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STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Another prime example of a team underrating support players. They're gonna miss NBK a lot and they're gonna suffer without him filling the gaps when needed. It's not like he was doing badly himself either, look at his stats throughout 2019 and they're completely fine for a support player. Sure he was pretty shit this major, but making a major decision based of 1 tournament is always a bad idea.
2019-09-09 09:24
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#1
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Bulgaria KadirCSGO 
it will be for the next french schuflfe
2019-09-09 09:26
#3
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Vitality will lose then, NBK always wins shuffles
2019-09-09 09:28
thats true but not this time cuz G2 is going for international roster. So there ain't any good French team for nbk.
2019-09-09 09:39
#19
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Well if it is another shuffle, then it assumes he joins a French team, if not then he could do a Kio 2.0 where he joins an international team and does better than the team that kicked him.
2019-09-09 09:43
I don't see Faze picking him cuz he ain't star player. Also there ain't any top international teams which will pick him. Maybe cr4zy goes international and pick him. Otherwise not many options. NiP and Fnatic will remain Swedish imo. Maybe VP but that even won't be t1 team. All top teams are stacked too.
2019-09-09 09:47
#29
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
The all-star approach for Faze has failed, so it wouldn't be suprising to see them maybe going for NBK if NEO leaves. He's still a very good support (which they don't have) and he might just pick up the IGL role aswell.
2019-09-09 09:49
Well Faze wasn't that good. They never had all star lineup. First Karrigan then AdreN(I know he was good but not with his stint with FaZe) and now NEO,olof,GuardiaN,rain all have turned to bots. I don't think FaZe ever had all star lineup. They had stars after their peak and one bot in their team always. Astralis,TL,NRG are only all star lineups atm. Faze would try, I'm pretty sure after taking someone from cr4zy to replace NEO,olof/guardian.
2019-09-09 09:56
#37
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Yh i can see them getting 2 players
2019-09-09 09:57
Lmao. Liquid and Astralis are definitely not all star lineups. Imo the old FaZe with karrigan was the closest to an all star lineup. In TL nitr0 and stew are strat, awping and support, the rest are stars. In Astralis if you think Glaive is a star then you on something. Only stars on Astralis are Magisk and Device. On NRG the only one without real star potential imo is Stan although he certainly comes closer than daps. The old FaZe had 4 stars and Karrigan, who had his moments.
2019-09-10 09:54
Liquid is the most skilled csgo lineup of all time wtfffff
2019-09-10 16:24
#157
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Romania decis1ve 
Liquid is the only one for me. Stewie was a star in cloud9, elige was allways a star player, twistzz is a star player, same as naf. And nitr0 was a really good entry fragger 3 years ago. Liquid and Faze seem to me the closest to an all star player team. Faze seemed *
2019-09-10 23:30
Note, I don’t think any team is all stars. Also you were saying that stewie was a star in c9 (true) but he’s not on c9 anymore. And you can hardly call nitr0 a star now.
2019-09-11 06:48
#161
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Romania decis1ve 
all star doesnt mean they still are, they cant be all stars in a team, some of them changed roles
2019-09-11 20:51
lets us see this way... I see Astralis as a star lineup. Here's why: Everyone on this lineup can clutch like a god. 3 players are aimgods. xyp9x is best player in his role and he is very capable of multi kills on rounds he has to shutdown offense on CT side. gla1ve has such a good spray control. He gets so many multi kills based on his pure skill. I've these guys win 1v1 duels many times when dry peeking one of the bests itw. It can attributed to timing but not always. You know NRG. While Liquid is still a star lineup. Stew is great CT side player. He compromises because he knows his team has 3 better players than him. Nitr0 is a beast on CT side ovp. How tf can you not call that a guy best AWPer on the map? Maybe you're confused that these guys don't frag much so they are not star players. You always have fixed amount of kills so one of them is going to lack behind. Roster shuffles don't occur like that. Every team wants to change that guy lacking behind only to get another guy bottom fragging. Also Faze with Karrigan was noway all star. For all star you need top class players who are probably top 20-30 players itw. Karrigan is no way that kind of fragger. Astralis is on another level so every player has pretty much good stat.
