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Why hate faze?
India Kirito29 
Title They make it to the 3 playoff out of last 4 event they attended
2019-08-28 10:47
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Nice ID. Maybe because faze fans were too cocky* in 2017
2019-08-28 10:50
#7
GuardiaN | 
Other wInt3r 
in 2017 wow.......
2019-08-28 10:50
Ok maybe in 2018 too
2019-08-28 13:22
#101
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
says the MIBR fan, hate to break it to you but SK/MIBR fans were 100x worse.
2019-08-28 15:58
#88
2019-08-28 16:10
#109
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
I bring it up because you are an MIBR fan, if you're not trolling that is. And it's kinda ironic that an MIBR fan is calling FaZe fans out for something that they did on a way larger scale. If you weren't an MIBR fan I'd respect that stance more but you really can't talk when the MIBR fanbase was one of the most obnoxious things in the scene between 2017-2018. Kinda like the pot calling the kettle black.
2019-08-28 16:17
Ad hominem at its finest
2019-08-28 16:54
#114
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Not really, just a fact that faze fans were not as bad as MIBR fans and it's ironic that an MIBR fan is calling out faze fans for being obnoxious. Also in my recollection faze fans were not that bad, there were more threads hating on faze and plastic fans than there were fans rubbing victories in other people's face.
2019-08-28 17:01
Same for SK Astralis Faze Liquid. Whenever a team dominates, everyone hates on them and their actual fan base defends themselves. And then get called toxic/annoying. It’s a disgusting culture we reside within
2019-08-30 04:59
#251
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
we both know this ain't true, SK/MIBR fans were trying to say they are better than everyone else and rubbing the victories of SK/MIBR in everyone their face as if the victories were their own. They were the only fanbase really doing it, they were not defending themselves, they were intentionally antagonizing. Everyone makes fun of them and shits on them for that now that the team is bad. Liquid was a joke for a long time so I can kinda get why people were rubbing it in everyone their face for a while although I'm sure there are enough of plastic new fans of theirs who do the same just because they share a nationality. Astralis fans never came close to the level of obnoxiousness that SK/MIBR fans had and imo FaZe fans didn't either.
2019-08-30 14:17
Well the plastics and the trolls are everywhere and they do ruin the perceptions of the actual fan base. I saw quite a few annoying astralis fans. Mainly HLTV writers lmao
2019-09-03 16:38
#245
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Romania Iosif 
Ty
2019-08-30 12:23
I saw FaZe fans saying FaZe was the 2nd best team of 2018, as well as NiKo being better than device in 2018
2019-08-29 23:58
#242
NiKo | 
Finland FocusMen 
niko > device individually in 2018
2019-08-30 11:03
#252
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
Still doesn't come close of the obnoxious behaviour that MIBR fans showed.
2019-08-30 14:18
Niko was better than device in 2018
2019-09-03 16:39
#263
JW | 
United States Deso1ation 
NiKo was better than device. He had to IGL and farg. Furthermore , Astralis deadass just sets and baits for device
2019-09-04 07:47
in 2017 wow.......
2019-08-28 10:52
Fine. They all still suck
2019-08-28 13:22
MiBR fans are worse lmao
2019-08-28 13:38
Yes l agree, but why bring up mibr now?
2019-08-28 13:50
Says faze fans suck Loves mibr Hypocrite
2019-08-28 13:51
I never said mibr fanbase was good how am l hypocrite?
2019-08-28 16:06
We're talking about FaZe, bringing MIBR into this is whataboutism. An old Soviet strategy.
2019-08-30 00:10
#91
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New Zealand rowdog 
MIBR are a tier 3 team, they are awful, they are finshed. Coldzera was their only hope.
2019-08-28 13:53
Ok, so?
2019-08-28 16:06
#141
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New Zealand rowdog 
FaZe clearly don't suck
2019-08-29 06:34
I was talking about fanbase
2019-08-29 10:51
#243
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New Zealand rowdog 
xd self cuck
2019-08-30 12:06
explain
2019-08-30 13:05
They do though
2019-09-03 16:42
#262
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New Zealand rowdog 
ha navi
2019-09-04 07:38
#177
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Romania decis1ve 
not all of us amigo :(
2019-08-29 17:25
l like faze too tbh
2019-08-29 18:00
#22
biN | 
Israel _laden 
2017 was like 4 years ago
2019-08-28 10:58
#28
Nast1a | 
Russia SEN3X 
2019-2017=4 yeah u're right bra
2019-08-28 11:00
No but it emphasizes how long ago it was
2019-08-28 11:35
#59
Nast1a | 
Russia SEN3X 
i agree
2019-08-28 12:57
thats why he is a chef
2019-08-28 13:30
#81
Nast1a | 
Russia SEN3X 
thats why he is a 14yo
2019-08-28 13:31
#135
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
chef's need to be good at math, there is a lot of math in running a kitchen.
