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eweszlo.pl/post/neo_wyzbylem_sie_wszystk.. The gameplay surrounding the games was also exciting. Snax has openly said that the players he would not like to form a team with are TaZ and NEO. We can already say today that the family envelope that arose around Virtus.pro was a myth? Not necessarily. We also had good times. When we were doing well, the team worked great and we won the biggest tournaments in the world, the atmosphere in the team was very pleasant. Why has this changed? I'd rather not delve into it. So many times I've heard from Snax that I just got used to it. I do not attach much importance to this. You never know what you'll hear at the next opportunity.
2019-09-22 21:45
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#1
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
It was a real team, until TaZ left and Snax started talking shit
2019-09-22 21:46
+1 mens))) he is snake.
2019-09-22 21:48
#75
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Finland ENCEL 
Snaxe
2019-09-23 00:30
Snakex
2019-09-23 07:20
I dont understand. What Snax talked about?
2019-09-22 21:57
#22
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
i mean taz was underperforming for 2 years and atmosphere in team was shit then came out 1 clip ( youtube.com/watch?v=DluTCW2-8Lc) and it turned out that snax was toxic on taz because he didnt give information. and people are judging snax after this 1 clip the best part is that in this clip nobody is even trying to calm these two (taz and snax), rest of the team is laughing or silent (neo)
2019-09-22 22:09
You're judging taz after one clip soo.... butthurt much?
2019-09-22 22:21
#30
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
wow did i even judge taz after one clip? i want to see where
2019-09-22 22:27
Look at your ass, there you will have it. Also, guess why atmospehre was shit :thinking:
2019-09-22 22:28
#32
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
yeah, because you clearly cant achieve anything because of underperfoming teammate that has rating below 1.0 for 2 year or more straight. thats why atmosphere was shit ;)
2019-09-22 22:29
I wonder why no one like snax 🤔 youtube.com/watch?v=DluTCW2-8Lc
2019-09-22 22:30
#36
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
#22 "and people are judging snax after this 1 clip" yeah u just proved my point, thanks
2019-09-22 22:32
Yeah He is toxic kid and there is a lot of evidence.
2019-09-22 22:37
#44
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
xd waiting for those facebook bait posts by snax, just give it here cuz u wont find anything else than that and this clip from train PCW
2019-09-22 22:45
Even pasha said that trash should be deleted and TaZ stay in the team.
2019-09-22 22:46
#48
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
evidence?
2019-09-22 22:52
gamingsociety.pl/artykul/zle-sie-dzieje-.. Snax is trash and toxic and you trying to defend him OMEGALUL here pasha interview youtu.be/v9lvjk83kBc?t=297
2019-09-22 22:53
#52
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
yeah these 3 facebook posts were really shit, but i can understand his point snax's ambitions were really high and he tried to win every possible tournament which he couldnt because of underperforming teammates and i feel like im discussing about this 3rd time with someone so i will just end this one here\ and pasha was right but why did he laugh on taz why didnt kuben and neo do any shit
2019-09-22 23:02
#64
f0rest | 
Mexico bfish8 
No, what happened was Snax believed that he was so much better than the legends who brought him along, that he should be in complete control of the team, including the IGL. They attempted to shift their playstyle multiple times for Snax. They let him call shitty FPL strats and play on the fly, the complete opposite of what they had done for 10 years as the best team in CS history, and they sucked even more. Snax killed their passion and made them feel lost in-game with his horrible leadership. Tensions continued to rise and eventually in hopes of saving the team they benched TaZ. However once the spirit of the team was gone, they completely fell apart. All on Snax. He killed TaZ, Neo, and pasha's chances at a couple of more productive years as CS players.
2019-09-22 23:39
#66
kuben | 
CIS mikj 
Truth here
2019-09-22 23:46
Some truth yes.
2019-09-24 15:34
I like Snax. TaZ is where he belongs - tier3.
