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Denmark get_on_my_horse 
Hey, lots about abortion. Dunno why HLTV deleted the threads tho? Uhh, maybe bc some folks draw the line from abortion to the holocaust. Crazy comparison. It's so easy to get on your high horse and say "hurrdurr, abortion is murdur, unborn babies has a right to live" - its easy and fucking not in perspective. Do you think a pregnant woman enjoy getting an abortion? Can't you think of anything that might limit the person's ability to take care of a fucking baby? Do you know how much it takes to take care of a baby? (probably not) OK.. Numbnuts... Lets make a few scenarios. 1. Yaaah, you are a happy 15 year old just about to enter freshmen high. You got a bf and you decide to fuck with condom. You got unlucko and women gets knocked up. Now.., have you ever talked with a 15/16 year old girl or boy? They are nowhere near mature enough to get a baby. That can't even take care of them self. You rather give that poor girl a shit life? And yes the baby as well. How is the mother suppossed to be there for the kid, when she is still a messed up teenager? You want her to drop out of High School? 2. You are dirt poor. You are 3 months behind on rent, you have a single room and is starving thru out the most of the month. She gets lucky, she finds a guy who says he wanna be with her, they fuck then he leaves. How is she in any state to take care of a baby? She is not. The most reasonable thing is not to force a baby into these circumstances. 3. You get raped. You become pregnant. You want her to take care of a rapist child who reminds her of the trauma every single time she looks at the baby? 4. You dont want a fucking baby. You got unlucky, but is nowhere near the stages in your life when a baby is appropriate. The father is just a one night stand, you dont even know who he is. You had plans and dreams and want to wait with making babies till you have a partner and time is right. For crying out loud, you had just setup plans for studing 6 months abroad. 5. You are told you might die giving birth, bc whatever. She doesnt want to maybe die. Most abortion have a good fucking reason to be performed. It's not like women enjoy it or use abortion as birth control.... Guys... Either way girls dont give a fuck what you think is moraly correct. They don't give a fuck that you shouts "murder!! Dont kill babies", if she is Not in a situation to become mother she will get rid of that baby either way. Lets not force girls to go to scetchy clinics and get bad performed abortions. Lets inlighten them, tell them about the possible gift a baby can be, but if she have made up her mind, give the woman a controlled and professionel abortion. Another funny thing. You care so damn much about unborn life, but as soon the baby is out you dont give a damn. No money for food? Bad luck. No love and support in your home? Bad luck. No money for school? Bad luck. No chances of medical attention? Bad luck. Hey kiddo, bad fucking luck your mom was a 15 year old whore, it's not our problem. (this last paragraf is mostly directed at the USA, but I have a feeling they are the most pro-life ironically enough) Tl:DR? : stop it, abortion is a blessing in most situations, they are not used for "fun" but bc the situation is not there to foster a fucking baby.
2019-09-16 19:39
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Portugal DrivesYouCrazy 
ADM PLS INSTA BAN FOR THIS KIND OF TOPICS. /CLOSED
2019-09-16 19:40
#110
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Brazil RmM_oo 
youtube.com/watch?v=fmMvsAjCkog Just gonna leave this right here.
2019-09-16 20:14
It's a gaming website, that last i wanna see is far right and far left mongoloids discuss about this shit
2019-09-16 20:23
#126
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Brazil RmM_oo 
Not linkin for you my friend, Im just stayin on top of the chain for the curious and open-minded wandering around.
2019-09-16 20:26
#190
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Brazil Portl4nd 
+999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
2019-09-16 22:23
fuck off to r/GlobalOffensive then you dropkick.
2019-09-27 03:23
#257
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Finland Juzaa 
This was posted to off-topic and is fine in that case.
2019-09-27 12:06
xaxaxaxa
2019-09-27 15:25
As much as I love Carlin and his rants and delivery here he makes some of the jokes based on easily refutable opinions.
2019-09-27 11:40
2Long not gonna read
2019-09-16 19:41
#220
NiKo | 
Europe DRM7MD 
+1
2019-09-27 03:43
#3
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Korea ARBOGA 
Abortion is murder, a baby in your body is NOT your own body. Taking away a life = murder
2019-09-16 19:45
The fetus is not able to survive without the body of the mother though. Are you ok with forced live organ donations for example? If no why not, it's going to save lives and taking away life = murder according to you...
2019-09-16 19:43
Don't be stupid pls.
2019-09-16 19:45
Why not? You expect the same from the mother. If she has to vouch with her body for a life that can't survive without her, why shouldn't other people? It's going to save a shitton of lives!
2019-09-16 19:47
Ok, be stupid then.
2019-09-16 19:49
So you don't have a single argument. Expected from "pro-lifer". Never met one who was actually pro life.
2019-09-16 19:50
Neither do you. Can 3yo baby survive on its own? How is "can't survive on it's own" an argument? And what the fuck it has to do with donating organs?
2019-09-16 19:53
A babies body can survive without the organs of the Mother. A fetus can not. That's a huge difference. You want to force a woman to use her body to keep someone alive who wouldn't be otherwise. If someone needs a liver transplant and you are a match would it be ok to force you to donate half of your liver for a transplant? If no, why not? That other dude can only surive with your bodypart...
2019-09-16 19:56
3yo baby can't survive on it's own either. We should kill all the babies under age of 5? And we're talking about a person's child, not some stranger. You might be a sociopath if you don't see a difference. And woman doesn't lose organs by giving birth.