2019-08-29 02:08
Mibr fanbase was cocky in 2017 too and everyone still hate us
2019-08-28 13:20
because your nation's stupidity is yet to be found a cure for
2019-08-28 14:31
Thanks for ur opinion which nobody asked for
2019-08-28 16:09
I was explaining why is everyone still hating Brazilians, which you seemed to be confused about
2019-08-28 17:31
#24
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United States jeonseol 
Signed up 2018-01-28 xD
2019-08-28 10:58
You know you can access hltv forums without a hltv account right
2019-08-28 13:20
I agree hes a newfag, but you signed up in 2014 so you can't talk.
2019-08-29 17:27
#43
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Switzerland din0z0r 
mibr, astralis fans way worse
2019-08-28 11:29
So? Faze was not as good as them
2019-08-28 13:21
#77
Tomato | 
Europe boys 
they were even better
2019-08-28 13:27
#87
MIRAA | 
Brazil uselessz 
what about choquid fans?
2019-08-28 13:40
#90
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Switzerland din0z0r 
there are bad ones too but not as many
2019-08-28 13:52
That I can agree with
2019-08-30 05:00
There werent a lot of Astralis fans when they were dominant either
2019-09-03 16:43
#96
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Dogehino 
People associate FaZe fans with little kids who like Fortnite and know nothing about cs. Whilst this is true for some fans most of their fans (I believe/hope) are not these people. Also people are biased to hating FaZe due to the org and their fuck ups and the whole Kick Karrigan thing which I thought was a bad idea. Also why are their people who flame FaZe when they're not actually fans. Surely if your not a FaZe fan you'd want them to do bad so your favourite team has one less team to worry about.
2019-08-28 14:23
#106
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
There are a couple of reasons why I'm a FaZe fan, doesn't mean I would defend every decision they made because there are a lot of asinine ones. None of those reasons include FortShite luckily lol. Reasons I like them: - Grew up with MW2, was during my High school time and that's when I started hearing about them and following them, so I guess it kinda is nostalgia. - Kinda like banks, he seems like he keeps it real and I can respect that. - Was a fan of the original FaZe lineup even back when they were G2. - Been a fan of Olofmeister since his LGB days. - Have a lot of respect for guardian and his accomplishments. - Liked old Mouz a lot back around the MLG major days. Can't be specific and thought Niko was an insane player so ofc. I loved his transfer to FaZe. - Liked Karrigan, met him IRL during Cologne 2017 and he seemed like a nice guy. Now here are some things where I think they fucked up badly and made me like them slightly less: - Letting Niko usurp the IGL role of Karrigan and relegating him to support. - Niko IGLing - Getting washed up players that are past their prime just to be cheap. Think kicking Adren for NEO is even more pigheaded than getting rid of Karrigan, while I agree that Adren clearly wasn't the right fit getting NEO just makes FaZe worse in a lot of ways. - Assosciating their brand with Hype beasts. I resent Jake Paul-like hyper active vlogger types and FaZe's identity outside CSGo has been moving towards that. Fortshite goes hand-in-hand with this ofcourse. - The entire CSGOWild debacle was a total shitshow and has made me lose a lot of respect for some of the "leaders" involved. So yeah, you can breathe easy. Not all FaZe fans are rabid Fortshite kiddos that defend each and every decision they made.
2019-08-28 16:13
2 of the con points were the same
2019-08-28 16:58
#124
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
yeah, it just really baffled me why they would make that decision. The first point is more about karrigan getting the boot though and the second point focusses on letting Niko IGL. Didn't work in Mouz and didn't work in FaZe.
2019-08-28 19:50
very similar reasons to mine, i respect that - Have a lot of respect for guardian and his accomplishments. - Liked old Mouz a lot back around the MLG major days. Can't be specific and thought Niko was an insane player so ofc. I loved his transfer to FaZe. - Liked Karrigan since his DIG days - olof is my favorite player of all time. I just fell in love with the guy after his streams with pasha + he was a proper beast at the time - rain - I was never a big fan of him as much in comparison, however, I've gained a lot of respect for him as a player after a match against SK on Cache while under FaZe. He basically solo carried the game into overtime, memorable game. hltv.org/matches/2312164/faze-vs-sk-esl-.. (this is the match)
2019-08-29 01:50
It saddens me whenever I see the loads of shit people get in here for being Faze fans when there are a good bunch of true silent fans that simply love and respect the scene and have only taken a liking to the team due to it consisting of old 'washed up' legends of CS. I personally don't give a shit about Faze as an org, if they got bought out by another org or whatever, (say TSM), I'd happily change my flair. I only care about the players. As with every other top team, they garnered a lot of disgusting childish fans in late 2017/2018 at their peak when they were dominating everyone. Those guys managed to gain this website's infamy with the various retarded threads they came up with and everyone generalized that all faze fans are complete bellends. The only upside to karrigan's kick is the transition of these plastic twats to other teams, so at least something good came out of that ordeal :D
2019-08-29 02:05
#136
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
agree, I loved seeing the big transfer of Olof and Guardian to FaZe. I had only followed csgo for about 6 months at that point. reminded me of coL and NoA from 1.6 in a way. bunch of veteran legends joining together to dominate for the remainder of their primes. dominated their first tournament without dropping a map..was awesome..sadly past most of their primes these days. could care less about Tfue suing FaZe or whiny little tards talking shit/trolling. all about the players. anyone who follows a team and sticks to them regardless of roster moves soley because of the organization is a straight up weirdo.
2019-08-29 02:13
#139
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Dogehino 
+1
2019-08-29 02:38
Exactly, I never understood that. It's common in football to be a fan of a club whatever changes it may go through, but in csgo it's kinda weird. It always baffled me seeing a bunch of threads made by 'faze fans' suggesting changes to the roster by removing 3-4 players from the lineup. How can you possibly call yourself a fan of a team if you want it almost completely revamped?
2019-08-29 16:17
Maybe because in esports you don't have like 15 or 23 guys in a team. You have 6 in this case, players and coach. The less people in the team/roster, the more you appreciate them imo
2019-08-30 05:14
mibr fans talking about being cocky cmon. u guys live in 2016 till dis day.
2019-08-29 16:18
A lot of the member on this site are kids. The ones whos cocky are most probably kids. You choose to dislike a team because they have cocky kid fans on a forum (it applies to all teams who's winning/dominating).
2019-08-29 18:03
#2
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Algeria abdodz32 
They screw with our beloved Tfue so fuck them
2019-08-28 10:49
nice bait
2019-08-28 10:52
because they dont add good players like coldzera and maybe aleksib
2019-08-28 10:49
#63
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Latvia Frip! 
Even if they wanted how tf did you expect them to do that after major player lock
2019-08-28 13:05
#95
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Germany sza_ 
FaZe wont spend any money on their csgo team anymore. They will most likely split up when their contracts end (NiKo and rain will probably stick together). Olof to a swedish team like NiP for example and GuardiaN, idek.
2019-08-28 14:18
Guardian said he will retire after FaZe, so I'd imagine he will retire.
2019-08-28 19:00
#123
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Germany sza_ 
Yeah that's true. I really don't want him to retire yet since he still has it in him regardless what people say. I think this roster would be kinda cool: Nexa huNter NiKo Rain GuardiaN
2019-08-28 19:32
Coldzera good player ahahhaaahah
2019-08-29 17:22
better than anyone in spanish cs history
2019-08-29 17:27
Im not from Spain baitzera trash btw, NEO>Coldzera for FaZe RN
2019-08-29 17:28
Better than anyone from bulgaria maybe cerq now coming close but still not equal
2019-08-30 10:51
idc, everyone in bulgaria trash
2019-08-30 12:10
cerq is really good actually
2019-09-03 16:45
#4
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Russia SW@G 
FaZe UP!!!
2019-08-28 10:50
#65
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Turkey i_eat_kebab 
FaZeUP!!!!!
2019-08-28 13:14
#83
NEO | 
Romania Ciubuc112 
FaZeUP!!
2019-08-28 13:31
FaZeUp
2019-08-29 10:55
#152
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Europe UhddiS 
FaZeUp :))))
2019-08-29 10:56
FaZeUp
2019-08-29 11:07
LetsGoFaZeUP!!
2019-08-29 17:23
#234
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Lebanon WhySoSer!ous 
#FaZeUP!
2019-08-30 09:52
#246
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Romania Iosif 
Let's fucking go booooysss
2019-08-30 12:24
#5
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Germany GrammarNaziGuy 
Idk men
2019-08-28 10:50
#6
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Denmark WeiZy0 
I just dont like olof, and nikos attitude, and personality =D
2019-08-28 10:50
you dont like olof? blastralis gey
2019-08-28 10:51
#27
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Somebody got hurt lul.
2019-08-28 10:59
#233
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Russia SW@G 
Why why are are you you being being stupid stupid??
2019-08-30 09:36
#235
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Im not. :)
2019-08-30 10:42
#9
GuardiaN | 
Other wInt3r 
And that's why you hate the whole team?
2019-08-28 10:51
#26
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Never Said I hate the whole team?
2019-08-28 10:59
#19
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Slovakia FlyingButter 
Guess thats right...Niko and his ego...
2019-08-28 10:57
Yeah the ego that everyone knows he has... of course....
2019-08-29 17:23
Olof is un hate-able, unless you a beta bitch
2019-08-28 10:58
#29
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Not really.
2019-08-28 11:00
look at flag and flair men
2019-08-28 11:03
#41
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Still salty I see. Go play some cache games on faceit, as all other swedes do. xD
2019-08-28 11:28
But ... but Cache is good :(
2019-08-28 13:19
#78
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Meh. I think new cache will be better. I'd use to love to play cache, but since its not in the mappool I dont see a reason playing it. :P
2019-08-28 13:29
ASSSTRALIS is gonna be bitch about it and perma banning it anyway, why would u care
2019-08-29 02:30
#147
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Your comment makes no sense at all. Please try again.
