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Top 10 IGL in csgo
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Europe ROMAG 
Top 10 igl for you
2019-09-27 20:04
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1. GLA1VE
2019-09-27 20:04
0. JAME
2019-09-27 20:05
2019-09-29 13:31
Reply needs to have actual content
2019-09-27 20:09
#13
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
yes the content is gla1ve so
2019-09-27 20:10
#183
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
??? What? This clip was about nothing. Just normal round. Nothing about gla1ve
2019-09-29 12:52
#188
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
that's your opinion! opinions dosen't matters
2019-09-29 13:01
#200
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
No, thats fact
2019-09-29 13:21
#201
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
no my dear its your opinion :)
2019-09-29 13:21
#202
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
Ok so tell me your "opinion" What important happend there?
2019-09-29 13:24
#204
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
the clip say all if you can't notice it mean that you have 0 awarness about what is hapening so better shut your feelings and let real people talk ps : my gramar is bad but you can understand it 2000%
2019-09-29 13:25
#205
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
0/8 No, all gla1ve did was just that he got some shots through smoke and thats all.
2019-09-29 13:26
#209
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
haaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa like i said 0 awarness about the topic don't talk
2019-09-29 13:28
#214
frozen | 
Czech Republic Cuki_ 
Asia brain, you dont even live in any country
2019-09-29 13:30
#218
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
check sec 18
2019-09-29 13:34
Well could u explain what is so special happening in that round?
2019-10-01 09:20
#291
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
buy cheat then you will explain it to yourself
2019-10-01 15:00
#54
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India Noobdian1 
What
2019-09-27 20:39
wrong comment srry
2019-09-28 03:10
#179
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Israel Trust_me_bro 
wut
2019-09-29 12:46
nitro the best of all time
2019-09-27 20:05
#38
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
nah
2019-09-27 20:26
retard spotted
2019-09-27 20:46
hahahahaha fakeflagger
2019-09-27 20:48
nope
2019-09-27 21:03
0/8
2019-09-28 03:10
Obvious 0/8.
2019-09-28 12:31
stop reading at flag
2019-09-28 14:15
#154
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Finland JUGi_3foot2 
who is that? ok so i googled him, he is some NA joke xaxaxa
2019-09-28 14:35
0/8
2019-09-28 17:10
0/8
2019-09-29 12:44
-8/8
2019-09-29 14:52
> Best Igl > Rating under 0.5
2019-09-29 15:14
Name one igl (tier 1 teams) with higher rating than nitr0 the last 12 months.
2019-10-10 16:55
> Best IGL > Best Rating do you know the difference?
2019-10-10 16:59
#247
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Russia Ypp1 
0/8
2019-09-29 15:41
2.Karrigan
2019-09-27 20:05
0/8 OMEGALUL
2019-09-28 12:30
Hungarian IGL achievements 404 error not found
2019-09-29 13:57
#307
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Hungary sndtheartist 
What about jews? 666 error found
2019-10-10 17:10
+1
2019-09-29 15:14
#5
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Nitro
2019-09-27 20:05
Top 5 for sure
2019-09-29 13:10
#6
karrigan | 
France TopiKy 
Ex6TenZ
2019-09-27 20:05
#153
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
Yeah!
2019-09-28 14:35
nt ex6 acc
2019-09-29 14:00
#236
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
2019-09-29 15:09
nt TenZ fan. but ok
2019-09-29 15:47
#252
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
2019-09-29 17:33
1. nitr0 2. stanislaw 3. gla1ve
2019-09-27 20:06
flag
2019-09-27 20:27
Checks
2019-09-27 20:29
#44
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Europe ROMAG 
Out
2019-09-27 20:31
#45
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Canada Abolition 
out
2019-09-27 20:32
Oot
2019-09-29 13:43
nitr0 and stanislaw better than gla1ve and karrigan ? wtf??
2019-09-29 13:07
far better
2019-09-29 18:57
#308
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Bulgaria overflowl33t 
nitr0 XDDDDDDDDDDDDD hHAHAAHAH
2019-10-10 17:17
#8
Edward | 
Europe N3sHie1k 
1. gla1ve 2. nitr0 3. Zeus
2019-09-27 20:06
+1
2019-09-29 12:51
1.Shox 2.nitr0 3.gla1ve 4.Fallen 5.karrigan 6.stanislaw 7.Zeus
2019-09-27 20:08
#36
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United States jaeger_steam 
6/7 nice b8
2019-09-27 20:24
Stopped reading at shox
2019-09-27 21:11
#125
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India AragorN_xyz 
+1 Blind shox fan spotted
2019-09-28 09:24
Remove stanislaw, Zeus and even Karrigan, their fragging abilities are subpar to the others, for an IGL to be good in 2019 you need them to do better. IMO
2019-09-28 03:13
Fuck off with that shit. Dumbasses have been saying that forever and it has still never been true Besides a few outliers like 2016 Fallen and 2014 Happy, Good IGL's will always be shit aimers, no matter what. The IGLs in the best teams will just have inflated stats, because if your team is winning you'll get more easy eco kills etc
2019-09-29 13:25
Calm down. Of course I speak the truth. When SK had their good run Fallen was an AWP'ing phenom. That you deny the truth tells me you are blind. =) Let's see the final, maybe i'll eat my words lols
2019-09-29 20:43
our both baiting and not at thesame time
2019-09-28 17:11
0/8 shox
2019-09-29 13:54
Why so much hate?
