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Ence Future
EliGE | 
North America Beecs 
Whether or not ence fans were willing to admit it, the team was on a downward tragectory since the AUG nerf, they played 2 notable events with the weakened aug and didnt show anything impressive in either meeting Last place at cologne speaks for itself 2nd place at chicago looks good on paper but looking at the matchups will instantly debunk any hope from that run, they beat teams like heroic, renegades, and mibr with zews standin 2-1, and lost 0-3 to liquid in the most one sided affair in bo5 grand finals history, their run was simply a stroke of luck from vitality underperforming and not facing them in the groups Now that they kicked aleksib, their 2nd youngest player and a lot younger than their 3rd youngest, they are now left with 4 old (by cs standards) players and sergej, out of those 4 old players Aerial has been absolute horseshit since his MVP run at blast madrid putting up basically a 1 rating since his mvp Xseven has been absolute horseshit since the aug nerf Sunny was unimpressive in his last stint with mouse almost 8 months ago, and he has been inactive since, and then allu, who has been solid I predict a fall to around the 8-9 for ence until another roster change happens, this move was 0 IQ
2019-08-25 02:40
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2019-08-25 02:40
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#2
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
Ence move 0 iq
2019-08-25 02:41
meh the cologne placing is such an overplayed card by ence haters, lost a bo1 to heroic and a bo3 to vitality
2019-08-25 02:42
11 replies
the bo1 loss vs heroic is something that should not happen
2019-08-25 02:48
4 replies
Heroic is a good upset team, you lose bo1's sometimes its a thing, you cant play 100% all the time Shit, Vitality just lost to DreamEaters and NRG lost to Syman, it happens lol
2019-08-25 02:52
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#13
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Finland NApp
Yeah but ence is known for losing to tier 3 teams xd
2019-08-25 03:08
2 replies
because finns dont give a fucccc about no names lmao xd then they get rekt
2019-08-25 03:10
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#15
ile | 
Finland NApp
Happiest country in the world :)
2019-08-25 03:14
#22
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
losing to heroic in a bo1 in inexcusable ur forgeting from first major --> boston it was all bo1 group stage yet no one was bitching about it, bo1 in groups isnt nearly as bad as ppl are making it out to be rn a top 3 team shouldnt be losing to a top 15 team under any circumstances also losing to vitality is a very big deal u cannot write it off, it shows once again ence lack the ablility to beat a t1 team when it mattered, if u havent been counting the only time ence beat a t1 team when it mattered was at BLAST BLAST and it was vs a astralis that was very inactive at the time aside from that, they faced liquid at dallas and chicago, dallas was close, chicago not at all faced vitality a shit ton of times and lost them all faced inactive astralis once at blast and lost faced navi once at starseries and lost they only beat teams like faze/furia level, their inability to repeat their success at the major of beating a t1 team at a big event only goes further to suggest they fluked
2019-08-25 06:20
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"a top 3 team shouldnt be losing to a top 15 team under any circumstances" first of all ence isnt top 3. secondly vitality disband??
2019-08-25 07:34
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#47
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
thats why i had top 3 in quotes in a different reply, ence was ranked top 3 at the time i believe
2019-08-25 21:56
hltv.org/stats/matches/mapstatsid/88149/.. liquid not tier 1 confirmed
2019-08-25 07:50
not even worth arguing, have a good day :D gonna go watch matches
2019-08-25 16:37
For example on the Vitality case. They havent played much BO1 so Vitality gets almost automatically one map lead on BO3. Ence's permaban is Vertigo Vitality can just ban Ence's strongest map, Train. Ence have to pick Mirage or Nuke, and usually it is Nuke cause Vitality is better on Mirage than on Nuke, which means that Vitality gets CT side on Nuke. Vitality can pick Overpass, Inferno or D2, and looking on the matchup maps, and winrates, they should pick Overpass, cause Ence isn't that good on it. The veto should be like: Ence ban Vertigo Vitality ban Train Ence pick Nuke Vitality pick Overpass Ence ban D2 Vitality ban Inferno Mirage is the third map. Vitality is hard matchup cause they have better map pool, and they can just instantly take down Ence's best map, as Ence is banning Vertigo. Ence have a chance to win the best teams on BO1 and on BO3 but not in BO5, cause their map pool is not that good, as we saw on Chicago. Removing the IGL and giving the most experienced player the IGL role, wasn't that bad pick, because they can get more firepower with suNny. We'll see what happens on the future. Will NA dominate or will EU take the #1 again. Edit: 9-4 Matchups for Vitality. hltv.org/matches/2335479/ence-vs-vitalit..
2019-08-25 16:55
#4
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Switzerland Jeded
Yeah move was stupid but obviously the ENCE core had a problem with Alexsib, and if the players wont trust their IGL you might as well bench him and change up the roster
2019-08-25 02:43
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#17
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
especially if u have 2 huge bots avaliable for kicking
2019-08-25 06:12
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#38
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Switzerland Jeded
NA brain
2019-08-25 07:56
+1 but dont try to talk sense here, they rather circle jerkk each other
2019-08-25 07:04
8/8
2019-08-25 02:45
#8
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Europe letqpena
They might have a good run i.e. not going out 0-3 in this major despite their differences but can't say shit for upcoming tournaments. Luckily BLAST Moscow is right after the major and it'll show if allu's/suNnys igling is good enough. suNnys rifling should be good, he has put in a lot of hours and if you can draw any conclusions from pug matches, he's in great form despite the hiatus. And age is irrelevant. allu is an old fart but has been rock solid which I would have never guessed.
