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did liquid had an era?
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Philippines supermo 
serious only mens)) liquid "dominated" the scene for a few months but would you consider it as an "era"? which teams in the past had an era and how would you define an era?
2019-09-19 20:22
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Brazil Bina1 
Nay
2019-09-19 20:23
#10
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Sweden crittaN 
did SK/LG have an era?
2019-09-19 20:26
#23
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
ofc they did
2019-09-19 20:29
#25
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Sweden crittaN 
i was asking Bina1
2019-09-19 20:29
#29
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
but i am answering, whats the point now?
2019-09-19 20:30
#64
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Portugal baki_ 
no they didnt.
2019-09-19 23:04
#80
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Sweden crittaN 
#76
2019-09-20 15:16
the answer is no men
2019-09-20 18:41
#101
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Sweden crittaN 
#76
2019-09-20 19:14
#37
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Brazil xd_noob 
LG/SK and Liquid = Mini-era (imo)
2019-09-19 20:34
#38
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Sweden crittaN 
+1
2019-09-19 20:34
+1
2019-09-19 20:37
#45
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
how can you call 2 majors mini era and then put liquid on the same lvl when in 2 majors they didnt get past 1/4finals?
2019-09-19 20:38
#51
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Brazil xd_noob 
They won 2 majors, many titles but they were a bit inconsistent, imo. 2nd place, 1st placed, dropped to 8th, 6th, and everything started over.
2019-09-19 20:42
#53
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
so what? lasted way more time than liquid, more trophies, back to back majors liquid didnt get to a major semi finals mens
2019-09-19 20:43
#56
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Brazil xd_noob 
I respect your opinion. I might say it's a semi-era, but people often use "mini-era" or "era". It lasted longer than Liquid Era, but it wasn't as consistent as Astralis or Team Liquid.
2019-09-19 20:49
#57
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
the only cs go eras ranked are 1.astralis 2.fnatic 3.LG/SK and if fnx didnt fucked fer gf sk would be first and i dont consider nip because it was to early in the game
2019-09-19 20:51
Saying NiP didn't have an era because they were ahead of all the competition is so stupid, that's like saying 5 years down the line that Astralis's era doesn't count because 5 years later we will have new and even better teams.
2019-09-20 00:02
It depends on how you define as "an era"
2019-09-19 22:36
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Sweden crittaN 
by your definition
2019-09-19 22:59
No, era is when the top 1 is tottaly consistent for at least a year, winning almost every tournment they participate, it wasnt an era, but it was one of the best teams of all csgo time
2019-09-20 13:01
#76
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Sweden crittaN 
+1 nice answer. i agree that both lg/sk and liquid are arguable eras. imo neither has a "real" era yet since these should be reserved for the best of the best, and in 10 years i dont want us to have had 15 different eras. but anyone saying liquid doesnt have an era but they think lg/sk had an era is just biased, which is why i asked. you passed my test men))))))))
2019-09-20 15:14
ofc no
2019-09-19 20:23
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African Union csarmani 
no
2019-09-19 20:23
#4
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Sweden GumWolfFF 
1.Astralis era 2.Fnatic era 3. no era
2019-09-19 20:23
#9
k0nfig | 
Liechtenstein mary69 
easy +1
2019-09-19 20:25
*1-LG era 2-SK era 3-MIBR era
2019-09-19 20:29
#27
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
taco 2 majors elige 0 majors
2019-09-19 20:30
#67
kNgV- | 
Brazil NehhT 
Taco 2 majors NA 1 major
2019-09-19 23:57
easy +1
2019-09-19 20:36
NIP obviously had an era...
2019-09-19 22:39
#103
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Other nt_newfag 
NIP?!?!?!?!?
2019-09-20 22:44
NIP ERA FNATIC ERA VP ERA MIBR ERA ASTRALIS ERA REST NO ERA
2019-09-19 20:24
that's it
2019-09-19 20:25
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Europe loonek4 
Vp never had an era
2019-09-19 20:25
VP would smash every team and everyone would fear playing against the PLOW back in the days. I dont know what you remember but for what I remember they had an ERA and for a long time also!
2019-09-19 20:28
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Europe loonek4 
No? They never won multiple events in a row or were even the best team for a long period of time. You can argue thst they had an era because they were a fairly consistent tier 1 team for many years but to say that their "era" was similar to fnatic's or Astralis' era is beyond delusional.