2019-09-29 15:34
without ranking them (currently) MSL, nitr0, gla1ve, stanislaw, aleksiB, ALEX, Karrigan, AZR, Fallen, nexa
2019-09-27 20:09
Nexa??? He hasn't achieved anything yet though Not saying he's bad or anything but all those other igls have won something significant
2019-09-27 20:11
yeah fair enough. Just think he is sick in-game and calling wise at the moment. Really curious to see what he can do in G2
2019-09-27 20:14
Yeah I'm curious too he does have a lot of potential forsure
2019-09-27 20:15
#122
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Australia g00sey 
And what has AZR won as an IGL?
2019-09-28 09:19
#128
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Slovenia laquazz 
azr made the legend status twice in his rookie year of being an igl, nexa didnt make the playoffs in one significant tournament once
2019-09-28 09:26
#130
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Australia g00sey 
I'm not comparing the two. The other guy just said every other igl has won something when the only tourney renegades won, nifty was igl at the time
2019-09-28 09:38
#135
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Australia MajiC 
if placements is all you care about then why dont you argue against MSL? 6 years as an IGL with premier talents (at its peak at the end of 2016 rolling into 2017 two top ten players) and he has 2 tiier one titles and 2 major playoffs, both ending in the quarters, choking one and getting upset in the other, AZR in one year with one truly legit player has made a very respectful amount of playoffs and a top four at a major, further than MSL has ever gotten, haviing said that MSL is clearly a better IGL but not purely off his placings, that never defines an IGL Now i personally wouldnt put AZR on the list, i think much like when nifty was IGL he is just Kassads muse (admittedly he isnt terrible like nifty was) but that criteria is moronic
2019-09-28 11:45
#136
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Australia g00sey 
Jesus christ the triggered fanboys because I was just questioning the other guy. "but all those other igls have won something significant" That's all I was replying to - not making a statement about the quality of AZR as an IGL Did I call him bad? Did I say anything about renegades as a team? fuck off and learn to read
2019-09-28 12:29
#140
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Australia MajiC 
Ok you clearly cant read..... your prior comment implies that to be a good in game leader you need to win, i was stating thats is obviously not true
2019-09-28 14:09
#157
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Australia g00sey 
how cunt? I said I was replying to his comment that everyone but nexa has won shit as an IGL, it's simply not true
2019-09-28 17:08
MSL? what the fuck did he do to get on this list haha
2019-09-28 14:33
#14
tabseN | 
Germany rdck 
1. gla1ve 2. Fallen 3. nitr0 4. Zeus 5. NEO 6. karrigan 7. shox 8. gob b 9. aleksiB 10. NBK
2019-09-27 20:11
#17
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
imagine not mentioning fallen
2019-09-27 20:10
#47
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Canada Abolition 
bait or blind??
2019-09-27 20:33
#53
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
he edited lmao
2019-09-27 20:38
#171
tabseN | 
Germany rdck 
True, my bad
2019-09-29 12:31
imo 1. fallen 2.gla1ve 3. neo 4.karrigan 5.zeus
2019-09-27 21:05
pronax
2019-09-27 21:05
shouldn't Taz be there instead of NEO?
2019-09-29 13:41
#226
tabseN | 
Germany rdck 
TaZ has been the IGL for VP for a long time, you´re right. But NEO was the IGL that VP really found success with and that individually was one of the top players as well.
2019-09-29 13:51
#268
blacK | 
Namibia Toonga 
azr isnt that bad tbh.
2019-09-30 20:36
#273
tabseN | 
Germany rdck 
Oh yeah, true. But he is not a Top 10 IGL yet I would say, he could be in the future if he keeps adding up to the good standings that the Renegades had in the past year.
2019-09-30 23:34
1. Gla1ve 2. Nitr0 3. Fallen
2019-09-27 20:10
1) glaive rest who cars
2019-09-27 20:11
i lamborghini
2019-09-27 20:30
i ferrari
2019-09-28 11:40
#18
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
FalleN
2019-09-27 20:11
in no order::: zeus nitro gla1ve karrigan ex6tenz(?) pronax señor vac xizt fallen neo special mentions: gob b, aleksib, nbk, shox, msl, nexa, azr, alex, stanislaw, s1mple(?)
2019-09-27 20:14
8/8
2019-09-29 13:18
#21
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Finland Faifainei 
1. allu rest irrelevant
2019-09-27 20:12
#32
FalleN | 
Brazil Tablari 
alul ?
