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dev1ce Vs s1mple
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New Zealand Nikios 
Okay basically let's just get this done Im gonna bring up some stats and stuff and compare what each player did in that year for example year 1 player x did this. Mvp's Device: 14 2 are major Mvps s1mple: 9 HLTV Top 20 Rankings dev1ce: 20th 2014 3rd 2015 3rd 2016 5th 2017 2nd 2018 s1mple: 4th 2016 8th 2017 1st 2018 Hltv 2.0 Rankings s1mple: 2014: 1.12, 2015: (Banned), 2016: 1.15, 2017: 1.20, 2018: 1.34 Device: 2013: 0.90 2014: 1.10, 2015: 1.14, 2016: 1.21, 2017: 1.18, 2018: 1.24 Okay so far its going into devices favour but context is needed, for this we have to look at what they accomplished in their years device: was a source player at the start of his career casual from what im guessing first started he pro career 2013 Year 1: Did jackshit his first year losing to prime Nip and Very games had rating of 0.9 but made playoffs at the first major dreamhack winter 2014 losing to number 1 team verygames with prime shox Year 2: this is were he become decent made semifinals of the first two majors in 2014 and but were looked at as chokers, broke as top player in world very young at the time Year 3: this is were dev1ce really popped off, original he was a hybrid awper awping only when karrigan called for it, this is were they beat prime fnatic multiple times I MEAN MULTIPLE times won multiple championship, a key aspect is he still choked in semi finals especially dev1ce went missing in the playoffs. He is overshadowed by Kennys, Olofmeister and Guardian all these three were at one point best in the world but dev1ce was never seen as number 1 Year 4: realising it now dev1ce actually was in Niko's and s1mple shoes at one time, carrying a shit Astralis through this year but not making enough for them. Had a good impact in the summer through the end of 2016. Still overshadowed by Niko, s1mple and Coldzera as they were at one point best player in the world Year 5: Better then year 4 as he was always getting ratings over 1.10 every tournament and his famous performance on Sk Gaming, stopped them in the quarter finals of PGL Krakow and probably establishing a second Brazilian era and as fallen said "I can't believe one guy stopped us" was always a top 4 player in the world every tournament, still overshadowed by The battle between Niko and Coldzera Year 6: this is were dev1ce was kissing the status of best player in world and won 1 major mvp, broke the record of major Mvps per year but he was never the best because of s1mple. s1mple Year 1: started playing professionally in 2014 and was looked at as a insane prospect most notable achievement was that he beat prime fnatic in dreamhack winter 2014 and made the playoffs of his first major Year 2: He got banned for cheating on a alt lol but still played professionally in tier 2-3 lans but still was looked as a insane young talent Year 3: This is were he was god. s1mple carried liquid to the final of a major, understand for a moment CARRIED THEM SO HARD, he beat number 4 and 3 in world and did the most insane play on cache the double no scope. He beat Fnatic and Navi and could of won but shit the bed for SK Gaming that established a Brazilian era Year 4: this were Navi did really fucking but s1mple still carried them to playoffs and was potentially better then Niko and Coldzera if it weren't for his shit teammates Year 5: Definition of GOAT: s1mple. Now people don't understand why people call s1mple the GOAT, now watch the star series season 4 highlights of s1mple and you'll understand. He did something no individual should of done which carry a team with shit teammates except for electronic to consistent top 3 team. His mechanical skills is the best in csgo history and he broke his old form. This compareble to old school f0rest, markeloff, neo potti. Summary: dev1ce has been a consistent top 5 players in the world but compared to s1mple and Niko on a mechanical level fuck no. Device has always been overshadowed by #1 players like olof, guardian, niko coldzera. S1mple when he came back in 3rd year of pro play carried a tier 2 team to the finals of major that is feat someone still has to accomplish. One key thing s1mple is 3 years younger then device. What this means that eventually s1mple is gonna be the GOAT no matter what cause he mechanical levels is the best ever in csgo and although dev1ce is consistent that will fade away eventually, s1mple still has 3 years. In my opinion simple is goat but device is better in terms of consistency and for that he might be called goat. Tldr: S1mple goat no matter what because he's three years young then device
2019-09-12 15:33
#1
apEX | 
Europe bruuuuuh 
i read that.
