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US state tier list
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United States Nohj_10years 
Not listing all states, but feel free to ask about a state that wasnt listed. S-Tier: Washington, Oregon, Maine, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Utah, Vermont, Massachusetts A-Tier: Virginia, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Nebraska ,North Carolina, New York, Connecticut B-Tier: Florida, California, Idaho, Michigan, Georgia, Delaware, Ohio, Nevada, Rhode Island C-Tier: Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Kentucky, Alaska, Arkansas, New Mexico F-Tier: Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, West Virginia
2019-10-04 00:36
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#1
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Korea ashisland 
alabama S tier
2019-10-04 00:37
hell yeah KKona
2019-10-04 10:14
+1
2019-10-04 16:10
thoughts on maryland and indiana?
2019-10-04 00:37
#7
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United States Nohj_10years 
Maryland would probably be A tier, Indiana would be Between C and B tier
2019-10-04 00:38
Why u gotta hate Indiana men))))
2019-10-04 18:15
why is California B if there are beaches with hot surfer mens?
2019-10-04 00:37
#10
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United States PsychoLogical 
California sucks. :d
2019-10-04 00:40
#12
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United States Nohj_10years 
dont get me wrong California has beautiful nature but unless you have alot of money its really not that nice of a place to live.
2019-10-04 00:41
Norcal has beautiful nature and affordability
2019-10-14 08:17
#14
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United States 1for1discount 
should be at C
2019-10-04 00:41
California has a lot of asians
2019-10-04 00:53
People. Cost of living. Gang-related crime. The danger of earthquakes and shit also sucks.
2019-10-04 10:27
California's all plastic my dude, literally
2019-10-04 14:28
crocs in sewers too :D
2019-10-04 15:30
Lol..wtf Really?
2019-10-04 16:05
#118
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Poland Czari10 
bruv he is not lying youtube.com/watch?v=vUrxdSORO2Q ABSOLUTE MADNESS!!!!!!
2019-10-04 16:13
#119
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Brazil Capi___ 
"hey buddy, come here and take the ball.. don't be afraid!!" XD
2019-10-04 16:20
Honestly that's not an alligator, it's a reptilian being caught in the act of trying to morph out of the sewer, penny wise is one but dressed in a clown (analogy)
2019-10-14 05:47
what
2019-10-14 08:16
SF is literally full of shit, and medieval diseases like leprosy are coming back there all over California
2019-10-04 15:31
#95
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Belgium TomeCS 
flag checks out
2019-10-04 15:36
cali is literally not even c worthy
2019-10-04 15:36
who cars about developing country
2019-10-04 00:37
#6
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United States PsychoLogical 
ironic coming from a pole.
2019-10-04 00:38
#23
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United States EZ_FOR_NINJAS 
you just got baited mens :(
2019-10-04 00:45
#43
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United States Nohj_10years 
+1
2019-10-04 00:57
not really
2019-10-04 00:59
USA 0 Vietnam 1
2019-10-04 00:37
ouch
2019-10-04 00:39
Vietnam > USA > Russia > Germany >France xaxaxaxa
2019-10-04 15:27
#120
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North America 007DBR9 
tru tho
2019-10-04 16:25
#11
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United States 1for1discount 
what makes a state S tier and what makes a state F tier
2019-10-04 00:40
#15
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United States Nohj_10years 
Healthcare, Education, Economy, Infrastructure, Crime rate, Fiscal Stability, and overall quality of life.
2019-10-04 00:42
#20
United States hdz` 
s-tier, education system is good, judicial system focuses on correction instead of imprisonment, good job opportunities and pay, abundance of low crime areas, legalizes weed, cops don't shoot random black people, good hospitals and mental health facilities... more on the list but you get the idea
2019-10-04 00:44
#22
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United States 1for1discount 
Shouldnt Georgia be C or F tier then
2019-10-04 00:45
#27
United States hdz` 
Georgia has good hospitals, decent living wage, good infrastructure, they do lack on crime rate and overall quality of life but not in the ways that Alabama and Mississippi lack all of the above
2019-10-04 00:47
#37
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United States 1for1discount 
from my experience Georgia is alot worse in terms of crime and quality of life than Alabama is considering ive lived in both states. Also the living wage can be as low as 5 dollars in georgia. the state is infested with koreans who cant driver also. Atlanta is a shithole
2019-10-04 00:52
#44
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Israel _laden 
Legalize weed = bad
2019-10-04 00:57
#46
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United States 1for1discount 
+1
2019-10-04 00:59
please explain
2019-10-04 15:31
#121
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North America 007DBR9 
legalize drugs = good just look at Portugal, they had a huge drug issue, legalized them, focused on rehab, and now everything is much better. Sometimes people make me SMH
2019-10-04 16:27
>cops don't shoot random black people sounds like a terrible state
2019-10-14 05:44
#13
United States hdz` 
only thing i would change is Vermont to a-tier because there is literally nothing there besides mountains and lakes for outdoor activities. Also not a ton of food choices.
2019-10-04 00:41
New York is the best state
2019-10-04 00:42
For forgot Kansas you fucking prick
2019-10-04 00:43
#18
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United States Nohj_10years 
Kansas would probably be b tier
2019-10-04 00:44
S tier easy only bad thing is nothing
2019-10-04 00:44
Kansas is between C and F tier. It’s a pointless state that produces too many Republicans and is thus a money dump
2019-10-14 06:10
Expected from the Scandinavian state Minnesota,
2019-10-04 00:44
#24
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United States Nohj_10years 
Yeah funnily enough, areas with a high Scandinavian population also tend to be the most developed and most safe.
2019-10-04 00:45
Too cold to go outside and commit crimes.
2019-10-04 00:46
+1
2019-10-04 00:46
#31
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Macedonia R4nger)( 
True lmao
2019-10-04 00:50
Not false
2019-10-04 14:29
#105
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Sweden hyllie 
+1
2019-10-04 15:48
Is minneapolis really safe tho? youtube.com/watch?v=wYDC28gW3Eg
2019-10-14 08:13
good list but move delaware up
2019-10-04 00:48
Clearly a bias Yankee. But hey, you guys have always been in love with yourselves and think you're the world's greatest society to have ever existed so it's perfectly expected. Having traveled to 40 States and had close connections with people from all over and knowing how each place is from experience and study. The best States are those with the least amount of Yankees. New England is by far the worst place in the whole of these formerly united States which were ruined by the Yankees in the 1860's. If only the South could have won the war and we'd have been able to live without Yankees. Although you guys have so many crazed leftist up there you are slowly destroying yourselves. When the coming collapse happens, it's going to hit New England the hardest.
2019-10-04 00:49
#33
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United States PsychoLogical 
0/8.
2019-10-04 00:50
stfu why you hating on Southeast
2019-10-14 05:52
#35
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United States Nohj_10years 
mens these are mostly based of stats and actual rankings not my bias((
2019-10-04 00:51
usnews.com/news/best-states/rankings If it's based on stats, how in the world is Pennsylvania A tier lmao?
2019-10-04 00:53
#45
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United States Nohj_10years 
didn't see them there my bad.
2019-10-04 00:58
Those lists mean nothing and are themselves bias in many ways. I live in Virginia which traditionally rates high in all those lists, and it's true that Virginia is a great State to live in. But those lists also have States that traditionally rank low which I've been to and are every bit as good as Virginia. Take South Carolina for instance -- a State that usually doesn't rank very high in certain lists. But I lived in South Carolina for 2 months in 2007 and wanted to move there because I loved it so much. I only came back to Virginia because my mothers husband died unexpectedly and she asked me to come home. I also spent 2 months in Montana in 2010 and it's the most amazing place I've ever been. The Southern people are known for their hospitality and friendly nature, and Montana is the same way. I have so many stories from my time there. Anyway, I could go on and on about this topic since I've given it much thought, and I've traveled a lot. I rode a bicycle from Montana to Kentucky in 2010 over a 45 day period and everyday was me having personal dealings and discussions with the locals of each place I visited. I'm also a student of American society, culture, and history, and have been for 20 years. I know this land, its people, and its history very well. An intelligent and responsible man can make it anywhere in any of the 50 States if he really wants to. What's important is what are the people like, and what is the cost of living. Also, weather, natural disasters and such-like is important to many but these things are subjective. Of course, if you need work to survive you'll have to consider how you'll make your living. This is easy if your life hasn't been wasted and you have skills which are always needed in the market no matter where you live. Everywhere in these united States need carpenters, engineers, craftsman of all sorts, managers, Etc. The above factors rank all the Southern States highly desirable places to live because the people are awesome, and the cost of living is super cheap. You can get land and homes in most Southern States for 500k that the equal of which would cost you double, and sometimes triple or more in other areas of the Union. Where I currently live in Virginia I paid 75k for 2.5 acres and a home which is nearly impossible in many places. I live 45 minutes from Richmond, 40 minutes from Williamsburg (one of America's best small cities), an hour and a half from Virginia Beach. This is normal in the South. New England is low on my lists because it's expensive, the people are rude, it's very divided, it's far left politically, taxes are high, control/regulation is extreme, it snows too much, cities are dirty, and the accent is nails on a chalkboard. It has beautiful Falls though.
2019-10-04 01:18
Nice anecdotal evidence idot.
2019-10-04 10:37
It's idiot* If you are going to call someone a rude name that implies they are stupid, you should at least attempt to spell it right. I didn't only mention anecdotal evidence but also things like cost of living and the culture. Which are two main reasons the South ranks high and New England low on the best States list. There is a reason tons of Northerners move South but not many Southerners move North.
2019-10-04 15:19
#122
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North America 007DBR9 
Where would you put the midwest?
2019-10-04 16:35
I personally put them high because I like the people and the vast open country. For instance, I live in Virginia that has about 8 million people. Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Nebraska added together have less than Virginia, and each of those States alone are larger than Virginia geographically. The bad thing about some of the Midwestern States is the cost of living and work. Though rent, and paying for a home can be super cheap the regular cost of living like food, fuel, etc. tends to cost more. The worst thing is the pay. Excluding North Dakota (because they have one of the best economy's in the US due to the oil boom there) the pay for tradesmen/craftsman type jobs is pretty poor in the mid-west. I'm assuming it's like this with all jobs in those States. For me, the main things that make for a State being a good place to live or not are; cost of living, job opportunities and pay, weather/natural disasters, culture, habits, attitudes, laws, and taxes. The Midwest in general (there are exceptions of course because you still have regional differences) ranks high for me on culture, habits, attitudes, laws, and taxes, but not so great on natural disasters, job opportunities, pay, and cost of living. The only Midwestern State I have nothing good to say about is Nebraska. I'm bias though because of my own experience in that State. When I was riding my bike across country I was also pulling a trailer behind me. One of the wheels on my trailer broke and was barely hanging on. I made a sign asking for help and slowly rode about 80 miles through Nebraska with my beautiful Yellow Lab walking besides me and not one person stopped to help me. In Virginia I can go for a walk near my house for exercise and random people will stop and ask if I need a ride. I've hitchhiked many times (in my younger days) and always got picked up. In Montana I had people going out of their way to help me or make my life better in some way for the 2 months I was there. But for some reason the people of Nebraska were not very kind or helpful when I needed them. Funnily enough, my favorite singer/songwriter of all time is from Nebraska so go figure. My last day in that State was when I got to Omaha and entered from the North and rode my bike with the trialer all the way through the city until I got to the south end where I crossed a bridge into Council Bluffs Iowa. And I don't know if you are aware of this, but Omaha is one hilly freaking city. Not a fun city to ride a bike in with a trailer and 70lb dog! And I had already rode my bike about 80 miles that day before getting to that God forsaken land! I couldn't wait to get out of that State!
2019-10-04 17:08
nice copypasta
2019-10-04 15:32
Internet memes have ruined you. Not everything on HLTV is a meme or copy and paste. Search what I typed on google and you'll not find it anywhere else. I wrote it myself from my own mind last night and I sincerely meant every word of it.
2019-10-04 15:35
0/8.
2019-10-04 15:36
#30
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United States AjAjCaptain 
Tier S: Washington . . . . . