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for the rest of 2019, probably 2020 too. they will win their next tournament
2019-09-16 00:24
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#1
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Germany FlameSF2 
but they wont win a major
2019-09-16 00:25
First time i agree with a german in my life
2019-09-16 00:26
#29
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
I also prefer austrians
2019-09-16 01:12
#30
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Canada Shadoww_ 
I am part Austrain and I'd prefer them too.
2019-09-16 01:13
I am part German and I'd prefer them too
2019-09-19 20:42
#78
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Austria I_love_Hltv 
+1
2019-09-18 03:40
-2
2019-09-19 08:37
They can't speak properly though
2019-09-19 12:49
#124
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Ukraine Tw1RLY 
KEK
2019-09-18 19:50
majors aren't relevant any more. same as any other T1 tourny. last major was a total joke. avangar in grand finals LMAO
2019-09-16 00:28
-1
2019-09-16 00:29
#9
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Sweden Akoulad 
of course, you say that L
2019-09-16 00:30
#10
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Germany FlameSF2 
If it would be the case then nobody would play the game
2019-09-16 00:30
#12
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Sri Lanka kvezee 
but avangar > chokiqud
2019-09-16 00:31
Atleast avangar isn't FLUKE like MemCe
2019-09-16 00:32
#23
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United Kingdom Aqishimaaa 
whats fluke about beating both Navi (who at the time were in good form) and Liquid (who are supposedly the best team in the world) in bo3s
2019-09-16 00:58
#170
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United States Hubterbean 
So? Navi is bad that’s been known
2019-09-19 20:34
AXa A Acxa Xaxa
2019-09-16 00:34
Liquid fan: yes they matter
2019-09-16 00:39
#18
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South Africa KGMZ 
burger cope
2019-09-16 00:42
You call Americans Burgers? Ok you are watermellons.
2019-09-16 03:19
#40
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South Africa KGMZ 
I'm not black men but nt
2019-09-16 11:33
Why do you assume I'm calling you black? hmm?
2019-09-16 11:46
#43
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France SpooceCooke 
what are you even trying to do? burgers will be burgers whether they are black white or yellow now go, your McDonald's order is waiting for you
2019-09-16 11:51
McDonald's is probably in every country in the world. You love burgers!
2019-09-16 11:52
#47
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France SpooceCooke 
But they've been popularised by the US and the US are the ones who consume them the most. I like a good burger every now and then, just like most people but you guys take it way too far, hence the the name
2019-09-16 11:55
So you are hating on what people like to eat? Who eats snails? just a bunch of retards. Burger or Snail you pick.
2019-09-16 11:58
#50
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France SpooceCooke 
not hating on anyone. how insecure must you be to take offense on that? call me a snail or anything similar and I won't give a fuck, it's a funny stereotype. When I call you a burger you freak out. how old are you? taking things seriously on a counter strike: global offensive news forum
2019-09-16 12:43
#131
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South Africa nimmaJ 
"You guys take it way too far" "Not hating on anybody" Sick contradiction
2019-09-19 03:28
#141
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France SpooceCooke 
Difference between hate and disdain...
2019-09-19 12:39
#141
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France SpooceCooke 
Difference between hate and disdain...
2019-09-19 12:39
#157
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Either way your shit talking
2019-09-19 18:47
mcdonalds are for poor people the burgers are nasty as fuck, if u want a burger ill grill u up some fire
2019-09-18 02:29
Keep telling yourself that hahahah You think people will look back at 2019 and think of liquid when astralis won both majors? :D
2019-09-16 00:54
Liquid won everything that mattered. NA #1. Even Astralis said they need to beat them 3 more times to be back to Number one which is not going to happen.
2019-09-16 11:54
No matter how hard you try, you won't convince yourself hahaha. Liquid had 4 months as #1.
