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Astralis = OG?
FalleN | 
United States BigDaddyShrood 
Both dont play tournaments for the whole year but then win the majors/internationals
2019-09-22 16:01
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#1
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Poland Adisky 
I guess they study other teams and practice good strategy tbh
2019-09-22 16:02
not, astralis play to win, og play for fun, Don't compare OG with astralis, it's very uneven
2019-09-22 16:03
OG doto = interesting doto Astralis cs = wtf am I watching, how do you not fall asleep while watching this boring ass game
2019-09-22 16:08
#4
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Norway k3ron 
0/8
2019-09-22 16:08
#5
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
expected from NA brain astralis bring the game to new level with there tactics and utility usage but you want only aim expected
2019-09-22 16:09
the games should be interesting Astralis make us watch some sort of chess competition Yes, their gameplay is smart, but its boring to watch and therefore the viewers are falling each major because everyone knows that Astralis is going to win the major again
2019-09-22 18:15
#30
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Bulgaria HeavenRock 
i like to watch every top team they bring different things to the game and i agree that because of astralis the viewers are falling but other teams are just shit and astralis on another level if they cant catch dont blame astralis liquid had a chance to beat them but they lost 2-0 there fault
2019-09-22 18:17
chokequid I never believed that they are going to win in Berlin they are just too cocky but they cant really prove their cockiness in the most important tournament
2019-09-22 18:18
#115
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Indonesia NRG_Edward91 
TRUE +1
2019-09-23 11:51
#47
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Reunion eggshells 
no one is saying astralis is bad, they are actually too good and after Berlin i think they will have another era
2019-09-22 18:45
#43
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Lmao, no one else besides the Astralis fans thought Astralis would win. Stop blaiming Astralis for the falling viewernumbers. It just means we'll the rid of the plebs.
2019-09-22 18:43
#70
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Canada thelegend27 
it was pretty obvious that astralis would win. i had my doubts after the nrg game but then i realized they were literally saving strats since ast were already 2-0 up. not astralis’ fault that they practiced during the playerbreak and everyone else didnt
2019-09-22 19:46
#86
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Lithuania aikaz45 
have you seen berlin major? every single interesting game was with astralis... nrg vs astralis liquid vs astralis cr4zy vs astralis
2019-09-23 02:29
#94
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Germany Gabbah 
+1 Astralis is an amazing team to watch. They always have so smart tactics. Had the honor of talking to Gla1ve in Berlin. Really cool and chill guy. Super humble aswell.
2019-09-23 06:56
+1
2019-09-23 12:08
no drop = no party = no viewers
2019-09-23 07:02
#148
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Colombia kibitz- 
+1 coins are SUCKS
2019-09-25 19:21
Imagine thinking Astralis is boring LOL 0/8
2019-09-23 08:37
#131
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Portugal S4nd 
+1 It's just beautiful
2019-09-23 13:38
#6
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Europe UhddiS 
0/8
2019-09-22 16:09
#8
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Cyprus Xeeh 
Astralis are far from boring.. the way they play cs is beautiful
2019-09-22 16:10
What do you expect from NA kid?
2019-09-22 16:18
LOL Sorry that the way Astralis plays is to advanced for you, maybe if you play a lot more yourself then you can perhaps see how clever they are.
2019-09-22 16:11
#17
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United States IdolaMochi 
OG way of playing dota is really special and entertaining, thats why he said that
2019-09-22 17:36
Could be, then he is just saying CS is boring.
2019-09-22 17:46
#19
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United States IdolaMochi 
OG back to back champions have the most intressting Dota in the whole world Astralis back to back to back champions have the most boring CS in the whole world Thas what he ment, he wanted to point out that they where both champions but they are seen differently by the community
2019-09-22 17:48
Well, as I touched on originally it is not Astralis that is boring it is people that don't understand what they are doing. Personally I think their team play is amazing and seeing how the use utility and manage to come up with new plays is great.
2019-09-22 18:29
Astralis play a beautiful game of CS but i don't expect everyone to like it. Some people just want some inhuman reactions, insta headshots and super spray transfers etc. That's how they enjoy the game, they don't think about the tactical aspects of the game.
2019-09-22 18:58
#25
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Germany naeqode 
Their way of play really isnt that advanced m8.. they got some good nade usage and strong executes but really the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes.
2019-09-22 18:01
#32
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United States Frotha 
And have 5 top 20 capable players, 3/4 top 10
2019-09-22 18:18
Are you saying mistakes is a good thing? Really.
