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New coL Players?
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Austria Jevlyn 
With Jason Lake there owner coming out and saying he will buy out tier 1 players and pay the highest salaries who do you think they should get and replace? Personally replace Rickeh, Dephh and maybe SicK. Shahzam and oBo have done enough to solidify there spot on that team imo.
2019-08-25 21:54
#1
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Germany FlameSF2 
Shahzam in 2019
2019-08-25 21:55
He played decent
2019-08-25 21:56
shahzam isn't the issue, rickeh needs to be dropped asap, maybe dephh but that's debatable.
2019-08-25 21:57
tbh in my eyes the only reason dephh has dropped off as of recent is because he has had to igl. he was doing great before he started in game leading.
2019-08-25 22:14
yeah i agree, honestly dephh single handedly carried that team for some time, i'm sure he still has it in him if they find new igl so he can focus on himself, rickeh is a definite drop, i can see dephh getting back into it.
2019-08-25 22:35
keep dephh, drop rickeh and grab steel. dephh, obo, and shahzam is a solid core but shahzam didnt perform that well at starladder. wouldnt be surprised if they dropped him just for that.
2019-08-25 22:41
#81
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Austria Jevlyn 
steel major banned. coL wants to win majors
2019-08-25 22:43
shit forgot about that. there really arent a lot of good na igls left apart from steel.
2019-08-25 22:44
#103
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United Kingdom Mattors 
they don't need a full na team. Get xizt igl, ez top 5
2019-08-25 22:55
LOL
2019-08-25 22:55
#106
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Austria Jevlyn 
HAHAHAHAHA
2019-08-25 22:55
yeh rickeh is a lost cause, its pointless to have him in the team. find an igl and they could be super good.
2019-08-25 22:43
#84
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Austria Jevlyn 
+1
2019-08-25 22:43
+1
2019-08-25 22:47
totally not bias
2019-08-25 22:45
#92
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Austria Jevlyn 
LMFAO
2019-08-25 22:45
never said I wasn't. I may be wrong or right at the end of the day its an opinion.
2019-08-25 23:03
dephh played well as confirmed by the casters
2019-08-26 00:13
shahzam is just a pugger, he was only good in misfits
2019-08-25 21:57
-dephh +Nifty -Rickeh +floppy
2019-08-25 21:58
#6
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Austria Jevlyn 
honestly not a bad idea. idk if Nifty is that good of a igl tho
2019-08-25 21:58
Nifty is a little overrated. +vanity to igl is great too but ruined Singularity team
2019-08-25 22:01
#14
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Austria Jevlyn 
eUnited has been decent but not against high tier 2 and tier 1 so idk
2019-08-25 22:02
#56
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Poland Crai9Xen 
Nifty overrated
2019-08-25 22:29
I say it.
2019-08-25 22:29
he said tier 1
2019-08-25 22:40
dephh was good before he was force to igl, just drop rickeh and grab steel
2019-08-25 22:41
good idea, steel very good player but he have ban :(
2019-08-25 22:43
#7
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Czech Republic Theft90 
Honestly should -Rickeh and -dephh, have no idea who they should replace them with though.
2019-08-25 21:59
#8
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Austria Jevlyn 
yea same I just dunno who would be a upgrade that they could get
2019-08-25 21:59
obo, cold, draken, aleksib and....?
2019-08-25 22:00
#10
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Austria Jevlyn 
Shahzam > draken
2019-08-25 22:00
oskar > shazam and you got t1 awp
2019-08-25 22:03
#16
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Austria Jevlyn 
+1 #saveOskar
2019-08-25 22:03
i like oskar too but hes too instable to deal with cold.
2019-08-25 22:04
Time passes I think he might get along with him rn
2019-08-25 22:07
#20
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Austria Jevlyn 
Right now 100% Shahz
2019-08-25 22:04
#21
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Austria Jevlyn 
i just think Shahz has never really had a good enough team around him to perform his best.
2019-08-25 22:05
hltv.org/stats/players/compare/7810/Shah.. Fixed, you forgot to put 2019 on
2019-08-25 22:09
#17
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Other khorkalba 
What has Draken done to earn yet another chance on a team like that? Skill wise, he has never looked like a potential top 20 player on HLTV's end of year rankings... and there are rumours that people don't like playing with him because of his personality.