2019-09-12 15:34
#12
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New Zealand Nikios 
Bruuuhhhhh
2019-09-12 15:41
IS THAT EVEN QUESTION??? OF COURSE S1MPLE GOD
2019-09-14 04:30
S1mple plays for hltv rank. Dev1ce plays for win. That's the difference. As a result - dev1ce 4 major 2 mvp, s1mple acheived nothing
2019-09-14 07:18
are you fuck you?
2019-09-14 09:08
#180
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New Zealand Nikios 
ain't you bright. OF COURSE EVERY PLAYER TRIES TO WIN YOU ABSOLUTE MONG. s1mple and zywoo doesn't go and think "You know what will be cool right now, fucking going for that sweet 1# HLTV, let's just play for that shit fuck the majors, fuck our teammates fuck everything HLTV IS BEST". dawg you're one dense motherfucker you that right?
2019-09-14 09:23
Haha get rekt russian fanboy
2019-09-14 17:12
#198
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New Zealand Nikios 
Bruh........
2019-09-15 00:48
#35
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Uzbekistan OrangeBoston 
you are so bored[*]
2019-09-12 16:46
unlucky
2019-09-12 21:19
#100
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Russia Ypp1 
mens(((
2019-09-12 22:33
#2
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United States boombl4eatyou 
s1mple is the best +1
2019-09-12 15:34
#32
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Greece NaviGuy 
+1 but device will probably pass him hes incredibly good
2019-09-12 16:39
#75
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
device old
2019-09-12 21:52
#95
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1
2019-09-12 22:17
he 2 years older or 3? Either way he is far from old, only normal nerds that eat candy, snacks, junkfood 24/7, drink beer / soda / energy drink etc feels old at that time, cause you waste your vitality for small treats all day long, cuz you are an emotional wreck. Edit: Also sit on your ass 24/7 as well, no wonder some people feel old quick, the human body not meant for this passive lifestyle most people have these days.
2019-09-12 22:45
this comment came out of nowhere lol I agree tho
2019-09-13 00:45
#94
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2019-09-12 22:17
#98
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Greece NaviGuy 
he will mens hes getting all the majors and mvps((
2019-09-12 22:18
#108
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
plastic fan
2019-09-12 23:12
#199
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Greece NaviGuy 
im a huge fan of s1mple and navi mens)) but device is earning a lot of mvps and he is very consistent if s1mple stays in navi isnt going to win a major anytime soon
2019-09-16 20:03
I dont think so, because Device plays for the team not for fragging like s1mple Device is a safe awper like sunde in 1.6, zonic probably put him to play safe.
2019-09-14 07:05
#200
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Greece NaviGuy 
yes but if he keeps winning majors and mvps he has to be considered the goat
2019-09-16 20:04
#93
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
+1 goat s1mple best of all time <3
2019-09-12 22:17
#101
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Russia Ypp1 
+1
2019-09-12 22:34
+1
2019-09-14 04:31
#3
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Poland POLAND_SHIT 
device and s1mple goats /closed
2019-09-12 15:34
#96
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8 s1mple only goat
2019-09-12 22:17
#107
shox | 
Canada [toast] 
dev1ce_2_nicknames_s1mple_1_nickname
2019-09-12 22:58
s1mple is also known as s0mple though
2019-09-13 00:54
#160
Sakura | 
CIS Ron1E 
And as CSGOD so s1mple has 3 nicknames
2019-09-14 07:50
And as CSBAITER. So 4 nicknames
2019-09-14 09:16
#182
Sakura | 
CIS Ron1E 
Noone dont name him CSBAITER wtf?
2019-09-14 09:25
I did
2019-09-14 18:06
S1mple god dont even compare to lulvice
2019-09-14 04:31
#167
Xyp9x | 
Denmark grindz 
God but not good.
2019-09-14 08:10
#4
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United States blessedExpress 
tldr ; EliGE is going to be top1
2019-09-12 15:34
2019-09-12 15:38
ahahahahahah 32%HS hahahahahha noob even silvers have more hAHAHHAAH
2019-09-12 17:40
0/8 Awper
2019-09-12 21:11
#77
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
its not 0/8 if you correct him bro
2019-09-12 21:52
Fuck :(
2019-09-12 21:58
hahahahhahah ez b8 hahahahahaha
2019-09-13 15:07
#36
device | 
Denmark Androfb 
Try winning a major first
2019-09-12 16:46
>Elige >Top 1 hashahshahshahhaha
2019-09-12 21:42
#89
Zeus | 
Russia V9l1k 
coldzera top 1 in 2019 OMEGALUL
2019-09-12 22:11
Most people will have hltv ranking #1 one time or two times over being the most valuable player ever in csgo, that's have their peanut brain works.