2019-09-19 20:35
VP WON MULTI EVENTS ,FIRST IN : 2016-09-18 1st S-Tier Offline VS CLOUD 9 DreamHack Open Bucharest 2016 2 : 0 $50,000 2016-07-30 1st S-Tier Offline VS FNATIC ELEAGUE Season 1 2 : 0 $400,000 2015-09-12 1st S-Tier Offline VS TSM ESL ESEA Pro League Invitational 3 : 2 $100,000 2015-04-19 1st S-Tier Offline VS FNATIC ESEA Season 18 - Global Invite Division 2 : 1 $70,000 2014-03-16 1st S-Tier Offline VS NIP ESL Major Series One Katowice 2014 2 : 0 $100,000
2019-09-19 20:37
#52
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Europe loonek4 
Why are you listing me their wins from different years? To have an era you need to win multiple events IN A ROW not every 4th event in a span of 2 years
2019-09-19 20:43
#49
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Myanmar xdcc 
VP was never a team far above others. they were mostly a top3-5 team that had potential to do damage in events. same with ldlc/envy, navi, tsm chokers. at the time they were winning events fnatic was winning more events, rankings also reflect that. nip, fnatic, sk, astralis were clearly above others at their peaks.
2019-09-19 20:40
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Poor delusional VP fan :((((
2019-09-19 20:29
Shat ap noob
2019-09-19 20:31
whats ur basis of an era
2019-09-19 20:32
I refuse to answer to a hacker fanboy
2019-09-19 20:32
+1 mens) 😎
2019-09-19 20:37
#8
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United States mehrfth 
they were basically the only notable team for a 4 month stretch, and they underperformed at the major but we don’t know if that’s indicative of them falling off or if it was just a one time thing. after ESL NY, it’ll be easier to say. Right now I think yes because they literally won everything for like 4 months straight.
2019-09-19 20:25
if they did fail again at ESL NY, how would you label them?
2019-09-19 20:26
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Chokequid
2019-09-19 20:29
22 straight bo3 wins is pretty nutty and the loss was to astralis so i think finals for new york would still mean number 1 team
2019-09-19 20:45
an era rn when there are only 2 majors a year, for me would be dominating, winning all or most of the tournaments that are in between them, and winning one of the majors, the only exception to the major thing would be if the team was literally dominating and the best team for 6+ months and won most the tournaments for a year, just not the major.
2019-09-19 20:27
#13
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France G2|ZywOo 
yes
2019-09-19 20:27
#14
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Europe loonek4 
That depends on your definition of an era. I personally think they did or at least they were really close to having one.
2019-09-19 20:27
no major no era
2019-09-19 20:28
So did nip have an era in 2013?
2019-09-19 20:39
"everybody on summer holidays era", yes
2019-09-19 20:28
#20
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
no /close
2019-09-19 20:29
#22
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Brazil fuNNa 
yes
2019-09-19 20:29
no but they will have when they win next tournemants
2019-09-19 20:29
Yes, a short one, but they had, dont take it away from them.
2019-09-19 20:30
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Lithuania Tocha 
only eras: NIP late 2013/2014 era fnatic late 2014/2015 era SK 2016/2017 era Astralis 2018/2019 era
2019-09-19 20:30
+1
2019-09-20 13:10
#30
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Germany Xantennn 
no major no era xaxaaaxaxxaax :-)
2019-09-19 20:30
#34
jOELZ | 
Korea Hunyango 
for americans. They tried to glorify it so much because NA have always been the laughing stock of esports.
2019-09-19 20:33
#35
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
no lol
2019-09-19 20:33
still do and i am unbiased
2019-09-19 20:33
No.
2019-09-19 20:37
#46
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Bulgaria zhelyazkoG 
Microscopic era. Excluding last 2 majors, they are year and half top 2 constantly.
2019-09-19 20:38
no major no era everybody knows that
2019-09-19 20:40
that
2019-09-19 20:46
NiP is the exception
2019-09-19 22:40
#66
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Brazil Morcegao 
+1
2019-09-19 23:57
no, and its not because they didnt win the major, its that liquids competition was a lot worse than astralis era. they faced astralis once in their 6 big LAN streak and only won 2-1. them losing to astralis 2-0 in major playoffs didnt help either. yeah they beat vitality and ence in multiple playoff matches but ence&vitality as t3 teams < navi&liquid during astralis era and envy, tsm and navi during fnatic era. and no sk never had a era lol keep dreaming madzilians
2019-09-19 20:41
Clearly TL did not have a major. For many reason.. their game wasnt good enough for it. they didnt change the game, didnt lift the game. They didnt win the spot. they didnt become better, but the best team after 16 months where no one was near them took a break, and went away. That was why TL became number 1. and from that and the best reason it was not an era. to have an era you have to become the best team so far. so NIP. had an era they changed the game improved was the best ever. Astralis had an era, they changed the game and lifted cs, becoming the best team ever... so TL not being better than Astralis was not playing better, not dominating not doing anythig near what Astralis did ofc mean its not an era. people only talk about this because of Astralis and how they changed the game and dominated, so when they stepped away NA wanted the same an started saying it to a team that was no where near.. dont get me wrong TL is a great team, but cs have had many great teams. and many number 1 teams.. that is not an era. an era is something game changing something special. something more. something new. something better than ever. and TL was none of those things. And the call for it only come with a fans mind. TL was no different than many other number 1 teams. many matches was not dominated.. we have seen domination from Astralis. and TL did not do that. And we have seen if Astralis want they can just get back because they just have a much higher reach than TL. TL is just an other normal number 1 team. There have been 2. maybe 3 eras... an era is something more than the normal. something that changes the scene.. TL only changed something for NA because they had a team that won some. and that is why they call for it. trying to make it more than it was.. But truth is. they didnt even win the spot. they didnt become better than the team they couldnt beat. only when they needed to have a break to tend to family and such did TL have a chance to become number 1. so many reason why TL did not have an era, and was not a special number 1 team. if we call them that, we should call 20 teams epic, and eras and what not.... Shame for cs this is going on, instead of just enjoying the epic stuff there is. why try to make something amazing normal. and what TL did was also nice. enjoy it for what it is. dont make it something it wasnt.. then you take away from there achievement... bassicly calling TL an era is saying you dont think they did good enough. because they didnt have an era. and if people need it so much. need so much to call it so. it means they are not happy with what the team actually did.. Again. a shame.
2019-09-19 22:51
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Cyprus shmoe 
tl;dr.
2019-09-20 13:13
#81
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Sweden crittaN 
+1 name checks out
2019-09-20 15:22
I say if NIP and SK had an "era", then Liquid should also have one. SK won 2 majors in their era but not much of anything else. NIP never won a major during their era, it is known for their insanely dominant 24 series streak. Liquid won 22 series during their time, so I'd say it's definitely an era considering how competitive the scene has been this past year compared to NIP's time. The only time Liquid fell short is literally one single best-of 3 series and two LAN best of ones this past major. You can't say their era is over because of those two losses, if that was the case, Fnatic and Astralis 2018 were the only two teams to ever have eras.
2019-09-19 22:56
#84
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Sweden crittaN 
you have something called confirmation bias my friend. i.imgur.com/gle6TdI.jpg look at these numbers and tell me again that liquid deserve an era right now. Sure, they might win ESL NY, DH malmö and keep winning and then they will have an era, but as of today the numbers speak for themselves. NIP didnt win a major but theyre on top of every other parameter. Liquid ONLY sticks out in their series streak. SK ONLY sticks out in their major streak. (which they barely do anymore considering 2 other teams have won back-to-back majors)
2019-09-20 15:30
ok but what im trying to say is people are saying that Liquid cant have an era just because they didnt win the major. If you look at those numbers, Liquid is also one of the lowest where it says months and they only have 4 vs other teams which have 10-12
2019-09-20 18:23
#88
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Sweden crittaN 
liquid can absolutely have an era if they continue winning, but they cant have one yet. Winning majors helps but its not necessary to define an era (see nip) not sure what you are trying to say with the second part
2019-09-20 18:27
#65
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Mexico LEWORb 
Nah
2019-09-19 23:54
#68
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United States Trump2020KAG 
They need 2 of the next big 3 events. Ny Malmo Beijing plus the blast points championship event win.
2019-09-20 00:01
yes and no my parebrochongdude
2019-09-20 00:02
Yes 2 month
2019-09-20 13:03
#74
BnTeT | 
Cyprus shmoe 
era requires major win + winning numerous tornaments. at least dominating the scene for a whole year with maybe one upset. if liquid wins from now on and gets #1 next major, they have era.
2019-09-20 13:12
"with maybe one upset" Soooo literally no team had an era ever?
2019-09-20 15:15
#83
BnTeT | 
Cyprus shmoe 
hi
2019-09-20 15:24
Yes it was an era
2019-09-20 15:14
No. Only NiP, fnatic and Astralis had eras
2019-09-20 15:16
+1
2019-09-20 18:27
+1
2019-09-20 18:28
Dominating couple of months without major =//= era
2019-09-20 15:24
Winning ibp masters is not an era
2019-09-20 15:31
no
2019-09-20 16:14
#90
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Russia deniszzy 
no, they had no era
2019-09-20 18:28
no rofl
2019-09-20 18:28
they didn;t lose a tourament for 6 months
2019-09-20 18:28
Eras: NiP Fnatic Astralis Liquid's run was probably more dominant than any team at their era but their run was too short aswell as them going out in quarters at the major being a big setback. The chance of their run becoming an era is still alive, a player break into a quarter exit isn't going to change that.
2019-09-20 18:40
No.
2019-09-20 18:44
#97
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Japan Johnny_Br@Vo 
Era was about to start
2019-09-20 18:57
#98
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Poland Kazk 
No the only reason they were 1 is because all good teams were in bad form
2019-09-20 19:04
#99
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Brazil |witcher| 
no major no era
2019-09-20 19:05
The only eras were 1. Astralis 2. fnatic 3. NiP
2019-09-20 19:10
I would say yes, any time in which one team is very dominant could be called an era imo. So NiP and Fnatic both had two, SK had one (though just barely), Astralis had a long one, Liquid had a short one. And now we'll see if Liquid will continue, if Astralis will get a second one or whatever else might happen.
2019-09-20 19:21
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