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No pure Russian or Ukranian teams?
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
How come when there is a mix of Ukrainians and Russians on a team the team is amazing (Navi) but teams with 5 Ukrainians suck and teams with 5 Russians suck? discuss.
2019-08-26 00:44
#1
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Brazil monkay 
CIS = Russia Itself
2019-08-26 00:45
#54
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
Restore the Russian empire(not ussr coz communism gay) and annex all those irrelevant countries around Russia. Ez
2019-08-26 01:42
Then finns would carry the cis region
2019-08-26 11:26
by pure you mean virgin?
2019-08-26 00:45
#10
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Serious please I'm truly curious. It's the same with UK teams. You see a good UK player on an EU team but why don't they just get 5 good UK players to make a super team.
2019-08-26 00:51
1. The amount of total player of cs:go in a said country 2. The amount of players involved in competitive cs:go 3. The amount of players involved in competitive cs:go that can afford the hardware needed 4. The amount of players involved in competitive cs:go that can give it enough time to train 5. The competitive environment of a national scene to help players to get LAN experiences If somehow one of these (and probably more) is not checked then you end without any good national team. For exemple, there is no good Monaco team because 1. is not for them For UK it could 2. 4. or 5. missing For Russia it could be 3.or 4 And finally as barrier language is not an issue, there is no need to stick with your own nationality. For exemple, french scene used Belgian Ex6 or ScreaM, Swiss Maniac or UK ALEX like one of ours since they all are native speaking french. In that way we vamped their official country from players that could have made a national team of their own if not proposed to play with french players.
2019-08-26 01:03
tldr
2019-08-26 01:14
#39
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Expected from guys who kick AleksiGOD
2019-08-26 01:15
ENCE will be top 1 with me
2019-08-26 01:16
#51
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
+100 Appreciated my man.
2019-08-26 01:40
#3
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Bulgaria Omaiguudnes 
2019-08-26 00:45
#6
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Denmark Notallama 
they kinda suck tho
2019-08-26 00:48
Not really, they made a lot of mistakes for their first major fine - but they actually performed better than more experienced teams that "should" have advanced. I watched the entire game and they honestly lost at least 5-8 1vx 2vx situations each map due to bad positioning, my guess'd be stressfull comms, other than that they just played way to aggressive when they shouldn't have and the other way around. I'm confident that if they stick together and work it out we could see them as a new CIS top team!
2019-08-26 01:23
#33
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
I mean a team that's good for a long long time like Astralis or Ence. Forze is good now but who says they won't end up like Vega Squadron win a few lans and dissapear then disband.
2019-08-26 01:11
#4
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Other wtf_men 
If the UK teams would use runtime nutrition it would be EZ top 1 hltv
2019-08-26 00:47
#7
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Same with UK teams no good UK team with 5 UK people. Like There are one or two UK players on the top teams why don't they just get 5 good UK players and form a UK team?
2019-08-26 00:49
Cuz UK too big ego and more than 2 British players = team destroyed
2019-08-26 00:53
#16
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Is that the real reason that's nice to know thanks . +10
2019-08-26 00:54
FE: remember smooya shot when he called michu 3rd world toilet cleaner? Imagine more than 1/2 players like that lmao
2019-08-26 00:57
#31
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
hahahaha Smooya is on the bench while Michu is on an actual team karma?
2019-08-26 01:11
Nah I don't think smooya actually wanted to offend michu just screamed sth without thinking about it imo
2019-08-26 01:15
#43
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Slovakia t4gg3d 
Except smooya is in BIG?
2019-08-26 01:22
BeCaUsE ThErE iS nO sImPlE tO cArRy ThEmMmMmMmMmMmMmMmMMmMMM
2019-08-26 00:48
it's like the NA scene, when there's 5 Americans they win a fluke major then blow dick, when there's 5 Canadians, there isn't 5 Canadians cause our scene is more dead than FaZe with NEO
2019-08-26 00:49
HAHAHAHAHA no its because diversity is not a strength. We are so diverse we cant get a team together. Thats why Quebec has a scene. Very ethnically homogenious. Yet toronto has nothing.... why? Le Diversity.
2019-08-26 01:15
it's also partially due to the massive thing in the middle of the populated parts called the prairies. An all Canadian super team can be easily formed & it would be a top 5 team 100% but the NA scene as a whole is better mixed.
2019-08-26 01:28
No it cant. It will never happen. Culturally its too different. BC people are stuck up snobby fucks. Prarries wouldnt deal with them they're good white conservatives. Toronto is full of libtard degenerates. Quebec only like Qc and east coast too busy drinking. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. we only produce elite individuals.