2019-08-25 22:03
#40
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
ocean
2019-08-25 22:19
Dont forget about xizt and twist, i think if you do -rickeh +twist its a good upgrade. Twist is also a second awp rifler
2019-08-25 23:14
agreed. Twist is awesome. Really didnt get this fnatic move.
2019-08-25 23:15
#11
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Other khorkalba 
Anyone serious about creating a tier 1 superteam wouldn't even consider the possibility of keeping Shahzam. Personally, I don't think Jason Lake is serious. The fact that he held on to Rickeh for so long is a pretty clear indication that he doesn't even know what it takes to build a decent tier 2 squad, let alone a tier 1 squad. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he picks up GTR and Friberg as "tier 1" replacements for SicK and Rickeh.
2019-08-25 22:00
#13
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Austria Jevlyn 
i agree 100%. i like shahz a lot but he definitely isnt tier 1.
2019-08-25 22:01
>I wouldn't be at all surprised if he picks up GTR and Friberg as "tier 1" replacements for SicK and Rickeh. LOL 100% accurate but lets us hope for the best.
2019-08-25 22:07
#37
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Argentina cheapdeed 
+99999 kick shahzam already
2019-08-25 22:16
#22
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Europe Qaia 
Every single player is going to be benched.
2019-08-25 22:06
#23
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Austria Jevlyn 
idk about that lol
2019-08-25 22:06
me too. not so sure, must take some balls to bench obo.
2019-08-25 22:09
#55
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Brazil baldok1 
obo is a huge talent out there...
2019-08-25 22:28
#26
daps | 
Brazil yesyesyis 
steel n RUSH pls :D
2019-08-25 22:08
stop. please, stop.
2019-08-25 22:10
#31
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Austria Jevlyn 
rush is a no thank you
2019-08-25 22:12
#57
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Rush hahahhahahahjahahahahhzn m lspom@oaiajs
2019-08-25 22:29
#30
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United States jay_320 
Two easy upgrades that wouldn't cost much are Wardell for Shazam and Rush for Rickeh. It doesn't turn you into a world beating team but it gets you the best AWP talent NA has produced since Skadoodle and a player who I gurantee is hungry to prove himself again. At that point you have a top 15-20 team at least in theory. Then you start scouting. I know scouting in CS is extremely hard especially since the players are such bitches about who they play with but you either go down this road or you tear the entire thing up and start from scratch around Obo and you have teams like Envy and 100 Thieves who are flush with cash that are attempting to do the exact same thing. To me it's the better bet. Get a major winner. He can provide versatility and legitimacy to the roster and get another really good young talent. Get that clown Shazam out of T1 CS.
2019-08-25 22:11
wardell yes rush no, his career is over bro
2019-08-25 22:14
+1
2019-08-25 22:15
#36
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United States jay_320 
Why? He's not that old. He's better then Rickeh for sure. You have to be realistic about things. They aren't buying out Autimatic and Ethan. CS just doesn't work that way anymore. For a team like this incremental improvements can lead to big payoff down the road. Rush will never frag out like he did in 2016 but he's an upgrade over Rickeh. In six months you re-evaluate. See how Wardell and Obo vibe together. See who's on the market then. etc
2019-08-25 22:16
man, the guy said that he wants and WILL pay for a tier 1 player. He can buy whoever he wants and you get a big question mark player. Theres no way this is going to happen and it should never happen. Just thinking about this is an abomination. Yeah. When the CEO said that he meant players like niko, cold, device, etc... why should he spend his money is something that will probably bring the same results that he already have?
2019-08-25 22:20
#44
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Austria Jevlyn 
+1
2019-08-25 22:22
#48
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United States jay_320 
Right but it's CSGO in 2019. What Tier 1 player is he going to buy out? That will actually leave his team? Coldzera doesn't want to go to fucking complexity. Who are they going to put around him??
2019-08-25 22:26
#61
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Brazil baldok1 
how do you know coldzera doesn't want to go ? he asnwered the tweet
2019-08-25 22:30
#62
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United States jay_320 
Because Coldzera wants to win and no formulation of Complexity even with Coldzera is even close to winning.