2019-09-27 20:19
#79
arT | 
Brazil Doug_CeL 
bot allu
2019-09-27 21:09
#94
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Denmark OscarGF 
Flag mens))
2019-09-28 03:06
flag checks out
2019-09-28 03:07
lol
2019-09-29 13:55
#22
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Lithuania rohall 
1. Gla1ve 2. pronax 3. Fallen 4. Xizt 5. NEO 6. Zeus 7. NBK 8. nitr0 9. karrigan 10. AZR (maybe not the most achieved but has managed to stay relevant with Renegades in top 30 for a long time)
2019-09-27 20:13
#46
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Europe ROMAG 
Loled ok Neo and nbk
2019-09-27 20:33
#56
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Lithuania rohall 
loled at NEO? n1
2019-09-27 20:39
#61
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Europe ROMAG 
Ofc when vi das good, taz the IGL
2019-09-27 20:47
#62
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Lithuania rohall 
u sure about that
2019-09-27 20:47
#70
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Europe ROMAG 
Vp was good, yes, they only changed when vp das in slump
2019-09-27 21:01
#73
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Poland sh0tdown 
LOL NO Neo lead Them to win major katowice 2014 and neo almost let them won major in boston ur wrong, neo has also an impact unlike niko when he plays igl he can focus on 2 things
2019-09-27 21:06
#78
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Europe ROMAG 
My bad you're right they only changed in 2017 or16
2019-09-27 21:08
#83
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Europe ROMAG 
You could check who is calling in esl katowice 2015 ago os camping um vp, Since you understand polish
2019-09-27 21:14
#84
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Poland sh0tdown 
i think it was taz for this event actually becouse when neo had problems they were changing igl
2019-09-27 21:16
#85
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Poland sh0tdown 
but after they got neo cuz taz wasn't working tho until 2017 when it kinda started working kinda not
2019-09-27 21:17
#126
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India AragorN_xyz 
Karrigan>>>>>neo
2019-09-28 09:25
-nbk +jame Put neo lower and it's a good list +1
2019-09-28 14:38
#23
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Turkey TrMan4161 
Gla1ve Karrigan Jame Zeus Ange1 Stanislaw Nitro Fallen Maj3r Neo
2019-09-27 20:14
#24
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Brazil hegium 
Of all time: 1 - gla1ve 2 - pronax 3 - FalleN 4 - Zeus 5 - nitr0 6 - karrigan 7/8 - Ex6TenZ 8/7 - MSL 9 - seangares 10 - gob b or stanislaw
2019-09-27 20:15
#161
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Albania GreenDog 
Of all time - no. Zeus won more majord
2019-09-28 17:36
#295
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Brazil hegium 
? Reply needs to have actual content
2019-10-04 20:19
#297
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Albania GreenDog 
Zeus won 5 Majors in general. liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Counter-Str..
2019-10-05 08:23
#301
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Brazil hegium 
Maybe I wasn't clear. I meant all time in CSGO. People tend to forget players who had impact 2 ~ 3 years ago.
2019-10-10 16:50
That's a perfect list.
2019-09-29 12:36
solid
2019-09-30 21:11
where's happy btw...
2019-10-10 16:59
#309
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Brazil hegium 
not sure about his contribution as a IGL. it always looked the same thing every round. he was lucky to have a skilled team on point.
2019-10-10 22:21
That's true... the French scene was so talented at that time. (Not anymore lol)
2019-10-10 22:40
#312
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Brazil hegium 
F
2019-10-10 23:17
1.shox 2.amanek 3.kenny 4.zywoo 5.jackz
2019-09-27 20:14
Fake flag detected.
2019-09-27 20:31
don't you know, India loves French cs?
2019-09-27 20:33
Like brittons in fact.
2019-09-27 20:33
#180
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France skeudy 
love u too bro
2019-09-29 12:49
<3
2019-09-29 13:41
1)Daps cuz he builds from scratch 2)Zeus capable of wining a major with non starts ( stars have ego's) 3)Golden excellent mid round caller 4) Glaive 5)Karrigan 6)Gobb excellent ct setups 7) Fallen them 5 v 5 retakes 8)stanislaw fragging avg tactician 9)alexib/neo 10)Azr
2019-09-27 20:15
#118
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Brazil baldok1 
>stan >fragging ok.
2019-09-28 03:20
he is fragging well since hes in NRG/EG
2019-10-01 09:13
#29
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France FlakeFag 
1. NiKo
2019-09-27 20:15
#31
TenZ | 
Canada tempOcs 
1. gla1ve 2. nitr0 3. FalleN/Xizt 4. Xizt/ FalleN 5. shoxie 6. NEO 7. Karrigan/Zeus 8. Zeus/Karrigan 9. tarik 10. NBK-
2019-09-27 20:18
rn gla1ve Jame stanislaw nitr0 MSL nexa FalleN Jerry Lekr0 arT
2019-09-27 20:22
elemeNt
2019-09-27 20:24
#35
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Serbia d1ckson 
No 1 nexa
2019-09-27 20:24
1. gla1ve 2. aleksib 3. arvid 4. nitr0 5. Jame 6. Sunny 7. Nexa 8. Fallen 9. Neo 10. GTR
2019-09-27 20:25
10.shox 9.cold 8.gtr 7.pasha 6.sunny 5.pimp 4.kio 3.olof 2.rain 1.NIKO
2019-09-27 20:28
yes
2019-09-27 21:06
Ex6TenZ, gob b, Fallen, glaive, karrigan, MSL, Zeus, blade, seangares, stanislaw
2019-09-27 20:34
#51
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Sweden fazeBOIS 
1.niko - - - - - - - - 2. glave 3. karrigan
2019-09-27 20:36
xaxaxa losing to optic
2019-09-27 21:27
#97
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Denmark OscarGF 
Lmao. Fantastic comment.