2019-08-26 01:31
NAF Twistzz Wardell Daps TenZ ez Canadian super team, top 5 in the world.
2019-08-26 01:34
#50
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
That's actually an ok team haha.
2019-08-26 01:39
It will never happen. What the hell are you going to market with canadians? Canada computer wouldnt sponsor them i bet their twitters have more americans than canadians following.
2019-08-26 04:03
Vega Squadron was a Russian Ukrainian mix and it sucked some dick 0/8 thread
2019-08-26 00:50
#13
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Um no? They upset tons of teams at two majors and went on to win 2 more lans before disbanding due to their players constantly being bought out by other teams.
2019-08-26 00:52
Yes 2 tier 3 tournaments dont count
2019-08-26 00:59
#30
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Yes a tournament with Ence is tier 2 HAHAH
2019-08-26 01:10
They lost to ence are you ok?
2019-08-26 01:28
Also spirit sucks ass
2019-08-26 01:00
FORZE???
2019-08-26 00:51
#14
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
They've been good recently I mean a team that can be good for a long long time like Astralis or Ence for example.
2019-08-26 00:52
I seriously think they will be top 10 consistent. They have zywoo level carry in xsepower. They are not acting and screaming like other retarded cis teams. They dont have typical cis playstyle. And they are consistently inproving for months now.
2019-08-26 00:55
#29
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
I hope so most Ru and Ukranian teams end up like Vega. Good at a major or two majors then they win a few lans after that and just disband.
2019-08-26 01:09
why? LMAO your favorite team just ended up like that. Forze is defferent than normal cis teams.
2019-08-26 01:11
#34
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Lol I'm not hating dude just asking.
2019-08-26 01:12
#19
GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
impossible then because Ukraine has s1mple at least :) and Russia has electronic best duo
2019-08-26 00:56
#17
GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
1. I dont remember any team with 5 ukr 2. Russia has forze/DreamEaters and one of them will play on the Legends Stage A bit unfair to say that Russia has no good teams at all but yeah Ukr + russian(s) - best team
2019-08-26 00:54
"1. I dont remember any team with 5 ukr" Newfrog alert
2019-08-26 00:56
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
Yeah lets talk about the team that existed like 5 years ago And they werent event close to Na'Vi's lvl now, so... Oh maybe u wanna talk about CS 1.6 team that existed like 10 years ago? You are living in the past, my friend. Ukraine has 2 players, sdy and s1mple. And 0 teams. Deal with it.
2019-08-26 01:02
Still it's kinda funny to read " I dont remember any team with 5 ukr" from the guy with NaVi flair.
2019-08-26 01:04
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
because of good ukr lineup in 1.6? wow.
2019-08-26 01:05
Um, yes? What, you memory doesn't work further than 10 years?
2019-08-26 01:07
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
Who the fuck cares about abs different game 10 years ago when there were about 5 to 10 good teams from the hole fckn world. Im preety sure they didnt even know how to aim on the head. This guy was talking about CS:GO and teams/players that we have now.
2019-08-26 01:15
"Im preety sure they didnt even know how to aim on the head." XD 12yo spotted. Seriously, watch some old demos, you'd be surprised. Who cares? All your favorite professional players. But I guess you've answered my question. You simply don't have any memory older than 10 years. Except maybe for some fuzzy memory of sucking a tit.
2019-08-26 10:58
God you are dumb.
2019-08-26 11:29
Elaborate.
2019-08-26 11:30
You are expecting someone to remember/know about a lineup that existed 10 in 1.6, aka has nothing to do with cs go
2019-08-26 11:33
They actually played csgo from 12.2012 to 07.2013. I don't expect just anyone to remember this line-up. But someone with NaVi flair? I just think it's funny to not know them. Either way, what's really dumb is thinking that pro 1.6 players didn't know how to aim.
2019-08-26 11:45
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
jesus, did u even read what i wrote? u probaly werent even born yet when navi was already dominating in 1.6. the only good ukr line-up was in 1.6 in fckin 2010. i dont think this guy was talking about abs diff game that existed 10 years ago when pro players were playing for free and there were a couple of good teams from the hole world. i will repeat, if you, for some reason, didnt understand. Ukraine has 0 teams and 2 players. The only good ukr line-up that ever existed was 10 years ago in a completely different game.
2019-08-26 16:36
They played in csgo for 7 month, which is longer than most lineups' existence. And 1.6 is NOT a "completely different game", just a different version of the SAME game. But I guess for a 12yo it might look that way.
2019-08-26 17:52
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GuardiaN | 
Sweden shonk 
so in ur opinion they were playing good in csgo with this roster? :) 0 achievements :) a fckin mix of old overhyped players who got rekt immediately. GuardiaN, seized, flamie. these players saved NaVi.
2019-08-26 18:05
ye, sure. same game. thats why navi were winning 3 majors in a row in 1.6. and then choked for years in csgo.
2019-08-26 18:08
I see that you only started watching CS after they added battle royale. Let me tell you then that there's a lot of teams that dominated csgo scene for years and then stopped. NiP, SK (MIBR for you), Virtus pro. I understand that you probably never heard of these teams, but they used to be very good.
2019-08-26 18:46
im tired of talking to you. why did u mention SK and NiP? They didnt win shit in 1.6... And they had absolutely different lineups.. SK had a swedish lineup. NiP won 1 tourn in 2001 with a swedish lineup and abs diff line-up as well. I can only agree that polaks were good in 1.6 and taz+neo+pasha were always playing together and then added 2 new players in csgo and kuben as a coach who played with them before.
2019-08-26 19:26
I was talking about csgo, not 1.6. Have you spend all that time reading about 1.6? Or did you let your older brother into your account? If it's the former, I'm proud of you.
2019-08-26 19:32
grandpa time to move out from cs forums and build a family
2019-08-26 01:15
#97
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Russia seized_goat 
Windigo academy aka team which played faceit instead of praccs on bootcamp
2019-08-26 16:40
forze is good
2019-08-26 01:15
#58
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Yes but they most likely will end up like every other CIS team be good for a few more lans and go MIA forever. I mean good for years like Astralis or VP
2019-08-26 01:44
i believe they are not flukes like vega or spirit, they are a young rising team in a scene like cr4zy, good igl, good firepower and great awper, they play very structured cs, it seems they know what they are doing, they were nonamers half a year ago and now they are qualifying for big tournaments and major challenging big teams, if they stick together they can still progress a lot more, i can see them in top 10.
2019-08-26 02:15
#67
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
I hope so CIS region like NA has been extremely underwhelming.
2019-08-26 03:28
#52
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
Both forze and de are full rossija
2019-08-26 01:40
#53
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Yes but like every other Russian team they will win a few lans after the major and just disband. I mean good for a long time like Ence or Astralis.
2019-08-26 01:41
#56
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
I've seen forze and de for a while and especially forze has been slowly consistently rising so I don't think you can say that for sure
2019-08-26 01:43
#62
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
I agree but CIS teams last nowhere near as long Nip or VP for example that's what I mean and i hope Forze can be tier 1 for years.
2019-08-26 01:47
#64
kNgV- | 
Italy InSuu 
Navi lasted and so did gambit and avangar has been doing outside majors even if they've slipped a bit recently but they've now recovered. So cis teams can definetly stay for long
2019-08-26 01:52
#57
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
No pure US team
2019-08-26 01:44
#59
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Canada and US are basically the same country imo they are so similar.
2019-08-26 01:45
Its the same with USA.. they dont have a single team.. Denmark have 4 and a team with 4 players so almost 5 entire teams... and USA, and well Russia.. not a single one.
2019-08-26 01:47
#63
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Exactly bro Sweden and Denmark are tiny countries as well.
2019-08-26 01:51
#65
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Russia Svirv 
Best players in the region (speaking the same language) create the best team, thanks to the internet. When the team with intention of winning is formed it's only about skill and the right mix of players role-wise and personality-wise. Country in passport is irrelevant. In a region consisting of several countries, it so happened that the best team, or the second best team of the region are not all from the same country. Idk what's there to discuss?
2019-08-26 01:59
#68
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Just wondering because Astralis is all 5 Denmark players, VP was all Polish players, and Fnatic all 5 Swedes. I just found it odd that every good CIS team has 2 Russians and 3 Ukrainians or 3 Russians and 2 Ukrainians.
2019-08-26 03:29
It's because there is more talent in 2 countries than 1 country.
2019-08-26 18:11
#73
Ukraine bia 
NaVi is better not because of mix, but because of organization, discipline, stuff, etc.
2019-08-26 11:25
#80
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Ukraine ksay 
last time na'vi had 5 ukraininans they won 4 majors
2019-08-26 11:35
#95
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Russia Svyatoy_Otec 
It was different game
2019-08-26 14:17
#82
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Ukraine KingOfSoloSex 
why do you care about that, mr kiribati?
2019-08-26 11:48
#91
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Spain Holiwis 
forze :)))
2019-08-26 13:36
Na'VI 2010
2019-08-26 18:10
#103
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Finland 7ones 
All who speak russian are pretty much russians. Do not be fooled by the country borders.
2019-08-26 18:12
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