2019-09-22 18:30
#55
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Germany naeqode 
the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes. the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes. the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes. the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes. the reason theyre so good is that they just make an utter minimum of mistakes.
2019-09-22 18:56
try reading that again.. with glasses
2019-09-22 20:01
#97
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Germany Gabbah 
They literally defined the usage of utility, and their strats are always something new. Do you even watch them play? Like srsly how can you now see that? In the major, when they played Vertigo against Liquid they literally outplayed them on every level. And you say they just make no mistakes... I mean they make only a few mistakes, but they are so tacticly supirior, that is isnt even funny anymore.
2019-09-23 07:02
#105
Jame | 
CIS ZILTOID 
that vertigo game was a one show pony, now everyone knows they've been preparing to anti-strat the shit outta liquid, other than that, +1 for on the no mistake part, once they start making stupid decisions in-game (and there's been instances when they had), it's all downhill, same as with any other team
2019-09-23 07:58
#132
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Germany Gabbah 
Liquid is not a bad tactical team. But they completely destroyed them in a tactial way. Which other team, other then Astralis did that to Liquid? No one! Proves my point, that Astralis is on a tier above anyone else tacticly speaking.
2019-09-23 16:45
#135
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Germany naeqode 
Liquid didnt get destroyed tactically on Vertigo. They got out-prepared. Astralis had more stuff on a map thats 2 months old. Thats not tactical advance, thats just preparation. Then on OVP Liquid were up 11-7 on CT side but lost a 1v2 to dev1ce during which Elige overpeeked unneccasarily (aka a MISTAKE) which wouldve likely put them up 13-7 and forced a 3rd map since Astralis wouldve never gotten money control. But Astralis played perfectly (aka no MISTAKES) after that 1v2 and won fair and square (also because Twistzz still in slump and couldnt find a single kill in monster for like 5 rounds straight).
2019-09-23 18:23
#136
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Germany Gabbah 
ok so your saying to me, that preperation is not tactical? Like tf?! You can have all the preperation in the world, if you dont have the mind of a good IGL nothing is going to come from it. Also you still have to read the gameplan from the other team, which is a TACTICAL thing. you proved yourself wrong, when you said, that they out-prepared Liquid, because thats legit one of the most tactical things you can do. Like Steel once said: " The work of an IGL happens before a match."
2019-09-23 19:59
#137
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Germany naeqode 
Tactical = Outrotating the opponent, reading the opponent midgame, adjusting setups, calling strats according to whats happening Preparation= New way to take B control of Vertigo Really not that difficult to spot the difference.
2019-09-23 20:03
0/8
2019-09-22 16:19
#24
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Denmark Xipingu 
0/8, I suggest playing Lego Racers if you do not understand the level of cleverness they possess.
2019-09-22 17:58
they do play clever, but playing clever doesn't mean that their games are interesting to watch prime sk > prime astralis to me a viewer
2019-09-22 18:12
#119
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
Flair checks out
2019-09-23 12:14
#26
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Venezuela Kremator 
lmao +1, i love how all these astralis fans says "oh i just another level" when CS (and LoL now that we talk about it) has proven again and again that (better game tactics) =/= "more fun for spectators"
2019-09-22 18:03
-1 Astralis most fun to watch because of their tactics. You just want to see EPIC GAMER MOMENTS. While Im here for the actual content of the match.
2019-09-22 18:19
that's what most of us want to watch astralis = chess gameplay prime sk = fast rush b omg coldzera what is that omg fer is behind them already, etc. so yeah If Astralis become more aggressive then they will have a chance to be more appealing to the general public that wants epic gamer moments.
2019-09-22 18:20
Well, bad luck for the general public that wants epic gamer moments then. Because Astralis have no incentive to change what they're doing. I prefer good CS over epic gamer moments so, go me I guess mens)) Prime SK was more tactical than prime Fnatic and prime Fnatic was a slightly more tactical version of VP. Prime Fnatic and prime VP were my favourite teams but I like Astralis a lot too.
2019-09-22 18:42
Whether or not they are boring is up to the person watching but it's just funny seeing all these Astralis fans thinking they are some brilliant masterminds of this game while what they are doing is nothing special. They have good utility usage and don't do stupid shit to try to win rounds and just follow the fundamentals really well.
2019-09-22 20:02
#120
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
If what they're doing is nothing special why no one can counter them?