2019-08-29 07:53
#79
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
+1
2019-08-28 13:30
you dont like olofs personality, wtf? there is not a single reason to hate him, or you just name me a reason lel
2019-08-28 11:16
#38
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Denmark WeiZy0 
When he played in fnatic, he always wanted to be the star player. He didnt want to change anything for the better. Which lead to the first changes in the old days with fnatic. :) - Imo, when you've that attitude you ain't a person Im gonna like or cheer for.
2019-08-28 11:21
So back when he was the strongest player in Fnatic it was wrong for him to be given the star player role? Fnatic split because they were fighting within team and lost motivation not because Olof was a star player. 0/8 bait
2019-08-28 11:24
#40
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Denmark WeiZy0 
No. You're wrong. They did fight yes. BECAUSE OLOF WANTED TO BE THE STAR PLAYER, NOT CHANGING ANYTHING. Read ffs. Also no. He wasn't the strongest. Krimz was/is better. So was JW. But jw suck atm so yeah.
2019-08-28 11:27
What are you talking about, no one else on fnatic was good enough to be a dedicated star player its why Olof was acquired in the first place. Krimz / Flusha were solid players that did their roles amazingly well. You just seem to hate Olof so I wont continue this with you.
2019-08-28 11:30
#45
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Not hating, disliking. Imagine if brits could think, and actually had a decent knowledge of anything beside talking their mother language. :/
2019-08-28 11:31
You are Danish bro. you're not much better.
2019-08-28 11:31
#48
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Oh, don't talk plz :D You just proved how much u follow CS. I bet u aint even good at the game. But hey there is hope for you. You can just try to be on he analyst desk :)
2019-08-28 11:32
I've followed CS since 2014 thank you and I proved how much I follow CS by saying you're countries people aren't much better than mine? Ok i'll change it for you, Danish people are not better at all than Brits. Both are toxic which you've clearly shown that you are here.
2019-08-28 11:35
#53
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Uh 2014. :D Haha. Pleb. Plz don't text to me, u'd just show u know nothing bro. :) You put urself in this. Else I wouldn't known I was better/know more. Btw, toxic? Nice brain activity. LUL.
2019-08-28 11:36
Oh no I didn't watch cs source or 1.6 :( I am a big noob and my opinion is invalid. You have shown that you know nothing about the game by blaming all of fnatics troubles on Olof. And if you have to question me calling you toxic just count the amount of attempted insults towards me compared to insults against you. Enjoy your day Danish man.
2019-08-28 11:40
#58
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Denmark WeiZy0 
I only said u were a noob cuz u acting like u know shit, when u don't. Lol. Idiot.. Use ur brain =D
2019-08-28 11:49
0 iq user spotted
2019-08-28 13:01
#93
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Try again. 2nd russian.
2019-08-28 14:15
#97
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Turkey Slapdash 
gotem
2019-08-28 14:29
I like how ur argument went from the personality and attributes of Olofmeister being likeable to just attacking eachother's backgrounds and countries. xD
2019-08-29 02:45
#162
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Nah. Try again.
2019-08-29 12:06
I mean you guys started attacking each-other based off the fact that you're Danish and British.
2019-08-30 00:04
what exactly do you expect from hltv community
2019-08-30 10:55
I'm new to it so I didn't really expect this XD. Don't worry though, I'll look forward to it when I see future posts.
2019-08-31 11:41
U are retarted mens)))
2019-08-29 11:06
#163
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Denmark WeiZy0 
I don't think you know the words you're typing. Maybe u should look them up before using them :)
2019-08-29 12:06
no he didn't wtf. but EVEN WHEN it was cuz of him, you're still hating/disliking him for some shit from years ago? thats a nice personality YOU got there mate. by your logic everyone should hate s1mple till the end of his career, cuz he was toxic back then? just childish manners you got there nothing else. im not even a fan of olof nor faze or fnatic but this is bs
2019-08-28 11:32
#50
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Sure thing. There hasn't really been giving any info about he changed. So how can I know? And yes. That was the main reason they did split in fnatic. Hating is such a strong word. Can we keep it to the words I've been typing instead of making it up in ur brain? Thanks. But I guess is just easier to say smth which hasn't even been said. Sure u also wanna kill kennyS.
2019-08-28 11:34
"hating/DISLIKING" i didn't screw any words so just fck off. they had enough problems within the team and they surely didn't split up only cuz of him lmao. if you don't like him, it's completely okay, but atleast for a good reason and not for some sht you talk about.
2019-08-28 11:38
#55
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Yes. Hating. I never said I'd hate him. I can surely dislike somebody for what they have done in the past. Jesus.
2019-08-28 11:39
That is actually interesting. That uk brain didnt understand shit but you may be at least partially right. Do you really think Olof's attitude by itself could've led to the split? Like that it was the key issue in the team?
2019-08-30 11:00
#42
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Belgium ZxTox 
Smh i have the same attitude as NiKo.
2019-08-28 11:28
And why do you dislike NiKo? I am not gonna ask why you dislike olof bcz I see that a lot of ppl already did that and I was not following scene that much before 4+ years soo I can't know If ua re right or not. If It's bcz of that video wehre he was screaming at ChrisJ than you should know It got debunked far ago, It was taken out of the content and even ChirisJ admited that himself on one of his streams.
2019-08-28 18:56
#126
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Denmark WeiZy0 
No. I just dislike his attitude, and behavior overall. His ego is too much for me. :)
2019-08-28 21:07
How do you know he has such a big ego?
2019-08-28 21:19
#128
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Denmark WeiZy0 
How he's acting towards teammates etc. You can also see it on his playstyle when he was igl :) And a bit inside info ^^
2019-08-28 21:22
TLDR: Source and deductions = trust me bro
2019-08-29 17:25
basically rumours and your own opinion about him
2019-08-29 17:26
#218
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Denmark WeiZy0 
Not rumors, but k. :)
2019-08-29 20:45
I really cheer for FaZe, bcs i wan't NEO and Olof in playoffs (Olof need to stay the Only one person who attended every Major playoff ever)
2019-08-28 10:52
#13
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United States karrygan 
because they kicked the best igl in the world
2019-08-28 10:53
+1 once they kicked karrigan and still can't find a good replacement for him, i see them as a joke team
2019-08-28 11:02
+1
2019-08-28 13:20
#84
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
There was a "kick karrigan" thread on HLTV every hour when he was still in the team. Suddenly, after they kicked him, everyone wants him back, even though Faze would not reach Faceit playoffs if NiKo wouldn't start calling.
2019-08-28 13:32
#99
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Turkey Slapdash 
This.
2019-08-28 14:30
#108
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Sweden Trkmag 
+1
2019-08-28 16:14
#131
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United States karrygan 
Nikos calling worked in London because it was brand new and other teams hadn’t seen it before and because it fits into faze’s strengths nicely, not because karrigan is a bad igl. Don’t ever listen to this community about roster changes they don’t know shit
2019-08-29 00:42
#132
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
I didn't say karrigan is a bad igl. He's a great igl actually, but that doesn't mean faze would be doing better with karrigan now. Look at today's match.
2019-08-29 01:27
#146
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South Africa nimmaJ 
It also doesnt mean they would be doing worse. Mouz have 2-0d them in bo3s and were favored by the odds going into that match.
2019-08-29 06:54
#155
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
but now they beat them, even without karrigan and in a more important tournament
2019-08-29 10:59
#168
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And in a bo1 in a much less important match. Non elimination. In not even sure what you're arguing at this point.
2019-08-29 17:20
they werent prepared last 2 times
2019-08-29 17:25
#193
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South Africa nimmaJ 
They werent prepared at ESL Cologne or EPL, two of the biggest non major events? Theyre both Grand Slam events and so far Cologne has been higher quality than the major with better teams. Why even accept the invite or qualify if they're not going to prepare that's just as much their fault. Classic exclusive fanboy.
2019-08-29 17:49
They were just obviously underprepared lol, Now faze are prepared theres nothing much else
2019-08-29 17:53
#196
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South Africa nimmaJ 
By basic logic every team should be more prepared after a player break and theyve still shown nothing in bo3s yet.
2019-08-29 17:54
No, Mouz already played in Challengers, FaZe didnt
2019-08-29 17:57
#202
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And I could argue that gave Faze an advantage because theyve see mouz play and faze havent seen them play. In actuality they had equal time to prepare over the break and then all the legends got to watch the challengers play and see what they've developed.
2019-08-29 18:03
ok
2019-08-29 18:03
#205
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Thanks for conceding :)
2019-08-29 18:04
not rly wanna read all that man keep it to short responses look up the NRG and Liquid match its fucking nuts
2019-08-29 18:06
#210
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Cant read 2 sentences lmao, thanks for conceding m8 ;)
2019-08-29 18:10
okay Mr.Masmashahalal
2019-08-29 18:28
#216
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Weak
2019-08-29 19:19
#160
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United States karrygan 
Oops sorry didn’t mean to put words in your mouth. I don’t really think karrigan was the problem tbh. I thought that Olof’s absence was a big part of their performance issues and that they were better with xist and cromen but that’s just me.
2019-08-29 11:19
+1
2019-08-30 10:44
#261
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North America TheReelMVP 
>karrigan >Best igl world Choose one Do you still actually believe he is the best?
2019-09-03 16:45
because THEY LOST TO C9 ON BOSTON FINALS :(((( THEY SHOULDVE WON WTFFFF MENSSSS))))))
2019-08-28 10:53
#15
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Russia LANAdelREYlul 
Because they will win major and all shitsports, ASStralis and shitquid fans are angery
2019-08-28 10:53
#17
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Netherlands Krin 
What do results have to do with hating a team? You're only allowed to hate a team when they underperform?
2019-08-28 10:54
Yeah thats actually how it works when the teams underperform every1 hates em
2019-08-29 17:26
#213
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Netherlands Krin 
That is quite sad. Imagine me hating the team I support (look at flair) because they just lost twice...
2019-08-29 18:25
obv not the fans of that team, but the community
2019-08-29 18:27
#18
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Germany Shackrag 
i have nothing against faze. i like guardian and every older event i thought that karrigan seemed like a pretty nice guy with the way he interacted with the crowd and so on. guardian is an awesome awper and you gotta respect olof and neo as legends, the only problem i have with faze is niko. i just don't like him as a person.
2019-08-28 10:55
#23
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Slovakia FlyingButter 
True....egoistic and easy to tilt...
2019-08-28 10:58
Not an insult, but when you are that good at the game than It becomes pretty hard to not get tilted when your temmates are doing stupid mistakes/are playing much worse than you ever would.
2019-08-28 18:59
#130
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Slovakia FlyingButter 
Yeah,you are right but that personality is what put your team mates under more pressure = even more mistakes. But sure I agree and got your point.
2019-08-29 00:14
Ofc typical sheep saying eGO BTw because everyone knows NiKo has so much ego haHA
2019-08-29 17:27
#219
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Germany Shackrag 
i never said something about niko having an big ego or sth like that , I only said that i dont like him as a person. but if you assume that i dislike him because of his ego, then its more like you believe that its something dislikable :)
2019-08-29 23:57
#20
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Finland Kanis 
their players are ok, but they are a fucking mess as an org
2019-08-28 10:57
#34
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Germany Roflcopter234 
+1 so overrated
2019-08-28 11:14
Who cares about org?
2019-08-28 18:59
#125
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Finland Kanis 
some people do, i'm just trying to give a reason why people would hate faze
2019-08-28 20:49
#25
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Ukraine R0m4nus 
Because they play awful CS They just aiming, no strats, no ideas, no brain
2019-08-28 10:58
#64
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Portugal Vascometro69 
Yolo strats
2019-08-28 13:10
only noobs hate Faze!
2019-08-28 11:02
#153
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Europe UhddiS 
+10000000000000
2019-08-29 10:58
#FAZEUP
2019-08-29 11:01
LetsGoFaZeUP
2019-08-29 17:27
always fazeup!!
2019-08-29 17:30
#221
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Turkey i_eat_kebab 
+1 my men)))
2019-08-29 23:59
faze mens best mens)))
2019-08-30 09:32
#33
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Denmark OscarGF 
I think it’s an annoying team. Atleast it was. Just a mixup of very good players which flew way too high and fell down very hard.
2019-08-28 11:10
No karrigan no Faze
2019-08-28 11:14
#154
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Europe UhddiS 
screw that guy. he showed his true colours
2019-08-29 10:59
+1
2019-08-29 17:27
#36
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India dashingdasher 
Most people hate them because of their fans, who were super cocky during faze's glory days...
2019-08-28 11:16
#247
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Romania Iosif 
Not really, compared with MiBR, ENCE, Astralis fans, Faze's fans did nothing.
2019-08-30 12:27
Imo only Brazilian fans were worse than faze fans...
2019-08-30 14:02
#250
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Romania Iosif 
Bruhhh...
2019-08-30 14:13
#47
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
Because they kicked Karrigan out. The best results they had in 2018 were when Olof was out (with Cormen as stand-in) and even though, they kicked Karrigan. It makes no sense so even if I like most of the players (exception Olof), I can't support FaZe anymore.
2019-08-28 11:31
#57
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Europe RiflerDash 
i don't hate faze. I just don't think they won't go through...Neo has brought alot of stability to faze which is good but Niko is definetly not playing aswell as he did when karrigan was there. And i think teams like Navi,Ence,Astralis,Liquid,NRG,Vitality are just straight up better now a days. I respect them for what they did when the all star line-up worked but now they're just a stable team that isn't very good even with Niko. I feel like Neo is giving him the wrong role. Niko isn't supposed to be your lurky kinda player in my opinion. I'd put him as either entry or second man maybe 3rd so you can have him in the clutch situations.
2019-08-28 11:42
+Neo is shit He is just good enough skillwise for a top 5 team(probably not even top10-15). FaZe needs an IGL but they also need an ok player at worst, Neo is not ok, he is really bad for a player that is in the top 10 team atm(and even worse for a team that wants to climb up to the top 3).
2019-08-28 19:03
cause nobody like REAL madrid , team that just buying star players , never raised one (RAUL only) , same shit with Faze, money talks , and i don't like this way, and yeah fuck guardiand , this fat traitor doesn't deserve winning anything
2019-08-28 13:04
cuz retard
2019-08-28 13:04
-1 Terrible name
2019-08-28 13:21
+1 good name
2019-08-28 14:29
Bro real question, why is there a shortage of toilets in India?
