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real top 20 so far-
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
1-5 NO ORDER Device, simple ,zywoo , elige , magisk 5-10 NO ORDER electronic, twistzz, NAF, brehze , NiKo 10-15 NO ORDER sergej, dupreeh, jks, xyp9x , allu 15-20 NO ORDER ethan, stewie2k , cerq , kennyS, rain guys who can make it to the top 20 list by the end of the year based on the results fer woxic ropz plus avangar or crazy boys overall i think its still wide open thats why the list is no order on the spots everyone can overcome someone for the events to come , especially after the shuffles and roster changes
2019-09-12 22:29
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#1
Zeus | 
Russia V9l1k 
Jame time to take top 1 in 2019
2019-09-12 22:37
#2
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
1.ELiGE 2.ZywOo 3.s1mple 4.dev1ce 5.Magisk 6.Twistzz 7.electronic 8.NAF 9.sergej 10.Brehze 11.allu 12.dupreeh 13.jks 14.stewie2k 15.KennyS 16.NiKo 17.xyp9x 18.ropz 19.CerQ 20.woxic
2019-09-12 22:36
1. Simple 2. Zywoo 3. Elige 4. Device 5. Magisk 6. Twistzz 7. Electronic 8. Niko 9. Brehze 10. Sergej 11. Naf 12. Xyp9x 13. Jks 14. KennyS 15. Allu 16. Dupreeh 17. Ropz 18. Ethan 19. Cerq 20. Jame
2019-09-12 22:49
#12
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
watch games instead of reading forums and going off history s1 isnt top5 last3 months niko isnt top30 last3 months
2019-09-12 22:52
"real top 20 so far-" 9 months of 2019 and u talk about last 3 months...
2019-09-12 23:38
#37
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
ok so niko was top8 for 2 months top20 for 2 months and maybe top30 last 3-4 months and that puts him at 8 for you? You really dont watch any games..15.allu 8.NiKo
2019-09-12 23:43
Niko was top5 first 3 months overall and is still top10 last 6 months. And Niko is playing a new role in a dysfunctional team and still performs individually. This major was probably the worst tournament he ever played. U clearly didnt watch any games if u really think allu was a better player individually than niko in 2019.
2019-09-13 01:39
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nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
lol
2019-09-13 01:40
#15
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
-1
2019-09-12 22:53
#8
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
its too early man, if liquid doesnt win again , elige wont be no1
2019-09-12 22:49
#11
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
I meant up until now
2019-09-12 22:51
#13
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
yeah i agree on that, but thats why i said no order but i think 1-5 is pretty clear
2019-09-12 22:52
#17
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
yh i agree with ur post but i dont think niko deserves more than 14-18
2019-09-12 23:00
#21
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
if they get good results on the 2 tourneys now with the new squad i see him there, more like a prediction
2019-09-12 23:07
#16
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Malta ciORAN_NT 
Accurate but I'd switch CeRq and jks maybe
2019-09-12 22:54
JKS highger
2019-09-12 22:36
Pretty good maybe jkaem instead of kennys
2019-09-12 22:46
#9
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
i think rng needs one more good performance because besides the majors they were close to irrelevant
2019-09-12 22:50
No.
2019-09-13 00:09
#5
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Stewie isnt in top 20 :)
2019-09-12 22:47
#10
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
he has the stats plus the winnings to be on the list. so far at least
2019-09-12 22:51
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01.. Also EVPs and MVPs mean more than just wins in general. Which is why Xyp9x was so low on top 20 despite winning a fuckton of tournaments :)
2019-09-12 23:17
#32
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
fuck ton of tourneys on 2019? they won the 2 majors and a blast lol
2019-09-12 23:18
#33
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
>talking about Xyp9x placement on a top 20 >talking about 2019 that hasnt even made an official top 20
2019-09-12 23:19
#34
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
you just presented me stats of 2019 plus xyp9x was 13 on 2018 while 4 members of his team were on the top 10 and we was the lowest rated member, while Niko elec simple naf were better than him statwise my point is stewie up until now could make the last spots on the top 20 based of his role winnings and stats
2019-09-12 23:21
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Ok, well i didnt mean that. Also Xyp9x had 2 major wins with an EVP for Katowice after nearly winning MVP. He won way more tournaments, had better ratings throughout the year, had more EVPs, had more meaningful EVPs. Stewie is wayyy below Xyp9x so we've atleast established he shouldnt be above roughly 15 His stats barely justify him in top 20, without the impactful EVPs, and the awful performance in the major i dont see him even clinching 20. It would be very lucky and i dont see Liquid maintaining insane form after this major either.
2019-09-12 23:26
#43
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
`yeah i agree on that, if liquid doesnt win until the end of the year he wont be on the list
2019-09-13 12:49
wtf is Niko doing 6-10 his current form is overrated shit
2019-09-12 22:49
#14
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Malta ciORAN_NT 
Good top but NiKo should be way lower, like between 15-20
2019-09-12 22:53
#22
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
just a prediction because they are tourneys left and he was carrying faze up until now to some extend
2019-09-12 23:08
#24
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Malta ciORAN_NT 
I agree but I have low expectations on the outcome of the year for NiKo and co.
2019-09-12 23:08
#27
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
young blood and motivation is what they are lacking right now i think
2019-09-12 23:09
#18
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Finland Faust_fSt 
NiKo top 10 lmao
2019-09-12 23:01
#19
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Europe JohnMurphy 
-kenny +Smooya -device +JW
2019-09-12 23:04
#23
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
- zywoo +hunden
2019-09-12 23:08
#25
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Europe JohnMurphy 
But im not trolling. JW should be in the top 3 for being fucking LEGEND
2019-09-12 23:09
decent list but except rain really shouldnt be near the top20
2019-09-12 23:06
#26
rain | 
Greece Leoliva 
i see him barely making top 20 if they get good results until the end of the year, depends on the other guys as well
2019-09-12 23:09
i arent think that
2019-09-12 23:16
#28
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World HappyYappy 
great list but you think any of the g2 boys will get on the list? like kennyS top 15?
2019-09-12 23:11
#29
Twistzz | 
Estonia dev2ce 
man really said stewie LMFAO
2019-09-12 23:14
#39
EliGE | 
Brazil hjddenz 
Ethan on the last major was the worst
2019-09-13 00:17
#42
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United States @FyreCS 
Device Elige Zywoo S1mple Serje Twistzz Magisk KennyS Breeze Naf-Fly Xpn3x Dupreeh Niko Cerq Ropz Frozen Ethan Allu Stewie2k Jks Yurrih Nitr0
2019-09-13 01:47
#44
rain | 
Norway Raintop1 
Imagine not having Rain as top 1, confirmed bias
2019-09-13 12:50
#45
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Sweden Kasidro 
Nik0 has not been close to top10 the past months
2019-09-13 12:55
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