2019-09-23 12:17
Because other teams aren't having good fundamentals and are relying purely on skill except for Liquid. And Liquid has countered them multiple times this year, the only reason they even lost to Astralis was that vertigo pick which was a sneaky and brilliantly timed move, but it works one time, and then Liquid counters it easily.
2019-09-23 18:17
#138
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
Did you think they play serious after katowice major? Lol Even furia can beat them twice in that time
2019-09-24 04:58
great excuse lmao
2019-09-24 05:50
#122
RpK | 
France Snabe_ 
"Astralis fans" 0/8
2019-09-23 12:19
Right, I mean basically most plebs in the CSGO community, not just Astralis fans.
2019-09-23 18:18
#140
RpK | 
France Snabe_ 
You know that Liquid will drop one or two players soon :)
2019-09-25 13:59
They could fail 3 tournaments in a row and they still wouldn't make a change, but the reality is, there is no way they can lose ESL New York. The major loss was just a fluke, and they'll prove it after crushing Astralis.
2019-09-25 17:15
#142
RpK | 
France Snabe_ 
From french casters they talk about a kick in Liquid because of negative atmosphere
2019-09-25 18:01
what does that even mean? these french casters dont have any insider knowledge of a negative atmosphere, and from what Liquid players have been saying, the atmosphere has always been positive and feeling very confident and hungry for the win since Stewie joined.
2019-09-25 19:10
#151
RpK | 
France Snabe_ 
??????? "these french casters dont have any insider knowledge"
2019-09-26 12:54
#92
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Europe Vallon3 
-1 0/8
2019-09-23 03:04
0/8
2019-09-23 08:06
#7
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India Packchallenger 
Yeah somewhat
2019-09-22 16:09
#10
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Cyprus Xeeh 
No. Astralis are good all year round OG are complete trash all year and somehow win TI
2019-09-22 16:14
#98
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Kyrgyzstan JimHalpert 
you kindda brought up the same argument. They win the tournament that actually matters
2019-09-23 07:08
#102
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Cyprus Xeeh 
OG are completely irrelevant the entire year long though Astralis are not
2019-09-23 07:38
#13
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Poland dreamShow 
OG are like couple of friends that have fun in the game and win tournaments just by that Astralis is an example of hard work and pure dedication to the game btw: og=ana, astralis=a team
2019-09-22 16:20
og=ana hahahahhaa
2019-09-22 17:34
#23
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Poland dreamShow 
have u seen og games with iltw instead of ana? lmao. og without ana is shite, ana is og
2019-09-22 17:56
nice buyback on spectre in the first game of bo5 final. Ana is super good, but not the only reason they are winning.
2019-09-22 18:38
#66
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Poland dreamShow 
u remember his aquilla sell to get enough gold for buyback and actually win the game? that was the next level play, this guy is nuts and og is lucky to have him when they need him. its like he takes a break for like whole season and then comes back just when dpc ends and help them win TI. ana is a god
2019-09-22 19:30
This is THE ONLY one highlight i saw from him. OG has super good teamplay. Its not like only carry farms. OG let supports freefarm to get the crutial item. They can sacrifice farm of their cores for that. Besides that, they always find different hero combos, that havent been used before. So they are similar to astralis.
2019-09-22 19:35
#68
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Poland dreamShow 
" OG let supports freefarm to get the crutial item" thats what every top team does, its normal that ur pos4 shaker needs blink or forcestaff so u let him get some exp and gold on mid/off. btw only one highlight? lmao. he causes the biggest destruction in enemies back lines and take attention of them so rest of the team can shine like ceb with his call of the lifetime or jerax with great ulties and saves. ana has the balls like no other carry player, trust his teammates like noone else and has an awesome raw skill to stay alive and make some chaos instead of being cliffed lmao
2019-09-22 19:42
#69
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United Kingdom Mattthematt 
When ana first joined og he was crap but got carried by notail. He is a big part of their success but not all of it. Jerax and topson are immensely talented in the roles
2019-09-22 19:44
#77
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Poland dreamShow 
that was like his 1st real team after a short period of time as sub for IG, and he was like 16-17y old back then. after he gained some exp he became the most solid pillar in OG. n0tail also played hell of a big role to help ana go where he is right now by cheering him up with some warm words. check true sight when og won 3-2 and watch now n0tail is trying to keep ana positive, even is ana feels like its not his game and he failed a lot of times, dane always send a glad word to him which makes ana believe in himself and stomp the enemy team. thats why they are like a group of friends that know eachother for a very long time for me.