2019-09-16 22:01
If the new anti-cheat is brought back to the next tournament then it'll easily happen. Can't remember the last time I was so happy watching helpless Liquid unable to toggle. Imagine the first tournament with new anti-cheat and all of the Liquid player's "skill" totally plateau. No "unreal" comeback for Liquid this time
2019-09-18 05:36
Hey man, I believe Avangar beat Liquid
2019-09-16 01:01
#28
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Serbia Ch11co 
Avangar beat liquid lmao
2019-09-16 01:09
#31
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Sweden BRAZlL 
-1
2019-09-16 01:14
-1
2019-09-16 01:14
Then why doesn't other tournaments have stickers/autographs for the players? salty that lulquid is forever #2
2019-09-16 11:38
''majors aren't relevant any more'' NA Brain
2019-09-18 02:16
#83
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United States Nohj_ 
I mean they barely are. They have been losing viewers and relevance since boston 2018. Berlin had the worst viewership of any major since 2014.
2019-09-18 03:56
Viewerwise, it may be more irrelevant than earlier, but skill wise and honorwise, its still by far the biggest in the whole cs world.
2019-09-18 18:30
Ahhaahhaahah ur pathenic
2019-09-18 03:35
#92
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Indonesia Exodd 
Successful b8 m8
2019-09-18 04:44
Liquid played shit because they introduced new Anti-cheat. That's why the teams were so random, AVANGAR not cheating, Astralis, Renegades, Ence not cheating. Much better this way, hate cheating scum like Liquid winning stuff from "insane comebacks" when it's obvious they're just toggling. Glad the tournament organizers did something about it this time.
2019-09-18 05:33
0/8 bad bait
2019-09-18 17:57
You're the only baiter here, it's called facts
2019-09-19 01:02
Speculations*
2019-09-19 12:47
True ;) but let's be real
2019-09-19 12:54
They played way easier opponents in their run. It's an easy explaination.
2019-09-19 13:01
That is true, but the instant headshots that they usually do just weren't there. Also when S1mple did that knife thing and then Nitr0 clutched the round, like wtf was that headshot through car without even seeing the guy. It's shit like that, even in their "era" Liquid was never really dominant, they'd win in overtimes and stuff. Things like this is where cheats can give you that slight upper-hand, and every couple of rounds or so something sus would happen. What you said is definitely true, but they also versed Astralis prior to this event, and in this event they also versed like 2 random teams straight up and lost both. I would say those are the 2 easiest opponents they had versed this year.
2019-09-19 13:07
mate, I'm a Liquid fan. FAT L
2019-09-18 17:59
Blame Vitality for losing then
2019-09-19 08:37
Wouldn’t have been Avanger if liquid beat Avanger
2019-09-20 03:57
Liquid will always be doomed to choke at the worst possible time :(
2019-09-18 02:33
+1
2019-09-19 12:49
Tournament ok but Never again a Major.
2019-09-16 00:25
#4
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Japan NotA_Weeb 
Again?
2019-09-16 00:27
majors dont matter
2019-09-16 00:28
+1
2019-09-16 00:29
lmfao COPE
2019-09-16 00:32
if a team wins everything but the major are they number 2? I think majors are deff over rated, important but over rated
2019-09-18 02:31
no major no era, simple as you can be number 1 for months but when the major starts you gotta show up
2019-09-18 03:20
why? because we think so? if you win everything else ur still number one its not a debate its a fact just because a people think you have to win it it means nothing if you are number 1 the whole year but lose a major ur still number one it still their era( im not talking about liquid to make that clear).
2019-09-18 03:35
what in the fuck are you talking about then. im not saying you cant be top1. any team that wins big 2/3 tournaments in a short period of time will get there. i just said that to have an era you need at least one major, which has been, is and will be the biggest and most important trophy and tournament in the game
2019-09-18 03:41
no im saying if u are completely dominate thru a whole year say win 8/10 tourneys u can still have a era say if u win everything but a major u can still have a era i think fans hyped u majors so much that to alot of people it means everything even ast still lost a tourney or 2 in 2018 we place too much value on majors even know its the biggest tourney of the year it dosent mean someone cant have era its still thej same game vs same opponents in other t1 tourneys. Majors have a flawed bracket system without play off seeds.