2019-09-12 20:56
But the Star* role is heavily reliant on fragging. Being a support like Xyp9x or Stew is now makes you not really a star. And your point that Nitr0 is a great ct overpass awper doesn’t make him a star. It means he’s really good on liquids best map. A star is someone who in general must perform well in fragging in order for their team to do well. Someone who can put the team on their back. Nitr0 and Xyp9x aren’t those players. I agree that Xyp9x is the best support in the world, but that doesn’t make him a star.
2019-09-13 03:41
Astralis isnt an All star line-up their team is such a good team because of teamwork
2019-09-10 12:55
check #165. It is most skilled team imo. It gives me shivers when I see device,dupreeh,magisk win deacos without a single utility alone on their individual play. But attribute it to team work because they don't wanna think their fav players are actually worse than Astralis' players.
2019-09-12 20:58
pretty much all pros on the tier 1 scene are about the same skill all can 1 deag but why astralis are the best is because gla1ve is such an insane leader like if you would cut 4 players out of astralis and only keep one you should keep gla1ve or you are dumb
2019-09-13 12:56
Dev1ce and Mag1sk are all-star players in my opinion. Dupreeh and Xyp9x have their moments, but are mostly for information and map coverage. They play a lot of entry frag or deep support as well. As for gla1ve, by himself, he doesn't equivalate to any of his teammates, or other top players, but Astralis still wouldn't be what it is without him. He is incredible at skill identification and quick logistical thinking. He is an insane IGL. For the individual skill, he is lackluster, but he knows that he isn't Magisk and plays as if he is fitting that role. He plays to put Magisk in the position to do that damage.
2019-09-13 02:08
yeah so they are not all star line-up
2019-09-13 12:55
cant lose if zywoo is on it
2019-09-10 15:01
NBK always wins shuffles doesn’t matter who the players are.
2019-09-10 16:23
Not happening this time. Maybe he doesn't join a team for some time.
2019-09-12 20:47
#70
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Bulgaria KadirCSGO 
yep
2019-09-09 13:50
#88
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Yep
2019-09-10 10:49
kenny always wins shuffles.
2019-09-10 17:43
i aren't think that
2019-09-13 13:08
Give me one example since 2015
2019-09-13 15:13
#2
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
There just going all on just like G2 kicking shox and lucky there going for gold it's not his stats it will be internal and that he isn't the best they can get so why keep him (not saying what there doing is good) just saying what there TRYING ;)
2019-09-09 09:27
#5
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
I understand that they want to be Nr.1, but if they're going for "the best" then why kick the best support in French CS history? Unless he's a massive twat (which isn't impossible) but seems weird as it wasn't long ago since they said that the team didn't have big egos. I see what u mean tho :)
2019-09-09 09:31
#6
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
I know nbk is friends with allot of YouTubers and I like him alot agian it will be internal problems with or around nbk personally I would kick rbk but ye know
2019-09-09 09:33
#7
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
RPK EVEN SORRY
2019-09-09 09:34
#9
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
LoL men))
2019-09-09 09:35
#14
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
You see what I am saying tho
2019-09-09 09:38
#17
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Ye i see
2019-09-09 09:41
well French never produced much supports. Haha I don't see him better than Lucky. Maybe best support but no atm.
2019-09-09 09:40
Being a French support player is the hardest role in all of counter strike.
2019-09-10 16:25
Yep thats true.
2019-09-12 20:47
#122
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United Kingdom boydicus14 
Why fake flagging UK?
2019-09-10 15:13
#126
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
Wtf I live in Lincolnshire lol
2019-09-10 16:21
#132
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United Kingdom boydicus14 
pls learn grammar then
2019-09-10 16:30
#133
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
I have dyslexia it's very bad and it's the internet I don't really care for grammar people understand it so why care. You get what I am saying?
2019-09-10 16:32
#142
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United Kingdom boydicus14 
I do but I had to read your sentence like 6 times to understand it
2019-09-10 17:02
#148
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United Kingdom Dylan9007 
Okay not much I can do sorry 😔
2019-09-10 17:34
#4
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France Kabby 
That's not the main reason of his kick, there were internal issue since ALEX is taking more and more IGLing duties and even the captain role in the team. And NBK- as "founder" of that roster is taking it pretty bad (understandable imo)
2019-09-09 09:28
#8
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Then that's just Vitality snaking NBK then. Sucks alot for him.