2019-09-16 19:59
It can survive without the organs/the body of the mother. You just don't get it. Your liver grows back as well. And no it's not a child it's a fucking stranger as well. It's basically a parasite for the first few months.
2019-09-16 20:07
Sociopath spotted. Do you kill puppies when you get bored?
2019-09-16 20:09
It's not my fault you don't get that a fetus is not the same as a child. You also don't want to be forced to put your health in danger to save another life so you are obviously not a pro lifer.
2019-09-16 20:11
I see that you haven't been taught biology in school. Though it's only a part of your problems.
2019-09-16 20:13
You said you don't care if a stranger dies, but an aborted fetus of some woman is a stranger to you too, so why do you care there suddenly?
2019-09-16 20:20
I didn't say I don't care, I said it's a two different things. You don't lose organs from giving birth and there are more options in case of organ donations. You can find volunteers and you can take organs from recently deceased. It's a stupid comparison. Question is, why do you care? Do you get excited from the thought that someone somewhere is being murdered?
2019-09-16 20:37
You are a hypocrite. You want to force women to do things you are not willing to do. Risk bodily harm for someone you don't even know. Why is that? Why do you think you have the right to for woman to have there body used as an incubator but not getting forced to do so yourself? It's obviously not about saving life because you've already told me you wouldn't save a stranger if it meant inconvenience to you...
2019-09-16 20:53
First, I said no such thing. Second, If I were a woman I'd be absolutely willing to give birth. Why do you think you have a right to kill people? And again, why do you care? Is knowing that someone's been murdered somewhere really makes you feel better?
2019-09-16 21:03
There only one china. For real tho, even if you dislike murder as you call it, this is a real issue in this world, even if you were a girl and was willing to give birth... This is not the same for all, people are still dying in maternal death even in the best countries in the world, it is really too much to ask of someone if you ask me. Would be best if people would practice safe sex in the first place, sometimes condoms will not be enough, then we will have a problem. Many people all over the world can't afford to use condoms, for me i care about the woman i am with so i don't want her to use birth control.. no need to take drugs when there is no reason to do it, i know prob the most guys would not care if their gf does the drugs. Really hard when we are guys to truly understand this process of a female, only if we are born again... we could try it out ourselves we would know for sure, before this we can only speculate on this matter.
2019-09-27 03:10
Don't even bother dude, he's clearly retarded or baiting. Look at #194
2019-09-17 02:28
im pro abortion. but this point here, shows that you actually have no understanding about the basis of what we call 'rights'.
2019-09-27 10:47
This is how much I value the "life" of a fetus)))) youtube.com/watch?v=ccFs1CozQ5E
2019-09-16 21:44
holy shit bro thats dark af
2019-09-16 21:45
dank*
2019-09-16 21:45
wank*
2019-09-16 21:45
#151
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Korea ARBOGA 
So in your opinion it's ok to kill people who are on life support? Or too early born babies who can't live outside of the body without serious medical procedures
2019-09-16 21:09
xD
2019-09-16 19:43
+1
2019-09-16 19:44
#35
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Greece hekzy 
Aight, you are in the list for adoptions, you are now going to be one of the people who takes care of these children for the rest of your life since you are so self righteous and knightly.
2019-09-16 19:47
Dude, there's a shitload of people who want to adopt and have to wait for years for a chance.
2019-09-16 19:55
#88
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Greece hekzy 
Aight, but it's still difficult to be poor and pregnant, aka unemployed. So you better support the person as well for the 9 months, otherwise they'll starve, and the person inside will starve. That would double the blood on pro-lifers' hands.
2019-09-16 20:06
True. I'm all for the good government support.
2019-09-16 20:08
#142
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Greece hekzy 
Aight, reasonable
2019-09-16 20:47
Expected from socialist peanut brain
2019-09-16 21:46
Expected from Danish failed school system.
2019-09-16 23:30
Macau)))))
2019-09-16 23:45
Yes, Macau, a more prosperous and developed country than Denmark. You'd know that if your third world socialist country had decent schools.
2019-09-17 00:45
#279
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Singapore Asturobot 
+1
2019-09-28 15:32
If you’re a teen having sex, the guy not wearing a condom needs to be a man and buy her plan b, or she needs to find a way to get it. there is no excuse to wait until a certain amount of time to get an abortion. emergency contraception is a thing, you know. Morning after pills.
2019-09-16 19:41
You know you can get pregnant using condom and birth control pills?
2019-09-16 19:43
Do you know what emergency contraception is?
2019-09-16 19:44
do you know its possible to not know ur pregnant until after a while? I know you spend all ur life on hltv but "notifications" dont exist in real life
2019-09-16 19:45
Pretty sure if a girl is fucking a dude without a condom she’ll know if he cums inside her lol, you really think it’s that big of a secret? Everyone having sex at that age should be educated on emergency contraception. No excuses.
2019-09-16 19:47
do you even know what you were replying to? hint: it was about the possibility of getting pregnant even tho you use condoms or birth control
2019-09-16 19:48
If the condom breaks the girl should know. These are things you tell your partner if you’re having sex. lol.
2019-09-16 19:51
why should they know? a 1mm hole can open up and you can get pregnant from that and there's no way you'll be able to see/notice that also gj ignoring the birth control part
2019-09-16 19:53
You do know the chances of that happening to you are less than 1 percent right? Even more so in that fraction of a percentage if you wear a condom, right? I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it’s extremely rare. Either way, kids should be taught to abstain from sex anyway, but we live in a depraved, morally decadent society in which teens are sexualized and pushed toward degenerate acts at a young age thus destroying the sacredness of sex itself. Blame the diseased culture. Teens should absolutely not be fucking eachother like animals in highschool, but sadly we live in a late-stage liberal society which has been subverted.
2019-09-16 19:59
all I heard is "I can't get laid so I'll complain about society"
2019-09-16 20:00
The straw man of all straw mans “Because you’re not a degenerate like me you’re just mad you can’t take part in my animalistic orgy sessions and blame other groups for pushing it on the masses” Literally 70 iq
2019-09-16 20:03
says the one calling people degenerates for doing the thing humans crave the most xD
2019-09-16 21:04
#90
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Austria WhiteHawk7777 
getting pregnant using a condom is actually not that unlikely
2019-09-16 20:07
Condoms are 85% effective-98% effective depending on how well you use them/know what you’re going, when you pair that with birth control you’re dealing with fractions of fractions of percents.
2019-09-16 20:09
#96
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Austria WhiteHawk7777 
a lot of people use only condoms
2019-09-16 20:10
Still, if it breaks you usually know. It’s on you to pick up emergency contraception. The chances of pregnancy happening with condoms is still low.
2019-09-16 20:11
#167
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Can't argue with retards bro. They will reach for any excuse, no matter how stupid, if it means they don't have to take responsibility and not fk like animals.
2019-09-16 21:45
You look like you're still in the XX century lol
2019-09-17 03:05
If that's the case oh boy that would be a hellowa miracle. Who am I to stop such a tough cookie, the kid might be a superman.
2019-09-16 19:48
Dude... It is the case. Educate yourself.
2019-09-16 19:58
0 answer likewise your sense of humor.
2019-09-16 20:02
What? You think you can't get pregnant while using condoms? You think birth control pills are 100% safe?
2019-09-16 20:04
I don't, hence my reply - if the conception happens despite all the protection then so be it, nothing happens without a reason. You should use a condom anyway if you're promiscuous. And also helps to use that condom properly.
2019-09-16 20:30
Well you can.. Nothing happen without a reason, same could be said for the abortions happing to day.
2019-09-16 20:40
Haha nice sarcasm, really admire it despite our polarised views, I'd do the same in your place gj. ed: but yeah your version tho is for all the wrong reasons
2019-09-16 21:17
Ok ukranian
2019-09-16 21:27
There's big U, learn English, boyo.
2019-09-16 21:30
nah, u dont deserve it
2019-09-16 21:33
That's certainly a compliment comming from someone like you.
2019-09-16 21:37
haha, get off my horse
2019-09-16 21:37
sure keep riding your pony
2019-09-16 21:40
last word guy. reply to this and i let you have it. bye bother from a different mother.
2019-09-16 21:41
haha peace
2019-09-16 21:43
3 and 5 I agree with Also if the child is gonna be disabled
2019-09-16 19:42
But dirt poor is fine?
2019-09-16 19:44
Give away the child
2019-09-16 19:45
#38
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Denmark Weylyn2 
Giving birth to a child isn't easy bro lmao
2019-09-16 19:48
If the mothers life isnt at risk, the child is healthy and if the mother wasnt raped I dont see a reason for abortion
2019-09-16 19:50
It costs to have and hold a child in American hospitals, so there is a reason there but for other places in the world i agree.
2019-09-27 03:31
#6
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Sorry but you are a degenerate if you have sex at age 15 or 16. /Close
2019-09-16 19:42
huh?
2019-09-16 19:44
Having sex at a sexually mature age is degenerate huh?
2019-09-16 19:44
#25
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
16 is not sexually mature people stop growing at age 25 and most people regret losing their virginity at a young age BBC did research on this.
2019-09-16 19:46
People are generally done with puberty much earlier, thus ready to have sex. I think the regret is more tied to who they lose it with, not the age in particular. Drunkenly losing your virginity to a stranger at such a young age could cause the response of regret for sure.
2019-09-16 20:05
#100
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Exactly they regret it because they are young and dumb at age 16 and legal drinking age is higher than age of consent what does that say about a society? Having a stranger penetrate you is way worse than drinking a bottle of beer. If you are 19 or 20 you can make a better decision on who you lose your virginity too.
2019-09-16 20:12
That is true. They are biologically mature to have sex though, can't stop nature.
2019-09-16 20:16
Girls get their menstruation in the early teen (11-14 year) that's when girls a ready to fuck if you ask nature.
2019-09-16 20:42
Well who am i to disobey nature !
2019-09-27 02:27
Go for it, but remember the government set some laws, that doesnt always follow nature. Be aware of possible consequences.
2019-09-27 02:33
Many get long before 11 as well, maybe you wrote most female i don't know.
2019-09-27 03:20
I meant generally. Sure heard of a girl getting pregnant at age 8. Some girls might be 16 before they get their menstruation, who knows.
2019-09-27 10:14
Sorry but that's about the time people lose their virginity.
2019-09-16 19:44
#27
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
normal people are the minority here men(((
2019-09-16 19:46
"normal people" lmfao
2019-09-16 20:35
#55
Stewie2K | 
United States Nohj_ 
0/8
2019-09-16 19:53
#59
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
You completely changed my worldview what a compelling argument built on facts and logic.
2019-09-16 19:53
#65
Stewie2K | 
United States Nohj_ 
how are they degenerates for having consensual sex?
