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France FRxDuck 
NeL insight guys : twitter.com/neLendirekt/status/117213888.. Give a follow to this guy -> twitter.com/neLendirekt What do you think ? 700k is too much for Shox ?
2019-09-12 15:42
G2 greedy af lost all respect for Carlos
2019-09-12 15:44
#14
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New Zealand Eauor 
I don't blame the guy for wanting to make money :)
2019-09-12 15:48
#19
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France FRxDuck 
They have done the same with NBK and APEX and they didnt play for month... What a waste of talent...
2019-09-12 15:49
#20
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New Zealand Eauor 
yup, but guess thats just how shit works
2019-09-12 15:49
#24
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Germany ToiletShitter 
They got kinguin team, sold for big money to faze and signed titan team after titan shut down. G2 only in csgo for $$$ to invest in other games.
2019-09-12 15:51
#29
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Belgium Axelele 
can't blame em, league team getting bank
2019-09-12 15:56
#65
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Greece hekzy 
There is more money in CS nowadays.
2019-09-12 16:46
Doesn't matter if you don't win anything.
2019-09-12 16:48
#85
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Greece hekzy 
True.
2019-09-12 21:10
>NBK >talent Pick one
2019-09-12 17:16
#79
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France FRxDuck 
KINGMAKER bro
2019-09-12 17:28
Yee, Carlos should turn G2 into a charity organisation and giveaway all his best players for free.
2019-09-12 17:29
Yes 700k in this dead game is a joke for a washed up player imo
2019-09-12 15:44
#8
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Norway k3ron 
everything checks out
2019-09-12 15:46
Cry is free, shox had the best aim on this game but this is not 2015 anymore
2019-09-12 15:47
#12
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Norway k3ron 
why should I cry tho?
2019-09-12 15:47
????? I didnt say you should its just free smh
2019-09-12 15:48
#16
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Mongolia bozgor 
because navi will be a dead team without zeus(((
2019-09-12 15:48
#22
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Norway k3ron 
mens AUGUST TOP-1
2019-09-12 15:50
#18
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Turkey totot 
0/8 you're braindead. 700k is reasonable how much do you think anyone should pay? 50k? an org has to make money as well. Remember that.
2019-09-12 15:49
500k? idk men remember this game is dead, the top 1 wouldtnt cost much more then 1m, shox is good but hes not great anymore, majors 1m only too, valve just doesnt wanna make CSGO big
2019-09-12 15:52
#28
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Turkey totot 
Yeah, aight fam you think this game is dead you're something different. Coldzera is 2mil alone and god knows how much S1mple or Zywoo would cost. Stop with your low-quality time waster bait. Flags and flair check out. 0/8
2019-09-12 15:56
Fuck off, go watch some esports today and see how much they actually make, braindead idiot that keeps supporting valve even with them trying their best to murder the game while keeping Dota competitive
2019-09-12 15:59
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Turkey totot 
Nice insult me because you have no clue what you're talking about. Btw you're supporting valve by being on this website and having steam downloaded. Also, Valve is letting Cs do their own thing Dota needs the support. 0/8 yet again.
2019-09-12 16:00
''tHis gAmE is DeAd'' highest playcount since 2016 almost same viewers number at major peek as LOL worlds best sponsorship in CS history lot of great organizations from other games start to invest in CS but yeah this game is dead cuz media hype is gone and streamers with cancer kids moved to other games lul but yeah i agree about 700k for shox too much at the moment
2019-09-12 16:33
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Netherlands staticNL 
How is 700k reasonable? G2 doesn't want shox anymore and shox hasn't proved that he's able to get back to his old level again. His current form is very mediocre. 700k for a mediocre player that might get to a good level again is definitely not reasonable. Also, every time shox joins a french roster, either him or others get benched after a few months, because of a clash of ideologies or w/e. Doesn't sound like a good financial gamble to me. 700k is normally asked for a super star player in top form and even then it's arguably too expensive.
2019-09-12 16:25
#50
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Turkey totot 
Alright, you're only thinking from a players perspective. Think from an orgs perspective they want to make money so there gonna push limits and try and sell him for as much as possible I guess 700k is the starting price surely someone can negotiate to lower the price.
2019-09-12 16:30
#52
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Netherlands staticNL 
No, I'm thinking from an orgs perspective. I don't think 700k or even 300k would be a worthy investment for an org. It's too big a risk for shox' current form. And as I stated above, Shox has clashed with many French players before, which often resulted in other roster changes (which means he might be benched after 6 months). It's hard to tell what kind of impact shox will have on the team, be it negative or positive. All considered, it's way too much money for an org to gamble on a player.
2019-09-12 16:33
#53
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Turkey totot 
Shox doesn't have to join a French team it could be international. And this raises the player price by a mile which is really really good for the scene. Attracts orgs who have money.