2019-09-18 03:46
nah fam you need to win 8/10 AND a major to have an era, otherwise its just a very good year
2019-09-18 04:21
#96
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South Africa nimmaJ 
No that's just your delusional opinion. Show me where fnatic won 8 out of 10 tournaments. Or are you claiming they didnt have an era either?
2019-09-18 04:47
#150
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
They won 2 majors in a row
2019-09-19 12:59
#160
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South Africa nimmaJ 
He said you needed 8/10 tournaments + majors. Now you're moving the goalposts
2019-09-19 18:50
Change your flag. You are not American. Look at your English LOL.
2019-09-19 08:41
say if liquid won the rest of all tourneys in the year it would deff be their era whether people agree or not because they would have be the undisputed #1 the whole year
2019-09-18 03:48
now if we had say only 5 t1 tourneys the whole year it might be diff but we have so many, teams are gonna lose a few regardless if they are the best or not sometimes it just dosent go ur way nobody win everything all year
2019-09-18 03:50
#24
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United Kingdom Aqishimaaa 
keep telling yourself that
2019-09-16 00:59
#33
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Sweden BRAZlL 
what a noob
2019-09-16 01:14
They really are losing their prestige, but it obviously matters to Liquid when they manage to choke so much at the Major.
2019-09-18 18:23
#154
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Denmark TheWiseOwl 
NA BRAIN LUL
2019-09-19 13:09
majors are just s-tiers with a bigger prize pool
2019-09-18 04:43
haha this is the salty american cuck who got so mad when astralis raped their shitty teams
2019-09-16 00:31
ast raped ur shitty team w0o0oo00o0o
2019-09-18 02:32
blastralis chokes at non majors
2019-09-18 04:44
thats why they have more tourney wins than any other team during the last 2 years
2019-09-19 01:03
Change your flair, wtf
2019-09-19 12:49
bio
2019-09-20 03:51
Yea, change your flair to TL?? You know what it is for? To show support for your team
2019-09-20 08:45
unlike liquid who chokes at every major lol
2019-09-19 19:50
Nt trying to catch EU off-guard burger. TL may be #1 rn, but not for long!
2019-09-16 00:33
#19
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United States @FyreCS 
idk... I'm American, and I think they will remain top 3 for rest of year. I hope they win more, but the form shown at the major was absolute garbage, and we deserved to lose it. This major was kinda fluke too tho… look at the bracket wtf? still lost, so I accept it
2019-09-16 00:44
the best liquid aren't beating the astralis we saw at the major
2019-09-16 00:56
oh they definitely would. liquid playing awful was still very close to beating astralis in their bo3
2019-09-16 03:11
lol no they weren't astralis playing awful were very close to beating liquid at cologne though
2019-09-16 03:13
good seeing burgers that aren't delusional every now and then
2019-09-16 22:05
#174
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Imagine thinking a tournament after a player break is harder to win than tournament with 14/16 top 16 teams mid season when everyone is in form
2019-09-19 20:43
#172
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Astralis played great that series, Liquid was just in way better form before the player break took away their momentum. That's why having majors after a player break is silly
2019-09-19 20:41
#54
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United States @FyreCS 
they would if they were in grand slam form are you high? nt fakeflagger
2019-09-18 02:14
astralis in grand slam form>liquid in grand slam form that played a bunch of tournaments with nobody i'm fake flagging because i think liquid suck? lmao
2019-09-18 02:16
#58
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United States @FyreCS 
you said Astralis from Berlin Major wtf? nt Ramz1kBO$$
2019-09-18 02:18
yeah they'd beat grand slam liquid too like i said they almost beat liquid at cologne and they played badly
2019-09-18 02:26
#60
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United States @FyreCS 
you literally brought up 2 different times and eras wtf? Cry is free men Come talk to me when you've gained some brain cells fakeflagger
2019-09-18 02:28
cologne = liquid grand slam era yeah ? bad astralis almost beat them at cologne yeah? bad astralis almost beat liquid grand slam era berlin astralis is better than bad astralis yeah? berlin astralis will beat any liquid jesus you're the reason why people think americans are stupid
2019-09-18 02:34
#97
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United States @FyreCS 
nt anime hunter cry is free fakeflagger
2019-09-18 04:56
#104
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Berlin Astralis wouldnt even beat Cologne Vitality. Hella teams dropped off after the break because they were stale
2019-09-18 05:30
kkkkkkkkk
2019-09-18 06:02
#111
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Right lol? Like it's not a reoccurring problem every time theres a major after a break. That's now Gambit got major remember?