2019-09-22 20:13
post dotabuff no. youre not gonna post your dotabuff because you're a legend scrub who thinks hes figured out the whole OG play. topson is the reason why OG is where they are at. Topson's movement meta is what carried them the entire tournament. Stop spewing shit you legend scrub, go and farm your 25 mins battle fury
2019-09-23 09:37
post dotabuff no. youre not gonna post your dotabuff because you're a legend scrub who thinks hes figured out the whole OG play. topson is the reason why OG is where they are at. Topson's movement meta is what carried them the entire tournament. Stop spewing shit you legend scrub, go and farm your 25 mins battle fury
2019-09-23 09:37
#14
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Portugal MR_CAL 
OG is shit man, always been. why are you comparing a shit team with astralis?
2019-09-22 16:24
the most successful team in esport history
2019-09-22 17:34
OG 4 majors won and 2 Tis, astralis only 4 majors
2019-09-22 17:49
yes.
2019-09-22 21:13
... that is not how it works mate.
2019-09-23 02:35
#99
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Kyrgyzstan JimHalpert 
then explain sir
2019-09-23 07:11
I mean, there is no equivalent of the majors in csgo, what we have as majors are the TI's in dota (lets say 1 TI= 2 majors). But is not the same to compare it directly.
2019-09-23 08:26
#121
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
So astralis need to learn dota and win ti? Lol
2019-09-23 12:18
Hmm well cant really say that.. Since last year when they where the best team ever. They played non stop for 16 months.. They just took time of, a break. family time.. But its still Astralis.. they still have the team to be far ahead of others. So if they are back at playing full time they will also get number 1 spot.. Its not like its their way to only play a few tournaments. To say that would be only thinking of them while on break and not everything else.
2019-09-22 17:50
#22
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Russia smartest_weeb 
OMEGALUL Imagine compare two time TI winner (30 million at least and I even don't count their majors) and Astralis (only 6 LUL) It always be bout money
2019-09-22 17:54
0/8
2019-09-22 18:44
0/8
2019-09-22 19:01
such a heavy concentration of danish people commenting under me its insane
2019-09-22 18:09
Only have one thing to say.. Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb
2019-09-22 18:24
100 lvl compendium pleb let me show you this Ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb
2019-09-22 19:02
Absolutely perfect
2019-09-22 19:04
Brutal. Savage. Rekt.
2019-09-22 19:04
They're all dead!!!!!!
2019-09-22 19:09
who tf is og xd
2019-09-22 18:30
The most successful team in esport history
2019-09-22 18:48
#39
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Poland misioneos 
og is just lucky, topson won only 2 tournament in his life (2 times TI xD), astralis is the best team in cs history
2019-09-22 18:32
#46
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
fnatic is the best team in cs history
2019-09-22 18:45
#49
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Poland misioneos 
one year ago - yes last year changed it
2019-09-22 18:48
#50
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
where was Astralis in 1.6? :)
2019-09-22 18:50
#52
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Poland misioneos 
there werent flusha, jw and pronax trio in 1.6 too xD, i said team, not org and i mean global not previous version
2019-09-22 18:52
#53
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
stupid logic
2019-09-22 18:53
By your logic complexity or NiP is the best.
2019-09-22 19:04
#73
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
no lul but NiP top 2 i think
2019-09-22 20:00
#78
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Sweden ShageN 
Are you sure that there were no flusha, jw and pronax in 1.6? Pronax was top2-3 IGL in Sweden. At least 3 swedish teams were in top1-10 and pronax was 2-3 best IGL in Sweden (1.6) back in the days. Flusha and not sure about JW, but Flusha was tier3 player in 1.6. But still he was playing. (pronax was IGL of famous Lions and many other top5-10 teams of 1.6).
2019-09-22 20:17
#79
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Poland misioneos 
i mean there werent at top xD
2019-09-22 20:28
Pronax got fucked so hard on 1.6. Everytime his team got a good thing going, or a really good player, another team would pick it up, but not him.
2019-09-23 02:38
*Csgo History
2019-09-22 18:55
both teams literally changed how the game is to be played. astralis plays totally a team game, execution, trading frags and utility usage. they dont have anyone with a good mechanical skills. boring but finest cs. OG studies their opponents well enough. topson and ana are both gods in their positions / signature heroes. ceb provides many things out of the game. keeps everyone motivated, focused, calm. probably best team to play from behind, cheaky strats. io carry was something that still keeps me laughing idk why.
2019-09-22 18:40
"they dont have anyone with a good mechanical skills." that's a solid 0/8
2019-09-22 19:03
Dupreeh, magisk and device are silvers dude.
