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Faroe Islands asssss1 
Sorry I'm internet explorer so only just now saw the new cache what the actual fuck is this shit? so fucking garbage fortnite color styles loooooooooooooooooooooool FMPONE SO BAD LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
2019-10-01 03:27
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2019-10-01 03:29
#105
Nifty | 
Turkey G4Z01 
De_graSS with communist fucks never ever want to play map again
2019-10-01 10:40
you cant play it* thats why i love it cus finally all beggars cant play it
2019-10-01 13:37
#137
Nifty | 
Turkey G4Z01 
ohh Canada yes scared of dark
2019-10-01 13:57
Looks like aztec
2019-10-01 19:13
#209
Nifty | 
Turkey G4Z01 
lol I miss Aztec and militia
2019-10-01 19:17
#245
SANJI | 
Qatar skippr 
[+1] total bo kk
2019-10-02 17:39
rofl
2019-10-02 15:58
#3
Twistzz | 
United States LEMQN 
Changes are coming, relax.
2019-10-01 03:38
imagine hyping up your map so hard and then its fucking garbage downgrade LUL
2019-10-01 03:43
#15
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
garbage what types of changes did you expect fmpone to do? did you wanted him to remake all the map like new cbble? he only updated the visuals of the map, changed and added some places to balence the map. cache has been always equal sided and so he didnt made that mcuh changes.
2019-10-01 04:00
+1 a remake should be a reskin and maybe a couple of changes something like changing the whole map is like a v2 of the map
2019-10-01 05:19
#40
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
there is no need for reskins, especially garbage fortnite ones apparently he spent 4k hours on this shit lmao, while someone made a new cache in like 2 days ive seen so many better maps done in such less time, fmpone if he is serious about spending 4k hours on this is the most overrated mapper ever
2019-10-01 05:27
The map looks fantastic, Your just one of those retards that doesn't like change.
2019-10-01 05:35
+1 honestly lolicon i would love to see you make a remake of cache and see how hard it actually is
2019-10-01 05:36
#50
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
It's literally easy as fuck, all I have to do is replace textures
2019-10-01 05:38
yea and model new models discuss what to change make a shit ton of foliage reclip the whole map optimize the map make a lot of displacements remake areas to be authentic 1900's architecture a shit ton of other contracts
2019-10-01 05:44
#58
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
wow modelling new models is so hard dude >discuss what to change he didn't discuss shit >make a shit ton of foliage would literally take me 5 minutes to do, compiling would take longer >reclip the whole map lol >optimize the map the optimization will be worse on new cache >make a lot of displacements displacements are shit and you are shit mapper if you have to make a lot of displacements >remake areas to be authentic 1900's architecture lol nothing was remade >a shit ton of other contracts contracts lmao
2019-10-01 05:46
0/8 >fmpone and volcano discussed >ur hilarious > they remade a main, area between ct and z, squeaky, whole b site, toxic, checkers, heaven, tree room, etc. >im not even gonna bother to answer the rest of ur bullshit
2019-10-01 05:49
#65
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
wow two people who are both out of touch with what people want >ur hilarious not an argument, it literally would take me 5 minutes to do so, someone made a new cache in 1 day, thats how minor these changes are > they remade a main, area between ct and z, squeaky, whole b site, toxic, you call that remade? >im not even gonna bother to answer the rest of ur bullshit i mean you obviously have no idea about mapping if you think making maps out of displacements is a good thing
2019-10-01 05:54
i dont think making maps out of displacements is a good thing but valve and other map makers are starting to do it (valve remade dust 2 with displacements)
2019-10-01 05:59
#68
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Valve are terrible map makers and I can give you a slew of reasons why, I'm talking mechanically not even design choices.
2019-10-01 06:01
#161
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Norway aDnCS 
If you are talking about 3klikphilip's video that made new cache in like 1 day, he didn't even do it right, and if you think his version is better than the new cache, then you are just retarded.
2019-10-01 17:33
#162
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Are you retarded
2019-10-01 17:33
#164
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Norway aDnCS 
are you?
2019-10-01 17:34
#165
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Your reply has literally nothing to do with mine
2019-10-01 17:34
#174
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Norway aDnCS 
stop saying you could FMPONE's remake of de_cache is trash, when he has a map in cs, and not you. I love the New cache, the changes are minimal, but it really didnt need more changes. he added some, and they where great. alittle bit too green, but that can be adjusted. If you are a sooo good mapper that it would take you less than 1 day to do all the stuff FMPONE did, go ahead, i would love to see it.
2019-10-01 17:39
#175
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
I have multiple maps in CS >If you are a sooo good mapper that it would take you less than 1 day to do all the stuff FMPONE did, go ahead, i would love to see it. i mean its just retextures and adding some boxes to some areas, its really not that difficult
2019-10-01 17:41
#180
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Malta MIHAJA 
this thread is very entertaining
2019-10-01 17:49
0/8 and yes can you send some of your maps? Would like to try it
2019-10-01 17:50
#186
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Norway aDnCS 
i dont think he has any.