2019-09-16 19:56
#70
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Your brain is not fully developed at 16 and refer to my #25
2019-09-16 19:59
Teenagers should not be promiscuous. It’s the result of a degenerate society pushing teens to “explore themselves”. Sex shouldn’t be at a highschool party where you’re both shitfaced and just fucking like animals. It should happen between two adults who love eachother. We didn’t have problems like this 50 years ago because the culture wasn’t sexualizing children at a young age.
2019-09-16 20:01
Teens can still truly love each other. They dont have to necessarily have sex at parties just for fun(tho they can of they want to).
2019-09-16 20:12
It’s rare when teens *truly* love eachother. I’m not trying to act like a white knight (I despise people like that) But more often than not guys pressure girls into sex, sometimes force lol. I’ve heard of many cases. Friend groups can be extremely pressuring when it comes to sex as well. Girls feel very forced in high school to lose it before college. It’s not a healthy environment in highschool. It’s awful. Trust me.
2019-09-16 20:23
I get what your saying. Theres nothing wrong with the act itself of having sex at 15 or 16. However if it is a result of peer pressure or forced in anyway, then it's wrong.
2019-09-16 20:32
Or you just should be responsible and stop being a horny cunt and wait until you are fully aware of the consequences, how the sex can turn out and the science of it. And of legal age depending on the country. That's my view of it.
2019-09-27 03:33
Many that will find the love of their life at early age, how many pills do you take a day? Not rare at all. Back in the days, they stayed together only cause she was pregnant, that's not love at all, and the child will sense that this is a loveless act either way.... this one thing at least, is not better back in the days. Maybe you are very religious or you was very immature when you was young lad yourself... maybe you thought that you was not ready when you was young, you must understand that we are not the same one guy at 14 can be more mature than another guy at 20 etc. Either way the reason why you think the act is so awful, only one you can blame is those that you says had it better back in the days, cuz these are the parents to the young ones these days, i must say after what you says and your logic, this generation of parents has failed.
2019-09-27 03:36
#7
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Europe JohnMurphy 
pro lifers = retards
2019-09-16 19:42
#111
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Wow you destroyed us with so many fax bro.
2019-09-16 20:14
#10
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Denmark Snakebye 
why buy condoms made in china?
2019-09-16 19:43
just use empty doritos bag, it will work
2019-09-16 19:44
No condom is 100% safe friend.
2019-09-16 19:45
#29
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Denmark Snakebye 
That's why you need to use more than one for safety.
2019-09-16 19:46
2 condoms makes it less safe. Friction with the two condoms layer is making the chance of a breach bigger.
2019-09-16 19:48
#66
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Denmark Snakebye 
1 normal condom 1 anti-friction condom problem solved
2019-09-16 19:57
Ezz, wish life was this ez
2019-09-16 20:00
#13
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United Kingdom VOSSKI 
tbh even if the baby's life is shit at least it has a chance of life
2019-09-16 19:44
But it's not like the women is not gonna have babies. The timing is just not there. Let her wait till time is, both mother and baby is gonna have a better life.
2019-09-16 19:46
#42
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
the mother might be not ready and life will be harsh, better mercy kill a person xD
2019-09-16 19:48
It's not a person? If she gets the abortion early she will piss some blood?
2019-09-16 19:49
#53
COCAINE | 
Mongolia bozgor 
atleast get your arguments together decide you are in favour of ending lives because they would be pityful for everyone due to mental, heath and financial reasons or just go full current year and explain how its just a lump of cells ready to be thrown out into the bin
2019-09-16 19:52
What?? Rephrase pls
2019-09-16 20:00
" Let her wait till time is, both mother and baby is gonna have a better life." true, lets hibernate the baby till the mother decides "ok now im ready"
2019-09-16 20:09
Or just get an abortion and get pregnant later.
2019-09-16 20:14
true, so maybe lets kill you, your mother can make another baby
2019-09-16 20:19
Haha, nah, she is getting old dude. But i like your exceptionel thought proccess. You sure are a hella smart men. No doubt in my mind (Y)
2019-09-16 20:31
thank you
2019-09-16 20:29
#22
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Germany Landwirt 
Agreed
2019-09-16 19:45
When someone has intercourse, they accept the risks involved. When a child is conceived, ableit on accident or on purpose, the child is indeed a human life and deserves to live. It is imoral and evil to take a life from the world for your convenience.
2019-09-16 19:45
You religous?
2019-09-16 19:47
Nope
2019-09-16 19:50
deserves to live? xD
2019-09-16 19:47
Are you implying an innocent child doesn't deserve to live?
2019-09-16 19:51
no one deserves to live
2019-09-16 19:52
good one edgelord
2019-09-16 20:13
thanks toilet cleaner
2019-09-16 21:03
#171
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Czech Republic Noxar 
I hope you're talking about yourself, Mr. Fakeflagger.
2019-09-16 21:47
When you force irresponsible people to be parents then the kid suffers. Human life is a beautiful thing but I'd suggest changing how people view sex and not abortion
2019-09-16 20:09
"When you force irresponsible people to be parents then the kid suffers." ok so lets kill it instead, lets end its potential suffering
2019-09-16 20:13
Or make a school shooter
2019-09-16 20:24
you forgot the part when after a succesful school shooting, the baby miraculously survives and travels to middle east where it becomes indoctrinated with bad islam and blows itself up... and all of it could've been avoided if only it got aborted :(
2019-09-16 20:29
You got too much time
2019-09-16 20:32
true, this took me like several hours to think of and i just waited for someone to write what you wrote so i can post it
2019-09-16 20:37
I'm glad my opinion matters so much to you :) have a good one my dude
2019-09-16 20:41
you too bro!