2019-08-25 22:31
#63
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Brazil baldok1 
and then where do you thing cold would go ? I mean, there's pretty much no option...
2019-08-25 22:33
#67
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United States jay_320 
I think the community has it right that Cold wants to play with Niko. Whether Faze answers that call is another question entirely. Unless something crazy happens I think he'll be riding the bench Sunny style for a while. If Stewie2k is the highest buyout in history and we know Niko cost 500k how much does a Coldzera cost you? 750k? A million? Who's outlaying that cash.
2019-08-25 22:37
#69
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Austria Jevlyn 
JERRY JONES. coL has all the money they need for sure
2019-08-25 22:38
#73
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United States jay_320 
Jesus you people are nuts. Ok so we got Cold and Obo. Who are we buying next? Flusha is likely off the market at this point. Are we going to Kio? That's an interesting mix of personalities you got there already. Kio, Cold and a 15 year old. We're going to bring in a 20 year old Finn to corral that lot? Really?
2019-08-25 22:40
#78
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Austria Jevlyn 
yea idk who they should get i just want ideas which is why i made this post lmao
2019-08-25 22:42
#89
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United States jay_320 
Fair enough. I just think this idea that because Jason Lake said it Coldzera is coming to Complexity is ridiculous and absolutely blind to the realities of CS. They should pull a C9. Take what works with their current roster. Develop young talent and pick up some good veterans.
2019-08-25 22:45
#137
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Brazil baldok1 
I think you have too much information, are you col manager or something? maybe you work at another org as well, cuz you have a lot of deep information.
2019-08-26 01:45
#142
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United States jay_320 
Well it's an HLTV forum.
2019-08-26 18:09
#145
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Brazil baldok1 
that olny means that you're reading too much and maybe dreaming of something...
2019-08-26 19:49
#147
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United States jay_320 
Ok.
2019-08-26 20:36
If he can go international, aleksib needs to be on the list asap.
2019-08-25 22:27
Removing Shazam over removing Dephh or sick is a bad idea, you know that Shazam's literally the second best player on the team right? If you're removing him, remove everyone else on the roster except for oBo of course
2019-08-25 22:15
#39
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United States jay_320 
Statistically yes he is but Wardell has a much higher ceiling. Maybe you could put Shazam on a rifle but as stated players are bitches and I doubt that would help team cohesion and I have no idea if he's got the chops for it.
2019-08-25 22:17
Yes Wardell is better than Shazam, but keeping other bots like Rickeh, Dephh or sick is not good to say the least. Bringing in another bot like RUSH is also not good, the CEO said that he wants to build a juggernaut, RUSH will never be on any team considered a juggernaut.
2019-08-25 22:25
#50
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United States jay_320 
Right but who. No one gets bought out anymore if they are a top 20 player. Coldzera is the lone exception and I guranfuckingtee you he's not looking at Complexity as his escape option.
2019-08-25 22:27
if they're looking to make a juggernaut Flusha Wardell oBo Aleksib not sure the 5th, Kio's available, cold could join, maybe they can see if JKS wants to join.
2019-08-25 22:36
#68
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Austria Jevlyn 
why everyone saying jks? did he say he wants to leave RNG
2019-08-25 22:37
I got the idea from the other guy saying JKS, that's only if he wants to leave Renegades, he's got a 1.17 rating on LAN this year, very solid player, if Renegades bomb out of the major maybe he'll start considering his options.
2019-08-25 22:39
#72
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Austria Jevlyn 
oh yea for sure jks is really good player i love him id love to see him on coL but him leaving AUS idkkkk
2019-08-25 22:40
#70
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United States jay_320 
This is at least semi-realistic. But it seems like Flusha already has a destination. Especially with the Fnatic split. Kio not being picked up already tells you all you need to know about him as far as I can tell.