2019-10-01 17:55
#193
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
#189
2019-10-01 18:09
#199
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
#198
2019-10-01 18:22
#189
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
uploading now
2019-10-01 18:07
Yeah for sure
2019-10-01 18:07
#192
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
2019-10-01 18:09
#198
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
2019-10-01 18:21
#184
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Norway aDnCS 
Its easier said than done. m8. it sounds easier said than it really is. What you are saying is basically "its easy to good in cs, you just tap heads." Every single thing is made step by step. Go ahead make a better version of cache. That is better than the old one.
2019-10-01 17:53
#188
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
you want me to send you a better version of cache?
2019-10-01 17:59
#194
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Norway aDnCS 
yea go ahead do it.
2019-10-01 18:13
Excuse me Mr. Retarded. It doesn't take much time doing all of this stuff to an existing map. Speaking of 8 years hammer editor experience.
2019-10-02 16:16
lul says the mapper
2019-10-03 03:03
#136
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
He has made those models and textures from scratch, you do something better and then we'll talk. Stop being a little bitch or post a link to your version on the workshop. /closed
2019-10-01 13:49
#156
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
yeah and thats stupid, now the map is like 150mb bigger and lags fps more because he didn't use default textures if you want i can upload one of my maps later >Stop being a little bitch or post a link to your version on the workshop. who the fuck uses workshop lol
2019-10-01 17:30
#156
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
yeah and thats stupid, now the map is like 150mb bigger and lags fps more because he didn't use default textures if you want i can upload one of my maps later >Stop being a little bitch or post a link to your version on the workshop. who the fuck uses workshop lol
2019-10-01 17:30
#195
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Norway aDnCS 
If your maps arent in the workshop there is no way it can be played on cs, lol publicly
2019-10-01 18:15
#197
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
holy shit you are so retarded what are community servers you moron
2019-10-01 18:21
#211
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
nobody is joining your shitty servers, everyone uses workshop so don't think you're some kind of genius savant for not using something that was meant to be used for shit like this you little kid. Upload a good map on the workshop that's at least as good as FMPONEs and then we'll talk. Otherwise just shut the fuck up and stop talking shit nonamer.
2019-10-01 20:01
#217
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
2/3 players never play official valve servers pros use community servers too you ever play ffa dm? thats a community server, my server is rank 4 and has an average player count of 34 (that is adding up the amount players on every 5 minutes and then dividing it) there are over 10,000 unique players, those are just the ones logged there are probably more but yeah dude no one plays community servers > everyone uses workshop no they don't, i do not know any server that uses workshop to host maps >so don't think you're some kind of genius savant for not using something that was meant to be used for shit like this you little kid. workshop was not meant to be used for csgo, its a piece of shit and works horribly in csgo, and now you have to wait for your map to be manually approved >Upload a good map on the workshop no because the workshop is a piece of shit and wouldn't support my map because, as i said its a broken piece of shit >Otherwise just shut the fuck up and stop talking shit nonamer. my maps are played on the rank 1 csgo server and many mappers know me, but sure im a nonamer because im not an attention whore who cares about fame more than quality mapping
2019-10-02 02:59
#218
Kush | 
Netherlands protiny 
I said "noone plays on your shitty server" quite a big fucking difference with "noone plays on community servers" don't you think? If you say people supposedly do play on your server then give me the name of the server, should be easy to see how well populated it is. Did I say that servers need to host workshop maps? No I didn't, I said that everyone uses the workshop to publish their work and let it get noticed. Again a big fucking distinction. Also I have never encountered a single problem with the workshop or heard people complain about the workshop other than that there are those scamming maps on there that drown everyone out. If you are too scared of uploading your shit on the workshop then stop crying. Thousands of people manage to upload things on the workshop just fine but if you are too incompetent to do such a simple thing then that's on you.
2019-10-02 03:15
#219
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
13.73.0.133:27017 only 6 people are on right now, but its school/work for most people, wait till peak hours >Did I say that servers need to host workshop maps? you said everyone uses them >No I didn't, I said that everyone uses the workshop to publish their work and let it get noticed. That isn't true >Also I have never encountered a single problem with the workshop Recaching errors, particle errors to name a few I know of. >If you are too scared of uploading your shit on the workshop then stop crying. how am i scared? its just a waste of time, i dont want attention/fame for what i do >Thousands of people manage to upload things on the workshop just fine but if you are too incompetent to do such a simple thing then that's on you. im not incompetent but i would need to launch csgo and upload via csgo to do it, do you not realise how retarded that is?