2019-09-22 23:20
Taz_1_proleaguespot_snax_0
2019-09-22 23:24
So snax had any right to be toxic af? Also i can hear taz giving info but guess you're deaf :) It's not like snax was underperforming for a long time... not at all :)
2019-09-22 22:33
#41
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
LMAO snax was the only player that carried VP (and pasha sometimes) in most important tournaments of the year. and taz was purely SHIT with rating below 1.0 all the fucking time. you all wanted to kick taz, but after this one clip you decided to hate snax I HAVE NO IDEA WHY, just listen to this shot, plastic fans youtube.com/watch?v=3vDXzzw1cLE 1:40-2:00 3:20-3:40 4:00-4:20 and no, nobody has right to be toxic on someone else, but why pasha was laughing? why byali was laughing? why kuben was even taking someone side instead of calming this situation? why neo was silent all the time in this clip?
2019-09-22 22:43
#47
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
502 Bad Gateway nginx/1.13.3
2019-09-22 22:51
#50
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
allright whats your point of giving this interview, what words
2019-09-22 22:56
"LMAO snax was the only player that carried VP (and pasha sometimes) in most important tournaments of the year." Not including almost whole 2017 and whole 2018? Ok. It's so incredible that someone expected good stats from snax, right? He was the star player, he was able to do what he wanted and yet he failed hard for 2 years. Taz was never a star player, he was decent at best. Had some moments but nobody expected from him to go wild with 1.30+ rating. Somehow shit taz stats were not a problem when VP were winning but it became a huge problem after few loses :). Young boys just needed someone to take blame and they did it. Snax deserves all the hate since his ego is bigger than his belly and he was the only one talking shit at teammates (surprise, right?). He was the reason why atmosphere was so shit because BIG STAR SNAX IS THE BEST AND REST ARE SHIT. Why pasha and byali were laughing? Maybe because snax decided to argue with taz for no reason? Taz pushed upper, at the same time gambit players went down. Unlucky timing. And Pasha was the guy that said taz shouldnt push like that with bad spawn so it's not like everyone was on taz side. And back to first clip. Taz was right. Maybe snax should wash his ears.
2019-09-22 23:00
#53
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
starting with the clip you can literally see taz said info right after snax words that he will rotate cuz taz isnt giving any information. and taz says 2 upper while 3 gambit players are already on lower/coming site. pasha laughed on taz that experienced player shouldnt go heaven B with so bad spawn (which is right, taz fault here, probably whole situation wouldnt happen if taz played defense) neo calm as always, which is sometimes good, but you clearly see that they talk about 1 round for few minutes and you dont do shit with it????? kk snax: he was the star player, except pasha he was the only one from VP that was constantly in top5. eleague major: Snax is the best one, rating almost 1.30 dh las vegas: snax is the best one, 1.24 rating iem kato: whole team shit (except pasha), differences between ratings are so small that we can say all 4 players were shit esl pro league: snax 1st with the best rating, although whole team is shit adrenaline cyber league vs navi: snax the best, 1.30 rating esl cologne: whole team shit pgl krakow: whole team decent, really similar ratings (even taz had above 1.0 wow pogchamp) i dont have time for writing about rest tournaments, but in 3/4 of them snax was one of the best players (if not the best) in VP with the best rating. i was checking every important tournament of 2017 2018 was a year basically downfall of whole team, the popular clip from train, atmosphere is going down, everything is going down so i dont see a point of going into statistisc of players (Snax even said on interview that there was no ambition to win in VP so he decided to switch to mouz)
2019-09-22 23:18
static.hltv.org/images/galleries/1693-fu.. He was nowhere near one of the best after major
2019-09-22 23:21
#56
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
yeah now give rest of the team statistisc. taz would have 90% red
2019-09-22 23:23
But he is IGL and played mostly support (or was lurker) and made space for Snax and Pasha like snax while he was igl made space for neo and he said it by himself so what are you talking about also glaive isnt top frag but star players doing shit like device.
2019-09-23 00:27
#78
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
wow where did you get the information about taz igl. im 90% sure that neo was iglin most of the times in VP.
2019-09-23 00:32
He was IGL while they kicked him and they wanted more firepower so they took michu and place neo igl instead.
2019-09-23 00:34
#62
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
btw now i looked more into these statistics. 5/13 = 1st (while i dont think here are every tournaments, example adrenaline cyber league which VP won vs NaVi isnt here, snax had 1.30 rating 3 out of 13 = 4th or 5th. i think not bad considering that whole team was struggling
2019-09-22 23:27
And back to the clip: Kuben explained it at the end what happend. Taz made a mistake, would be better to peek upper without wasting time for a flash since thats probably why he havent seen them... but almost everything that snax said was bullshit (like: taz being 10 seconds in upper, sayin that taz flashed himself(??), saying that taz gave info about people being down even when he said about people being upper). Mood in team was shit, that's for sure. And as I said, almost whole 2017 snax was bad. Not including dh Las Vegas and Eleague, these were their last good tournaments. I dont conut Adrenaline since they played only 2 games vs hr and navi. VP was just shit. 2017 was a bad year for them and 2018 was even worse.
2019-09-23 11:28
+1
2019-09-23 22:24
XAXAXAAXAXA wtf mens?
2019-09-22 22:23
#37
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Finland Faust_fSt 
"and people are judging snax after this 1 clip" As far as I can remember from the interviews, they were very open about snax not being happy with neo's and taz's in-game leadership, and they made snax IGL for a while. This was already a point where they couldn't come back from, and lead to Taz being removed because the org had more faith in building around snax.
2019-09-22 22:33
#39
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
bro, you say this like making Snax igl was the only option they did. they said many times, they tried different IGLs, different AWPers (even pasha switched to rifling), different setups, they tried doing different things for 2 years. their golden time just ended. players were undeperforming (the most one was taz). you cant play in same lineup forever.
2019-09-22 22:35
TL dr of the conflict?
2019-09-22 23:24
#63
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
you mean right here in the clip? -taz gives no info -snax checks B on his own (meanwhile taz gives info, but very late) -discussion about who gave information first and how fake was it (example taz said that 2 are coming meanwhile 3 were on BS already) and rest of the clip snax and taz insult each other
2019-09-22 23:29
What did they say to each other? I mean was the insults only about game or irl too?
2019-09-23 11:07
#65
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Denmark VP_EZ_WIN 
Are they mad because Taz gave late info once? and why is byali forceing?> I dont understand why they are so mad that he dont say it once.
2019-09-22 23:40
#69
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
basically taz said at the beginning: "I go top (he means heaven B) snax: oh gentlemans, you woke up a demon (silence from taz for +10 seconds since he said he is going upper B) snax: i go B cuz he doesnt say anything taz: 2 B, im dying snax: like they already 3 on lower B pasha and byali laughs neo: good shot byali till the end of round nothing interesting and later they were discussing who gave the right info, who is lying, who's fault etc i dont understand it either. it was just 1 round and they were still discussing about this. i guess its because of their results, that taz was underperforming on events, atmosphere on team was shit so even that 1 round was so important for them, somehow.
2019-09-22 23:52
#70
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Denmark VP_EZ_WIN 
Yea also they were forceing every round in there pracc, as if they already gave up.
2019-09-23 00:08
+1
2019-09-22 23:27
#2
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Poland Jancz1 
11.06.2019, 19:53:00
2019-09-22 21:46
Yeah neo changed his opinion in these 3 months for sure.
2019-09-22 21:48
Wtf snax two faced toileto
2019-09-22 21:47
I are agree.
2019-09-22 21:48
tooo old
2019-09-22 21:48
yesn't
2019-09-22 21:50
#8
Snax | 
Europe Krychaaaa 
11.06.2019 nt
2019-09-22 21:49
3 months from now.
2019-09-22 21:49
#11
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Brazil jstrr 
I mean he said that he had problems with the people in the team, that's just an honest opinion IMO It's different from coldzera as a famous public person openly talking shit about showtime, steel etc in an interview
2019-09-22 21:52
Snax said shit on taz and neo also on Kuben (coach) Even pasha said in interview that they should delete him and byali and keep taz.
2019-09-22 21:54
When you suck, you should at least be able to handle this.
2019-09-22 21:55
They should take bntet instead of snax.
