he is like fertilizer now
Fuck you , navi had great run in 2018, they won some big t1 events and finished second at major. You can't just call it waste of time
they won cologne that was pretty good
Na`Vi reached Major grandfinal with Zeus, not his fault that s1mple choked hard against Astralis.
agree, Zues a good guy, but he should retire 2 years ago
3 consecutive title in 2018 including ESL ONE Cologne is nothing yeah NT
braindead, sorry dude
No offense, but while Zeus was in Gambit NaVi were straight up awful. They reached their highest level with Zeus as IGL.
Come back in 3 months and lets see what this lineup can achieve. Obvioisly, on paper, they are alot better now. But so was the team post-Zeus back in 2017 too.
NaVi won ESL One Cologne
How many ESL One events have Blastralis won?
I don't get people saying zeus won major and else, fallen got 2 majors also and wtf, zeus cant even aim properly he doesn't deserve to play tier 1 teams for so long, mayb as a coach
wdym they won esl one cologne + 3 other tournaments + they got to major finals with bot edward but astralis were in their prime. nobody could beat them before
remember last time Zeus left NaVi? They had a honeymoon period where they won ESL NY in 2016 and then went to absolute shit until Zeus joined again.
Not saying this is the same, but it could be
Zeus was an amazing IGL but it seemed that he couldn't keep up with the top teams when he had the BEST player on his team. He had so much to work with but failed.
you are wasting your time here writing bs instead of protecting your kid against a school shooter
hey bro, navi fan since 2014 here, zues was there during the glory days, then he got kicked for s1mple, good decision seeing as starix was the main caller anyways, no need for dead weight right, then they get fucked by vavles coaching rules, the proceeded to be a mediocre team for over a year until they got zues back, then they mostly hung around the top 5,which is still far from this teams ceiling, but at least its better than they were. he legitimately made the team better. however i think he was a bandaid fix to an extent. And with how proven he is, its hard to tear that bandaid off. they definitely are bad at managing a team, and zues is a shit individual and navi should have kicked him earlier, but i dont blame them for having hope. plus this is only one event theyre looking amazing at. remember just after the zues kick when they went 3-0 at the major group stage, beating the brazilians backs when they were still a top 2 team. they went on the lose the first playoff matchup (to astralis who did end up winning the major so if you want to lose to somebody,) but they they were shit for a year, they might do the same thing again. we dont know
That's easy to say now in hindsight.
1. read my name
2. they still won cologne 2018
Let's not overreact and just say that 1 year was wasted. Zeus was surely an improvement to 2017 NaVi even though he never was good player but he became exceptionally bad lately. Yes, they wasted time with Edward and Zeus, then with Zeus. Last 2 majors were wasted for s1mple.
Zeus is arguably one of the biggest names in the CIS scene of all time, guy is 31 years old now, and his tactics might be outdated, doesn't make him an overall shit IGL tho.
Oh, damn. I thought nobody replied, turns out my notifications died.
Back at that times there was 2 igls in cis ange1 and zeus. boombl4 never tried himself at igling, same w jame so +zeus was a best decision they could possibly made
navi winning north and optic (literally tier3 teams)
ruski navi fans: bOoMbLA bEsT IgL NaVi WaStEd TiMe wItH zEuS
he are one of the best IGL but aim are one of the worst in the world
I said this would happen the moment he left Gambit.
The only reason he did so well as IGL of Gambit was because he was motivated by revenge. Take away that motivation and offer him a paycheck + the greatest CS player of all time and he just becomes a lazy fuck who is more interested in making youtube videos than practicing for events.
NaVi haven't just wasted 2 years of their own time, they've wasted what is probably the 2 best years of the greatest player of all time. History has shown that the best players almost never stay in their prime for longer than 2 years. Just look at how hard GTR and Olof dropped off.
The only positive thing NaVi can say is that their roster moves haven't been as moronic as the ones in the Swedish scene.
in 2018 zues was the 2nd best igl.
2 years for nothing
Csgo asia championship
ESL ONE COLOGNE 2018
BLAST PRO SERIES COPENHAGEN
Im pretty sure you are braindead
I liked your singing girl thread better
They won 5-6 tournaments and went in 5-6 finals so 2018 became the best Navi year
For nothing ( 6 trophies )
more than Mouz and Mibr combined for the whole history in CSGO 😅
navi were pretty decent in 2018, so its only 1 bad year for them
Zeus reached major final with navi one more time after rejoining, too bad that astralis was too strong at the time.
I just checked
S1mple 7 trophies with Navi
Zeus 6 trophies with Navi after rejeoin
This means Navi with top1 player S1mple could achieve only 1 trophy without Zeus
now quit being blind hater, Zeus is best CIS IGL of all time
Easy to say this NOW after they tried...
Back then everyone thought he would make Na'Vi better after his Gambit run in Krakow.
The reason Navi wasted 2 years for n0thing is n0thing likes to be a independent analyst and streamer not a pro player. Also he cant speak Russian so he kept hanging the invitation from Navi.
they still didnt get n0thinig shouldve signed him
Zeus 1 win on major + 3 finals
Navi without Zeus 0 major finals drop out of top 15
Gambit without Zeus 0 major finals and disband
Ex Zeus mates who made it to finals without him
So think once again
Zeus just tired to play game, he was not involved in this like before
wasted? exsuse me?
they won a lot of events, one major final, 1/2 final, esl one COLOGNE
still NOTHING? lmao
Hindsight is 20/20. They were a top 5 team before they removed him then became utter trash without him so of course they wanted him back. And they DID improve when he came back.
This thread is an absolute lie. With Zeus Na`Vi were top2, when they kicked him they became top16 (!!!!) and when Zeus came back to Na`Vi with Kane they became top2 team again and they were in Major Grand Finals. So pls, don't talk if you know nothing about it.
If you forgot something I can give you easy formula / plan / historical facts:
1. Na`Vi with Zeus top2 team
2. Na`Vi kicked Zeus
3. Na`Vi became top5, top8 and then top16 (even with super-star players for that time)
4. Gambit won Major with Zeus and became solid top3 team
5. Gambit decided to kick Kane after Major victory without any real reason.
6. Zeus warned them that he will go with Kane and asked them to calm down
7. They ignored Zeus and kicked Kane anyway, so Zeus went with him
8. Na`Vi took Zeus back and they became top2 team again and were in Major finals, always minimum top5 team (top2 in 2018) and won some good trophies.
who cares navi. Avangar top 1 CIS
In this 2 years they was better then all NA scene.
Completely agree. I seriously hope he hasn't wasted s1mple at his prime.
Also, welcome back. Why did you get banned?
best option was just -edward +s1mple
Strongly disagree, Zeus is the reason why CIS has been so good. Hopefully B1ad3 can make Boombl4 shine as an IGL
NAVI still shit .Bot Guardian can't save NAVI . Zeus is great player. he wasted time of NAVI
Not true at all. Simple and flamie have matured hugely and just recently became adequate human beings. Zeus had his hands full working with their personalities and the struggles with it messed with his motivation. He talked about it in some interviews that he is tired being their dad...
do you hear about LA Lakers?)))
they slid to the very bottom of the NBA, but paid tribute to their best player, with whom they won 5 championships. Approximately the same situation in Navi. The organization paid tribute to its 2 legendary players who stood at the origins of the organization itself. And these 2 years cannot be called lost, the Navis and Zeus returned to the top, but there was no forward movement
Actually autistic navi wont win anything again unless simple and electronic 2v5 the whole tournament
omg, another crying bastardo baiter who thinks that CS is about fragging. STFU faggot and get lost out of here. How old are you bithc by the way? How old were you in 2010?
Zeus was trash as a player. But they will win absolutely nothing with russki botflamie and botich)
And then they had Edward.
They wasted ~ 6 month cause it would be better if Zeus retired with Edward
They wasted ~ 6 month cause it would be better if Zeus retired with Edward
wow you are so smart afterwards, what a revelation.
flag check fakin USA
Zeus won FIVE Majors. Cry is free
NA talking eliminated by grayhound
Ok so being in semis/finals whole year and winning 4 events including ESL one cologne is nothing lmao
they did the best they could
Another confident victory, what am I saying! They got rid of their virus and now they are performing like they're meant to.
n0thing did nothing wrong
What iam concerned more is that core 3 could developed some bad gaming habits constantly compensating for two old bots. This might hold them back
Of course one of the most renowned players in the whole of CS history is just completely overrated. The guy that won multiple majors in 1.6 and has been in top5 teams for his whole career, the guy that won a major with an outsider team. Of course he is pure garbage...