2019-09-09 09:35
#10
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France Kabby 
Yup, but you know french rosters and backstabbing... :/
2019-09-09 09:36
#11
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
FeelsFrenchMen((
2019-09-09 09:37
#13
dupreeh | 
Indonesia Ugha 
Nbk seems fine with Alex taking the igl role, but not when he take the captain status. I mean who wouldnt get pissed if someone just take your team from you like that
2019-09-09 09:38
#106
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France OtelloO 
If adding a random dude in the roster is a massive threat to your leading position then it means you're not a natural leader or you're doing something bad. A good leader relies on good legitimacy to be a leader. And no random dude can break legitimacy in a few weeks. Being a leader is not a matter of being a good friend or a loyal guy, it's about giving people the feeling that with you they will always go in the right direction.
2019-09-10 13:01
If only vitality add shox to their roster they can improve their results. In my opinion NBKing is one of the best French players and IGLs
2019-09-09 09:38
nbk just surfaced out as IGL after he joined Vitality while most of Vitality's good results came after Alex became T side IGL. lmao these people will never know NBK was never a IGL.
2019-09-09 09:42
It is a well known fact that Alex was IGLing for T-side and NBK on ct. But nevertheless, I think that NBK's impact on Vitality's wins is equal to RPK and Apex. Moreover I love him as a person.
2019-09-09 09:50
Yeah I love him too. But people bring him out as a great French IGL while he isn't.
2019-09-09 09:52
#41
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
He's an ok IGL, not great tho, he's an extremely good support
2019-09-09 10:05
yeah very good support.
2019-09-09 10:05
I don't praise him as a godsent IGLl, just a decent one.
2019-09-09 10:07
ok but imo he shouldn't be a t1 IGL. co-IGL is ok and should play support and improve his fragging.
2019-09-09 10:09
Please show me where ppl think NBK is a good igl 😂
2019-09-10 16:26
How tf can I? Well there was the guy who said Nbk- was igl for both majors he won with Frenchies.
2019-09-12 20:44
I remember that guy he straight up didn’t know what he was talking about
2019-09-13 01:49
#31
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1, even better support
2019-09-09 09:51
#20
Zeus | 
Russia V9l1k 
ok, Vitality + snox
2019-09-09 09:45
#22
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
snox
2019-09-09 09:46
#66
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Canada LARRATT 
snax
2019-09-09 12:03
#67
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
hax
2019-09-09 12:04
Tax
2019-09-10 17:12
#146
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Lax
2019-09-10 17:12
NBK is the solution
2019-09-09 09:46
#26
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-09-09 09:46
NBK made every team he joined good But they still decide to kick him
2019-09-09 09:46
#27
flusha | 
Other awzaq 
because most of the time he gets in conflict with the team, either role wise or because of personality (Happened with shox,scream and happy)
2019-09-09 09:47
Tbh happy has conflicts with almost everyone or almost everyone has problems with him (same shits either way)...Scream is crap and has 0 iq in-game and was actually demanding a certain playstyle...and shox was dick riding smithizz till not so long ago as well having different play style to nbk.
2019-09-09 09:56
#36
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
True but most of the time it's not like he's the reason for the issue. The Happy problem was because it was originally planned for NBK to be IGL, but it didn't work out so Happy became IGL. The Shox problem is more because of Shox than it was because of NBK, since Shox has basically broken up every roster he's ever been in because he thinks he can IGL.
2019-09-09 09:56
#40
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-09-09 10:03
#25
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Taiwan NewTaipei 
CO-IGL, support got benched*
2019-09-09 09:46
#45
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
He was also CO-IGL but he's still a support
2019-09-09 10:11
#174
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Taiwan NewTaipei 
I know
2019-09-14 12:34
Yeah, he is not kioshima
2019-09-09 09:48
#38
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-09-09 10:02
#33
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New Zealand Eauor 
0/8
2019-09-09 09:52
#39
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
No
2019-09-09 10:03
#46
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France bjjthibz 
I'm sad about NbK being benched, but Vitality CEO said on twitter that the decision was taken before the major, and that even if they won the major he was gonna be benched. It seems there has been problems inside the teams for a few months now, due to Alex taking the IGL role. So it's not a bad perf decision as you seem to believe.
2019-09-09 10:20
#47
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
I see, even so i think NBK might have been snaked here. As it seemed like they had gotten a good structure going.
2019-09-09 10:26
#48
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France bjjthibz 
Yes actually i'm really sad about all the french scene news. I expected G2 and Vitality to have learnt from past mistakes (shuffle every 6 months) but i was wrong. Now i'm looking forward to see what will happen next. For G2 they would go international if they can buy Nexa and Hunter. Vitality should probably add Kioshima but i saw a lot of rumors saying Shox joining them, just as "player", not IGL. If true he would be a great addition of firepower, but i doubt he can work with Apex ...
2019-09-09 10:32
#49
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Yeah i agree, but since it looks like they haven't learned from past mistakes, then it looks like Shox hasn't either, and he could easily ruin the roster by trying to IGL, as he has with almost every team he's ever played for.
2019-09-09 10:34
#107
shox | 
Serbia nzzm22 
Youre ao fucking wrong holy shit. He literally stopped wanting to igl after 2017? Didnt he bring in ex6 in 2018 and said 15 times that he doesnt want to igl anymore? And recently amanek has taken the role almost completely its very clear and said by malek. He only iglead before amanek was brought in because there was no better option dumbfucks
2019-09-10 13:01
#141
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Never read anything about Shox not wanting to IGL, the only thing close is that he said, he isn't the IGL "100%" As for the Ex6tenz move, that could be true, but it could also just be because both he and NBK struggled as IGL's
2019-09-10 17:02
#147
shox | 
Serbia nzzm22 
the info was out that shox did igl work only on 2 maps, so literally he wasnt even leading anymore, and it was a slow transition to amanek igl.
2019-09-10 17:30
#69
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
hltv.org/news/27255/nbk-we-had-a-bit-of-.. Q: I wanted to talk about the dual-IGL system that you have going. In case you maybe have different ideas, perhaps on roles, styles, or vetos, how does the system work in those instances? NBK: We actually had a bit of trouble regarding leadership, especially on a human level, especially before ECS, funnily enough. We decided to stop the discussion when the tournament started and continue it when the tournament was done, so we probably weren't expecting to win with all of that, but we managed to put everything aside, play, have fun, and win a tournament [laughs] - can't complain! But yeah, we had some troubles, so we are trying to allow our coach to have a bigger voice in the whole group and take ideas from everybody. But the main ideas come from our coach and me, and then ALEX has his input as well on if he doesn't feel comfortable on some map or stuff like that. It is just a balance, but generally, our ideas are not really far off. When he leads his T half, I give him 100% freedom, when I'm doing my CT half I have 100% freedom, and then our coach relays us information if he has something to give us. In general, it feels pretty well when it comes down to Counter-Strike. "on a human level" which means their problem was really serious even months ago So expected, NBKs leaving(or benched)
2019-09-09 13:43
#73
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France bjjthibz 
Yes that's why it's a logical decision, but i'm sad it did not work
2019-09-09 14:07
#75
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
Nah, its ok, NBK will learn from it and prove they were wrong. "But I’m far from done. I’m gonna have to flex tomorrow, find an international team and remind why I am in this position, and then we’ll get back at fighting for the top positions!" i will not be a vitality fan any longer always follow the true NBKing only
2019-09-09 14:16
#101
NBK- | 
China c9mH 
<3, nbk always wins.
2019-09-10 12:44
He wasn't the support player in this lineup, RPK is. He was more supposed to be third star player
2019-09-09 10:36
#52
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
NBK has always been a support in this line-up, he's just done in a more different fashion by filling in when needed, so sometimes he entries, sometimes he lurks, sometimes he's AWPing, it depends on the situation, RPK is mostly an anchor on CT-side and a passive lurker on T side. But the Support is defo NBK.
2019-09-09 10:41
So you're saying that RPK is the third star player with a 0.96 rating in the second best team in the world?