2019-09-12 23:20
Lmao. Nice Joke 1. Dev1ce 2. s1mple 3. ZywOo 4. Magisk 5. electronic 6. EliGE
2019-09-14 07:58
#6
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Germany MackyGee 
tldr
2019-09-12 15:35
you can leave this forum now
2019-09-12 15:37
#9
kennyS | 
France papitsch 
Device is by far > simple Simple is just more skilled and fancy
2019-09-12 15:38
#11
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New Zealand Nikios 
s1mple is gonna be goat no matter what device does because of his age s1mple still has 3 years of his prime
2019-09-12 15:40
maybe in the future, atm he is not, and zywoo is already better
2019-09-12 16:24
#33
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Greece NaviGuy 
no
2019-09-12 16:39
oh yes he is, i'd pick zywoo anytime in a team :)
2019-09-12 18:27
#54
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Greece NaviGuy 
flag checks out
2019-09-12 21:18
#103
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Russia Ypp1 
flag checks out
2019-09-12 22:36
Flag check out
2019-09-12 21:43
I do not think so, you see team play is getting better and better in t1 teams, this makes it much more hard for s1mple and players like him to shine. You prob see what i mean in the future, he was a no show at the major, i don't think i seen him played a very great game since he tried to knife nitr0 on dd2. Device > s1mple as in value to a team any day, let's see if s1mple can manage to be top5 as long as device has, or he will fall off just like coldzera did.
2019-09-12 23:24
#113
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New Zealand Nikios 
Okay that's a pretty counterpoint. we will see
2019-09-12 23:30
#18
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United States boombl4eatyou 
flair and flag checks out
2019-09-12 16:13
#29
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United States tatsumi 
+1
2019-09-12 16:34
+1
2019-09-12 21:41
#79
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
>s1mple is more skilled >device is better what?
2019-09-12 21:54
Yes exactly, s1mple is more skilled and everyone agree with this. But device has lifted way more trophies and despite being boring to watch he is damn good. So device > simple
2019-09-13 08:23
do you understan that trophys is a team achivement?(even in navi 2018 when s1mple was godlike he wont win shit without electronic, device wont win any tournament if he had shit teammates) by your logic pronax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone except astralis players?
2019-09-13 08:33
You miss understand something. Device has been a top player for years + he achieved a lot. First of all, lets wait simple to be as consistent as device.
2019-09-13 09:35
cuz of esl ban s1mple have like 2-3 years less competition, so he will be always 2-3 years behind, so by your logic device will be always more consistent cuz he played more? he didnt achive shit, dignitas tsm astralis achieved a lot, if you compere players you can only compere players(ofc you should consider lvl of competition you cant compere silver mm and major finals), but for example if s1mple play agaist device team in a final and device team wins, but s1mple played way better, he is better player, winning final doesnt mean shit when you compere players, cuz both reached same stage finals)
2019-09-13 11:17
#154
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New Zealand Nikios 
You're actually providing a decent arguement for s1mple, holy fuck!.
2019-09-14 04:45
#10
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Spain elskio 
tldr: device goat
2019-09-12 15:40
#193
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Korea MadnessUsage 
+1
2019-09-14 18:10
S1mple is the best but has shit team, Device has best team.
2019-09-12 15:43
#14
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New Zealand Nikios 
Device has actually carried a team at one point not to s1mple levels but has been in Niko's and s1mples shoes
2019-09-12 15:44
still s1mple, dev2ce
2019-09-12 15:45
2 major mvps? yes
2019-09-12 16:47
Lulvice compared to s1mpel god LMAO
2019-09-14 04:32
#16
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Brazil praxedes 
It's so much fun to watch s1mple play, his individual skills are amazing but his team sucks, dev1ce is more consistent, has better teammates and 4 majors.