2019-09-18 06:36
ast wasent even prime ast at the major they were just decent well c if the OLD ast comes back I think astr has won so many they just dont feel the pressure like every one else or they just are used to it.
2019-09-18 02:34
#25
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Brazil bernog 
not for so long Vitality will win Malmo and Beijing and become top 1
2019-09-16 01:00
#45
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France SpooceCooke 
one can only hope perhaps Shox will be the cornerstone Vitality always needed (apart from ZywOoOoOo)
2019-09-16 11:53
#51
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Brazil bernog 
+1
2019-09-16 13:00
was hoping kio was gonna be in vit tooo but went to g2 for now
2019-09-18 02:34
#103
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Kio is overrated anyway. Every player on Vitality is better for the team than him
2019-09-18 05:28
#27
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Europe Aspectt1 
I'll be back once they lose the next event :)
2019-09-16 01:03
#34
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Serbia Ch11co 
Man esl one new york, dreamhack masters malmo,blast pro copenhagen,iem bejing,epl finals and blast pro world finals in all those events liquid and astralis will be there do you rly think out of the remaining 6 tier 1 events that astralis wont win atleast 4/6 and even if they win 3/6 and liquid wins 2/6 they will fall to no.2 so liquid needs astralis to early exit,beat them or win atleast 3,4/6 events
2019-09-16 01:15
#37
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Serbia toENDallWARS 
ASTRAILS WILL SMASH THESE LIQUIDS
2019-09-16 03:16
#39
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Indonesia EvilPolish 
#1 in major choking
2019-09-16 03:24
#56
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Brazil xd_noob 
2019-09-18 02:16
#68
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Argentina juanme555RIP 
they're only slightly over 200 points away from Astralis , 1 Astralis win and 1 Liquid low placing and they'll be gone to #3 before even next month.
2019-09-18 02:36
By far the best team in the world LMAO can't even beat a tier3 team, oh yeah it's online completely different to lan (says the brainless) real #1 should keep his numbers in both online and lan.
2019-09-18 02:36
#102
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nope all "the real #1" has to do is win the most tournaments and have the most points which Liquid do. Nt tho
2019-09-18 05:27
What liquid did maybe they will fall from #1 for sure, they're nowhere near to Astralis level. #1 should never lose to tier3 team formed a week ago, if u think this isn't true ur just delusional.
2019-09-18 06:20
#110
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Theres literally exact examples from every #1 team doing it online. Doesnt happen on LAN ever, wonder why. Not even going to entertain the top part. It's just deluded bias. Even device said they have to beat Liquid multiple times or win more trophies to be #1.
2019-09-18 06:28
device just said that cuz the guy is too polite if elige or stewie were on his boots, they would say somethig like best team in history of cs or something like that.
2019-09-18 18:21
#123
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South Africa nimmaJ 
That's complete speculation and very unlikely, he has no reason to be dishonest. Theyve said in interviews before when they feel dominant and said when they felt like they werent #1 anymore. Either way it doesnt change the fact that Liquid are still the #1 team and have had by far the best 2019 of any team.