2019-09-09 10:44
#55
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
No, RPK is another role-player, Vitality only have 1 "star" (arguebly 2 if you include Alex) but they mostly have good role-players like NBK and apEX, which is why they win so many games while apEX and NBK don't really put up "star" numbers.
2019-09-09 10:47
#56
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Bulgaria overflowww 
prntscr.com/p3ocjh nt nbk is a bot //closed
2019-09-09 10:53
#57
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Oh wow, some bad form, guess that removes the rest he did this year.
2019-09-09 10:58
#58
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World LeviathaNz 
Of course he is the problem. They kicked him because of his attitude and work ethics that caused a lot of tensions in their camp.
2019-09-09 11:04
#81
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
It was never his "attitude", it was tensions between him and Alex as who would be the main captain, it was never about work ethic.
2019-09-10 09:53
#138
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Unconfirmed, the only thing we know is that Vitality thinks that 2 IGL's doesn't work. And it's really weird if NBK of all people would have a bad work ethic, as that has never been an issue before. Historically he's been known to have a pretty good work-ethic.
2019-09-10 17:04
#140
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World LeviathaNz 
Apparently he had many disagreement on how to work with the team (changing his role, positions, stuff like that) - which in the end is counter-productive as it's a team game. That's why I say they had problem with his work ethic.
2019-09-10 17:01
#143
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
I think that probably falls more under being stubborn, more than a bad work-ethic, but i see what you mean.
2019-09-10 17:05
Afaik NBK has by far the best work ethic in the French scene, especially compared to the notoriously lazy shox, happy etc If they kicked him because he wanted everyone else to work as hard as he does, then Vitality is retarded
2019-09-10 12:57
#111
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World LeviathaNz 
#110 - if you don't know, don't spread lies please.
2019-09-10 14:21
Commitment and attitude have nothing to do with work ethic tho?
2019-09-10 14:58
#115
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World LeviathaNz 
...? So what else would it mean for a csgo player ? Not going to meetings ? Be serious please.
2019-09-10 15:00
Are you stupid m8? Having a good work ethic means you're willing to grind, practice both with the team and alone Attitude issues mean you don't get along with your teammates for whatever reason For example apEx and ALEX are lazy like shox, NBK calls them retards and tells them that they should practice harder like he does. In this scenario NBK has attitude issues but a great work ethic Meanwhile judging from your other posts, you're just a NBK hater, did he steal your gf or some shit?
2019-09-10 15:06
#121
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World LeviathaNz 
Dude did you really explain me what attitude means ? lmao I'm talking about COMMITMENT, come back again when you have something interesting to say please, instead of spreading bullshits. And I'm tired of NBK bullshits also, he's the biggest snake in the scene. Everytime there are dramas and shuffles he's involved and he's puppeting everything. Good riddance if he goes away from the french scene.
2019-09-10 15:09
What the fuck does commitment have to do with work ethic? Commitment just means you don't commit to something, shows you jack shit about work ethic XTQZZZ wants ALEX to be sole IGL but NBK doesn't want to commit to that plan, NBK has commitment issues. But sure kicking literally the most succesful French player by FAR is sure to be good for the French scene lmao. I'd rather have a NBSnake that wants to win, than shox that just wants to have fun with his friends and party
2019-09-10 15:16
#125
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World LeviathaNz 
And yet you fail to realize you proved my point ? Why am I even trying with you... ? Read yourself again, you'll see what I mean. Thanks.
2019-09-10 15:27
They kicked him because there was inner issues between him and the team. He's a cocky cunt. He's the reason why ScreaM was left out of the french shuffle and he destroyed the G2 roster, even which Shox vouched to kick him out. He's a bitch
2019-09-09 11:08
#83
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Shox and NBK both fucked out the French superteam equally much, blaming it purely on NBK is just biased
2019-09-10 10:00
#87
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World LeviathaNz 
NBK is a fucking bitchy snake man. When shox told them he would like to bring Ex6tenZ and SmithZz, NBK didn't want to play in that team because he did not believe in Ex6tenZ being the leader. Later on, when he was building an alternative team with apEX and when G2 announced that they would pick shox lineup, he was interviewed (french itw) and he said that Ex6tenZ was the best IGL he played for, he's a real captain etc etc... And then we learned that he tried to backstab apEX & SmithZz as he wanted a spot in the G2 lineup instead of SmithZz or bodyy. So first he shat on them and tried to join them :D I'll never respect him again. shox has his part of responsability on many stuff, but far less and less impactful than NBK has. He created so many problems, it's unreal, like the one with ScreaM.