2019-08-28 13:16
xaxaxaxaxaxax +1
2019-08-28 13:21
The real question why obesity rate is so high in america even though u got toilets
2019-08-28 21:26
#145
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Probably because 40% of their population doesnt live in mud
2019-08-29 06:51
they shit
2019-08-28 13:21
#82
draken | 
Sweden rawrxdd 
kick karrigan for adren OMEGALUL
2019-08-28 13:31
#85
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
There was a "kick karrigan" thread on HLTV every hour when he was still in the team. Suddenly, after they kicked him, everyone wants him back, even though Faze would not reach Faceit playoffs if NiKo wouldn't start calling.
2019-08-28 13:33
#144
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Ever heard the phrase "you don't know what you had until its gone"
2019-08-29 06:50
#157
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Czech Republic KOKOT123456 
they knew what they had tho, and now they beat current karrigan's team
2019-08-29 11:02
#173
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South Africa nimmaJ 
How can you say they knew what they had when you literally just said there were kick karrigan threads and Niko usurped leadership. They clearly did not know what they had or they would have tried to make it work with one of the best IGLs in the world and a single bo1 means literally nothing faze could still go 1-3 and mouz could go 3-1.
2019-08-29 17:23
Niko didn't "usurped" he just started calling because he was the only one with experience, you have such a biased view wtf
2019-08-29 17:28
#191
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Uhm no, he literally took over leading in the middle of a tournament. Ever seen any other team move a pure IGL out of his role in the middle of a major? Nope just faze. If they wanted to change leadership it should have been done after that major or before so they had actual time to prepare with Niko as a caller. Not just tell Karrigan he isnt the IGL anymore because they went down 0-2, that's literally the definition of usurp.
2019-08-29 17:44
ok i guess it was better for him to ignore the results they were getting and get 0-3'd at the major
2019-08-29 17:46
#194
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South Africa nimmaJ 
You know you can make changes and adjustments without completely changing leadership right? You're also aware that it's perfectly possible that if Karrigan kept leading they would have won those 3 games. They didnt face very good teams
2019-08-29 17:51
They would have to do big changes and adjustements to perform better and that can't be in a middle of a major too, so they were stuck with they're options. Niko just took the role because he was the only one that igl'ed in the past. It was obvious that karrigan's system was already doomed
2019-08-29 17:56
#201
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Karrigans system was doomed because the players lost faith in the system not because it was a bad system again the exact definition of usurp. The changes and adjustments that they would have had to make in no way are as huge as completely changing leadership. Not to mention its principalistic you dont throw your leader under the bus mid tournament. You handle that between tournaments At this point your arguments are biased and narrow minded, you need to look at the big picture
2019-08-29 18:01
The players lost faith in the system after some though losses not out of nowhere. I just think that it wouldn't be wise from them to get 0'3d and handle it after the major
2019-08-29 18:04
#208
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South Africa nimmaJ 
The players were losing faith well before thay because they wanted to play more individualistic and karrigan wanted to add structure, like you see from mouz now, team oriented strategy. So you think it would be better to lose a top 3 IGL in the world then POTENTIALLY bomb out at a major? Like I said both Faze and their fans were short-sighted. And look how they spiraled down the next 9 months after that
2019-08-29 18:08
The player started losing faith after boston, don't come with that shit of individualistic. The loss in katowice was the nail in the coffin, from there only good performances from faze were cologne and belo horizonte. When olof ended his break, people thinked that old faze would be back but again they ended up with poor performances at eleague premier and stockholm. A top3 igl that is known for stagnating after some time in a team and known for choking. Yes i would prefer to not bomb-out at a major. Karrigan had to go, but there were not many options at that time. I understand you have a biased version and you only think about niko robbing the igl role but just don't talk about things that you don't know
2019-08-29 18:14
#226
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South Africa nimmaJ 
"Dont come with that individualistic shit" When karrigan has said in multiple interviews since joining mouz that he got to lead the way he wanted to more and was much more structured. You're the one with the biased view ignoring known facts. I'd rather choke finals then struggle to make top 4s The problem in the team was never karrigan. During that period olof never got back into form, guardian fell off and then rain followed, especially once karrigan left because he wasnt being set up properly as an entry which makes the role a nightmare. Karrigan didn't have to go, it was just the easy way out for Niko to scapegoat leadership when his was 5x worse
2019-08-30 04:54
#170
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Other nt_newfag 
hltv hypocrites pick two
2019-08-29 17:22
#92
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Tunisia Respecc 
I dislike faze as an org because they like the PSG of csgo, they buy all the players they want but the still choke.
2019-08-28 14:09
their org is a sellout
2019-08-28 14:16
#107
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Sweden Trkmag 
No reason, I like FaZe
2019-08-28 16:14
#110
s1mple | 
Ukraine s0fcat 
who hates faze?
2019-08-28 16:19
Are you new here? They are hated since from the beginning, the only reason why you can't see ppl hating on FaZe now is bcz they are irrelevant, that's all, from 2016-2018 they received such an amount of hate, maybe the most hate after the SK/MiBR back than(which was to some degree understandable If you more think about the attitude of their fanbase and Brazilian scene in general).
2019-08-28 19:09
#149
s1mple | 
Ukraine s0fcat 
no im not, i also follow them from the beginning but i dont see any reason to hate them
2019-08-29 10:14
You asked "Who hates faze?" not "Why would you hate FaZe?". I don't see a reason either.
2019-08-29 19:52
Maybe because they have a shitty 10 y/o fanbase that have started playing CS after CoD. And their owner is a douchebag.
2019-08-28 16:20
Soo bcz of some stupid Cod players and their brand CS GO pro players should be hated?
2019-08-28 19:05
#143
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South Africa nimmaJ 
No one you dont know personally should ever be hated. But yes if you dislike the other fans if that team and they have unlikable people in their organizational staff then of course you're not going to support them, it's all subjective.
2019-08-29 06:48
#138
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Qatar olaolakaka 
Because they sued my boy tfue mens ((
2019-08-29 02:33
#142
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India h4rd^ 
Fans are too cocky always saying EzAf and keeps denying the fact that someone else is so much better than them.
2019-08-29 06:42
#148
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Europe jvesper 
We just wanna see banks
2019-08-29 07:54
#161
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Russia Novorossiya 
I don't hate them.
2019-08-29 11:18
U goose noone hates faze wdym
2019-08-29 16:18
its like PSG in football... massive money.. highes salary and no big Major win / psg no Championsleague win
2019-08-29 16:23
I have a better question, why is India the only country in the world that claims to become a superpower by 2020 but still didn’t crack the mystery of not pooping on the streets?
2019-08-29 17:21
#187
Dosia | 
Russia Alett 
i love faze. But their game leaves much to be desired on last events, gl on major them
2019-08-29 17:29
#189
Dosia | 
Hungary Joco413 
Cause FaZe is a popular esport brand. Hating on popular stuff is ironically popular by itself.
2019-08-29 17:31
people hate faze because the management is an absolute shitshow, but what they forget is that the actual FaZe core is a bunch of impressive, cool guys - GuardiaN, second best awper from eastern europe (obvs S1mple top1) - Niko, just insane player and cool guy - Rain, extremely consistent and cool nordic king - olofmeister, don't even need to give reasons for him kicking karrigan was an oof cause hes a galaxy brain for cs but he wasn't working well with the team, Niko IGLing was obvs a bad choice but the best they had at the time
2019-08-29 17:31
I must say. I hate the org. I really do. Their lifestyle and stuff. I hate it, but I really like the csgo team since Niko joined
2019-08-29 18:10
#199
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United Kingdom JayCe97 
Because very faze thread is -olof or their 5th player and +random star player from any random team
2019-08-29 18:00
#212
syrsoN | 
Germany Koxky 
I don't like FaZe because the only thing they are really good at is buying good player off other teams. I don't hate any of the particular players, infact I fucking love olof but the org is shit
2019-08-29 18:17
Oh really I think FaZe is experimenting a way that a lot of fans of CSGO are dreaming but no one dare to do. It is bring 5 best players of each position into a team and see what's the chemistry between them. It's kind of a dream coming true to a lot of fans, no matter it works(in 2017 and early half of 2018) or not(late half of 2018 till now)
2019-08-30 04:58
It's HLTV dude, hate is everywhere
2019-08-30 00:12
#237
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Germany L1lK1M 
+1 it keeps this website alive.. its based on hate and racism
2019-08-30 10:45
because of hunter's toxic cousin
2019-08-30 00:37
#231
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Portugal MrPato 
Don’t get it aswell. My early teenage years we’re spent on CoD, and since FaZe was one of the most known orgs at the time (regarding CoD) , I started following them pratically since the beginning. After CoD kinda lost it’s spotlight, I moved to CSGO and not long after, FaZe announced their CSGO rooster. And not only did I love FaZe from CoD, but with this new rooster, they brought Fox, which was Portuguese, and ofc I had to support the only pro player from my country. So yeah, i’ve been a massive FaZe fanboy since the beginning, I admire everything the org itself does and I think they have done so much regarding esports. FaZe and Optic were basically the founding fathers of the CoD Pro Scene, and to this day, FaZe is still doing amazing things for the community
2019-08-30 05:26
because why not
2019-08-30 10:55
#256
ceh9 | 
World mukas17 
Because insane amount of skill and t2 lvl play. Niko ruins every team he joins.
2019-09-03 16:39
#257
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North America TheReelMVP 
Because I don't like the idea of big names coming in and trying to buy their way to the top, while it hasn't been working out for them recently they have always had a stigma for me. It's the same reason I'll dislike the new 100t and col rosters. Teams like liquid and astralis had between 1-2 years before they hit the top and they had to work hard for it.
2019-09-03 16:41
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