2019-08-25 02:53
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#18
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
not 0-3 but they arent in my top 8 pickem age is very relevent after 24 all players decline except f0rest but no one on ence is equal to f0rest
2019-08-25 06:12
#9
broky | 
Portugal yoloho
I agree, moving Aleksib for Sunny was the last move most were expecting tbh. Would be a much smarter decision to move either Aerial or xseven, Aleksib was smart and still young as u say. They could easily rise back with Sunny on their side, now we just have to wait and see cuz it looks blurry for them
2019-08-25 03:01
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#19
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
especially xseven considering aerial is just in a slump he can recover xsevens entire career was shattered by the aug nerf
2019-08-25 06:13
1 reply
+1...
2019-08-25 14:16
#10
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Finland DTeeVee
Fluke team, won nothing and has nothing to show for.
2019-08-25 03:02
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#23
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
partially true
2019-08-25 06:20
Not really. In cologne they fell pray to the terrible format and were basically doomed after losing a single bo1. Also your point about player age is really moot, the only player who is anywhere near the end of his career is Allu and he still has like 3 years in him. Player age is a really overrated factor. Allu is the oldest member and he has been the best player of ENCE lately. I kind of agree with the placing in Chicago not meaning much, but in my (unpopular) opinion the final was closer than it looked. ENCE is a very momentum based team and in the 2nd half of Inferno they were outplaying Liquid, but it was too late. If they win that map they would have put up a good show and potentially taken 1-2 more maps off of Liquid. The move will be very interesting. We will see how much of the calling fell unto Aleksib in the end. He was the worst fragger afterall.
2019-08-25 03:05
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#20
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
format excuse top 3 teams shouldve be losing bo1s pre 2018 majors all had bo1 only system, no one was crying about bo1s then, a "top 3 team" should easily dispatch of a heroic level team in a bo1 on mirage and losing to vitality, well thats another dissapointment since it proves yet again ence cannot beat t1 teams, going out early just delayed the inevitable
2019-08-25 06:14
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This is an international site, please write your comment in english
2019-08-25 06:56
#12
ile | 
Finland NApp
There's no coming back from now on xd
2019-08-25 03:05
Not to mention they pretty much shot themselves in the foot and ruined any small chance they had to perform at major by publicly outing their IGL on the day of Qualifer start. Actual dogshit and retarded organization
2019-08-25 03:27
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#21
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
exactly, aleksi will be off this major knowing he is a temp how the fuck could this leak right before the major the next one is in 8 months whats the purpose of this leaking rn? ence wont listen to aleksi as much, aleksi wont play as well, their already small chance just got sliced in half
2019-08-25 06:15
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Inept ownership who have clearly never participated in a team environment and dont have any knowledge of morale or team chemistry. Feel so bad for aleksi tbh
2019-08-25 07:02
probably planned to do it after major but it got leaked so better than just make it official than let the rumours go unanswered so long
2019-08-25 07:07
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#42
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Finland Faust_fSt
Tbh I think they announced this now so that every org knows they can approach Aleksib during the busiest shuffle season. Aleksib himself was told a couple weeks ago, so it was actually good for Aleksib that this announcement happened now, and not too late for him to get picked up. The leak MAY have had some part in this, I do not know, but from aleksib's point of view this isn't bad.
2019-08-25 16:40
They should have kicked aerial
2019-08-25 07:09
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#44
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
or xseven since aerial has hope
2019-08-25 21:54
I think they can do well after major, about major I dont know, i just hope.. But if they have problem with IGL it makes sense to kick him, what is point of having IGL people dont trust.. North kicked IGL and valde took it over and now they went 3-0 at challenger stage. So it does sometimes work out, it's unlikely to be another faze situation, ence have structure built already, they have better communication. And ofc HLTV experts now how it is inside the server that it's aleksi's mastermind carrying the team. Dont get me wrong I like aleksi but this stuff happen all the time in every sport but it caused just huge uproar because aleksiB is every kid's wet dream..
2019-08-25 07:15
#30
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South Africa @FyreCS
Agreed someone with brain cells! +11111111 Aerial should’ve been replaced if that’s the case since SunNy and him play the same roles like wtf Alexsib to faze confirmed?
2019-08-25 07:16
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#45
EliGE | 
North America Beecs
xseven better choice to kick since aerial has hope
2019-08-25 21:54
#31
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Russia Kamunist
Sunny will bring firepower and motivation to the dudes, in 2-3 months they will dominate the scene, but you won't change your mind EZ4ENCE
2019-08-25 07:33
3 replies
I would love it but no. Wont happen
2019-08-25 07:46
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#34
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Russia Kamunist
You can only assume at this point
2019-08-25 07:48
1 reply
Thats true +1 EZ4ENCE
2019-08-25 07:50
disband is only option no igl
2019-08-25 07:49
disband
2019-08-25 16:37
#46
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African Union Zawwy
hah
2019-08-25 21:55
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