2019-09-28 03:08
3.14/8
2019-09-28 14:36
#160
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Sweden fazeBOIS 
pi
2019-09-28 17:34
#52
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
1.gla1ve 2.karrigan 3.MSL 4.Aleksib 5.gob b idk
2019-09-27 20:37
TAZ
2019-09-27 20:39
#57
pronax | 
Russia ShadTH 
GODNAX
2019-09-27 20:39
#58
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Pakistan LoOuU2 
I started watching in 2017 , since than my mentions in no order would be : Glaive , Karrigan , Fallen , Zeus , Aleksib, Nitro , AZR. Can't think of anyone else tbh
2019-09-27 20:40
1. Karrigan 2. Gob B 3. NBK 4. Fallen 5. MSL 6. Nexa 7. Gla1ve 8. ALEX 9. AleksiB 10. Ex6tenz I'm pretty sure about the top 5, not at all about below that.
2019-09-27 20:45
u forgot Zeus, so 1. Karrigan 2. Zeus 3. Gob b
2019-09-27 20:53
Fair, but not that high. Maybe between NBK and Fallen. Though that is weird, because I always thought of MSL as a top 5 IGL but I can't really put him above Fallen. And actually, if we're talking about 1.6 IGLs cArn might be top 1.
2019-09-27 21:00
#98
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Denmark OscarGF 
MSL above Gla1ve, lmao.
2019-09-28 03:08
Gla1ve hasn't proven he can lead well in general. Only that he can lead Astralis. MSL has had multiple successful teams, that's better proof than leading one team to the top spot.
2019-09-28 09:30
"multiple successful teams" Lmao
2019-09-29 13:05
More so than Gla1ve for sure. He's gotten a lot of players much higher in the ranking than they should have been, that's what defines a great IGL.
2019-09-29 17:39
A "successful team" is defined by its success, it's literally the definition of the word Rogue was a failure Optic is a failure But who cares, all an IGL has to do it's changing team a few times and post on twitter "we will become a top team, trust me", who even cares about good results anyway? "He's gotten a lot of players much higher in the ranking than they should have been," Absolutely, like Magisk, who was kicked by North and under gla1ve became a major mvp and top5 player in the world
2019-09-29 17:51
Gla1ve only successful team has been Astralis. Magisk was always pretty good, just not "major MPV material". The large amount of complete randoms MSL has brought up to top 15 teams are a lot more impressive than 4 players from top 10 to top 1. MSL compared to Gla1ve, if you exaggerate it is like Karrigan bringing random Woxic to being considered the best AWPer in the world compared to NiKo bringing Olof, Cold and himself from once best players in the world to falling out of the top 10.
2019-09-29 20:02
Calling astralis successful, when your definition of successful is being top15 material, is extremely reductive, he is the mind behind the greatest team of all time He succeeded whereas karrigan, the greatest igl in history in your list, failed multiple and multiple times, with the same lineup, at his first major But why would anyone care about wasting years of the best trio of all time when you could bring a random (lmao) woxic to a top10 team? Next time compare him to niko in the first comment so I know how biased you are from the start
2019-09-29 20:19
0/8 ?????????????
2019-09-28 03:13
gla1ve
2019-09-27 20:49
1. Stanislaw 2. Tarik 3. lawisStan 4. Turok 5. That one guy on Astralis 6. Astralis Coach 7. Anyone not on Lulquid 8. Not Fallen 9. Seangares 10. Niko
2019-09-27 20:49
+1 me like
2019-09-28 11:42
#66
halo | 
United States fraus 
im a pretty decent IGL in mm (silver 4). I mean i can make a decent amount of callouts and calls
2019-09-27 20:50
1. Gla1ve 2. Nitro 3. Karrigan 99. NiKo
2019-09-27 20:50
#131
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Sweden fazeBOIS 
nah fam niko top1
2019-09-28 11:33
Niko
2019-09-27 21:07
#77
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Poland dreamShow 
1. gla1ve 2. nitr0 3. fallen 4. pronax 5. zeus 6. msl 7. neo 8. karrigan 9. ex6tenz 10. ange1
2019-09-27 21:07
#80
shox | 
Germany Dr_Lurchi 
1) gla1ve/FalleN 2) Nitr0 3) pronax 4) karrigan/Zeus . . . . 999)NiKo
2019-09-27 21:10
neo goat igl 8 majors rest is irrelevant
2019-09-27 21:12
#86
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Poland damian260700 
1. nitr0 2. stanislaw
2019-09-27 21:18
flag and flair doesn’t check out wtf men
2019-09-28 03:05
#108
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Canada Michaelides 
Well, stanislaw has Polish descent at least.
2019-09-28 03:13
1. gla1ve 2. HUNDEN 3. Zeus 4. Fallen 5. karrigan 6. Stanislaw 7. Aleksib 8. MSL 9. gob b 10. Nitro
2019-09-27 21:25
#102
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United States fatburger 
Hunden only #2?