2019-09-22 21:57
#12
jokes | 
Ukraine s1v9mple 
Snax ruined Polish CS
2019-09-22 21:54
He did +1
2019-09-22 21:55
Expected from toxic snax
2019-09-22 21:57
+1
2019-09-22 22:04
#23
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
why hltv cant let me mute people like on twitter, you two are the biggest braindeads of this site and i keep seeing your nicknames and threads and comments... and idc if u r baiting or not
2019-09-22 22:17
Hello again, how long are you "polerować" snax awp?
2019-09-22 22:19
#25
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
ty serio masz kurwa nudne zycie siedzisz w piwnicy cale zycie i walisz konia jak taz ci zrobi 3k na lanie w ciechocinku XDDDDDDD
2019-09-22 22:20
1h for sure, no one even like him, pasha,neo,taz, even byali left team cause of that trash.
2019-09-22 22:21
#29
JD | 
Poland misterr_ 
ja nie wierze ze ty to na serio piszeszXDDDDD kurwa @Hltv please give me option to ban this guy or mute him for me
2019-09-22 22:25
Why does this always happen in the Polish scene
2019-09-22 22:05
IDK.
2019-09-22 22:06
lost all respect for snax
2019-09-22 22:29
+1
2019-09-22 22:43
#35
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Poland SalamiXg0d 
srsly u probably lost ur house on betting on vp in the past, its like 3rd post in 2h hating them lol
2019-09-22 22:30
Nt meat.
2019-09-22 22:43
lmao on ppl hating on snax and blaming him in VP's problems. Snax was the noly reason they were still relevant. No wonder you suck balls when your 2nd best player is pasha. As soon as teams got used to csgo and to VP, they started losing hard. You all should praise snax for letting washed up legends get some money and medals in csgo
2019-09-22 23:24
LMAO byali was even better and more consistent than snax whole 2 years hltv.org/stats/players/compare/2553/Snax..
2019-09-22 23:26
#71
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Poland SalamiXg0d 
its 2018 not 2k19
2019-09-23 00:26
Cause byali and snax were in one team in 2k18 and 2017 and i mean that he was even better than snax?
2019-09-23 00:28
#74
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Poland SalamiXg0d 
how many times byali was in top 20 hltv? Once in 2k14. Snax was in 2014 2015 2016 2017. Byali was only better in the second half of 2k17 and early 2k18 because of snax igl.
2019-09-23 00:29
Because they always made him as a star player in VP? even he took awp in 2k15? or i don't remember also he had free hand and could play his own cs.
2019-09-23 00:31
and yes byali was better ofc youtube.com/watch?v=i8atquQdtkI
2019-09-23 00:31
#80
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Poland SalamiXg0d 
ofc he was better because he killed 3 guys once 3 yrs ago... srsly have no arguments and u only trashtalking. Get some help for real
2019-09-23 01:30
nt byali was best aimer in Poland most of the time.
2019-09-23 01:45
#91
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Australia Ohnorepo 
Your argument is horribly short sighted. Snax was set up to take over as the star player in late 2015 when Pasha started to really lose form. He was in that team to frag, and the team helped him reach those heights. While IM_DEAD has also got some pretty short sighted arguments, one of his original points still stand. Byali was more consistent over their horrible slump starting in 2017.
2019-09-23 12:04
LUL
2019-09-23 15:29
#67
b0RUP | 
Denmark Gryde 
SNAXE?
2019-09-22 23:48
yes
2019-09-22 23:51
#83
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Korea MadnessUsage 
What is god his name from Snax. Unbelievebl=3
2019-09-23 07:23
Overrated
2019-09-23 10:40
Neo is humble as always. In all of his career, even when he was the best in the world he will NEVER badmouth his teammates. So when luq had a fallout with taz or when taz had a fallout with loord, he never took sides and took them on equally as friends even when, being THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD, he had all that leverage. You can see the difference between the GOAT and the toxic noob. To force NEO out of all people to say something bad about snax highlights how BAD Snax is as a player. Snax will NEVER be as good as Neo, not even close
2019-09-23 10:45
+1
2019-09-23 11:59
Taz and Neo refused his advances or trying to eat them. So he got mad.
2019-09-23 11:29
Omegalul
2019-09-23 12:00
#94
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Ukraine ksay 
idk for the last 2 years snax proved to everyone how trash he is
2019-09-23 22:29
+1
2019-09-23 23:10
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