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Top 20 so far in 2019.
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
1. S1mple 2. ZywOo 3. Device 4. EliGe 5. Electronic 6. Twistzz 7. Brehze 8. Magisk 9. Naf 10. Jks 11. NiKo 12. KennyS 13. Dupreeh 14. Sergej 15. Xyp9x 16. Allu 17. Jkaem 18. Cerq 19. Coldzera 20. Ethan How does your top 20 look? Who is to High or to low in your opinion? I didnt include Mousesports, Furia or Avangar players as they don’t Really have enough maps against top competition.
2019-10-02 00:25
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Cerq not top10? nice b8
2019-10-02 00:25
#10
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
He wasnt that good in The beginning of The year.
2019-10-02 00:26
Havent you watch NRG play? He was delivering all year despite his team not always putting numbers up
2019-10-02 00:28
He was delivering but also choking a lot.
2019-10-02 00:31
real chuckyyyyy :),there was a fraud impersonating you and he said he was done with G2 and is now with VIta!
2019-10-02 15:05
#34
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Cyprus delur 
yeah look at all those TITLES they won at the beginning of the year...
2019-10-02 00:37
has nothing to do with his personal performance
2019-10-02 00:45
#50
Xyp9x | 
Denmark Khronov 
Brehze>fatq
2019-10-02 01:01
flag checks out
2019-10-02 15:07
1.Zywoo 2.Device 3.S1mple 4.Elige 5.Brehze
2019-10-02 00:25
#6
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United Kingdom Nokzide 
1
2019-10-02 00:26
#12
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Brehze could be there in The end of The year. The other 4 could all end 1-4 in The next months.
2019-10-02 00:27
#39
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North America 007DBR9 
+1
2019-10-02 00:49
#57
Aleksib | 
Finland sakumb 
EU_1_xartE_NA_0_xartE
2019-10-02 01:09
Zywoo > S1mple
2019-10-02 00:25
S1mple 1 when he was average for 3 months...
2019-10-02 00:26
#11
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
average for s1mple is good for normal players
2019-10-02 00:26
#14
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
2019-10-02 00:28
#5
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Cerq is higher Ethan is higher Jkaem too high JKS way too high Dev1ce is higher Kenny is higher Xyp9x is lower Edit: NiKo is lower, Cold isnt on the list
2019-10-02 00:28
#7
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
i think jame may hit the top 20 mark this year
2019-10-02 00:26
#16
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
If they get more maps from Big events i’m sure he will
2019-10-02 00:28
#21
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
I agree avangar have two events in November if jame picks up two evps or even an mvp he for sure gets top 20 right ?
2019-10-02 00:30
Zywoo > s1mple
2019-10-02 00:26
#9
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Poland Bonh4rt 
Niko in top 20 is big joke
2019-10-02 00:26
this bait is always present in top20 threads hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-01..
2019-10-02 00:28
#25
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Poland Bonh4rt 
Okay but only 1 win tournament so 11 place is too high
2019-10-02 00:32
no men, 2 tournament win and mvp of miami
2019-10-02 00:33
why the fuck is s1mple #1? lol one t3 event win this year is not going to put him in top 3 much less top 1
2019-10-02 00:28
#18
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
I Think it is pretty close between him and ZywOo right now.
2019-10-02 00:29
I don’t lol you need way more than one t3 event to get in top 5
2019-10-02 00:31
IKR, I haven’t heard of his name in a few months
2019-10-02 15:03
#27
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
statistically, he is top 1 including mvps and evps zywoo is top 1 in my personal opinion, I think elige deserves some top 1 recognition too it's a close call, also event wins hardly matter in top 20 :DD
2019-10-02 00:33
Hltv randomly change their criteria It is so inconsistent
2019-10-02 00:50
#46
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
They change because the scene evolves
2019-10-02 00:58
Hey buddy Also they arent even consistent in their same lists
2019-10-02 00:59
#51
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
hey pal and yeah I agree they differ to fit their views a bit but I think the criteria change because the scene evolves like s1mple completely broke the dynamic last year and hltv even admitted that and said that 'device would've been #1 in 2014-2017'
2019-10-02 01:01
Then i look at things like jw in 2015 i know he has massive impact but how does a man with that rating get top 10
2019-10-02 01:03
#56
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
probably the shortage of players in big events and the lack of events in 2015 I think the more we go on the less from one team we see but yeah as far as I remember he barely scraped 1.00 but he won so much they put him high, I think the mvp would've influenced their decision too
2019-10-02 01:06
#19
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Poland M0N0L0Q 
1. S1mple is overrated, this year he doesn't deserve top1 spot, Maybe top3, but not 1st 2. Same goes for electronic, pretty too high imo 3. Jks not enough good tournaments to be that high, Maybe 20-18 4. Allu? 5. Same situation for jkaem like for Jks instead I wouldn't place him anywhere
2019-10-02 00:29
+1
2019-10-02 00:35
s1mple lower Electronic lower jks, NiKo, kenny all way lower, if they're even on the list Cerq higher Maybe -coldzera/jkaem
2019-10-02 00:30
#28
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United States 10YearBansRUs 
Kenny might be on the list, very high ratings
2019-10-02 00:34
kenny will be at very high ratings by the end of the year. Till now 1.16 in decent amount of big events played.
