullshit about if other players spoke danish... Shit doesn't work like that... Take xyp9x out of the team and replace him with any other danish player and I promise you the team would take much more damage than replacing dev1ce with just another player... The team doesn't need a player who has inflated stats(or in other words a "star player" like you call him) If dupreeh and xyp9x weren't in the team device wouldn't be able to play this passive style where he counts on his teammates to save his ratings.
2019-08-27 15:35
#195
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Malta ciORAN_NT 
Please, talk with facts stop your bullshit "if", stop going around talking useless and shitty hypothetic facts guys, this website is so fucking retarded, learn how to argument please.
2019-08-30 02:25
#106
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Mongolia k0ng0 
I think dupreeh is easily the best player in Astralis. XyP is like he activates when he realizes it's a clutch situation etc, wich is also super good but dupreeh is like, consistent kills through all games all the time. I agree with u on device being 3rd though.
2019-08-25 23:25
Styko Zeus gla1ve the three you named (even tho neo is actually a bit overrated imo)
2019-08-24 00:13
styko yes gla1ve sure zeus no youtube.com/watch?v=hkn1y_U7rS0
2019-08-24 00:14
#25
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Slovakia VladO.  
+1 for styko and gla1ve
2019-08-24 00:19
people hate on GTR and Karrigan :(
2019-08-24 00:14
both are valid karrigan top 5 CSGo IGL imo gtr top 5 player CS all time in both 1.6 and GO top 3 for both combined both havent done anything wrong, both get hated too much
2019-08-24 00:19
and really both are super genuine people in general
2019-08-24 00:17
still device is #1 on my list no changing that the dude is one of the best players of all time, one of the best people of all time, and one of the most hated cuz of his passiveness
2019-08-24 00:22
#24
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Slovakia VladO.  
+1
2019-08-24 00:18
Flusha, styko, gla1ve, hunden, female gamers :)))
2019-08-24 00:20
Flusha definately Styko yes Gla1ve sorta Hunden always loved so he doesnt count Female gamers are sexist af, MGE level and making money only because they are female, if there was no sexism female gamers would be out cuz they arent even t10000 for males
2019-08-24 00:22
Maybe they are making money because it is profitable. My issue with dudes is that literally, EVERY GUY thinks that he is better than EVERY GIRL, which is obviously not true. That they are on average less skilled than pro cs players, of course. Nobody is denying that. However, some of them are not MGE level and if you are really honest with yourself, even you realize that. Hell, even I am global/supreme.
2019-08-24 00:24
Every male cs pro (player making money) is better than every female cs pro (player making money) that is a solid fact
2019-08-24 00:24
Yea majority, maybe not everyone. People focus on girls mistakes way more though, if I watch tier 2 teams I see a lot of stupid plays and whiffs etc, but when a girl does it, shit breaks loose. Like guys never miss, make stupid plays, miss nades, miss mollies. Stop being so biased. Some girls are still in FPL and holding up OK. You are not by default better than girls so stop feeling so superior holy shit.
2019-08-24 00:27
i never said i am better than all cs playres im prob better than most but im not making money am i? my point is if u ignore genders all female pros would be out of business
2019-08-24 00:29
They are making money because it is profitable for somebody, and that's just how business goes. Who do you think is to blame? You think girls watch girl gamers and make business profitable for this whole thing to exist? You have nobody but yourselves to blame.
2019-08-24 00:30
it's same in every other sport
2019-08-24 00:51
#58
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United States ThaChrisH 
I don't agree with either side here I mean Juliano outlasted Cadian. zAAz. SpawN, and Happy in the 1v1 tournament hltv.org/events/2225/htc-1v1-invitationa.. also not every guy thinks that they are better than every girl. It's just not as interesting/ entertaining to watch.
2019-08-24 00:39
#45
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Portugal NabasKi 
it's still hard though, even the best female teams get eliminated by male teams nobody has ever heard about. There are obviously some guys worse than them, but those probably don't even compete to the level of facing them in a match.
2019-08-24 00:27
A lot of teams that are now in major, nobody has heard about 2 years ago. Let that sink in.
2019-08-24 00:28
#56
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Portugal NabasKi 
which are male teams, that probably eliminated some of the female teams in the qualifiers
2019-08-24 00:39
"Being female is hard"
2019-08-29 07:01
#57
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Denmark MeToxi 
Im actually looking forward a lot to the dreamhack open with that one female team. It wasnt my girls in CPH Flames fe who qualified but it'll hopefully still be interesting to watch. This will be one of the first times we get to see proper matches with female vs male.
2019-08-24 00:38
#59
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Portugal NabasKi 
really? I'm curious to see how is it going to go for them
2019-08-24 00:40
#63
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Denmark MeToxi 
I hope they'll put up a fight but im bracing myself for a onesided affair. The pure experience of the male teams should easily outdo that of the female team.
2019-08-24 00:43
yea, i could not care less if they got a dick or a pussy... if you understand the biology of genders, it's the same in computer games just as sports in general... "best female teams get eliminated by male teams " Yes, when the best team in the world after they won the FE world cup or what ever, lost to absolutely no namers in NA... ofc no one would follow this.(Was way back, never seen team in EU do something either, prob same fate.) Never seen a girl in FPL either, last line not for you.
2019-08-25 23:42
#127
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Portugal NabasKi 
exactly didn't know about that world cup thingie
2019-08-26 01:15
#33
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Germany naeqode 
Stewie deserves some hate for BMing everyone but also some more credit for playing a role basically identical to Taco and still having 2nd best impact rating on Liquid
2019-08-24 00:23
u said it urself stew deserves some hate if u read carefully u can see i didnt say All hate stew and he deserves it i said some hate stew and he deserves it
2019-08-24 00:25
#37
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Portugal NabasKi 
It's always debatable whether the hate is deserved or not, regardless of who the person in question is.
2019-08-24 00:24
it is not debatable that device doesnt deserve hate
2019-08-24 00:25
#55
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Portugal NabasKi 
it is. Your hating standards are different than mine, if you know what I mean. I might consider something about him that makes me hate him and thus making that hate completely deserved in my point of view. For instance: imagine someone that many people consider to have a punchable face. That's a reason for some to hate the guy, and it's completely deserved from their perspective
2019-08-24 00:30
Having a punchable face isnt something that u can control, u shouldnt be judging ppl for their appearence but by their actions and the way they present themselves, device is a class act whereas ppl like cold and JW are jokes
2019-08-25 22:02
#128
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Portugal NabasKi 
I 100% agree
2019-08-26 01:15
#41
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United States sh0ckwavemodz 
Kjaerbye - made a risky decision as a young player and gets a lot of flak for his decision to leave Astralis in 2017 especially with how he did it. Astralis is fine now and the move seemed to have worked out for both sides. seized - credited with killing Gambit and Winstrike because of how after his short stint with both teams they both put their active lineup on hold. I'm a Gambot fan and know it's not all his fault. Agreed with YuNOliek, female CS players get shit on a lot.
2019-08-24 00:25
NGl i was really only talking about top players (ik neo isnt top anymore but he is top all time) So seized wasnt on my mind
2019-08-24 00:27
#61
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Denmark MeToxi 
I know it feels like ages ago but kjaerbye didnt leave astralis until early 2018
2019-08-24 00:45
#82
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United States sh0ckwavemodz 
Officially left Febuary 2nd, 2018 but didn't resign his contract with Astralis after they bombed out of the ELEAGUE Boston major in 12-14th place in early January. You right but point still stands.
2019-08-25 16:48
#83
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Denmark MeToxi 
It was merely a factual correction ;)
2019-08-25 18:33
Kjaerbye is a 🐍
2019-08-25 23:50
#42
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Poland ruhoks 
frozen, he used to be toxic but most of us were so fast getting upset at his age
2019-08-24 00:26
he doesnt get nearly as much hate as the dudes i listed yet all 3 of the guys have cleaner records than him
2019-08-24 00:28
#48
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Poland ruhoks 
yeah but still, some ppl were blaming on him
2019-08-24 00:28
prodka the most hatereded T.T
2019-08-24 00:30
Support players in general get a lot of unnecessary hate, gold nova players don't understand the importance of good support player
2019-08-24 00:40
+1
2019-08-24 00:43
True
2019-08-24 02:01
Good support players get unnecessary hate, bad support players on solid teams get unnecessary support Individuals like Styko have shit stats but have proven they were a vital component to their team and a good support player Individuals like XseveN deserve to be shat on for their shit performence and being hard carried by his teammates especailly post aug nerf and really arent nearly as important as his fans suggest
2019-08-25 21:59
#124
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Finland Kasvain 
sami was saving his testosterone for the major, just you wait and see
2019-08-26 00:31
allu BOT hahaha i don't why i hate him to be honest but it's natural to hate him when you look at his face, you can't deny it
2019-08-24 00:44
Did his nuts make you question your sexuality?
2019-08-24 00:49
no, his rather like typical victim
2019-08-24 00:52
hltv.org/gallery/view/128409 actually like a retard
2019-08-24 01:00
It is pathetic to insult peoples looks without showing yourself off
2019-08-24 01:06
sorry didn't know the rules, my photo: i.imgur.com/g8Q0wHY.png
2019-08-24 01:26
How original
2019-08-24 02:01
Who the fuck is that guy ? I've seen him many times in a picture where he's in a sports car when someone says "Who cars"
2019-08-25 23:43
Lockerboy
2019-08-26 00:15
Worst logic ever its the exact same logic as "you cant say a pro did shit when ur not a pro" u dont have to be good at something to critique someone else on that thing
2019-08-25 22:03
#68
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Finland M0nzaa 
ehh i would call that more of a meme than anything ill willed :()
2019-08-24 00:49
imo he is w8 too long a "pro" with his low skills just like 7ACO, and pasha
2019-08-24 00:54
#72
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Finland M0nzaa 
id say hes more so inconsistent than bad, he has very good games and games where he misses the easiest shit :()
2019-08-24 01:00
Never forget his 1v1 on nuke, when he use glock on defuser while he got awp... do mean he also had the burst activated on it.... I do think his a good player, but when his bad, oh myyyy! He either GOD or bot!
2019-08-25 23:44
Nice politics, none of really deserve shit or hate they're just video game players that make 5 times more money than ya and you ain't even know them personally, anyone hating on anyone they don't know is a sad fuck lmaoo
2019-08-24 02:24
#145
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Indonesia tsokai 
Nice, everything is politics
2019-08-27 15:42
its a metaphor for autism
2019-08-27 16:22
#80
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Brazil LordQ 
GTR for sure
2019-08-24 02:27
Zyawo
2019-08-24 02:29
who hates zywoo?
2019-08-25 22:01
Lucky Boddy DEVIL
2019-08-25 22:12
T1 players only sorry im sure they are plenty of other nice t3 players but u know we dont know them all
2019-08-25 22:13
#146
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Indonesia tsokai 
They're way way way way too incosistent
2019-08-27 15:42
#115
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Austria Schwerpunkt 
JW I used to hate him a lot, but I realised it was unjustified. I think most people are angry about that handshake thing years ago, but it's been exactly that, years. Time to let go of that hate.
2019-08-25 23:45
bad choice players like device get hated for ABSOLUTELY 0 REASON players like JW get hated for his actions which include the bucharest incident and talking shit about a bunch of other players
2019-08-26 00:29
#126
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Austria Schwerpunkt 
As I said, the Bucharest Incident was years ago, and his anger is somewhat justifiable if you know the context of his anger. And I'm pretty sure he's joking 100% of the time he makes jabs, or 'talks shit' about other players.
2019-08-26 01:08
yeah that doesnt exactly make him a nice/good person u cant find a single remotely toxic thing device did he is the nicest guy in the scene yet still gets the lionshare of the hate cuz of his playstyle
2019-08-27 05:20
device for 0 resasons? After Astralis got to the Top, device started looking down on people and didn't seak with them anymore, that's why he cried in front of cold when he confronted him with his behavior at a party. This holds actually true for the whole Astralis roster.
2019-08-27 15:48
u realize cold lied about that right? cold (proven toxic) made 4 claims, and all 4 claims had the other person saying he lied, none of them were proven either
2019-08-27 15:51
From where do you have the information that the device story at the party (where he got confronted and cried) is a lie?
2019-08-27 15:52
From where do you have the information that colds story is the truth? idk i just guess if everyone is calling cold a liar on other cases then he is prob lying about this one aswell either everyone else is lying or cold is lying, and tbh given colds track record and the fact that he is the only person in his corner ima say cold is lying and btw why would 6ft device cry in front of a hairy midget cold
2019-08-27 15:53
Why would he make up such a story in a public interview. I checked devices solcial media and there is literally no defense, no justification regarding that topic from his side. Also, coldzera is not the first person who commented on Astralis players behavior, NiKo did previously as well. There is no indication that this story is wrong and I think that device would negate such a claim (like the one that he cried at a party) publically
2019-08-27 15:56
So because he doesn't say anything about that means it's the truth? Nice assumptions buddy
2019-08-28 01:58
Btw did you know dev1ce replied with not crying and not even wanting to tak to coldzera. Coldzera also lies a lot twitter.com/DonHaci/status/1161640866852.. Where even is the source of NiKo saying it's true
2019-08-28 02:08
W0xic Apex
2019-08-25 23:53
+1 especially apEX. He is a pretty nice guy but his ADD/ADHD make him seem a bit toxic
2019-08-27 15:45
#122
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Finland Kasvain 
allu right now after aleksib got benched a lot of people think it's allu's fault
2019-08-26 00:27
allu has never proven to be a very kind person, hes always been a meme device and neo has proven to be very nice people, insane talents, yet still get hated on a lot different status for those 2 than allu
2019-08-27 05:19
I'm pretty sure allu is the main reason why Aleksib got kicked. Aerial was a close friend of Aleksib and Sergej and xseven are way too insecure/shy/non-leading to initiate a kick of their IGL.
2019-08-27 15:44
1.device = most consistent player in history of csgo and amazing guy 2.jw & flusha = legends,3 time major winners,mvps,hilarious guys,yet ppl hate them cuz they're fat and didnt shake gtr hand a century ago/cheat accusations? 3.karrigan = legit goat igl,made 4-5 t1 tournament winning rosters from scrambles,improves any team he joins by a large margin
2019-08-26 00:34
who hates NiKo come here
2019-08-26 10:02
Why does Niko deserve hate? He seems like nice guy that got bad reputation based on rumours.
2019-08-27 05:22
#135
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United States stephcurry30 
koosta, gtr, device, stewie
2019-08-27 06:21
Stewie deserves it tbh
2019-08-27 15:48
#140
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France Huvi 
Zywoo ,he gets trashed by hltv plebs but he is the nicest guy i know
2019-08-27 15:35
Device, ZywOo, GTR, Neo, RpK, ALEX, gla1ve, karrigan, TACO, daps, tiziaN... list goes on and on. Retards on HLTV always bash them while other pro players praise them. Guess who really knows if they are good or bad players, pro players, or retards on HLTV?
2019-08-27 15:42
Absolute BS imo. cold maybe deserves a bit of hate, s1mple still deserves hate (he is still toxic, even though he has himself under control better) , stewie2k doesn't deserve the hate he gets (cloud9 was a fluke; tarik and stewie2k knew that), he did not do anything wrong. device deserves his hate (which is not even big) because, as coldzera said, he looked down on people and didn't speak to them anymore as soon as they were at the top (that's why he even cried at a party in front of cold) something that someone like stewie never did.
2019-08-27 15:42
Glaive cuz punchable face asf.
2019-08-27 15:45
No one hates Twistzz wtf
2019-08-27 15:47
GeT_RiGhT and Fifflaren.
2019-08-27 16:00
dont jump on the hate heaton love fifflaren hype train until its proven, i mean think about it if it were true for u would u wait 5 years? then put it on twitter instead of finding immideate legal action? i admit it looks bad for heatons side rn but nothing is proven yet
2019-08-27 16:03
Who said I was jumping on anything? I didn't say Fifflaren because he's possibly been screwed over big time, I said Fifflaren because he's TO THIS DAY one of 5 NiP players to ever have won a Major, yet he still gets hate for being an awful player.
2019-08-27 16:49
Why do Stewie and NiKo deserve hate?
2019-08-27 16:07
NBK
2019-08-27 16:24
#173
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Italy bennyhana 
sunny
2019-08-28 01:54
Literally every single player
2019-08-28 02:00
Why does NiKo deserve the hate he gets?
2019-08-28 02:09
#181
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United Kingdom aight_bet 
shut up. dev1ce deserves hate. how can you even cry when coldzero makes fun of you. AT A CLUB EVEN with people around you.
2019-08-28 09:53
NBK
2019-08-28 09:57
SmithZz back in the days
2019-08-28 10:01
Stopped reading at: Device top 3 all time CSGO
2019-08-28 10:04
#187
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Germany jirschi 
Tizian cause he made fun of thoorin. Or is He Loved Not hated?
2019-08-28 11:59
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