2019-09-10 10:17
#109
shox | 
Serbia nzzm22 
+1 nbk is the og two face. Shox is 10x a smaller problem than him
2019-09-10 13:05
#144
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Never read anything about NBK not wanting to play with Ex6tenz (not saying he wanted to) but from what i've seen: Shox was the one who kicked apEX and NBK. hltv.org/news/23088/shox-i-wanted-to-rem..
2019-09-10 17:09
#154
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World LeviathaNz 
Not an HLTV news it was a french interview on VakarM after DreamHack Marseille
2019-09-10 20:10
#61
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Turkey zekicamurcu 
its not about the role its about authority. u cant have 2 head in a single team. just consider when there is a conflict of how to approach the game or a round even. they needed to make a choice and they picked alex because nbk performed poorly this tournament. and you cant just say: hey alex u will be the only igl, nbk you shut up. when u take that decision nbk is going to feel like a shit and he will always see the bad things in a strategy, always gonna look for the missing things. u cant have that in a team. nbk is the one who built this team so he is going to feel this way even if he doesnt want it. he will damage the team in the end.
2019-09-09 11:34
#86
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
True, still poor from them that it didn't work out
2019-09-10 10:10
vitality will have an upgrade no matter who they add. nbk is deadweight, watch some povs and stop spreading bullshit.
2019-09-09 11:38
#63
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
0/8
2019-09-09 12:01
Actually nbk is their second best player in the team. I just dont get it how can you bench nbk ahead of apex or alex. I guess there was other internal problems
2019-09-09 12:01
#65
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Has to be
2019-09-09 12:02
+1 apex has alright aim but bad decision making compared to other players
2019-09-10 14:48
#68
f0rest | 
Greece Graecos 
agree, they made a great 2019 so far, I don't get why they decided to change smth in their roster. Tbh, if someone was supposed to be removed, I'd say RpK.
2019-09-09 13:31
#71
NBK- | 
China Gnikiv 
if someone has to be benched should be apex, his stupidities and bad decisions making ,you cant even count,because of those Vitality lost so many important rounds/maps/matches now I am going to join apex laugh threads club what a two-faced cunt
2019-09-09 14:01
Fully agree
2019-09-09 14:04
rpk is a bot when nobody tells him what he has to do.
2019-09-10 10:58
#94
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-09-10 10:59
#117
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World LeviathaNz 
But when will they/he realize ? Looks like he keeps doing all these shit moves. I kept saying that he was overrated just because he, once in a while, has an incredible peak and destroys everyone. But that's just raw skill, he has no brain in some situations :/
2019-09-10 15:02
#74
JaCkz | 
United Kingdom rickY180 
I wanna see NBK join G2 as support instead of Lucky! Their strats and teamplay haven't been terrible since the addition of Amanek and G2 would be stupid to get rid of shox! shox + amanek + malek have been a very good combination. NBK is a much better CT anchor and has no desire to be star player. He's the best at doing the dirty work. I know there is drama with shox + NBK but surely Nathan has realised now that he is a trash IGL. (Having been benched by G2 and replaced by Alex in Vitality) French CS has always been about explosivity! shox is good at on the fly mid-round plays and they're even better now with amanek's lurking information. If Nathan can just shut up and play the game then adding him to G2 would be amazing! He was good before, before he tried to take over the team. JackZz currently is better than Apex and has better aim. Amanek is 10x better than bodyy It's just the support they're lacking and NBK is the best in the French scene.
2019-09-09 14:13
#80
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
+1
2019-09-10 09:46
#76
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Sri Lanka kvezee 
2019-09-09 14:17
#77
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Portugal draceCS 
The team vitallity is unsuccessful even with the entry of a possible shox,
2019-09-09 14:23
#84
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Shox won't help, calling it now
2019-09-10 10:07
#78
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Kazakhstan Klaudius 
They could've had a personal conflict???