2019-09-12 16:33
#57
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Netherlands staticNL 
Having insanely high buyout prices for mediocre players won't attract new orgs. it's already hard for most orgs to turn a profit, let alone having to pay insane buyouts every time a line-up doesnt work out. It's also bad for the scene when teams can't make the roster moves they want to, because of insane buyouts. Look at MIBR for example: they would've picked up two or more brazilian players ages ago, if it weren't for their buyouts. Which international teams would benefit from shox's current form + can afford the buyout? For shox's asking price, those teams could also get a player that's in much better form than shox. I don't see a team picking up shox any time soon as long as his buyout isn't quartered. Iirc g2 asked 800k for nbk and apex together and they had to sit on the bench for a long time.
2019-09-12 16:40
#58
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Turkey totot 
100thieves? Complexity? even VP are searching for an international line-up and that's exactly my point orgs barely make a profit so that's why G2 is trying to sell Shox for as much as possible.
2019-09-12 16:40
#59
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Netherlands staticNL 
All those orgs can get better players for the same amount of money or less. Also, if orgs are having trouble turning a profit (look at the ones BUYING, not SELLING), they won't throw around 700k loosely for mediocre players. And what is this kind of reasoning? "Im a salesman and it's hard to turn a profit, so ill just up the prices of my garbage 5 fold" - Yes, teams can ofc barter for a lower price, but shox isn't worth anything close to what theyre asking for.
2019-09-12 16:43
#60
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Turkey totot 
IMO shox brings a lot of experience to a team, he seems and is a hard-working dedicated player. Maybe G2 needs the money for something else outside of CS?
2019-09-12 16:44
#64
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Netherlands staticNL 
Shox has shown to not be willing to play with other IGLS for quite some time now. Even now that amanek has taken over the igl role, g2 said they cut shox because of "too many voices in the team". Also, even while not fully igling shox was still trash. If a team were to pick up shox, it would probably have to be as an IGL and shox hasn't achieved shit as an IGL in years. I think that otherwise shox will ask for the igl to be benched after a while, if he doesn't get enough input. G2 are afaik doing very well as an org. Asking way too much money for a player won't solve any money problems if they were to have those, because NO ONE will pay that absurd number. He'll either be benched for months or vitality needs to become very very desperate and I think the buyout would still have to drop before any team would buy him. We'll see whos right though. Orgs have the tendency to lie about what they paid for players as it's good publicity, so we might never know. What we can look out for is how long shox will be benched. My guess: 6 months or longer (or if the buyout goes to 125k, shorter)
2019-09-12 16:50
#68
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Turkey totot 
Well, personally I don't blame G2 for setting such a high price for Shox. An org without a doubt would pay the full amount for him. Continue this conversation when VP, Col and 100thieves have signed there teams and let's see if anyone signs Shox. Btw you're a very smart guy my friend <3 much love.
2019-09-12 16:49
#70
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Netherlands staticNL 
"An org without a doubt would pay the full amount for him" I obviously don't agree (seeing my other comments). But as I said, we'll see. I agree that those teams CAN buy him, but they won't :) <3
2019-09-12 16:51
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United Kingdom OneBinG_ 
700k is too much for anyone, let alone shoxie. You could justify it for s1mple or ZywOo, but not shoxie.
2019-09-12 15:44
#31
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Russia Geograt 
Esport is rising and prices for players also are rising
2019-09-12 15:58
#4
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France LanaRhodes 
yes kio is decent player shox is full overrated player full of ego
2019-09-12 15:45
Did only read the headline because I'm lazy but "favorite" doesn't sound like it's confirmed
2019-09-12 15:45
no one said its confirmed but G2 want 500-700k for shox so I dont think Vita would want to pay that much money for shox with no guarantees it would even work
2019-09-12 15:48
Yes but I only read the thread title because I'm lazy and it said Vita Kio which sounded confirmed
2019-09-12 15:48
Sure read 2345 comments and asking for answer is more fast than read 10 lines Gg giant is detected
2019-09-12 16:02
I didn't ask for an answer
2019-09-12 16:16
double dragon kick back in the head fist bump Double post
2019-09-12 16:03
well obviously that's what loans are for
2019-09-12 16:18
#6
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Switzerland TyRRRR 
Yes 700K is too much, way too much for the ammount of uncertainty and danger shox poses to the roster as a whole / long term. kioShiMa is all around good, free and will not IGL.
2019-09-12 15:45
#7
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Myanmar xdcc 
todays meta everyones expensive as hell. but 700k seems a bit too much for shox considering hes not in some insane form right now. 3 options: pay up, wait for contracts to expire/free agents, sign players from low teams
2019-09-12 15:46
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France Qaze 
when kioshima is free, i think they'll quickly deny G2's offer and yes, 500 to 700K is overpriced as hell for shox
2019-09-12 16:19
#9
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Germany ToiletShitter 
G2 has been doing this shit ever since coming into csgo. Get players for cheap, sell them for high and use the money for other games.