2019-10-02 03:37
#224
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Finland Owava 
You don't want attention/fame for what you do, but still you use hours on HLTV forum to tell everyone how much better a mapper you are :)
2019-10-02 12:39
#226
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
I'm using it to show im not talking out of my ass retard
2019-10-02 15:02
#232
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Finland Owava 
nice how you have to go for insult straight away when someone comments to you btw :)
2019-10-02 15:56
#240
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
People already insulted me first by saying im a worse mapper than fmpone make a better map blablabla no one is actually arguing me because im right
2019-10-02 16:34
#241
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Finland Owava 
one mapper gets paid for mapping, one doesn't... I think Valve knows better than someone who thinks he's superior and bashes everyone saying otherwise in HLTV forums ;)
2019-10-02 16:46
#263
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
There are many paid pros who are worse than semipros volcano made cache good btw
2019-10-03 12:52
#141
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United States xxpowmanxx 
the map was unbalanced and abusable, he had to do some balancing, as well as add some ways to control the flow of the game.
2019-10-01 15:01
#155
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
how was it unbalanced? because ts won more than cts? how was it abusable
2019-10-01 17:29
#51
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
These are just the logged hours in CS:GO SDK btw, doesn't include Hammer and non-logged hours 0x0.st/zvUj.png
2019-10-01 05:39
#49
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
It looks over saturated as fuck like fortnite I don't want some newfag who has been playing CS:GO since 2018 to talk to me about this
2019-10-01 05:38
Its slightly oversaturated, beyond that there is little wrong with it - certainly not a "Garbage map"
2019-10-01 05:42
#53
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
doesn't look fantastic either
2019-10-01 05:44
Far more detail, better colors, more realistic theme? Thats not good to you? You would rather have 5 year old mediocre graphics? Each to their own I suppose.
2019-10-01 05:45
#59
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
this is csgo not witcher 3, detail isn't needed colours are over saturated and bright as fuck, csgo maps, especially competitive ones do not need to be like that >more realistic who cares >You would rather have 5 year old mediocre graphics? yes because its a competitive video game
2019-10-01 05:47
#142
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United States xxpowmanxx 
Its still 5+ year old mediocre graphics, nothing changed it just looks different than it did before, and you hate it bc your iq is so low and you dont want people to know by looking at your inability to learn a few new smokes.
2019-10-01 15:03
#152
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
> Its still 5+ year old mediocre graphics, who cares >nothing changed it just looks different than it did before then it is a pointless update >and you hate it bc your iq is so low and you dont want people to know by looking at your inability to learn a few new smokes. I thought nothing changed, why do i need to relearn smokes?
2019-10-01 17:28
It's not needed - but it's also nice. The new cache isn't even on the level of many modern games. It's not overbearing, it's not overwhelming, I see no issue.
2019-10-01 15:04
#153
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
>It's not needed exactly CS:GO is a poorly optimized piece of shit, these poorly optimized piece of shit maps only worsen this
2019-10-01 17:28
pro players play oversaturated. fmpone said that he will tone it down so it doesn't fuck up pro's nvidia settings (atm it becomes too oversaturated)
2019-10-01 17:34
#166
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
we'll see when its released if it still looks like fortnite
2019-10-01 17:34
#166
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
we'll see when its released if it still looks like fortnite
2019-10-01 17:34
#69
gob b | 
Germany kezah 
nt typical flame remembered everyone and their dog say the same about new train, new dust2, new inferno and yet here we are with nobody complaining.
2019-10-01 06:13
#78
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
new train was actually a good remake so people didnt say that new dust2 is worse new inferno is worse yes people stopped complaining because the maps have been out for a long time and regrettably aren't going away, i already mentioned in a thread a few days ago how the new dust2 and nuke are poorly optimized and made poorly
2019-10-01 06:36
#104
zet | 
Switzerland MRKNUSPER 
thats just your opinion.. imo new d2 and inf are better than the old ones
2019-10-01 10:38
#129
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
It's not my opinion that people didn't complain about train new dust2 removed skill jump, worsened visibility and restricted the skybox allowing for less nades what good did new dust2 add other than wood doors (which used to be a thing)
2019-10-01 13:33
New inferno is def. not worse. The map sucks balls, yes, but so did the old one. Dust 2 tho.. Jesus christ what a shitshow of a map. Also, why did they saturate Cache so fucking much that I have to turn down digital vibrance to even see anything on it. fucking hell
2019-10-01 10:40
#128
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
old inferno was better than new one
2019-10-01 13:29
Old inferno was cancer in cs:go. If you're talking about 1.6 then sure, but old cs:go inferno was trash. So is the New one
2019-10-01 14:03
#151
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
1.6 > css > csgo old > csgo new
2019-10-01 17:27
I Guess we'll have to disagree. 1.6 -> rest ez
2019-10-02 12:34
#144
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Lithuania Sedge 
new inferno is 100x better, favourite map since 2015
2019-10-01 15:25
#149
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
new inferno hasnt been out since 2015
2019-10-01 17:26
#149
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
new inferno hasnt been out since 2015
2019-10-01 17:26
#205
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Lithuania Sedge 
i know, im saying even before the update it was my favourite and it still is... and in my opion, as someone who purely only plays inferno on matchmaking i say its better- just my opinion though
2019-10-01 18:36
You can literally run csgo with your toaster, its a cpu intensive game so you can run it with like 98% of the chips. if you want to discuss about poor optimization, start with gta 4 or crysis 1.