2019-09-12 15:59
2019 Big Events s1mple: 90.5% Maps with 1+ rating device: 83.6% Maps with 1+ rating
2019-09-12 16:33
Device played 2 years more than simple Edit: just saw that this is 2019 damn, still both teams had not many big events tho.
2019-09-12 16:38
2019 majors Device 2 (1 mvp) S1mple 0
2019-09-12 16:49
magisk was mvp for katowice but your point still stands!
2019-09-12 16:48
Mens))))
2019-09-12 16:49
device boss mens dont worry))
2019-09-12 16:50
that wasn't the point, he said device is more consistent
2019-09-12 17:13
Look who navi played to get those shit stats lol
2019-09-12 16:29
you can do much with this info and stats, zywoo better then s1mple all time stats and xantares is 0.01 behind s1mple, xaxa. All matches 2018 1. zywoo 2. s1mple 3. blameF 4. yuuurih 5. poison very accurate indeed!
2019-09-12 23:30
who cares this is shit post, politacally-social forum you nerd
2019-09-12 16:15
#63
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New Zealand Nikios 
Bruh. ....
2019-09-12 21:41
+1 good post
2019-09-12 16:15
#22
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Turkey nicemilitant 
device is the best, dont care the rest.
2019-09-12 16:25
#23
JULTN1 | 
Estonia HDTanel 
s1mple cant be the GOAT if he doesnt win a major
2019-09-12 16:26
#68
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New Zealand Nikios 
Things a difference people say Messi is the GOAT but hasn't won a world cup same with s1mple. S1mple will definitely win one in the future
2019-09-12 21:42
+1
2019-09-12 21:44
No one with a brain can compare ronaldo vs messi, messi only played in one team with two of the best ever passers in the world, ronaldo have shown that he can shine in many clubs(also won CL 3 times in a row.) You could see how invisible messi can get while playing for his national team. What i'm saying, we will never know if messi could be a star in other teams or not, ofc it's been more easy to get goals in la liga for him. That both are great players sure, but we will never know if he could ever be as great in another club. I really start to doubt if he will win a major at all at this rate, so many great players coming up in the mix, but also the team work aspect of the game is not great in navi compared to other teams, if they heavily start to focus on this aspect then i eat my own words, this was why VP was a great team imo back in the days, cause of team play.. not because they was better then other team individually.
2019-09-12 23:43
#134
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New Zealand Nikios 
It goes for Ronaldo as well. Im more of a fan for ronaldo then messi
2019-09-13 00:52
ronaldo can shine in many clubs? he played only in a team full of superstars, ser Alex MU was godlike back then, not just 1 ronaldo, RM come on full of superstars in any position(also 3 CL was a fluke helped by a referee if there was VAR no 3 CL in a row) same goes for Juve amazing squad that played in 2015-2018 seasons way better then in 2019 with ronaldo(they fucking lost national cup OMEGALUL) Messi could really chose way better team like MC, with Pep coach and team of full stars, right barca in last year pure dogshit squad no xavi, old iniesta, no real good defender like pyuol, only in neymar days there is some hope in attack but in defence they sucks, ronaldo from like last 15 year never had suck bad defence in a team like messi have, ferdinand and vidic was amazing cb duo, ramos even tho i hate him one of the best defenders, plus varane/pepe is good, now he have chellini bonouchi and de light
2019-09-13 08:46
Errrr messi won 5 champions league and countless league title... but yeah let’s compare him with simple
2019-09-14 08:24
#170
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New Zealand Nikios 
Think of champion league as regular tier 1 tournaments and the world cup as majors
2019-09-14 08:50
Stopped to read at "dreamhack winter 2014 losing to number 1 team verygames".
2019-09-12 16:31
#56
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New Zealand Nikios 
Whoops typo
2019-09-12 21:33
#26
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Europe Wallflower 
who cars? everyone knows dev4ce is much better than s0mple
2019-09-12 16:33
#81
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United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
do they?
2019-09-12 21:55
Nice analysis, I only dislike that you said "brazilian era"
2019-09-12 16:33
Ha!. the bitter truth. hahahahah nobody doubted that back in 2016. but we as individuals can chose to believe in whatever we want in our paticular realities. hehehehe.