2019-10-02 00:35
Cold isn't top20 this year.
2019-10-02 00:32
Nice bait 1. ZywOo 2. Elige 3. s1mple 4. device anything else is wrong. s1mple can be 4 if Astralis wins some more events with device as MVP.
2019-10-02 00:34
Elige doesnt have the rating to pass simple
2019-10-02 00:51
yeah but he has the trophies and MVPs
2019-10-02 00:55
Remember simple > device last year Stats are the most important thing only zywoo can be above simple atm
2019-10-02 00:57
but last year s1mple had so many MVPs. This year he has literally done nothing except farming ratings in groups and mostly being inactive. He hasn't played enough maps.
2019-10-02 01:00
#55
ZywOo | 
France Qaze 
+1
2019-10-02 01:06
#30
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
1.ZywOo 2.ELiGE 3.dev1ce 4.s1mple 5.NAF 6.Magisk 7.Twistzz 8.Brehze 9.electronic 10.sergej 11.CerQ 12.dupreeh 13.allu 14.jks 15.xyp9x 16.KennyS 17.NiKo 18.Jame 19.nitr0 20.ropz
2019-10-02 00:34
3-Astralis 4-TL 2-EV 2-NaVi 1-Vitality can be 2 with addition of shox. shox is a big possibility in terms of ratings but I don't he will be, maybe if they win some actual trophies. 1-RNG and also not that high prob 20 1-G2 2-ENCE And yeah Jame too. I expected 1 Fnatic(JW/Krimz) but not at this performance. probably 0-mouz and they deserve that. Not a single good placement and ropz is their best player but doesn't seem that good compared to all other players. They are much more raw.
2019-10-02 00:41
#36
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
mate krimz has sub 1 rating and hes played 2-3 events for entire year and gone out 12-16 at most of them
2019-10-02 00:43
I mean Fnatic won IEM Sydney. Also Krimz surely doesn't have sub 1 rating this year. That would be very bad from what I saw at the beginning of the year. JW won the MVP no?
2019-10-02 00:58
#58
nexa | 
Serbia FaZe_nexa 
2019-10-02 01:48
bro wasn't IEM sydney bo5 final vs liquid which they lost 3-1
2019-10-02 14:44
I can see dupreeh making the list in 20-16
2019-10-02 00:58
1- Zywoo 2- Simple 3- Elige 4- device 5- Tarik
2019-10-02 00:36
#38
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Brazil L4st0ne 
cold on top 20 when fer doesnt? thats wrong.
2019-10-02 00:47
#44
KRIMZ | 
France Vilmarh 
It baffles me how people still rate s1mple over ZywOo, despite having lesser stats and wins this year than him. He could still catch up before the end of 2019, but right now ZywOo is so obviously above.
2019-10-02 00:55
coldzera in top 20 XDDDDDDDD
2019-10-02 01:04
#54
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Ukraine beazztov 
coldzera doesn’t deserved spot in top20
2019-10-02 01:05
#60
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United States theory^ 
Electronic 5?
2019-10-02 14:46
#61
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Brazil Arnobio 
If there's a brazillian it would be fer
2019-10-02 15:02
#62
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Pakistan bitchassmf 
1. s1mple XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2019-10-02 15:02
#64
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Poland friendlySeb 
1. s1mple 2. EliGE 3. Twistzz 4. ZywOo 5. device 6. Brehze 7. electronic 8. NAF 9. Magisk 10. jks 11. allu 12. Cerq 13. NiKo 14. dupreeh 15. Xyp9x 16. sergej 17. nitr0 18. Guardian 19. Stewie2K 20. flamie
2019-10-02 15:03
1. ZywOo 2. Elige/s1mple 3. s1mple/Elige 4. device
2019-10-02 15:05
#67
ZywOo | 
France gamarin 
ZywOo is above s1mple right now. Ratings ZywOo = S1mple BUT Impact ZywOo >>>> S1mple (check Impact stat) MVPs/EVPs ZywOo >>> S1mple Tourneys ZywOo >> S1mple
2019-10-02 15:06
21:00G2 vs Virtus.pro
G2
1.21
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4.72
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HAVU
1.28
Riot Squad
3.12
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Cream
2.39
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