2019-09-16 20:41
Reported.
2019-09-16 19:46
You are reported for reporting.
2019-09-16 19:47
Everyone who's pro abortion can start with themselves. Lead by example and abort yourself.
2019-09-16 19:47
#43
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
+5 You're so smart man.
2019-09-16 19:48
genius pro-lifer advocating for suicide xD
2019-09-16 19:49
Suicide is better than murder.
2019-09-16 19:50
+1
2019-09-27 15:37
Woaw, see you dont give a fuck about life. Just when it is unborn.
2019-09-16 20:01
I care about people who don't want to die being murdered. If someone wants to kill themselves it's their right. You, on the other hand, are a kind of person who kills for his own convenience.
2019-09-16 20:05
Geez dude, wierd stand. Thanks for sharing tho.
2019-09-16 20:13
yes, unfortunately we live in a world where it's weird whereas your stance isn't and it's only gonna get worse
2019-09-16 20:36
Yes the world is going to shit dude, has for years, deal with it.
2019-09-16 20:49
#57
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
Such a long post, but it's a murder.
2019-09-16 19:53
Tldr, is there. But you call it what you want. Maybe time will give you perspective
2019-09-16 19:54
#64
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
There are literally tons of posts around the internet where women say they had an abortion because they knew they would have a boy. It's used as a sick tool. There are many other options besides abortion, the best one is common sense.
2019-09-16 19:56
Those women are screwed, but the dont represent the majority.
2019-09-16 20:02
#84
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
It's a minority yes, but still, there are women who abort any baby. Like I said there are pretty easy ways to avoid getting pregnant, the best one is common sense.
2019-09-16 20:04
Commen sense is using a condom. But you can get pregnant using a condom.
2019-09-16 20:11
#103
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
That's why there are pills. Also, at least here they teach us that making sure to avoid pregnancy is two condoms, one on top of each other and pill. Women should take some responsibility.
2019-09-16 20:12
No, 2 condoms is not safer! Quite the opposite. Friction between the two layers will make it more likely to break. (talking commen sense :pp) I dont know, birth control pills are not 100% and they fuck big time with the girls body. I can understand if she rather not be on the pill. I know i wouldnt.
2019-09-16 20:29
#266
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
Women are just as responsible as men to avoid pregnancy there are more than just pills and condoms, like birth control ring and those "skin patches" I believe they are called that are vaccinated under the skin and are effective for couple years. Then they don't have to take the pill.
2019-09-27 15:26
You are also evil if you force your woman to take pills at your convenience, not every women in this world will respond good to this drug. Again i hear it is all about you, we are not the one that are carrying a child... The women should have the most say in this imo.
2019-09-27 03:47
#262
Hobbit | 
Iran Tajik! 
I never said she should take the pill by force, but it's her decision just like the fact that she wants to take an abortion. It's not about us, just like it's not just about the women it's a third person which get killed with no chances given. Also, there are those "things" (I don't know remember it's correct name) That can be vaccinated under women's skin and are more effective than pill and last for a couple of years.
2019-09-27 15:23
#61
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
+5 finally a sane person.
2019-09-16 19:54
If you don't want to have a baby, use protection, it's ez 😎👍
2019-09-16 20:01
You can get pregnant using condoms, and birth control pills. You can actually get pregnant using any birth control.
2019-09-16 20:03
Of course you can, but most abortions aren't because of that but rather because people are stupid
2019-09-16 20:05
Well, i wouldnt know, but likely yes. But those doing the reasonable thing (using protection) may they have an abortion?
2019-09-16 20:12
I'm not against abortion, but people still should value the life and don't just fuck without protection because they know they can abort anyways
2019-09-16 20:13
I doubt this is the strategy. There are risks in getting an abortion as well.
2019-09-16 20:15
But do people really think about the risks when they're horny and just wanna fuck? I don't think they do, especially when they're drunk. I think they just don't care about protection since the chances are low and abortion is readily available Not everybody of course, but a section of people surely thinks that way
2019-09-16 20:19
I think most would ude condoms.. Yes? There is STDs as well and they are not that rare.
2019-09-16 20:22
#104
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Myanmar aligholiz77 
Smart guy.
2019-09-16 20:12
#81
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Reunion 1iquser 
if you don't want a baby, but still fuck w/o protection, you don't deserve abortion rights
2019-09-16 20:03
#82
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India isatisfy69 
Actually I agree with you and abortion is not murder if abortion actually helps you in a case where you can't take care of baby (financially too) then abortion is the best . In the end it depends of the whole situation .
2019-09-16 20:03
#116
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United States SisterKisser 
the baby could grow up poor - kill it!
2019-09-16 20:18
the baby will be unwanted and therefore will suffer - kill it!
2019-09-16 20:23
#115
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Bulgaria goatse 
ofc there should be abortion are you stupid? who cars for fetus?
2019-09-16 20:18
answer to all those questions, adoption
2019-09-16 20:27
Get job have 10 kids
2019-09-16 20:51
"abortion is a blessing" -savage leftist 2019
2019-09-16 20:52
knew it would provoke some.
2019-09-16 21:36
you are sick in the head
2019-09-16 23:28
Nope dude, really not. I bet ya im more sane than most of HLTV users. That we are able to perform safe abortions is a blessing. Human life isn't at all that important or special. Stay safe
2019-09-17 00:46
now ur going into denial, the signs already showing
2019-09-17 01:34
Ok buddy
2019-09-17 08:15
Getting raped, bad defects, and if it is life threatening then fine The rest are stupid take responsibility of your own actions.
2019-09-16 20:58
got pregnant using condom what now?
2019-09-16 21:39
#173
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Emergency contraception, that and not fking like an animal. You know the risks associated with sex, take responsibility.
2019-09-16 21:48
You don't always know if the condom breaks.
2019-09-16 21:51
#178
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Are you blind, can't read, retarded, or all 3?
2019-09-16 21:51
you can only take Emergency contraception if you know you got sperm up your virgina? no????
2019-09-16 21:52
#183
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Czech Republic Noxar 
You would most likely notice right away during/shortly after the act, or the woman later on. Nonetheless, second point still stands: Take responsibility. You don't get to end a life just because you can't control your urges or ignore risks involved with sex.
2019-09-16 21:54
Well. Its is weird you say "you don't get to end a life". Yes, yes you do get to get an abortion these days.
2019-09-16 21:56
#185
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Good job smartass, I'm saying it's wrong and shouldn't be a thing. I know what the status quo is.
2019-09-16 21:57
Control your urges... Risks involved... What you want, no more sexy time for the fun of it? only to reproduce?
2019-09-16 21:59
I know what it is.... You dont know you can get pregnant using condom (also without realizing it broke) so you are the numb one. gj
2019-09-16 21:54
everyone can have a different opinion on it, cant they? im pro abortion but you have to look at every single case, you cant generalize in this matter
2019-09-16 21:42
well i guess. But if you dont like abortions, don't get one when you screw up and dont try and force it upon others to keep their shit. There has been instances of people shaming pregnant woman outside of abortion clinics.
2019-09-16 21:46
its the right mindset to let everyone choose i think e.g. when you encounter a slut getting pregnant 3 times in a row and aborting it every time bc "too lazy to prevent" or "just happened" ; thats where things get interesting
2019-09-16 21:48
Well, they are the minority.. And yes i agree, this is bad. But stupid people is hard to avoid. someone will screw up a perfectly fine working system.
2019-09-16 21:50
very true your opinion is well based i see, have a nice evening
2019-09-16 21:50
you too men
2019-09-16 21:51
#174
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Czech Republic Noxar 
Here comes Mr. "Guys plz don't fight :CCC All standpoints are valid, even if they are exclusive!"
2019-09-16 21:49
Pro Lifers: Killing unborn children is wrong Also pro lifers: Death penalty is morally correct
2019-09-16 21:59
This is very spot on. gj mens. Many of them also dislike taxes and social security. So when the kid is born and is fucked over by the situation its born into, its just bad luck mother fucker.
2019-09-16 22:01
Ya they would rather let a child suffer then let a person sit in jail suffer. Sound mentality.
2019-09-16 22:16
+1
2019-09-27 03:50
My biggest problem with abortion is the fact that women can force men to pay child support for a child the man didn't want, for 18 years. But a man forcing a woman to give birth when she doesn't want to is suddenly too much. (Obviously neither should be allowed in case some dumbass interprets this as me saying both should be allowed)
2019-09-17 03:37
Yea, i see the dilemma. But unfortunately it is the women who goes thru 9 months of body change. But when the baby is out it should be more equal. Women not winning costudy cases only bc she is the mother.
2019-09-17 08:22
there have been enough cases of men getting fucked in divorce/child pay for me to care less and less about the people who continually put themselves in those positions, even though its unfair
2019-09-27 02:37
What positions? What u mean exactly?
2019-09-27 02:39
getting someone pregnant/getting married
2019-09-27 02:46
Don't see how this correlate with abortions? U want male to be able to decide if female has to get an abortion?
2019-09-27 02:49
#207
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United States tatsumi 
not many people disagree with abortion on 3 and 5
2019-09-27 02:48
But dont see how it matters. If you say it's murder. Then it's still Murder and the fetus is innocent, doesnt matter how it got there.
2019-09-27 10:20
#208
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United States tatsumi 
if you don’t want a baby don’t have sex
2019-09-27 02:48
Ez fix right
2019-09-27 02:49
+1, stupid women why cant they think of this
2019-09-27 03:53
anyone thats anti abortion in 2019 is a total religious cuck
2019-09-27 03:25
Don't think all of them are religous tho.
2019-09-27 10:20
#215
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United States NotASmurph 
Imagine thinking you can convince people on the internet Look bud, these “scenarios” designed to epically destroy all conservitards are a waste of time and can be answered by pro-lifers easily. they hear this shit constantly Stop wasting your time on the internet and do something that will actually help whatever the fuck you care about
2019-09-27 03:29
It's just as much for the fun of it men and it's good to discuss
2019-09-27 10:22
#272
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United States NotASmurph 
no, it isn't. you're just going to be pissed off or make someone else pissed off because of how fucked up they are or whatever. thinking that you can win this argument or have a nice discussion is braindead. its the internet- civil discussions are impossibly, so if that's your goal its not gonna happen
2019-09-28 15:13
#219
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Argentina cheapdeed 
worst bait i ever read
2019-09-27 03:40
That was cheap
2019-09-27 10:22
#224
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Europe INFO_WARRIOR 
In Florida poll conducted about women who aborted, 92% had no specific reason, 6% said economic problems and 2% was rape and child disability, so as we can see 98% definitely aborted without concrete reasons and mere excuses or no excuses at all just to avoid responsibility. We cant blame women only tho, i definitely blame men more for running away, forcing women to abort and allowing the world to become a morally decadent place. 1. If she is old enough to know what is sex then she is old enough to live with consequences, funny how she is "adult" when it comes to sex but shes a "kid" when she gets pregnant, in perfect world there should be no sexualization at that age unlike we see now in these great progressive times, those cases happened even before but government or families would jump in and force the boy to marry her if he didnt want to stick with her, even in these times its not end of the world, tons of cases where single moms finished school and colleges with kids and it made them happier, its not kid that stops them, its their motivation and drive. 2.Promiscuity, irresponsibility and no awareness. You dont offer pussy to some guy that promised you this or that in short period of time. Besides our ancestors were dirt poor and raised many kids, people can definitely raise one now in 21st century even if "poor". welfare also exists. 3.Rape is a tough one, most of rape cases today are false and happen in bed of two consenting people, women dont get raped in front of whole world, they get raped when they go alone in alleyways, clubs at night etc, world is not Captain Marvel so as a woman you need to be careful where you go, with whom you go and why you go. In countries where abortion is illegal unless its rape or disability many women or partners simply lie that they were raped to have abortions, it is a trauma, but abortion is also a trauma and your happy cartoons, media and politicians that encourage abortions would never say that many women battle depression and forever change afterwards, why not give baby for adoption to avoid second trauma that is abortion? You also use cases that are less than 1% to paint the whole picture about abortion being good, bad argument. 4. Again promiscuity, irresponsibility, pointless sex and degeneration of values and views on family, you dont get to be i love motherhood and i want kids but i wanna kill this one now cause im not ready to settle because i wanna have pointless sex, enjoy alcohol, parties and pursue career of carrying binders and doing powerpoint on computer in some office, if you have any brain cells then you dont need one night stand, sex should be connection, love and affection with person you love, not primal animalistic pursuit of dopamine, many women today want to ride cock carousel and then when their infertility declines and they get ugly in 30s they want to have babies with some beta who will provide for her 5. Again less than 0.5% of situations trying to depict the narrative about all abortions, but i support this, if mother is in danger and you have to choose one life then abortion should be an option, and lets be real you support all abortions so no reason to put these last two in to collect pity points. 6. This talking point has no sense. Pro Life movement and actively adopts babies and kids, them and Churches collect money and sends supplies and packages to poor kids and families, they recently donated quarter of million to illegal Mexican kids. Today states not let devout Christians to adopt and they rather let kids to be in foster care or be given to Trans or Gay parents where they are getting abused, neglected, manipulated and sexually assaulted. Still if you ask those kids in foster care i really wonder if they were prefer to be alive or dead. And do you now understand why there were set norms for thousands of years about virginity and no sex before marriage, strong family unit and conservative society, now enjoy sexual liberation, objectification of women, and degeneration where you fuck like rabbits and kill fetuses in wombs because you want to escape from responsibility and that is celebrated as brave, meanwhile you cry and fake outrage when some woman secretly gives birth to infant and immediately kills him. you avoid reality and consequences and continue having sex without condoms, ione thing you people will never understand is that sex is for reproduction, i never saw a person being abstinent getting pregnant, if you enjoy sex for dopamine rush then you know what are you entering into, so dont rationalize and act as a victim, if people were mandatory shown how barbaric abortion looks and how aborted babies (embryo, fetus whatever you call it) look and also briefly move like humans inside amnion when taken out of womb maybe people would be more careful and learn that sex has consequences, baby is not a clump of cells in womb, its alive at conception with its own unique dna and genetic code that will set his hair color, eye color, gender, etc, but no people prefer lies, hedonism, nihilism and commodity now while there are third worlders pouring in and making 10 babies while you debate over abortion and feminism, you people see babies as investment and burden not as your own flesh and product of love, it doesnt matter abortion will be outlawed regardless when the population keeps falling off because uterus is not a female issue, thats illusion, its the issue of men and state too, the uterus is future and mots important thing in world, it creates life, so it will never be really in a hand of woman, but by state. Its not woman who has a right because man gave her that right and equality and it will take it away when they want and woman cant do anything because woman is a side kick on this planet no matter how much feminist indoctrination you swallow about them being strong and empowering, i dont hate or judge people who abort (i hate men that left or forced women to do that), nor i care what you do, Abortion is merely a mans fault for letting it come to this point we are at today, but my opinion still stands that its murder and nothing but farce and short term "solution" that will haunt you for life and no matter how much you screech how its your human right and how you dont care about morals, no matter how much radical stances you took, you didnt abort that child, you just transferred it from a womb into your mind and nothing can fill that void, no rationalizations and excuses exist unless in terms of life threatening and rape, baby doesnt shove itself into a stomach. its not a blessing its a cheap murder and those fetuses get sold to big pharma, labs, food and comsetic surgery to be dissected and experimented on, feminism killed 750 million women in last 40 years trough abortion, you are forcefully ending pregnancy and are shutting someones human right to live and future, i know that you dont care but im telling it how it is, enjoy while it lasts as a brief period in human history, this state of world and "values" will eventually be gone just like history showed us many times already, and natural law will instill itself again.
2019-09-27 04:01
brain
2019-09-27 03:53
I believe you didnt get abortion earlier, bc religion had a bigger impact - and the technology to perform safe abortions wasnt there. I dont know where you got you 92% for no specific reasons. It sounds like a made up statistics. I read one and it's said 78% or some shiat was economical. I see your points and the 5 scenarios is just examples. If you believe it is murder getting an abortion, it shouldnt matter how you got pregnant, it would still be murder, the fetus is innocent in all cases. I believe you should be able to get an abortion for lesser. Sorry, i just dont see how human life is this precious. I really dont.
2019-09-27 10:34
#273
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United States NotASmurph 
well then something in your biology is fucked up. we're designed as humans to see life as worthy- that's how our species lives on. lmao mens trying to be edgy by hating babies lul
2019-09-28 15:14
What? Haha, ok big life loving american. You wanna pay more taxes to support the less fortunate ones in your society?
2019-09-28 15:24
#275
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United States NotASmurph 
nt mens, trying to assume just because I'm American that I hate the poor or something. you're just fucking braindead
2019-09-28 15:25
Ok, im the brain dead. Have fun
2019-09-28 15:26
All of these are fringe cases and there are easy things to fix them like adoption
2019-09-27 10:20
It's to the people calling it murder. If you believe it is murder, it doesnt matter how the woman got pregnant. The fetus will be innocent in all cases. I believe you should be able to abort for lesser. I don't get this glorification of human life. We are not semi gods, more like a parasites. Yeah, it's not like the world is in need of more babies to adopt. Approxemately half of Kids up for adoption gets a new family during the year. The avarage waiting time for a kid to be adopted is 7.7 years.
2019-09-27 10:40
I don't think it's murder, I'm actually fine with abortion. What I don't like is the reckless behaviour of people who just don't care for protection anymore because they can abort anyways
2019-09-27 10:42
Yeah, i think free abortion and reckless behavior goes hand in hand. We can't stop stupid people, but I guess, better their offspring is eliminated than those ppl are flooding the world with their genes.
2019-09-27 11:01
fair enough, I agree with that
2019-09-27 11:04
#238
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Norway Warerks 
if i "knock" up my bf it wont to anything since he's also a guy. gay danes as usual
2019-09-27 10:50
Oh look, a norwegian who wants to contribute with a comment that matches his intelligence. Enjoy your black gold, that sustains your high living standard and destroys the world.
2019-09-27 11:04
#244
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Norway Warerks 
ty i will enjoy it in my mansion
2019-09-27 11:24
Sure kiddo. You are not blessed with a big brain - but lucko you, you popped out of a dumb whore in norway and not syria.
2019-09-27 11:26
#246
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Norway Warerks 
ok nt but you support mass murdering and for 12 year olds to have sex
2019-09-27 11:27
Hahaha, ohh my sweet child. Mass murder and abortion is not the same, to my knowledge your own country support abortions and lock up Breivik(s) I never said 12 y.o should have sexy time, but you know what? Actually none of my business if they decide to do. Sorry i called your mom a stupid whore, it seem to trigger your fragile mind. I know dumb people dont like the truth raw up their ass, you start talking nonsens.
2019-09-27 11:33
#250
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Norway Warerks 
nt pedo you would love 12 year old to have sex
2019-09-27 11:50
You know that doesnt make me a pedo you low brain baiter?
2019-09-27 11:55
#253
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Norway Warerks 
wanting 12 year olds to have sex is not ok and you endorsing it makes you a pedo
2019-09-27 11:57
Hahaha, shit. You dont know? Well, just proves you are a stupid shit baiter.
2019-09-27 11:58
#255
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Norway Warerks 
not baiting but have enjoyed danes being stupid. thanks for the oil
2019-09-27 11:59
You are not? Sorry to hear that. Really sorry. Yes, enjoy your Black gold :-) you really do need it more than us.
2019-09-27 12:03
#263
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Norway Warerks 
its so nice. just go my 2nd car and i live in a house and im 19 LOL. have fun killing babies
2019-09-27 15:23
#239
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Finland Miroyev 
When you are just couple weeks pregnant the fetus isn't a conscious being therefore you are just killing bunch of cells. Animals are conscious beings but pro-lifers have no problem killing them for food.
2019-09-27 10:59
You seem to get the hypocrisy.
2019-09-27 11:07
#248
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Finland Miroyev 
Absolutely
2019-09-27 11:40
+1
2019-09-27 12:06
#260
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Europe INFO_WARRIOR 
You are bunch of cells too, you are not conscious when you are sleeping, abortions are not done that early they are done around this stage liveleak.com/view?t=kBo5s_1558302220 Vegans will moral police you about not eating an egg but then they will tell you that killing a baby inside of womb is alright because its not alive and its just clump of cells despite that being the most retarded argument i have ever seen that gets debunked every time.
2019-09-27 12:48
An egg is just menstruation. It has to be fertilized by a cock, come on.
2019-09-27 15:26
#268
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Europe INFO_WARRIOR 
i made grammar error, what im saying is vegan will attack you for eating an egg, a non fertilized thing because its wrong and its abuse of chickens, but they will support killing of human fetus in womb because somehow magically its not alive when it comes to human.
2019-09-27 15:30
#271
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Finland Miroyev 
Egg industry isn't bad because of egg, but rather cause of how all the chickens are treated, such as killing nearly all males after birth. Also do you really compare living sleeping human being to a couple week old fetus and call vegans moral police lol Your argument basically means that either everybody should be allowed to be killed when asleep or that no living cells or organisms should be allowed to be ever killed.
2019-09-27 18:18
#251
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Poland FitPolak 
#savenasciturius
2019-09-27 11:51
+1
2019-09-27 12:06
good points +1 what even are the main points against pro-life / preventing abortion besides "killing" a human?
2019-09-27 15:31
None, that's the only argument.
2019-09-28 15:27
dont eat animals my friends
2019-09-28 15:28
#280
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Singapore Asturobot 
bunch of sex addicts
2019-09-28 15:34
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