2019-10-01 17:38
#176
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
that doesn't discard the game has optimization issues
2019-10-01 17:41
Compared to alot of other games its optimized pretty damn well. Every game has those issues but is it badly optimized? No. Go check out RandomGamingHD on youtube and you'll see how well the game really is optimized, even on the very old cards. You are just trying to find excuses that doesnt make any sense.
2019-10-01 17:53
#191
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
no it isnt, not at all, this game is 7 years old on a 20 year old engine, it should not be compared to modern games
2019-10-01 18:07
We are talking about optimization here, the age of a certain software/ game is irrelevant if its done right and can run almost flawlessly on any machine. gta 4 is 11 years old and is optimized very, very poorly and most systems struggle to run it (with or without mods). Are you saying we shouldnt compared gta 4 vs gta 5 optimization vise because the gta 4 is old? come on, you arent making any sense at this point.
2019-10-01 18:20
#201
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
no it is relevant, a 10 year old game should run better than a brand new game yes thats my point? gta is old but still poorly optimized, csgo is similar >Are you saying we shouldnt compared gta 4 vs gta 5 optimization vise because the gta 4 is old? I mean saying "guys csgo gets more fps than gta 5 so its better optimized" is retarded
2019-10-01 18:22
How is it even fortnite? Plus Cache is meant to abandoned and it clearly shows
2019-10-01 11:07
#127
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
looks bright and colourful with high saturation
2019-10-01 13:28
Fortnite looks like kids colours. Cache actually looks like it has rotted out
2019-10-01 13:38
#147
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
the green on cache is the same colour as fortnite
2019-10-01 17:24
No it def isn't. Fortnite is wayyyyyy more brighter
2019-10-02 02:25
#215
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
it looked bright as fuck on the esl match
2019-10-02 02:52
Fortnite actually looks dull compared to this monstrosity lmfao
2019-10-02 16:22
Really? I didn't think so or me just colourblind
2019-10-03 05:09
He playtested 500 versions of the map + made all the textures by himself while working on other projects. Have you even seen the map without digital vibrance on?
2019-10-02 20:22
#265
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
wow playtesting is so hard good job he made textures that will just increase the maps file size and decrease fps
2019-10-03 12:53
Even though I expect it to be much more ct sided than before, because of the boost spots, the mid window, the kennyBox, the lowered building next to the A Spot etc.
2019-10-01 10:39
It's been T sided because they could do so many things, especially mid. Now with the new changes, it's equal because each side have equal opportunities to do different things
2019-10-01 11:06
something like mirage better colors. better visibility. less annoying corners to check . he actually managed to make the map worse and i bet alot we will see another update coming where he corrects at least the colors :)
2019-10-01 17:31
#177
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
"he actually managed to make the map worse and i bet alot we will see another update coming where he corrects at least the colors :)" how tf he made map worse? he only added some new places to balance the map and updated visuals.
2019-10-01 17:44
wat ? he did more than that. but this green shit destroys everything anyway
2019-10-01 19:12
#210
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
i dont think it destroys but making everything greener was a bad idea imo but still it looks great
2019-10-01 19:52
colours are fine now, what you saw at the showmatch had some digital vibrance added + why use digital vibrance in the first place, it just fucks up your eyes
2019-10-02 20:23
lmao playing csgo without vibrance... i dont need a depressing looking game
2019-10-02 23:15
Did they update it? seems like its the same as before
2019-10-01 03:40
god this is stupid, they legit changed most of the map
2019-10-01 05:18
looks same to me mens((
2019-10-01 05:29
yeah fuck bro idk, they changed everything
2019-10-01 05:46
they added window in z new angles box near highwayish thingy (idk the callout because i dont play cache) you can molly off quad from truck etc
2019-10-01 05:21
#56
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China SwooksarV2 
Not in game yet.