2019-09-12 15:46
#10
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Luxembourg fowkingell 
700k for shox LMAO, maybe for s1mple but even then that's a lot of money for one player.
2019-09-12 15:46
nice
2019-09-12 15:50
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Korea Tzuyu 
people asking so much money for a player of that caliber ruins this scene
2019-09-12 15:51
vitality t2 team
2019-09-12 15:53
#27
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France bjjthibz 
At first i was happy if Kio joined Vita but then the shox rumor went out and i was kinda hyped about it. Now i feel a bit disappointed, i'd go for shox anytime !
2019-09-12 15:55
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Europe bruuuuuh 
Go faire un Leetchi pour payer Shox
2019-09-12 15:57
#32
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France bjjthibz 
Vita => 20M year budget. Me => a bit less than 20M.
2019-09-12 15:58
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Europe bruuuuuh 
pretty rich men)))
2019-09-12 15:59
Mytho noob
2019-09-12 16:06
#39
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France bjjthibz 
mytho : yes noob : yes omg you know me so well =O
2019-09-12 16:11
I can even find where you live right now !!!! I’m a faking bish haxor
2019-09-12 16:13
#45
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France bjjthibz 
lmao nt, but no. Ronaldinho was a great player, but i'm not a PSG fan :)
2019-09-12 16:23
I founded you !!!! Don’t lie!!!!! I have take the control out f your house and I command your cat !! Tonight he gonna shit on your shoes
2019-09-12 16:24
#49
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France bjjthibz 
Sincerely, thank you for making my boring day at work funnier =) And do not control my cat, never ! He's able to control you !
2019-09-12 16:28
:D Too late this cat is already programmed for kill
2019-09-12 16:45
#48
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Kazakhstan Kanjarsan 
Nowadays shox is just average player with ego, idk why vitality wants him so much. In other hand kio is good support player that can play nbk's role and for free
2019-09-12 16:27
nbk's position is a tough one to fill. need a cerebral player, one that can make their ideas work with what alex is setting up. nbk is a first contact sort of player, not necessarily an entry, but figure out where they are and make the first contact on a good timing and deny space. He needs to make plays of his own, but the play must set up the rest of the team, instead of the rest of the team setting up for nbk's play. its a tough spot because it is easy to end up in the wrong spot if you arnt working for your team
2019-09-12 16:30
$700 000 for shox? way too much to pay for a washed up player like himself
2019-09-12 16:35
good, he is less of retard than shox and doesnt tilt as much
2019-09-12 16:35
Kio is prolly one of the most whiny players lmao
2019-09-12 16:44
out of game yes, in game shox is crying 80% of time
2019-09-12 17:00
lmao shox is actually chill as fuck
2019-09-12 17:44
lol no he isnt wtf
2019-09-12 18:42
#63
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Sweden meistr0 
Well. IMO Shox is not needed in Vitality. Kio is 100% a good pick. They already had 2 IGLs, now they want Shox? Like bruh.
2019-09-12 16:45
Should be: -RpK -NBK +Kio +Shox
2019-09-12 16:48
#71
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Sweden meistr0 
Well. The thing is...NBK got kicked because he...well, he isnt needed anymore since ALEX is the IGL. So why add another IGL, lol. Expecting: "But they will use him as rifler" answer, well, yeah maybe, but there is better options, aka Kio for that.
2019-09-12 16:57
but Kio plays the same role as RpK, and shox is way better in terms of raw skill than NBK. If ALEX is IGL then why not just upgrade from RpK too
2019-09-12 17:04
#74
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Sweden meistr0 
? Kio is Support/Entry RpK is just an entry. People give RpK so much sh*t, but he does his job really well.
2019-09-12 17:05
RpK is not entry lmfaooo what are you on??? both of them are hardcore support, and Kio is praised among the community, while RpK is just old and always bottom fragging besides like the last 1-2 months.
2019-09-12 17:12
#77
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Sweden meistr0 
???????????????????????????? Yes he is. "RpK is just old and always bottom fragging" Yes? Because hes 9/10 times the first to enter a site & get traded lol.
2019-09-12 17:17
bro ok sure but RpK moves and plays like Zeus / Pasha. It doesn't work anymore compared to players on Liquid or Astralis
2019-09-12 17:28
#69
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Spain akproxx 
Vitality are not gonna make top 1 Their org got them free and cant buy 1 player Also g2 benched shox who is 27 years old and they want 700k?????? Hallo ocelote wat doink that fucking disgusting
2019-09-12 16:50
Im a big shox fan but that buyout is huge. We know g2 is a big org but man 700 000 is alot. Let shox be free wtf. They dont respect shox at all such a waste. He just started to get back to his form even when he was igling and now he will be without a team for a long time i see...
2019-09-12 17:45
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