2019-09-09 14:24
#79
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Maybe
2019-09-10 09:46
In French not a single player is the problem. The problem are all players. They are toxic. There are best friends and beef between other best friends or the best friends backstab each other. (apex killed NBKs heart and KennyS shox...) You could say this would be gone if new players come but no. They already started this also watch Zywoo backstab Happy and NBK, Amanek backstab shox and Lucky. This is a national problem. Every nation/region has his thing, but in France you see this delusional toxic behaviour at tier1/2 /3 level and there is no team with exceptions.
2019-09-10 10:56
#91
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
True, it's really sad as both Vitality and G2 could be better without this
2019-09-10 10:59
#90
shox | 
France Sopraba 
This is not about roles but about human conflicts
2019-09-10 10:57
#93
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Yeah that sucks even more, NBK didn't deserve to be kicked like that
2019-09-10 10:58
he hasnt performed well in years
2019-09-10 15:08
#134
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
He's performed completely fine for a year now.
2019-09-10 16:43
he made bot plays that cost a lot of rounds, stats dont matter, watch the games.
2019-09-10 16:45
just at this most recent major you can already justify kicking him after watching all the games vitality played
2019-09-10 16:45
#137
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
Over-reactionary and silly logic, "lets kick x player because he was bad that one time" And it's quite evident that i watch more games than you do as you don't think he's been good for years.
2019-09-10 16:53
i used to think he was good but i dont anymore
2019-09-10 23:16
why french people don't like each other? what you gonna do if your neighbour is toxic?? You can't kick him easily.
2019-09-10 11:01
You don't travel to events with your neighbour do you?
2019-09-10 11:09
are you french or what?
2019-09-10 11:17
#98
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
lol
2019-09-10 12:34
Don't think the decision was based on skill or rating because NBK overall has been 2nd best on the team. Actually I think it was more about the fact that they probably heard shox and Lucky was about to get dropped from G2 and they decided they wanted to go all in for shox. Only problem is NBK will NOT play with shox again whatsoever. I don't think they wanted to replace NBK but when the opportunity to pick up shox appeared they thought it was worth the gamble. I think RpK is in the danger zone of getting dropped next. 30 yo and worst player on the team. There will most likely be better options appearing in the coming weeks.
2019-09-10 12:40
#102
STYKO | 
Norway AdNiB 
True, but if getting Shox means kicking NBK then i don't think it's worth it, especially when you can get KioShiMa for nothing.
2019-09-10 12:47
Well most likely Vitality will try to swap NBK for shox, but can't say if NBK would be willing to go to G2. Kio would most likely replace RpK then because you can't compare shox to anyone. Shox and ZyWoO on the same team would be huge
2019-09-10 13:03
Vitality doesn't underrate support players, they had 4 of them before they kicked NBK.
2019-09-10 12:42
So just because u are not hard entry u are support? logic men))) alex, zywoo also entries alot except for apex men)
2019-09-10 16:22
Everyone on the team besides zywoo is a role player and they clearly don't have enough stars or firepower. "logic men)))"
2019-09-10 18:07
Having 4 support players is too much dude
2019-09-10 12:58
nbk is 25yo kid so am i, dont kick him vitality u stupid
2019-09-10 14:23
sorry i used to believe nbk could be a decent player but he's been a bot for too long, no hope of recovery.
2019-09-10 15:08
Whenever I saw Vitality play it seemed like NBK was setting Zywoo up to get frags all the time on CT side. There's definitely more going on here than stats would suggest
2019-09-10 15:21
??? It was specified that the reason for the kick was internal issues, not his performance in-game...
2019-09-10 16:59
You misinterpreted my comment. I was refuting OP's theory about kicking support players, not defending NBK-'s performance
2019-09-10 19:31
#160
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United States @FyreCS 
+10000000
2019-09-11 06:50
This has to be a bait thread
2019-09-10 17:55
#156
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United States FrothaIPBan 
Support doesn’t exist/isn’t understood
2019-09-10 23:20
#159
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United States @FyreCS 
G2: DavidP KennyS JeyN Jackzz Kioshima/Amanak
2019-09-11 06:49
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