2019-09-18 19:49
okay boy looks like u haven't watched TL games, they won tournaments? yes, did they look as dominant as astralis or fnatic did when they were #1? hell no, they almost lost to fucking g2 like two or three times, lucky clutches give them the victory, they are good yeah sure, but it's just good cs nothing new, the lack of any decent adversary made them #1. I've been discussing this and have the same point of view since before the major, and guys like u always talk the same about TL being the #1, tbh they are nothing special and NRG, Astralis and probably mouz are better than them u'll see it.
2019-09-18 20:52
#128
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South Africa nimmaJ 
They set the record for most bo3/5s won in a row They won the IGS in 4 straight tournaments. The gap in points from 1st to 2nd at their peak was greater than Astralis ever was. Yes they looked incredibly dominant. And your gonna bring up lucky clutches when your comparing teams with prime flusha and xyp9x? The lack of self-awareness is unreal from you. Maybe those teams will be better in the future however that's pure speculation and for 2019 and currently they are not. Mouz hasnt even beaten a top 5 team in a bo3 yet
2019-09-19 01:44
Liquid played less top 5 teams and less top 10 teams in their "era".
2019-09-19 12:56
#159
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And what's your point?
2019-09-19 18:50
That competition was easier
2019-09-19 19:43
#164
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South Africa nimmaJ 
That's not how that works. Even if they faced less top 5 teams the teams during Liquids era were stronger because Astralis top 10 was super weak. Nt tho
2019-09-19 19:56
Haha, what? That is how it works. You tell me what teams liquid had to beat out of top 5 that is better than the top 5 of 2018.
2019-09-19 20:28
#169
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Hello? Navi was top 4 all last year, look where they are now. Same team, arguably with improvements but Liquid doesnt get the top 5 credit. Top 10 is stacked this year unlike last.
2019-09-19 20:32
#171
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Mouz and Faze top 5 too. Look how many teams have overtaken them.
2019-09-19 20:34
#130
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South Africa nimmaJ 
People said the same thing about Astralis and fnatic not having a decent adversary, do you know why? Because they were so far ahead of every other team that there wasnt one and the same was true with Liquid, no team can match them individually and they're so good at the fundamentals that they dont need to do much more. An era is simply a period in time where the #1 team has a clear advantage over the rest of the field shown thru their tournament success. Liquid had one of the most dominant periods of any team when you look at the metrics. Anyone who denies their era is nothing more than biased and ignorant.
2019-09-19 03:25
They weren't that dominant, I said it before, g2 almost beat them twice, they had for example a poor utility usage. I can bet shox with better teammates could have destroyed TL and their "era". Astralis in the other hand took the game to another level and TL didn't look like astralis or fnatic when they were #1, and yeah they did beat astralis, but in that time Vitality also beat them, u can tell the level the danish had lmao. And wtf do u mean by "metrics", ignorant? everyone is ignorant pal u can't know everything, but for a normal guy like me who have watched quite a lot of cs, and played for a few years I can tell, TL was nothing special, even said it before the major, and look what happen, they got destroyed, and I can bet they will not keep the number one spot for much longer.
2019-09-19 04:48
#134
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Metrics such as the records they set. The ones I posted above. They were dominant and that's all there is to it. You dont set the record for bo3s won in a row without extreme dominance. Not even sure what you're arguing at this point. All you've posted is speculation.
2019-09-19 08:34
Liquid played less top 5 and top 10 teams in their "era", hltv made a pretty good article about.
2019-09-19 12:58
#158
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Less than Astralis the GOAT CS team. More than Fnatic NiP and every other team. Statistically they are the 2nd best counterstrike team ever.
2019-09-19 18:49
#70
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Europe Vallon3 
Burgers back to damage control.
2019-09-18 02:38
#129
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Nt NiP apologist
2019-09-19 01:47
#71
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Australia walmartlol 
I don't see any light for Liquid.
2019-09-18 02:41
SHARKS #1
2019-09-18 02:45
#73
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India Smauxx 
Lost to sharks lmao
2019-09-18 02:55
ThEy LoSt To ShArKs hate when people say this but obviously dont watch NA CS and act as if Sharks is a shit team when they've been playing real well
2019-09-18 03:39
But they lost to sharks. The undisputed top team of the year with "an era" who won the fastest grand slam with "so much competition" lost to a team that's not even in the top 30 because of a 1 month break. That's okay because sharks have been playing well right?