2019-09-12 17:22
Device has never been the best player statistically, but he has been the most consistent top player in CS:GO without a doubt. At the same time, he's had the luxury to play in teams that pretty much always have been among the top five. Unlike s1mple, NiKo and other players who are considered to be individually among the best ever.
2019-09-12 16:37
#60
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New Zealand Nikios 
2016 he had to carry Astralis at one point probably mid year during the that time.
2019-09-12 21:38
heaheaheahea, how the hell can you say NiKo didn't have players in faze? Only reason he will never be in a team like astralis is because his toxic as hell, and don't trust in his team... he only think his role matters, i so glad to see his not as great anymore and have not been in a long time... arrogant piece of ****, if he soon in 1year or 2year rebuild new team cause team does not want to play with him anymore or he is 2 good for them ofc, and still csgo is a thing, you can not blame device for this, cause NiKo don't trust his team to be good enough for him, his own choice in life. He was behind device in 2018 when he had a team, stop making excuses! At least say coldzera before NiKo, only thing he does is choke when it matters.
2019-09-12 23:52
I didn't say anything about the players in the team. I said that device has been playing in a team that has been at the top more or less constantly since 2013. NiKo and s1mple hasn't. Couldn't care less about what your personal opinions are about the players.
2019-09-13 09:13
Dev1ce is the best player. People are just retarded and they see only those two retadards (Zywwo, S1mple) who are baiting their teams all the time. Device is not baiting his team, he is the most consistent pro player that ever touched CS:GO and he is also pretty flexible.
2019-09-12 16:42
#61
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New Zealand Nikios 
His consistency is the best but that's the thing he can't be a number 1 player if hasn't reached it yet, it very likely his consistency will fade away in 2 years while s1mple still has 3 years left of his prime
2019-09-12 21:40
More likely s1mple will fell off just like coldzera have done, NiKo been falling off as well, it is so much harder to stay consistent and play at top level for so many years devk1ng has done, instead of being on top for 1-2year.... we will just see, i don't think individually players will shine like they did before cause the team playing is much stronger now then before, this is the reason mibr failed also same with faze same with navi imo, this is also the reason that ence wasn't a fluke cause they had very good team played before they wanted to switch players, ence will be bad team now i think, can't be sure tho. Many new good players and teams on the rise, i start to wonder if s1mple ever will win a major.
2019-09-13 00:00
#83
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Belgium YoGatesKevin 
Delusion at its finest.
2019-09-12 21:58
"Tldr: S1mple goat no matter what because he's three years young then device" 12 iq? how does playing less makes you the goat, you dont know what will happen in the next 3 years
2019-09-12 16:49
#57
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New Zealand Nikios 
I mean as he's gonna become goat no matter what happens. Its very likely that s1mple mechanical skills makes him more of a top player then device keeping his consistency.
2019-09-12 21:35
you can also say device never needed to leave his country to find a team at his skill level. he had a lot easier way than s1mple and still sucks when you compare his ingame skill with s1mple. He had always a team that backs him up. What is easier to become CL winner with Real or with Ajax?
2019-09-12 21:41
To win a CL with Real, but if you don't win a CL with ajax does it really matter? Because by using that logic winning with a worse team than ajax is even harder, should we consider jks in the top1 equation, since he has even worse teammates? What about zywoo? His team is worse than navi, so by your logic he's better than s1mple
2019-09-12 21:54
#85
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New Zealand Nikios 
We don't consider team achievements together cause its defeats the purpose of looking at individual. Zywoo is a GOAT candidate in the future no arguing. No its not that if you look at players doing good on bad teams should count eg jks. There's context you have to add for those rise. Device has carried before in 2016 but never got the team to top 3 status s1mple is the only to have done this
2019-09-12 22:03
In the future? According to your logic Zywoo is better right now. Actually it's not even a debate, there's no way that you could argue that s1mple is better than zywoo in 2019 if you're using any of your parameters. You would have to use some subjective aspect like "mechanical skill" Zywoo has a worse team and he has achieved more than s1mple this year, all while having basically the same rating with more maps
2019-09-12 22:10
#99
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New Zealand Nikios 
Okay first of all those are predictions and are very LIKELY probabilities. Second it doesn't invalidate my arguement. Okay ask every pro player every analyst they will definitely say mechanical skill is a key factor in how good a player is and is a natural talent that people have. Some random 19 year old can't just practice like s1mple and get number 1 player like that. Mechanical skill is not a subjective if you actually have eyes to look at how players play. The arguement is between s1mple and device. We are not looking just 2019. We are looking at feats accomplished. Yes zywoo would beat s1mple this year but that's not the point. Ita very likely zywoo will eventually overtake s1mple and dev1ce one day. These are likely probabilities so if im wrong in a few years props to the player who over took them.
2019-09-12 22:29
Zywoo decide by free will to play in france there aren't so much opportunities international atm, since NIP and Fnatic never try to get a non swe (except Allu) But he has at least the option to start his career with Major winners. CIS Scene was literally trash when s1mple came up. Yes they had a history but most of them was from 1.6 times. If he had stayed in CIS he would be bad right now. He left his home with 18 in a different country, different language and the opposite of Ukraine cuz his option was zero. It isn't about team m8s it is about a team. If you have your whole career a team you can count on it is a lot easier to show consistency at a high level. But if you always have to look for a place and even to play alone to win, it is much harder to get at such high level and to stay there. This is why S1mple skill deserves a lot more respect than device. Even when device can't nothing for his opportunities but he has a lot easier way. and Jks is good he should have another team but then he has to decide to leave and to take the few chances you have. S1mple did it and as a person it helped him a lot.
2019-09-12 22:06
#45
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
form: ELiGE > dev1ce > ZywOo > s1mple 2019: ELiGE > ZywOo > s1mple > dev1ce peak: s1mple > ZywOo > ELiGE > dev1ce
2019-09-12 17:25
#46
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Spain deBurrows 
There's one very important thing that your stats are not saying. dev1ce has always played much more for the benefit of the team than the players who you say overshadowed him in their primes.
2019-09-12 17:33
#48
device | 
Portugal danchou 
simple is better skillwise device has a better team + more consistent
2019-09-12 17:36
Stopped reading at Astralis flair.
2019-09-12 17:38
#59
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New Zealand Nikios 
Bruh.....
2019-09-12 21:37
Why are just including major rating for 2013 he played lans as well Stats were good enough for top 20 he just didnt have a lot of maps
2019-09-12 17:41
#58
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New Zealand Nikios 
You dont wanna include 2013 he did really bad
2019-09-12 21:36
#106
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New Zealand Nikios 
I included just big events but my bad
2019-09-12 22:52
Big events was only the major
2019-09-12 23:15
#117
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New Zealand Nikios 
There were a couple of big events like 5 more
2019-09-12 23:48
For device specifically liquipedia.net/counterstrike/DreamHack/2.. He played 5 big event maps in 2013 the exact amount he played at dhw 2013 And yes you are correct but j dont think it was 5 events though considering nip only played 26 big event maps in 2013
2019-09-13 01:12
#66
shox | 
India iejesus 
Simple is the GOAT doesn't matter what y'll say
2019-09-12 21:42
#70
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New Zealand Nikios 
Im just point out both sides
2019-09-12 21:43
TLDR: ZYWOO the GOAT because he is the youngest
2019-09-12 21:42
#71
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New Zealand Nikios 
He's actually has a chance more then device and s1mple
2019-09-12 21:44
not if he stays playing on shitter french teams
2019-09-12 21:52
#78
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New Zealand Nikios 
Hes 19 bruh give 5 years he'll move
2019-09-12 21:53
#128
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
0/8
2019-09-13 00:20
"Tldr: S1mple goat no matter what because he's three years young then device" This invalidates everything you said before, horrible logic
2019-09-12 21:50
#76
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New Zealand Nikios 
Meant even if Device is the goat for consistency s1mple will have that title because of his mechanical skill I have only seen two players that are good and have never reached number 1 beyond the age if 25 that is fallen and oskar
2019-09-12 21:52
It doesn't work like that, as someone pointed out then zywoo would be the best player in history, since he's younger than s1mple and he's already at his level with a worse team, but no one says that because that's equally stupid, you don't know how s1mple will perform in the future, you don't know if he's gonna win as much as device, cold or olof, you don't know if someone will perform better, hell there could be one guy that isn't even pro yet that will dominate the future scene, it's basically a pointless argument because it's all based on speculations
2019-09-12 21:59
Nice said man!