2019-09-28 03:11
Where would you put him? And I forgot blameF, so Nitro gotta go :D
2019-09-29 13:09
#258
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United States fatburger 
#1 obviously wtf
2019-09-29 19:45
#89
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Poland C4ctusjack_ 
1 Pronax/Gla1ve 2 Gla1ve/Pronax 3 Zeus 4 Karrigan 5 Gob B 6 Ex6TenZ 7 Fallen 8 MSL 9Nitro 10 stanislaw
2019-09-27 21:29
karrigan gla1ve nitr0 fallen msl stanislaw pronax gob b aleksib zeus they are not in order except for the top 2
2019-09-27 21:56
#91
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United Kingdom KainZ 
Gla1ve (GOAT) Pronax Fallen Karrigan Stanislaw/tarik (wombo combo) These are my favourites anyway. :D
2019-09-28 03:02
1-10 - gla1ve, nobody else comes close. if you need any proof just look at how hard he baited liquid into playing overpass and the 200iq vertigo pick at berlin. also knocks liquid out early by throwing vs nrg/eg. and he’s not even a bad fragger. /closed
2019-09-28 03:04
Zonic has more credit on pick and vetos than gla1ve.
2019-09-28 03:18
fair +1 tho gla1ve still a mastermind. he can actually call good strats and enables his team to play well
2019-09-28 03:20
ye, absolutely gla1ve is top1 IGL on CSGO...
2019-09-28 09:08
#96
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China Blitzer 
atm ? aleksib azr fallen glaive jame jerry karrigan nitro stan valde no specific order
2019-09-28 03:07
#99
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Denmark OscarGF 
HUNDEN /closed
2019-09-28 03:09
#103
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United States fatburger 
No one listing GOD HUNDEN smh
2019-09-28 03:11
1. gla1ve 2. pronax 3. FalleN 4. Zeus 5. karrigan
2019-09-28 03:13
Zeus better than fallen but I agree with u
2019-10-05 18:33
#106
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Brazil bernog 
atm 1-gla1ve 2-ALEX 3-nitr0 4-stanislaw 5-Jerry 6-karrigan 7-nexa 8-Jame 9-blameFFF 10-AZR
2019-09-28 03:13
gla1ve > nitro atm Liquid makes a lot of mistakes, and Astralis is far more tactically sound then Liquid
2019-09-28 03:14
#111
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Brazil bernog 
I forgot to put in order, I edited and changed it
2019-09-28 03:14
ok
2019-09-28 03:15
all time or right now?
2019-09-28 03:13
1. Gla1ve 2. Fallen 3. nitr0 4. Happy 5. Pronax
2019-09-28 03:16
happy is the worst, sends the whole team to one bombsite while he lurks the other. Tells them to go in, they all die and he gets 2 kills on rotating players from behind then flames his teammates for not winning while he is top fragging. His strats are just to get him stats, the games he wins are only against bad teams where his players get the entry kills and take the sites. Good teams know this and nowadays players know that they should be watching their backs for flanks so it doesnt even get him kills anymore. "On a B exexute? Gimmie 2 seconds then i'll rotate, just gotta wait for happy to try and make the hero play..." Think of the russian player who tells the team to rush B then hides in palace on mirage just to get 1 kill, 10/10 strat
2019-09-28 09:25
None of this is true during Happy's best 2 years. Happy played pretty aggressively from 2014/2015. He was the first IGL to win a major MVP, HLTV has always accounted for impact when they hand out MVP awards.
2019-09-28 23:29
yes, because his IGL style was based around setting himself up to get frags and make impact plays. He would send his teammates into a bombsite that he wasn't anywhere near so that he could lurk to get easy kills. The reason it worked so well back in '14 was that it wasn't so predictable back then, the past couple of years teams are wise to it as a playstyle and especially alert to it when facing players like happy. The same happened with fnatic during their era, they played more aggressive in post plant situations and continued to push after they had taken the bombsite. Retaking players weren't ready to have a fnatic player in their spawn in the post plant as they kept pushing. It takes a while for the meta to change to expect something like this, but once it does it becomes countered. Happy is just unable to adapt his playstyle and none of the french players want to be his bait anymore
2019-09-29 10:10
Lmao are you Thorin? youtube.com/watch?v=QlOkI9HQgic The only instances he lurked was when his teammates clearly had the bombsite. In a lot of rounds he'd be the one entrying with Shox. You literally sound exactly like Thorin, are you gonna tell me Ex6 is a great IGL next?
2019-09-29 11:03
lol, you havn't even watched the VOD, round 16 camps on short while team takes B and backstabs the retake, 17 pushes hard on long for eco frags vs pistols, 18 camps long for 1 minute straight then backstabs retaking players up short, 20 rushes for eco frags long but finds a clear bombsite, blind luck, 21 camps long while team pusjes short and plants backstabs retake through ct and dies etc etc. Idk why you linked this video, all it does is prove my point lol. He lurks on gun rounds while sending his team in blindly then vs eco rounds he sends them to the other side of the map and rushes vs the pistols. His whole gameplan is "run in and die so i can trade you or so i can shoot the long guy in the back" then against ecos it's "go to the other bombsite and plant and ill rush and get some kills"
2019-09-29 11:38
Yeah dude that's his role on the team, to lurk. The point is when his team needed him he was willing to push with Shox up short like at 25:50. The idea that Happy has been being carried his whole career is ridiculous, yeah I'm sure UZZZIII and Maniac were really carrying Happy lmao.
2019-09-29 22:21
I never said he gets carried haha, I said his igl style is based on setting himself up to get free kills rather than using his other players as anything other than bait. Most games he frags out because he tells his other 4 players to push places so he can free kills on rotaters. He always gets high kills but loses games because he doesn't have any tactical depth other than "push B and ill walk out A after" then either they have a chance to take B on the push or if he gets lurk kills they can try and rotate. The problem is because this is their only play as far as tactics go, nowadays teams know that he's a one trick pony. Just look at the scoreboard, see happy is still alive, wait for him to walk out A long like a bot and dink him. He cant adapt his playstyle so he's irrelevant now
2019-09-30 20:23
If you're just baiting for frags, you need the rest of your team to be extremely good. Old LDLC was not good at all. Do you think KQLY walls helped them that much? Lmao.
2019-09-30 23:53
Correct! old LDLC never won anything at all with happy apart from DH winter 2014, which was the same lineup that would become envyus and win a decent amount of events, with shox, kio, nbk and smithzz. Happy always had the best players in his team that would allow him to get away with these 50iq mm strats, they would bail him out with their aim. By contrast Happy has never won anything without either Shox or KennyS in his team along with other good players. The difference is a good IGL can raise the level of a team and upset matches with their teamplay and strategy. Happys igl style only works if he's surrounded by world class players, stick him in a mid/low tier team and it wont (and doesn't) work. By contrast, look at what Daps and stanislaw can do with NRG (now EG). None of their players are considered top 10 but they can win games and tourneys becuase they have a proficient igl who understands how to utilise their players
2019-10-01 15:36
Lmao old LDLC was a decent team, who cares if they didn't win anything? Has Mouz or G2 won anything recently? Nope. Happy had 2 absolute bots on his team and got decent placements.
2019-10-04 00:48
Okay, well i guess if the bar for a good team is as low as the number 6 and 7 rank teams in the world neither of whom made it past the quater finals in any tier of event in the last year then that makes them a "good team" lmao. Great argument my guy smh
2019-10-05 18:14
Except LDLC has made it to major semis and almost made it to the final. With UZZZIII and Maniac. Your argument is the bad one dude, your entire argument revolves around Happy playing with world class players, except it falls apart because Happy did well with UZZZIII and Maniac.
2019-10-05 18:32
Daps Stanislaw Device
2019-09-28 03:17
#148
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Hungary StraYzie 
-device -IGL Pick One
2019-09-28 14:24
#116
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Brazil JgzMcz 
1 - gla1ve 2. - aleksib 3 - fallen 4 - sranislaw 5 - karrigan 6 - shox 7 - zeus
2019-09-28 03:19
Glave Fallen Zeus Karringan Nitro AleksiB
2019-09-28 03:22
niko best igl 😎😎😎👍👍👍
2019-09-28 09:13
gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve gla1ve
2019-09-28 09:22
#127
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Russia f0wlie2 
zeus obviously
2019-09-28 09:25
Glaive Nitro Stanislaw? HUNDEN jame Aleksib Karrigan Tarik (kinda igl) Kinda hard to come up with more xD even felt desperate adding Tarik to reach 10 (which I didn't) First 7 I am sure of tho
2019-09-28 11:40
#139
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India asteroid2k 
1.Glaive 2.Karrigan 3.Nitro 4.AleksiB 5.Zeus 6.Stanislaw 7.Fallen 8.Alex 9.Tarik 10.AZR
2019-09-28 12:38
#141
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Turkey i_eat_kebab 
1. NiKo 2. NEO 3. Karrigan
2019-09-28 14:10
flair checks out
2019-09-29 13:28
#142
shox | 
Italy DaDoar 
at this time 1- Gla1ve 2-Nitr0 3-Karrigan 4-ALEX 5-Jame 6-AZR 7-V4lde 8-Stanislaw 9-AmaNEK 10-FalleN all-time best IGLs 1-Karrigan 2-Zeus 3-Pronax 4-Happy 5-Xizt 6-FalleN 7-NEO 8-Gob B 9-Daps 10-Hiko
2019-09-28 14:13
#147
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Hungary StraYzie 
-Hiko -IGL Pick one
2019-09-28 14:24
so gla1ve and nitro arent in the all time list?
2019-09-29 13:28
WHY STUPID YOU ASK 10 IGL AND WE WRITE IT THEN YOU ALL NOT ACCEPT THAT SO IS THAT A IGL WHO PLAYING RIGHT NOW AND RETIRE YOU THINK WHO AGAIN ??
2019-09-28 14:16
Why so mad?