2019-09-18 04:23
AVANGAR losing to shit teams and no one cares Liquid are a joke choke in the majors every time
2019-09-18 04:25
lovely 0-2 against Astralis in champions stage again aye? And no, AVANGAR was already called a fluke, Liquid is meant to be on top this year
2019-09-18 04:27
#94
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Losing is never "okay" it generally means you made more mistakes than the enemy team. That being said them losing a single online bo3 hardly impacts their overall year. Theyve still won the most tournaments, gained the most points, and won the most matches vs other top 10 teams of any roster this year. Astralis lost matches to LDLC last year who were ranked right around where sharks are right now and it didnt affect their era status at all.
2019-09-18 04:46
They lost a map at EPL, invalid point because it wasn't a BO3. Furia is more a valid point, difference is their huge break. People can call Liquid a joke because they took a 2 week break, made Quarters at a major final and then lost to a team that's not in the top 30 without picking a map. It also affects their elo btw because it's a tournament, and Sharks aren't in top 30... Plus it's fun to trigger fans
2019-09-18 05:05
#101
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South Africa nimmaJ 
If you actually think a single bo3 in the group stage of a tournament (that you get multiple chances to qualify in throughout different weeks) is going to have a noticeable effect on their ranking than you are quite delusional. They wont be outranked unless Astralis or someone else very close outplaces them in future Big Events. People can do whatever they want, calling Liquid a joke doesnt change the fact that they're the world #1 right now and have had the best 2019 of any team by far.
2019-09-18 05:24
Obviously they say these things because it makes you seethe so much .
2019-09-18 04:46
#88
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Brazil dr0wning 
lol
2019-09-18 04:37
csgo is a box of surprise, bro. let's see until december
2019-09-18 04:42
+1 The best players already looks different this season compared to the last one
2019-09-18 17:58
I just hope youre baiting.
2019-09-18 04:45
#100
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Europe Nomarosa 
no
2019-09-18 05:12
#99
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India KNOX23 
>loosing to sharks >#1
2019-09-18 05:09
How can they be top 1 world when theyre top 2 NA? C9_1_major_liquid_0_major
2019-09-18 06:24
*top 3 NA
2019-09-18 06:29
#113
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Israel wetz 
Unluko
2019-09-18 06:33
Just like they won against Sharks
2019-09-18 17:58
#118
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Portugal igxxxxxxx 
flag checks out
2019-09-18 18:01
#122
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North America 007DBR9 
Loses to Sharks LMAO
2019-09-18 18:34
#133
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
If they make a bad tournament in New York, they may lose a lot of points
2019-09-19 04:54
#139
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Pakistan d1ckweed 
Hopefully it's Astralis vs Liquid in the Grand Final. xD
2019-09-19 08:47
#155
ALEX | 
France MrWowo 
It would be cool, I am for g2 and astralis, I want to see astralis at the top 1
2019-09-19 13:18
#138
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Denmark OscarGF 
Here we go again.
2019-09-19 08:44
#140
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Denmark TheWiseOwl 
Liquid #1 lmao: they got recked at the major by Astralis 0-2, they lost to sharks a tier 8 SA team in a bo3 0-2 LOL
2019-09-19 08:55
#165
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South Africa nimmaJ 
Still #1
2019-09-19 20:18
#156
Jame | 
Portugal gazav 
Ye, 0 majors this year vs. 2 Majors from Astralis
2019-09-19 13:22
#161
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South Africa nimmaJ 
And if the year ended today theyd still be ranked 1st and would be considered the best team of 2019.
2019-09-19 19:02
#166
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
nah they won't, Astralis will climb back to their rightful spot. Liquid will go back to where they belong.
2019-09-19 20:19
#177
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Australia flashi 
lulw astralis>liquid<sharks
2019-09-20 03:59
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