2019-09-13 00:04
device 4 major 2 major mvps 1 igs s0mple 0 major
2019-09-12 22:07
#90
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New Zealand Nikios 
Ain't you a die hard fan fir device. Jk your're fucking disrespectful of device
2019-09-12 22:12
cool story bro
2019-09-12 22:13
#92
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New Zealand Nikios 
Bruh..... Fake device fan
2019-09-12 22:15
#97
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
s1mple goat in all eSports
2019-09-12 22:18
in all esports, xaxaxa. How the fuck can you compare csgo player to other games, you are his fanboy #1 i give you that. imo csgo is the most easy FPS game i ever played in my life, "s1mple goat in all eSports" thx for the laugh man. xD
2019-09-13 00:06
#125
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
'imo csgo is the most easy FPS game i ever played in my life' again who the fuck are you? no name baiter on hltv? most easy fps game lmao get the fuck out
2019-09-13 00:19
#131
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New Zealand Nikios 
Seems you are fake fan of his.... Lol.
2019-09-13 00:38
#145
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
How fucking dare you call me a fake fan?
2019-09-13 12:08
#147
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New Zealand Nikios 
Couldn't even provide a sentence on why s1mple is goat esports player. No committent to s1mple disrespectful pleb ;). Just "s1mple bEsT eSpOrTs pLayEr"
2019-09-13 23:37
#148
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
are you really that stupid lmao or is this a bait?
2019-09-14 02:39
#149
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New Zealand Nikios 
If I can explain why s1mple is goat then you can you absolute pleb ;). Put some backbone if your his fan fucking disrespectful of you to be his fan. "0/8 yOu'Re a BaITer". Im stupid but you're a special kind of stupid. Bet you didn't even know why s1mple is called goat ;)))))))))))
2019-09-14 04:18
#156
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
So you are admitting that you are stupid?
2019-09-14 06:52
#159
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New Zealand Nikios 
of course fam
2019-09-14 07:47
#179
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
What makes you think i will consider someone's opinion about something who is stupid?
2019-09-14 09:20
#181
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New Zealand Nikios 
Why did you reply? did i hurt your feelings that i called you a fake fan?
2019-09-14 09:24
#183
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
yes you did
2019-09-14 09:26
#184
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New Zealand Nikios 
Then fucking show it then. actually say why he's the goat instead of spouting out "0/8, Lol goat s1mple device_0_top1 s1mple_1_top1,". no offence dude but your actually not helping him getting the status of goat. I got nothing against you
2019-09-14 09:29
#187
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
tldr?
2019-09-14 13:11
device the best. Mr.Consistent
2019-09-12 22:35
#126
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
flair checks out
2019-09-13 00:20
incredibly biased post
2019-09-12 23:23
#115
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New Zealand Nikios 
I should stated that either can be argued for Goat
2019-09-12 23:31
#127
s1mple | 
Europe Sam2k 
everything checks out
2019-09-13 00:20
I have to say that it really annoys me when people hold lucky plays in such high esteem. For example, s1mple's double noscopes, coldzera's jumping awp collat. The chances of them hitting those shots were miniscule, no amount of skill made those shots possible.
2019-09-12 23:49
no scopes in csgo are veeeeeery easy tho, even as much they play i can think awp jump is part of skills as well (ofc on this range was maybe a bit lucky, i sure he did it many times before, or he would not try it.), i seen flusha stream on mirage he jumping with ak and killed so many people with 1 taps mid air, csgo just broken in air, sure it was "luck" he got 2x but they stacked each other, you never know! I could say coldzera was a bit lucky with 2 kills, but that range s1mple on awp is not very hard to hit no scope, but it is crazy impressive cause it was 2v1 and he was crazy under pressure in this situation. I always thinked awp no scope is just as easy in csgo as people mean it is in mw2, i hit crazy no scope all the time even faaaar range, people always say i cheat, but how could i, i always say it is just that easy.
2019-09-13 00:19
it was a falling noscope, then a long distance one. that's lucky. cold's was definitely lucky, not only was he lucky to hit a jumpshot from that far, but also that they lined up for him, if he jumped half a second earlier or later it wouldn't have happened.
