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Liquid will be like Astralis
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North America northamerican 
Astralis: Long standing core that would be promising but couldn't close out tournaments Then they could win tournaments but always choked at majors. Then they won a very close major and dropped off for a bit Then they won 3 majors back to back and became goat Liquid: Long standing core that would be promising but couldn't close out tournaments Then they could win tournaments but always choked at majors. Liquid is one of the youngest teams out of the whole top 20 and they're already #1. It is very likely Liquid will be a top3 team of all time, at least. They could end up being GOAT.
2019-09-11 20:31
no
2019-09-11 20:33
your arguments are like your cs scene
2019-09-11 20:34
#24
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Czech Republic marekkingx 
they are big?
2019-09-11 20:43
Nice one
2019-09-11 20:44
#37
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Germany 0b1_ 
de_stroyed
2019-09-11 20:46
+1111
2019-09-11 20:49
#63
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
Nice one
2019-09-11 20:54
eu users are so desperate for epic roasts lol, you have to stretch for this comeback to even make sense
2019-09-11 21:00
#77
keev | 
Germany _PH1L 
accept the fucking roast man ;)
2019-09-11 21:10
#79
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Czech Republic marekkingx 
lOl we eu users are so desperate for epic roasts :( "your arguments are like your cs scene" definitely is not an epic roast
2019-09-11 21:12
NA so desperate for liquid to be good
2019-09-11 21:21
Left of screen
2019-09-11 21:21
Three prior majors
2019-09-11 21:23
C9 better
2019-09-12 06:52
#86
gatito | 
Spain urd 
hhahaha mad kid confirmed
2019-09-11 21:26
you're r3kted
2019-09-11 21:29
#94
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Russia seized_goat 
Rekt
2019-09-11 21:59
Lol
2019-09-11 22:53
#108
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France Il_padrino 
oof
2019-09-12 08:00
#2
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Sweden fxzo 
Flags check out
2019-09-11 20:33
everything checks out, even cloud9 has more chance than liquid to win a major
2019-09-11 20:34
+1
2019-09-11 20:39
#41
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
+2
2019-09-11 20:48
#58
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Greece NaviGuy 
+3
2019-09-11 20:52
+4
2019-09-11 21:23
+5 I don't hate Liquid, I just like C9.
2019-09-11 22:01
#5
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Brazil hrp_ 
yes
2019-09-11 20:37
stopped reading at your nickname flair and flag
2019-09-11 20:37
stopped reading at your nickname flair and flag
2019-09-11 20:38
Same amount of majors
2019-09-11 20:39
not the same amount of top 20 teams
2019-09-11 20:40
You're right
2019-09-11 20:41
seems like you're reaching for criteria. anyway polish scene is a retirement home while na scene is a bunch of kids. clear who's gonna have more success in the future
2019-09-11 20:41
Don't be so sure about that
2019-09-11 20:42
someone puts a gun to your head. they ask you who is going to win more tournaments soon. liquid or a polish team. you really spend a while thinking about it? lmao. like come on dude. you dont even believe what ur saying
2019-09-11 20:49
Did I say that? Right now, NA is much better than Poland But who knows what's going to happen in one year?
2019-09-11 20:50
ok, same scenario, but in one year. you really think a while about it?
2019-09-11 20:50
Yes What happened after s1mple left Liquid? 2nd at Cologne 2016, 9th-1tth at ELEAGUE Major 2017
2019-09-11 20:52
2016 liquid had fluke major runs and was mediocre elsewhere, even with s1mple. 2018/2019 liquid is a consistent elite team on every tournament. not similar at all, and none of the key players are leaving this team anytime soon.
2019-09-11 20:54
#110
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Germany MoBo 
Liquid is a consistent elite team on every tournament. NiP WAS a consistent elite team on every tournament. NiP IS...? Yeah what is it?