2019-08-25 22:39
it's actually not looking like Flusha's going to fnatic, JW said he'd be fine with playing with Flusha but it'll take a while (months) as Flusha & some others weren't exactly on the best of terms when Flusha got benched
2019-08-25 22:44
#105
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United States jay_320 
Things change quickly when you bomb out of the major for the first time in your history. I'm not a big fan of get together tours they don't work generally (SEE MIBR) but what big talent is out there in Sweden waiting to be picked up? I honestly don't know. Maybe there is one.
2019-08-25 22:55
I don't know the Swedish scene that much, people are saying Nawwk but from what I can see it's just an average player who farms rating from garbage teams.
2019-08-25 22:59
#59
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Rush? Are you Serious??
2019-08-25 22:29
#60
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United States jay_320 
1. He's better then Rickeh. And again who exactly is he going to buyout?
2019-08-25 22:30
#64
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Floppy is a really stand out choice to me
2019-08-25 22:35
#77
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United States jay_320 
Scouting in CS is so hit and miss I really don't know. But if I'm Col and I'm looking long term this is the type of player I'm looking at. Along with the Wardell and Rush suggestions.
2019-08-25 22:42
#88
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Rush has had enough time to prove himself on C9 and he didn’t
2019-08-25 22:45
#95
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United States jay_320 
Right but he's still an upgrade. He brings experience and legitimacy. Not only that but if you do bring in another extremely young player his experience would help the team develop. I'm surprised absolutely no one sees where I'm going with this. The economics of CSGO in 2019 just don't support a super owner even one backed by Jerry "I love me some glory hole" Jones buying out Niko, Device, Coldzera, Karrigan and ..Obo. It's not just the money. It's players being invested in their own teams. It's players not wanting to leave. It's players seeing a team with no foundation aside from one unproven talent. Not to mention other teams (like G2 did with C9) cock-blocking buyouts.
2019-08-25 22:50
#97
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Austria Jevlyn 
nah Lake wants a tier 1 team and no tier 1 team will ever have RUSH
2019-08-25 22:49
#98
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United States jay_320 
One thing I'll say could happen. Long shot but could at least in theory. Col simply buys Faze. Faze at least reported wants out of CSGO. You get a new owner willing to spend cash. THEN you can get a guy like Coldzera in.
2019-08-25 22:51
#99
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Austria Jevlyn 
it would be sick if col was NiKo, Cold, Oskar, Aleksib, and maybe flusha or kio.
2019-08-25 22:52
#100
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Austria Jevlyn 
but they are all EU and coL is based in NA so all of them would have to move to NA which idk if they would
2019-08-25 22:53
#101
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United States jay_320 
I don't think you are going to get Niko unless Faze falls apart or is sold in totality. But sure that'd be a fun team to watch. Absolutely. Whether it works or not is a huge if though. That's a lot of disparate nationalities.
2019-08-25 22:54
#102
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Austria Jevlyn 
yea thats a dream team lmao
2019-08-25 22:54
"Faze at least reported wants out of CSGO" ? source pls
2019-08-25 22:56
#143
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United States jay_320 
The fact that they have had stand-ins since Karrigan left? It's very obvious when you consider their's a lawsuit that could break a significant part of their business up. Like it or not Fortnite changed everything including Faze's focus.
2019-08-26 18:11
#144
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Austria Jevlyn 
tru
2019-08-26 18:23
#38
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Sweden meistr0 
oBo & SicK should 100% stay. The rest can go.
2019-08-25 22:16
#42
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United States sxg 
when did jason lake say he was gonna buy tier 1 players?
2019-08-25 22:20
#43
dUdLeY | 
United Kingdom dUdLeY 
is there a clip of his statement?
2019-08-25 22:22
#46
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France Nicolito 
2019-08-25 22:24
#49
shox | 
Serbia Ch11co 
-shazam +wardell or niffty but as an awper -sick +rush -rickeh aleksib mabye i cant think of a better available igl and he said hes open for offers all around the world dephh he played good by keep him or get kio
2019-08-25 22:27
#51
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Austria Jevlyn 
dephh is igl
2019-08-25 22:27
#54
shox | 
Serbia Ch11co 
Ik ik
2019-08-25 22:28
rush in 2019 ouch
2019-08-25 22:45
wardell wardell wardell wardell wardell coach: m0e
2019-08-25 22:27
keep oBo and shahzam. Kick the rest asap. Bring in some Ghost leftovers if you want to keep being an NA team, if not you can do anything with that big of a revamp really
2019-08-25 22:44
#113
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Russia deadforest 
You have no knowledge about NA scene, honestly.