2019-09-23 02:38
True and xyp9x cant even aim at head lmao
2019-09-23 06:47
There's a reason why Astralis players don't go for headshots, which also helps them to get kills through the smoke consistently
2019-09-23 09:46
#123
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
So scream > xyp9x???
2019-09-23 12:22
#45
Frankie | 
Ukraine d3adLY 
OG>>>>>Astralis
2019-09-22 18:44
#51
OCEAN | 
Reunion |x^2| 
who and who
2019-09-22 18:51
#56
s1mple | 
Brazil afxsaw1 
Astralis 1G
2019-09-22 18:58
dont insult OG like that
2019-09-22 19:10
OG casually won biggest tourney in esports while memeing through chat wheel and team flairs. Don't even compare Boringstralis with them.
2019-09-22 19:52
+1 Topson AKA Godson greatest ever to touch the game
2019-09-22 19:56
2019-09-22 20:00
+1111 OG are like friends playing having fun while dominating, while astralis are Triharding every single time(except dupreeh).
2019-09-22 20:31
#80
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Latvia tibr0 
they are da best ever 3in row win
2019-09-22 20:30
OG (2 Internationals and 4 majors won) : $33 million Astralis (1 Grand slam and 4 majors won) : $7.3 million
2019-09-22 20:32
how many majors are there in a year in dota2?
2019-09-23 02:36
2
2019-09-23 07:01
OG won 4 $3 milliom ones, then there were only 2 per year. in 2016 2017.
2019-09-23 12:03
I don't get why there's so much prize money in dota, it's a shit game and it's shit to watch it.
2019-09-25 19:12
because its the manly version of League
2019-09-26 07:17
Manly = Fat virgin nerds? No
2019-09-26 12:06
more virgins in lL OMEGaLUL L
2019-09-26 14:16
OG 4 MAJORS 2 TI > ASTRALIS 4 MAJORS
2019-09-22 21:14
csgo TI when mens ((
2019-09-23 02:27
#124
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
So astralis need to learn dota and win ti?
2019-09-23 12:23
to be better than OG yes, but they don't will never learn dota its hard for them
2019-09-23 13:32
Agree. Dota like 10 times harder than csgo
2019-09-23 13:36
#89
Denmark zink 
I mean, if you want to compare apples and oranges, it's a pretty farfetched one here. If the criteria you are using to compare them is just winning, it gets pretty vague. Astralis plays slow, calculated CS. Never anything really exciting, just clinical. OG plays CEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEB kind of dota, they play with an extreme amount of passion and they really want to straight up brawl rather than do the calm and calculated thing.
2019-09-23 02:37
#100
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China WinnerZ 
ASTRALIS>>OG
2019-09-23 07:12
doesent matter if astralis win, they dont gain new fans cause they dont have the charisma of champions. just some danes tryharding. cant wait for the next storyline in cs cause this is just boring tbh
2019-09-23 07:15
NO BRO,, OG JUST WINNING TI BUT THEY TRASH PLAYING ANOTHER EVENT ,, IF YOU STRONG YOU CAN TAKE ANY EVENT NOT JUST ONE
2019-09-23 07:44
Cry is free PSG fann🤣🤣🖐
2019-09-23 07:46
Lul i cheer for secret liquid psg not og he just carried by ana and notail free money
2019-09-23 11:47
who cares when u can have vacation & relax 6 months in the season then go win Ti so EZ
2019-09-23 12:04
yeah true but pros will know fact og is nothing win 1 important event just that
2019-09-23 13:31
OG 2 TI 4 Majors
2019-09-23 13:33
#129
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Finland Vkims 
EZ 4 JERAX
2019-09-23 13:35
OG literally is Astralis just in different bodies Magisk = ana dupreeh = Topson xyp9x = Ceb device = JerAx gla1ve = n0tail
2019-09-23 08:10
astralis goat
2019-09-23 08:11
major is nothing compare to the international but Astralis has the same kind of greatness with OG
2019-09-23 13:35
#145
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United States vikingswine 
They are not OG, more like newfag. OG squads are like old Fnatic, NIP, ENVYUS or Navi, or very games fren. Astralis not OG
2019-09-25 19:13
Astralis only stayed away/played at lower level for ½ year or less - won both Majors in 2019 It felt like longer, because Liquid totally dominated during that time, and won a Grand Slam
2019-09-25 19:17
ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeb
2019-09-25 19:20
astralis>og
2019-09-26 12:55
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