2019-09-28 14:29
#145
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Finland EZ4ALEKSIB 
Aleksib0b top 1
2019-09-28 14:18
#146
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Hungary StraYzie 
#1 gla1ve #2 Karrigan #3 nitr0 #4 stanislaw #5 FalleN #6 ChrisJ #7 ALEX #8 Jame #9 Aleksib #10 HUNDEN
2019-09-28 14:23
1. Hunden 2. Ocean
2019-09-28 14:28
#152
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Belgium Ex6TenZz 
#1 Ex6TenZ most handsome player and best IGL
2019-09-28 14:34
#162
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Albania GreenDog 
You all forget ZEUS
2019-09-28 17:39
#163
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United States basiliskk 
Suprised noone has said steel yet, even though he hasent achieved much hes brought up a lot of teams from down under. iBUYPOWER run was great(Not all him though), Torqued had a good few runs and his prize child Ghost team was extremely impressive. Reminds of me a daps team maker but that can actually frag
2019-09-28 17:43
1. gla1ve 2. Happy 3. FalleN 4. nitr0 5. Aleksib All the rest are pretty much equal. Not worthy mentioning after these.
2019-09-29 11:07
Pronax?
2019-09-29 12:38
Not good enough.
2019-09-29 12:38
No one remember pronax... 1.glaive - 4 major 2.pronax -3 major 4.fallen - 3 major 5.happy -2 major 6.zeus -1 major
2019-09-29 11:14
zeus 2 majors
2019-09-29 13:11
serious?
2019-09-29 13:27
as serious as #168 saying fallen 3 major
2019-09-29 13:29
weirdo
2019-09-29 13:29
fallen 3 times major winner btw
2019-09-29 13:31
Zeus 2 major really? Navi never won any major bro
2019-09-29 18:54
You guys are assholes not to mention TaZ in your lists. My Top 5 (most recently): 1. Gla1ve 2. Aleksib 3. Nitr0 4. Stanislaw 5. Jame My Top 5 (of all time) 1. TaZ/NEO 2. Zeus 3. FalleN 4. Gla1ve 5. Pronax Sean Gaers and MSL are honorable mentions. Also, back in the day, CS's in-game experience at the professional circuit was way different than how it is at this very moment. Coaches could literally give out calls mid round to help the players, until early 2017. So whoever is owning the IGL role, is killing it right now.
2019-09-29 12:06
why gla1ve only 4th of all time? imo gla1ve is above all in every list here.
2019-09-29 13:26
I just feel that even though his individual ability is pitch perfect, Zonic has been a very big part of his IGL career. Hence the 4th place. I mean, with all due respect, MSL is considered like a born leader, like Stanislaw or Daps but he's never got a constant support system at all, at first it was Ruggah, then Aves, then Ruggah again, with shuffled rosters. Thanks for the constructive criticism though my G
2019-09-30 07:14
"Zonic has been a very big part of his IGL career" so you know that a coach does and what not? gla1ve is undeniable the best IGL of all time, also I like how you put NEO/Taz up there. gla1ve is better in calling strats and individually. he also had way more succes than any other, and that without pure aim.
2019-09-30 14:25
Again, why is he good in calling strats in game? Because he's always reading from the book of his when he needs to mix things up. How does he do that? Who helps him? Can you make a guess? Is it an apple? Or an orange? You're smart, you'll know. If you don't then just read the first "copypasta" line of your reply.
2019-10-01 08:29
1. gla1ve 2. Zeus 3. karrigan Others can be placed in any order
2019-09-29 12:36
1. gla1ve 2. FalleN 3. TaZ/NEO 4. Zeus 5. pronax 6. AleksiB 7. Stanislaw 8. karrigan 9. shox 10. nitr0
2019-09-29 12:36
#175
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Netherlands BigMarvin 
ChrisJ
2019-09-29 12:37
#181
shrek | 
New Zealand is_love 
NiKo
2019-09-29 12:50
#184
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Europe loonek4 
1 .Gla1ve 2. AleksiB 3. Nitr0 4. stan/imapet 5. Karrigan 6. Alex 7. jaime 8. nexa 9. Fallen 10 Hunden
2019-09-29 12:53
stanislaw , karrigan , gla1ve, tarik
2019-09-29 12:54
#186
NiKo | 
China ygxdlb 
Niko the lmao
2019-09-29 12:58
Taking down the achievements the best IGL's at the moment 1.Gla1ve 2. nitr0 3.stanislaw 4.karrigan 5.Alex 6-10 notable IGL's 6.pronax 7.FalleN 8.Taz 9.Ange1 10.Happy (of course he isn't decent for long time) I can understand why some of you might not agree but hey this is my personal list
2019-09-29 12:59
#189
fer | 
Portugal Waakh 
1- gla1ve 2- Fallen 3- Pronax 4- Zeus 5- Nitr0 6- Karrigan 7- MSL 8- Gob b 9- Aleksib 10- Stanislaw
2019-09-29 13:04
zeus last place - noob
2019-09-29 13:06
kid XD nice bait
2019-09-29 13:08
kid your father ukrop donniy
2019-09-29 15:17
go to school XD
2019-09-29 15:29
your father in
2019-09-29 15:46
1. fallen
2019-09-29 13:08
#198
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Slovakia Georgy10 
1. Gla1ve 2. Nitro 3. Karrigan 4. Zeus(when he played) 5. Aleksib 6. ALEX 7. MSL 8. Stanislaw 9. ChrisJ 10. TaZ
2019-09-29 13:15
#208
smooya | 
United Kingdom diniho 
Gla1ve top 1 is all that's important
2019-09-29 13:28
1. Gla1ve Rest doesnt matter
2019-09-29 13:30
glai1ve, thats it.
2019-09-29 13:39
Best for me would be - gla1ve, taz, pronax
2019-09-29 13:39
#221
Boombl4 | 
Other Viin 
Gla1ve Stan nitr0
2019-09-29 13:40
#225
JW | 
Denmark limsaitama 
1. gla1ve 2. stanislaw 3. taz(goat)
2019-09-29 13:44
1. ANGE1 2. HUNDEN 3. Xizt
2019-09-29 13:52
Jame
2019-09-29 14:00
without ranking: gla1ve, zeus, msl, fallen, pronax, karrigan, nitr0, taz
2019-09-29 14:04
I dont think what one igl can be best for much different teams
2019-09-29 14:58
gla1ve, Zeus, karrigan, FalleN, stanislaw, nitr0, aleksib in no order.
2019-09-29 15:20
1. zywoo
2019-09-29 15:15
#244
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France Malo0o 
-pronax -glaive -fallen -zeus -karrigan -taz -xizt -shox
2019-09-29 15:35
Hunden
2019-09-29 15:38
1. gla1ve (2018-2019) 2. FalleN (2016-2017) 3. pronax (2014-2015) 4. Zeus (2012-2019) 5. karrigan (2015-2017) 6. Happy (2014-2015) 7. MSL (2017) 8. nitr0 (2019) 9. Xizt (2012-2013) 10. AleksiB (2019)
2019-09-29 15:40
+1
2019-09-29 17:11
#251
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Russia HoLZeD 
NiKo
2019-09-29 17:13
1) gla1ve 2) karrigan 3) valde 4) msl 5) blamef 6) hunden 7) maj3r 8) who vroom vrooms
2019-09-29 19:01
rn: aleksib nitro alex glaive stanislaw rest who cars
2019-09-30 20:32
#267
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Germany IIGNITE 
bot b
2019-09-30 20:33
#269
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North America pieisgood186 
Happy that people are noticing Jerry as a good IGL. I think the consistency is still lacking but they are a solid Tier 2 team.
2019-09-30 20:36
#270
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Denmark Zaerdna 
Gla1ve >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
2019-09-30 20:37
#271
TaZ | 
Poland Czeczen 
1. TaZ and dont even bother arguing
2019-09-30 21:07
gla1ve (helped team win 4 majors after only being a stand-in at cologne 2016) fallen (best igl ever imo) seangares (classic na legend, watermelon brain) tarik (led cloud9 to major) stanislaw (is just too good and underrated) zeus (made gambit to spite navi but then joined them like an idiot) pronax (only good swedish igl ever, idk where he is now)
2019-10-01 08:36
1. Xizt 2. TenZ 3. Ex6TenZ
2019-10-01 08:48
#278
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Italy italianparty 
hunden??
2019-10-01 08:53
#279
NAF | 
Germany KoalaZZZ 
1. ex6tenz 2. zeus 3. stanislaw 4. gla1ve 5. fallen 6. nitr0 7. karrigan 8. taz 9. pronax 10. gob b
2019-10-01 08:57
#280
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France DirtyPerez 
Now : gla1ve Aleksib MSL HUNDEN davidp All-time : gla1ve pronax Fallen Karrigan MSL
2019-10-01 08:59
#281
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Finland SininenMF 
1. xarte 2. allu 3. nsub 4. twista 5. saw
2019-10-01 09:02
#282
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Ireland DaFlame 
Gla1ve Karrigan AlexsiB Nitr0 Fallen Stanislaw Daps Valdez AmanEK Alex
2019-10-01 09:03
#283
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Ireland DaFlame 
Right now at least
2019-10-01 09:03
#284
KRIMZ | 
Poland krwc 
byali
2019-10-01 09:08
#286
f0rest | 
Spain jeyolo 
Fnatic Pronax >>>>> all.
2019-10-01 09:17
#288
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India zCalibeRz 
gla1ve karrigan daps nitr0 happy stanislaw fallen pronax MSL ALEX in no particular order
2019-10-01 09:25
1) gla1ve 2) gla1ve 3) gla1ve 4) gla1ve 5) gla1ve 6) gla1ve 7) gla1ve 8) gla1ve 9) gla1ve 10) nitr0
2019-10-01 09:26
1. Glaive 2. Karrigan 3. Aleksib 4. nitro 5. alex 6. stanislaw 7. fallen 8. amanek 9. jame 10. me
2019-10-01 09:39
#294
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Denmark HuntDK 
GOD HUNDEN /closed
2019-10-04 01:11
1.gla1ve 2.pronax 3.fallen 4.karrigan 5. xizt 6.taz 7.nitr0 8.zeus 9.aleksib 10.ALEX
2019-10-04 20:53
#303
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Russia Blyatmen 
1. gla1ve 2. fallen 3. pronax 4. zeus 5. taz 6. nitr0 7. happy 8. xizt 9. jame 10. aleksib
2019-10-10 16:56
#306
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Europe thaifinnen 
gla1ve fallen pronax karrigan happy zeus nitro taz
2019-10-10 17:07
Glaive Nitro Pronax Happy fallen Alexib Zeus Stanislaw Golden
2019-10-10 22:32
1. Niko 2. Gla1ve 3. karrigan 4. nitro 5. Fallen
2019-10-10 23:21
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