2019-09-13 00:25
dev1ce has the luxury of being a really good player, with excellent and very professional team players and org, the mentality/mindset from this team deserves alot of credit. But I think there are many more mechanically gifted and skilled players out there, now and in the past that didnt have the right conditions
2019-09-13 00:10
one package deal, you can't just have one thing and become a great player, NiKo's personality is much of his issue i think, even tho i can't know for sure, but when you push out a great leader like carrygaN and think you are better, so i would assume this is the issue.
2019-09-13 00:22
#132
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New Zealand Nikios 
His nick in by the numbers is "god emperor niko"
2019-09-13 00:41
yeah true I know, thats why they are the best ever. The attitude and approach is the best, even though individually they might not be the best, as a group they are a beast
2019-09-13 00:54
s1mple wont be goat. he might have the highest peak for a player ever, but not goat. zywoo is almost on pr with his skills and hes 3 yrs younger too so dont use the age thing. i can almost guArantee zywoo wins a major before s1 too LOL. yeah s1mple doesnt have the luxury of stepping into a decent team i guess like zywoo did, but thats s1mples fault. at this point you gotta put in achievements which is obv devv as goat. s1mple will go down as the highest peak and nothing else. dude is not even the best on his team atm LOL
2019-09-14 04:53
#162
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New Zealand Nikios 
I did say Zywoo is a candidate for goat in next few years but no Zywoo is mechanical skill is not on par yet keyword "yet". you can't blame s1mple for joining Navi. when he joined they had insane lineup with Seized, Guardian, Edward, Flamie and coach igl. but because of many factors came in making Navi shit you can't blame s1mple. He tried to leave Navi in 2018 but because Navi were cunts they didnt. Again Goat form s1mple on a faze yeah instant era. Peak form dev1ce not as good.
2019-09-14 07:55
putting him with better players wont make him win. s1 has fucking electronic on his team which is better than anyone on faze atm. he needs to find a system that works with him and players he can play off of instead of just baiting. idk if its his play style or zeus as igl that things just dont work on navi, but he'll never be the goat if he keeps losing. oh and btw, dev1ce will 1000% place higher than him in the rankings this year too xD
2019-09-14 16:32
mobile.twitter.com/s1mpleO/status/117287.. o shit LOOL forget what i said. shit could really happen for s1mple
2019-09-14 16:35
>S1mple had cheated back in Counter-Strike 1.6
2019-09-14 07:52
#163
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New Zealand Nikios 
what's the point? I said he cheated anyways on a alt
2019-09-14 07:56
Dosnt matter, all cheaters are faggots
2019-09-14 07:57
#166
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New Zealand Nikios 
okay
2019-09-14 07:59
Listen retards, notail is GOAt In Dota 2 Cus his achievements not skills, there are players with much higher raw skills like FY, yap. But no one considers them to be goat because trophies talks.. wish csgo community got a brain too
2019-09-14 08:27
#172
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New Zealand Nikios 
You can't apply Dota metrics with Csgo metrics wtf is wrong you?. Its like comparing fucking basketball to football and saying Stephen Curry is best at 3 pointers and then apply that to football and say Coutinho is goat cause his longshots are similar to 3 pointers? EVEN THOUGH ONE REQUIRES ARMS AND THE OTHER LEGS. Dota has a completely different metrics to CSGO. The cs community doesnt apply their metrics to your dota.
2019-09-14 09:02
He isnt comparing the games. He just says that goat would be device cuz he actually wins something. And its like that im dota2 also. You can compare this with any other sport like football, where goat is mostly the one who was individual good but also won cups and tournemants
2019-09-14 18:14
guardian number 1
2019-09-14 08:58
#173
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New Zealand Nikios 
wish he had a major before retiring
2019-09-14 09:02
wish he stays on FaZe, i think its the only team would give him a major
2019-09-14 09:04
Faze and major hahahaha omg
2019-09-14 18:11
s1mple top1 in 3 years, device never in 5 years s1mple > device
2019-09-14 09:11
#178
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New Zealand Nikios 
??? the fuck?
2019-09-14 09:18
3 years? 3 years ago was coldzera lol
2019-09-14 18:10
#185
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Georgia Broozman 
S1mple is way better, but both are baiters xd
2019-09-14 09:30
In which way is device a baiter? He literally is entrying for astralis all the time
2019-09-14 18:10
8/8
2019-09-14 13:14
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