2019-09-12 08:07
naah, u cant be a fucking nostradamus
2019-09-11 20:43
dont have to be nostradamus, just look on left of screen, who is #1, who is missing entirely, lol
2019-09-11 20:49
#10
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Finland Smoonah 
Liquid trash chockers
2019-09-11 20:40
So beating ENCE makes them not chokes? NA BRAIN lul
2019-09-11 20:41
not like ence won this tournament anyway lol :D 2 free t1 tournaments for playing ence in the finals for liquid, sounds like ence are the chokers :D
2019-09-11 20:43
I don't give a fuck about ENCE Just showing that you're a hypocrite
2019-09-11 20:44
how am i a hypocrite? it makes no sense for ence fan to call liquid chokers when liquid has rekt them in many important matches.
2019-09-11 20:45
You're saying that ENCE are choking while Liquid are known to be chokers
2019-09-11 20:45
when liquid plays ence in big grand finals: liquid doesnt choke and rekts them ence gets rekt
2019-09-11 20:46
Again, I don't give a fuck about ENCE
2019-09-11 20:47
ok, i dont care about your feelings. im saying it makes no sense for ence fan to call liquid chokers as liquid rekts them in grand finals.
2019-09-11 20:50
ENCE getting rekt doesn't make liquid non-chokers lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
2019-09-11 20:51
imagine getting rekt in the highest pressure situation by chokers :D your team must be GARBAGE LOL
2019-09-11 20:52
holy shit that link XAXA
2019-09-11 20:43
#46
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
like how?
2019-09-11 20:49
Weird... Magic maybe???
2019-09-11 20:50
#67
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
what is this sorcery?
2019-09-11 20:56
Nice link lmao Chokers vs ence
2019-09-11 21:37
So many mad haters Let's see what happens in a year
2019-09-11 20:40
#50
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
nothing
2019-09-11 20:50
#14
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United States Nohj_ 
+1
2019-09-11 20:41
#19
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Denmark c0re_ 
>liquid >goat Choose one
2019-09-11 20:42
astralis clearly goat now, saying maybe 5 years down the road things maybe diff. im confident liquid will be one of the greatest teams of all time. possible astralis still keeps goat though. respect to your scene!
2019-09-11 20:44
#49
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Denmark c0re_ 
Right back at you! Think its impressive what NA has and is starting to accomplish - I can see what you mean and liquid with their current roster has insanely high individual skill (a bit higher than Astralis imo) but they are lacking the strategic awesomeness which goat Astralis (hallowed be thy name) has because of Glaive and Zonic - if they could achieve the same level of tactical play, it's very likely that they would be alpha goat forever
2019-09-11 20:50
Not impressive NA is starting to accomplished shit, its on time.
2019-09-11 21:38
#29
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Canada rdss 
no
2019-09-11 20:44
#30
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Europe TheBucket 
Liquid definitely has the potential!
2019-09-11 20:44
lul so fucking delusional, liquid is trash /closed
2019-09-11 20:45
#1 team in the world and possibly the youngest ever to be #1. not trash!
2019-09-11 20:45
trash cuz lost to #15
2019-09-11 20:53
how can #1 be trash! your arguments are bad, and you make yourself look like a fool in this public space! cease your buffonery lest you make more of an idiot out of yourself!
2019-09-11 20:55
#1 barely make it to the playoffs ( they pass thru with 3:2) and then lose without a chance in QF vs Astralis(GOAT) Liquid don't deserve to be #1 , thats my point
2019-09-11 21:12
#65
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
Their first only means they won a lot of tournaments, which most were without astralis in it, and half of the teams were meh
2019-09-11 20:55
liquid was clearly better than every team over the summer. astralis wasnt even a legitimate threat.
2019-09-11 20:56
#69
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
Because they weren't playing most of the time, remember that fact?
2019-09-11 20:57
they were playing, just losing to furia in groups lol
2019-09-11 20:57
#76
Zeus | 
Portugal Digassmen 
M O S T, do you not know English?
2019-09-11 21:09
#33
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
No for one simple reason, to stay as long om top as astralis did you need to not drop off after player break. And with how heavily TL relie om their raw skill, this wont happen. All raw skill teams have major ups and downs.
2019-09-11 20:46
not drop off after taking a break. so liquid would have to make sure not to do anything like losing to furia in an elimination bo3 in groups so that they can be goat?
2019-09-11 20:47
#93
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
Your arguments are retarded as fuck. Just because you Astralis didn't play well for a few months doesn't mean they aren't GOAT. Look at what they achieved within the last 2 years. Then compare it to liquid. Liquid is not even close.
2019-09-11 21:54
You: "to stay as long om top as astralis did you need to not drop off after player break" Also you: Astralis is GOAT Astralis did drop off when they took a break. They dropped off harder than Liquid did. Your own argument contradicts itself, because you say to be as good as Astralis you can't drop off after a break, but Astralis themselves have done that.
2019-09-11 22:49
#99
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
Your argument is litterely retarded. You don't have to be the best RIGHT at this second, to be GOAT. Else how would fx Michael Jordan still be considered the GOAT in basket Ball?
2019-09-11 23:09
You just aren't understanding. My argument in the original post: Right now, Astralis is GOAT, but eventually I believe Liquid will be Your argument against that: Liquid can't be GOAT because they fell off after a player break which Astralis didn't do My argument against that: Astralis also fell off after a break. It is normal for teams to have ups and downs.
2019-09-11 23:26
#102
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Denmark Nikolaim88 
Yeah but what i meant was liquid Will keep doing it, while astralis didn't do it in their time og dominance. Problem for liquid is they rely too much om momentum and raw skill. Booth things that will go up and down alot.
2019-09-12 06:31
#40
Indonesia Elce 
Individual skill for each player in liquid better than astralis. But astralis is the best at teamwork and synergy, and this factor make them win on everything, eventhough the ways of astralis plays are boring
2019-09-11 20:48
NAF SRAF
2019-09-11 20:49
OMEGALUL
2019-09-11 20:53
Don't believe it
2019-09-11 20:54
#66
shox | 
India iejesus 
No
2019-09-11 20:55
No they won't They will probably win a major eventually but they will never be the goat by any measure
2019-09-11 20:58
#73
nex | 
Germany Xirif 
no way
2019-09-11 21:02
#74
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Romania kr1tex 
No
2019-09-11 21:03
OMEGALUL, no way liquid is gonna win 5 majors
2019-09-11 21:12
#80
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North America cristian14 
liquid 0 major me 100 majors
2019-09-11 21:23
#85
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Denmark Apeithem 
Liquid roster changes after next major
2019-09-11 21:24
#87
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Finland enzoi 
Liquid cant be like Astralis cuz they cant perform in majors
2019-09-11 21:26
#88
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
I think you may be right about one thing: Liquid hasn´t peaked yet (but they may still need to add a "Magisk" to their team, Stewie2K not the answer). Similarities are no guarantee. I´m quoting Calvin & Hobbes here: "You know how Einstein got bad grades as a Kid? Well, mine are even worse!!"
2019-09-11 21:28
#90
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
Fair enough
2019-09-11 21:30
It's too ez for Astralis to win any major by this point,. Might as well
2019-09-11 22:55
Name, flag and flair check out.
2019-09-11 23:15
why are u such a diehard virgin bro?
2019-09-12 06:36
#104
w1nt3r | 
Other kaiske 
ENCE: Long standing core that would be promising but couldn't close out tournaments Then they could win tournaments but always choked at majors.
2019-09-12 06:40
literal exact opposite, everyone expected tsm to win majors but they lost semis, no one expected anything from ence cuz theyre garbo and they fluke to finals then get rekt
2019-09-12 23:17
bump
2019-09-12 06:42
Liquid got good when they copied Astralis. NA Teams need EU Teams to show them how to be good. That's why NA teams at the top don't work. They don't evolve the meta or the game. They just watch everyone else and try to perfect that. It works for a while until something new comes along.
2019-09-12 06:51
liquid's playstyle is nothing like astralis' nice cope tho
2019-09-12 23:16
#109
rain | 
Lithuania LevelUpp 
Flag checks out
2019-09-12 08:03
stopped reading at title
2019-09-12 08:11
#114
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France Uexo 
when they won't choke in a major maybe
2019-09-12 23:19
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