2019-08-25 23:06
#114
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Austria Jevlyn 
nah hes right lmao
2019-08-25 23:06
Alright what would your fix be? I guess you can keep sick if you are gonna stay NA
2019-08-25 23:07
#83
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Brazil P4uloVisk 
Coldzera is comming !
2019-08-25 22:43
#85
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Austria Jevlyn 
his tweet was just a bait im sure
2019-08-25 22:44
#94
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Romania kr1tex 
-rickeh +kio -dephh +aleksib -shahzam +oskar
2019-08-25 22:48
#96
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Austria Jevlyn 
that would be pretty good but idk if all of them would want to commit to living in USA
2019-08-25 22:49
rubbish, clearly not a follower of form or Col
2019-08-26 00:15
#132
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Romania kr1tex 
Their CEO said he wants to build a juggernaut, shahzam is good but he's not good enough vorv t1, oskar is times and times better rn
2019-08-26 00:18
Hiko +igl
2019-08-25 22:55
#108
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Austria Jevlyn 
Hiko isnt tier 1 anymore
2019-08-25 22:56
Tell that to disbanded Rogue that was rolling teams last season
2019-08-26 00:36
seized 1mpala QRUSH coldzera GeT_RiGhT
2019-08-25 23:05
#116
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Europe martos99 
natosaphix IGL+AWPer
2019-08-25 23:09
obo dephh floppy shazam rush
2019-08-25 23:11
#118
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Austria Jevlyn 
HELL no
2019-08-25 23:11
because?
2019-08-25 23:11
#120
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Austria Jevlyn 
Jason want a tier 1 team. RUSH is washed af not a good player anymore. floppy is up and comer i like him but not for tier 1 rn
2019-08-25 23:12
I don't think rush is washed up, I think it was just motivational issues towards the end of C9. Plus he's a major winner, after all. He's experienced and can be a good support. But if you don't want him, there's probably an alternative. Maybe s0m, but idk if you want 3 really young players on the team. Or infinite? Isn't he an IGL? Then dephh could start fragging again. But floppy has more experience than oBo did before he joined and seems to be carrying Singularity, so why not him? Or they could get some international players.
2019-08-25 23:23
If willing to cough up the cash: -shazam -sick -rickeh / +Kioshima +Coldzera +freakazoid therefore keeping their na minor possible
2019-08-25 23:12
#124
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Kazakhstan Kanjarsan 
cold kio draken Aleksib oBo
2019-08-25 23:19
#126
asap | 
North America _ROCKY 
Hopefully he realizes that there’s no decent NA players left without a contact on the scene and he’ll go to sign some eu players. Absolutely no one, but mb obo (arguably, as he’s got some potential) deserves to be in this team
2019-08-25 23:23
shahzam flusha kio ?? ??
2019-08-25 23:27
+alekzib +Friberg
2019-08-26 00:17
dephh has been the most solid player. you deaf, heard the casters confirm that? hes had to suffer one average player after another.
2019-08-26 00:12
Coldzera, Aleksib, Kioshima
2019-08-26 00:19
shahzam flusha kio obo dephh
2019-08-26 00:20
#136
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Sweden Trkmag 
ShahZam cant be on a tier 1 team to be absolutely honest
2019-08-26 00:37
#138
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Pakistan ostraka 
Ez for my Pakistani brother shahzam
2019-08-26 01:48
#139
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Denmark Matchfix 
S1mple Zywoo Twistzzz EliGe Flusha
2019-08-26 03:22
"I’ve never seen a bag of money score a goal." - Johan Cruyff
2019-08-26 03:31
Flusha n0thing Shahzam oBo kioShiMa
2019-08-26 03:39
#146
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Hungary Skipper001 
BnTet oBo oskar RUSH Aleksib Jaggernaut right theree
2019-08-26 20:02
#148
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Austria Jevlyn 
bot RUSH lmao
2019-08-26 22:15
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