2019-10-01 05:45
#93
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France CocoBiceps 
Not in the game but you can see it on the showmatch of esl on NY
2019-10-01 10:05
Lmao Haven't even played the map yet but "oh hey, why not bash it for its looks? That'll make me cool, definitely" Andy
2019-10-01 03:40
why do i need to play it its a 100% visual change
2019-10-01 03:43
100% visual change? That just proves it
2019-10-01 03:45
oh im sorry. they moved a brick on the ground 2 centimeters to the left? shut up dumbass its 99% visuals because the creator is too scared to change anything
2019-10-01 03:58
Lmao Look who decided to drop from 100% to 99 Am I just contradicting myself or what? Compares it to Fortnite but doesn't care about the actual gameplay changes Hypocrisy is an easy pass dude
2019-10-01 04:02
how about you stop taking exaggerated numbers so literally, dumbass - The colors look exactly like fortnite color palette - The overhyped "NEW CACHE" that took years to make turns out to be mostly just visuals
2019-10-01 04:07
what a fucking stupid retard have you even see the map? 99% visual changes what a silver
2019-10-01 04:19
#41
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
99% of the changes are visual
2019-10-01 05:28
#75
2019-10-01 06:33
I like how they expect them to remake the map LUL it's still supposed to be Cache, ffs, it's not a new map, stop expecting them to remove half the map. Also, plenty of changes. Good changes that was needed, but I don't enjoy the heavy saturation
2019-10-01 10:42
#119
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India daksh29 
+1 its way too bright and way too green even the red container in mid is green now like wtf and its not even a good type of green its so yellowish and ugly af
2019-10-01 11:29
A site has been changed a lot, a lot of new angles, new cover. Middle has new window, cover under the T boost etc B site has new boost and positions etc the lamp. Were you expecting an entirely different map? A rework means updating the map, not changing it's entirety..
2019-10-01 06:32
#80
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
thats less than 1% of the changes >A rework means updating the map there have been maps that have had more substantial updates without a "rework" rework nowadays means poorly optimized, poorly made "better" looking maps
2019-10-01 06:36
Less than 1% of the changes because you're saying that a new texture is worth the same % as any other edit. Sure there are probably only like 20 things that have changed the map itself. But those 20 things are more impactful than the change in textures, so sure those 20 things might be 1% of everything changed on the map... But they make up all the game play changes that happens on the map. It's like you expect the guy to change a feature for every texture he changes, which is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. You probably don't even realise how much different it's going to be. Moli quad from truck now.. building height changed for new smokes and strats, middle is completely different to take and hold..
2019-10-01 06:40
#83
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
They are but they are still 1% >It's like you expect the guy to change a feature for every texture he changes, which is the stupidest shit I've ever heard. no?
2019-10-01 06:41
Okay then what % of changes should map altering changes be? Because even 5% would be crazy. Imagine having to change something on the map every 20 textures that you change.. Considering he changed pretty much every texture, and there would be thousands, he'd have to do like 200 map changing things..
2019-10-01 06:49
#86
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
idk its pretty easy to make most of the changes not texture related i added a completely new stage to a map and only added 100 new models and materials
2019-10-01 07:40
I think he preferred how the map plays already tho. It's probably the most balanced map of all and he wanted it to remain that way. Therefore you can't just make changes to everything, because he has to keep in mind how it can be taken advantage of etc. I really don't think he did a bad job
2019-10-01 09:58
#89
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
then dont change it at all
2019-10-01 09:58
Well updating the texture's for a map is fine, It's like Dust2 from 1.6 to dust 2 on CS, same map, almost plays the exact same, retextured.
2019-10-01 09:59
#125
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
textures need to be remade because its a new engine theres no need to update textures of an already ported map, especially when it arguably ruins the visibility and theme
2019-10-01 13:27
#94
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France CocoBiceps 
There is not many changes but they are very impactfull for the gameplay The map didn t need a lot of change fmpone worked well gameplay wise
2019-10-01 10:10
#130
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
the map shouldnt have had a remake, he couldve added the truck box and mid window without a complete rework
2019-10-01 13:34
Wait a fucking minute... less than 1%. From what you're saying, FMPONE should just make a new fucking map rather than just updating Cache. Stop fucking bitching honestly these changes are good, the map is much more balanced and Cache looks way more abandoned
2019-10-01 11:09
#126
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
yes he should how do you know the map is more balanced now, it hasnt been played what i can say is making the jump from mid to boost easier is a bad thing as it lowers the skill ceiling
2019-10-01 13:28
So what if it lowers the skill ceiling of strafing? Now CT have more opportunities to have a stronger hold at mid. Mid was pretty T sided because the T side could easily gain control of Mid. Now mid has an equal advantage because if T's wanna push, they need to be more aware. Honestly if he should, you should just shut the fuck up and play one of his other maps like Kill-House or Santorini, he's made way more you know steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/..
2019-10-01 13:45
#168
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
>So what if it lowers the skill ceiling of strafing? That's a bad thing. Should add aim assist too right, no issue with lowering skill ceiling. >Mid was pretty T sided because the T side could easily gain control of Mid. and? does every map have to be neutral/ct sided? >Now mid has an equal advantage because if T's wanna push, they need to be more aware. No they don't, it is ct sided now as they have an extra position to watch from and you cannot smoke/moly all angles now >Honestly if he should, you should just shut the fuck up and play one of his other maps like Kill-House or Santorin I actually liked Santorini, wish he would've improved that instead of a pointless Cache remake
2019-10-01 17:36
It's strafing, not aiming. Furthermore, a lot of people suck at the first jump anyways. How the fuck is aim assist even related? Yeah every map should be neutral to give each side a chance to do things Yeah an extra position that you can't use nades againse except for a HE grenade, meaning people have to be more aware of this window position duh Fair enough but any map should be updated, not remade. An update means change, not a complete change or making changes that removes the resemblance of the old map
2019-10-02 02:23
#216
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Aim assistance lowers the skill ceiling by simplifying and making aiming easier, the update to the kz jump does the same with movement/kz >Yeah every map should be neutral to give each side a chance to do things lol no, thatd be boring and dumb, not saying maps should be incredibly one sided like office or something but there are no neutral maps in play right now, or ever before >Yeah an extra position that you can't use nades againse except for a HE grenade, meaning people have to be more aware of this window position duh Yeah so it benefits the cts?
2019-10-02 02:53
Basically how is aim assist even related to the map??? The jump being easier means the CT's can have more control of boost What would be dumb is if you could only do one thing to a certain part of a map as both a CT and T, meaning it'll be neutral but you can't do much. Here at mid, you can do way more as a CT compared to how easy it was for the T's to take control of mid. Basically neutrality does not make something boring, it's the little amount of opportunities to try something that is boring. Yes it benefits the fucking CTs mid was sooooo T sided. Easiest thing to take control of you know
2019-10-02 10:34
#227
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
You're dumb, it lowers skill ceiling which is bad, anything that does that is bad the jump being easier lowers the skill ceiling neutrality makes shit boring, 8-7 halfs no come backs would be gay as fuck
2019-10-02 15:03
#227
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
You're dumb, it lowers skill ceiling which is bad, anything that does that is bad the jump being easier lowers the skill ceiling neutrality makes shit boring, 8-7 halfs no come backs would be gay as fuck
2019-10-02 15:03
that really depends on how these positions are played don't say I'm dumb when you can't understand that
2019-10-02 15:23
#170
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
oh and i was a fan of museum and crown and old season was good, new one is not so much (ask pros about this too)
2019-10-01 17:36
ahhhh icic fair enuf ig
2019-10-02 15:24
#231
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
you having a stroke?
2019-10-02 15:52
yes
2019-10-03 05:11
#170
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
oh and i was a fan of museum and crown and old season was good, new one is not so much (ask pros about this too)
2019-10-01 17:36
Yeah I guess so
2019-10-02 02:18
Typical low-skill player... smh
2019-10-01 13:19
I'm global elite, been global since late 2015, anyways not sure what this has to do with anything? cache was nice because of the simplistic design theme now it looks like fortnite and unnecessary details that make it harder to see things HUGE downgrade
2019-10-01 15:31
first of all, imagine talking about MM rank when talking about "skill and imagine saying the map remake is a downgrade because of visual change.. if you don't like it, don't play it.. no one cares about your opinion
2019-10-02 17:38
#17
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
becouse people like to play the same map like how they did. even changing small part of something can effect the all map. look cbble for example. did people like it? no! and so they remvoved it and added a new map.
2019-10-01 04:03
Cache played great, he simply fixed it up a bit to spice up the gameplay, map is still the same at the core since it's a R E W O R K
2019-10-02 20:24
1. it isn't just visual changes 2. what they released is from the ESL stream, so the colors will look different on your PC and ESL used pretty terrible settings, so you really can't tell
2019-10-01 03:53
#13
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Denmark baccster 
Close up the A bombsite and tone down on the green and we're good.
2019-10-01 03:58
green is fine, you saw the digital vibrance version of the map and changing your crosshair takes 2 seconds, its like playing mirage with a yellow crosshair and seaside with a blue one
2019-10-02 20:25
#7
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Brazil NukebRS 
New look kind looks good but the map needs to be changed quite a bit more or its going to be almost the same thing. Also some of the models makes it feel like its an old map which i dont like too much
2019-10-01 03:43
#10
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African Union jooky567 
lots of things changed? skybox in checkers, window in mid, platform by boost, lamp on b, box for cover on truck wall, the pipe things you can stand on above headshot, etc,
2019-10-01 03:46
#12
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Brazil NukebRS 
its only my opinion but i feel like the map should gain dramatic changes, for example, opening a new path to b, or be able to go to mid directly from b. I just like to see new and different things in the game, almost like adding a new map but keeping the cache "feel"
2019-10-01 03:54
yeah make dramatic changes to the map and destroy it like cobblestone which look like shit right now. helllll nahhh
2019-10-01 04:23
#22
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
dramatic as nuke, inferno, dust 2, train. Every valve remake seems different in feel rather than keeping the geometry and just retexture everything.
2019-10-01 04:25
well nuke, inferno, cobble and dust2 shit remakes but train was one of the best remakes in my opinion i f*cking hated old de train
2019-10-01 04:31
#28
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
lol, old nuke was such a shit show, 12-3 13-2 halftime. Inferno is probably the second best remake, making banana isn't hard to take as t. while the old banana, you can just resmoke banana from arch, and ct. Can't say much of dust 2, while the original map isn't good too. new Dust 2 fixes long car as the old version feels clunky.
2019-10-01 04:38
#96
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France CocoBiceps 
The dust2 change is really small they changed the car and 2 or 3 other thing but there is no change gameplay wise pro still play the same way the map
2019-10-01 10:13
#30
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
and truck on old inferno is a pain in the ass
2019-10-01 04:45
Inferno was a great remake wtf are you talking about?
2019-10-01 05:34
cant i give my own opinion now?
2019-10-01 13:16
#254
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
atleast give some reasons, you just say it sucks because it's not old inferno?
2019-10-02 22:41
#42
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
hardly a big change lol only real change shit change new angle wow decent idea tbh dumb change
2019-10-01 05:29
#98
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France CocoBiceps 
Lol always easier To judge when you just see the map >you never played the new map so you can t say if the changes are impactful or not ( for ex nitro said the map will be play differently with the new a site need 2 smoke >you want no changes to the map or exessif change. Fmpone did well for balanced change they are not OP for anyside > you can think the new look is terrible but it s something not important for the gameplay i prefer a disgusting map with good gameplay than a beautiful map terrible To play like cobble
2019-10-01 10:21
#131
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
dude i dont need to play a version of dust2 without short to know that dust2 would be shit without short > you can think the new look is terrible but it s something not important for the gameplay i prefer a disgusting map with good gameplay than a beautiful map terrible To play like cobble yes? I agree but these textures are bright and distracting, not good for gameplay
2019-10-01 13:35
#139
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African Union jooky567 
if you get distracted by colors, which fmpone said himself he was going to tone down, you have to be some spastic retard
2019-10-01 14:59
#159
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
It's human nature moron Why do you think flowers are bright and colourful and not dull and grey?
2019-10-01 17:31
#255
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
it's gameplay design, not reality. as a game developer, you don't sacrifice visibility over reality
2019-10-02 23:13
#264
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Yes you do retard, realistically the plant life wouldn't even be that green in real life
2019-10-03 12:53
#266
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
Clearly, you never design a map or become a game developer
2019-10-03 15:11
#268
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
ive made multiple maps
2019-10-03 16:58
#270
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France CocoBiceps 
So they should sucks
2019-10-03 20:41
#271
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
I'd like to think they're well made
2019-10-04 06:05
#221
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France CocoBiceps 
You can t compare this change with removing d2 short It s more like removing goose : without it the map is still playable but with it It push the map To a next lvl
2019-10-02 07:17
#225
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
I don't need to play d2 to know that removing goose is a bad idea
2019-10-02 15:01
#269
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France CocoBiceps 
Omg braind dead not wanting To admit he is wrong
2019-10-03 20:41
#272
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
I'm not wrong
2019-10-04 06:05
They changes are really impactful it's not all about how many changes there are, it's how it really changes how the map is played and what you can do
2019-10-01 11:12
#21
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
just reduce the saturation then it's all good
2019-10-01 04:24
#102
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Norway PhiliThunder 
He will do it
2019-10-01 10:34
It made the map a lot more dependent on each team's AWPers
2019-10-01 04:32
What we ask for is simple design to see enemies better and high fps. What we get is colorful clusterfuck with shit fps.
2019-10-01 04:57
i actually really like it how it is if anything turn up the saturation #changemymind
2019-10-01 04:58
0/8
2019-10-01 05:32
Changing colors is ok... But not sure about the amount of texture "noise".
2019-10-01 06:20
#74
sopheyy | 
Kazakhstan enimen 
i liked how cache was the only T sided map, it was fun to comeback as Ts.. now it seems another balanced map
2019-10-01 06:27
Lol fmpone said he will lower the vibrance by 20 %
2019-10-01 06:34
i don't think that's the problem, the textures are just shite
2019-10-01 10:42
#79
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India Smauxx 
Tactical changes to cache are good imo. CT have more options to retake A and Mid. Its just too much Green. Thats what makes it look ugly.
2019-10-01 06:36
#84
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Finland Pingub0b 
Not a single user here has played the map and says its garbage. Ok.
2019-10-01 06:41
#87
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
Retarded newfag logic, imagine my shock
2019-10-01 07:45
internet explorer
2019-10-01 09:59
#92
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Bulgaria overflowww 
Expected to have slow Internet in africa
2019-10-01 10:00
Thr look is so trash, i like the new angles. But why the fuck he had change visuals so much? It was a great settings of a nuclear power plant. Now it looks like some ukrainian trash village... Also libe the cache for the clear colors, no disturbance. Enemies are highly visible. Now its a fucking jungle. I know they will tone down the colors before release but it still will be worse than current colors. He should have added the boosts on B, z window, new boxes whater and add a rusty tone to it if he wanted to point out its abandoned or whatever.
2019-10-01 10:31
the old cach looked good, idk why he felt the need to just put green everywhere it just doesnt look right.
2019-10-01 10:42
old cache looked good ? ROFL
2019-10-01 17:29
#257
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
good visibility == good map, enemy blends in + distracting color not good
2019-10-02 23:16
The only thing I like so far is the quad molo and the lamp boost on B where u jump from heaven
2019-10-01 10:51
There's way too much saturation on the map. Just make it default saturation so that people can chose if they want to had DV like on any other map.
2019-10-01 10:53
The colour scheme was based off Chernobyl I believe. When Chernobyl was evacuated there was an overgrowth of plants and flora which spread across old buildings.
2019-10-01 11:00
Yeah the map look awesome, people need to understand that csgo dev make pretty maps in order to gain new casual people who cares about graphics. So we are not the people directly concerned by this kind of update
2019-10-01 18:34
What if casuals run away after watching such trash graphics
2019-10-02 16:29
So you are trying to tell me that old cache have better graphics than the new one ? Are retarded or ... oh nvm i saw your flag... yeah yeah your right suka trash graphics rush b
2019-10-02 16:50
#258
allu | 
Indonesia KAKKIKU 
These colors are for paintings or game with simplistic texture like fornite. putting millions colors =\= good graphics
2019-10-02 23:19
They are not close to real, they are not good for visibility, they are not simple, makes the new cache pretty much a GAY map.
2019-10-03 00:12
Typical colors of the soviet union
2019-10-01 11:10
cry kid
2019-10-01 11:31
#121
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Brazil Negrinhu 
My african friend your opinion doesn't matter, Best regards, BBC
2019-10-01 11:37
Literally 10x times better
2019-10-01 13:17
#132
loli | 
Japan Lolicon 
0/8
2019-10-01 13:35
mimimimi
2019-10-01 14:59
#146
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Bolivia KEKW 
new angles are great, visuals not so much. i guess the bombsites have decent visuals but the rest of the map is way too cartoony. also poor texture work, some parts are just way too detailed and overdone. valve does it better -regards, just another retard with a shitty opinion
2019-10-01 15:31
delete digital vibrance and it looks decent, but with even 80% on it looks horrible
2019-10-01 17:25
#160
crAck | 
Russia Sozwe 
Happy new 2013
2019-10-01 17:32
i do not like the update :( it seems like they had to much fear to edit to much cause of the community youtube.com/watch?v=LqEy6qu3RM4&t=2s
2019-10-01 17:36
#179
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
its because people like to play the map like how they do
2019-10-01 17:47
2 men worked hard for this for a year. have some respect. they basically dedicated their lives to give us this. you're being unreasonable right now considering the fact they're still gonna upgrade it before releasing it on the 10th
2019-10-01 17:37
why? They worked on the wrong things that no one asked for, why should I respect them just cuz they waste a lot of time? Will you respect me if I paint an entire room wall with only using a toothbrush? It would take a lot of time!
2019-10-02 16:21
my only problem with it are the color saturations. they said they'll fix it and I think I'll get used to it once it's out.
2019-10-02 16:58
They basically retextured an existing map. Not made it from scratch.
2019-10-02 16:32
let's just get the CSS cache
2019-10-01 17:46
#185
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Lithuania aikaz45 
i kinda like it. it wouldnt make sence to make the communist warehouse clean and new
2019-10-01 17:54
you don't need to clean it to look good, the overgrowth is half assed with trash colors.
2019-10-02 16:31
Rip my green crosshair... any crosshair colour suggestions ?
2019-10-01 18:22
Pink is ugly but atleast you always see it
2019-10-01 18:32
Alright I'll try it thx
2019-10-01 18:54
#246
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Lithuania aikaz45 
I always use small yellow with black outline
2019-10-02 20:18
light blue is decent and you should still be able to see it
2019-10-02 20:21
it looks too childish. pretty sure coloring will be toned down.
2019-10-01 18:35
#220
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Spain SPQR_CAESAR 
I mean I can't say It looks bad but i definetely like the old one more. This new cache is too colorful imo
2019-10-02 04:39
you know that ESL has digital vibrance at 150%, right? Recently somebody on twitter made a video fucking around on the real map and it looks like a normal cs map
2019-10-02 20:20
And yet you're going to by playing it 0/8rain
2019-10-02 20:24
#267
ropz | 
Argentina rawe1337 
People is impressed because of the reskin while the actual layout of the map only changed a 10% of it, and they're saying "they changed B, A, mid, squeaky, etc " lol no, all of that remains almost the same, only some minor changes. I'm ok with that tho, but don't bait working on the map for 1 whole year and revealing it in a T1 event for such small changes.
2019-10-03 15:15
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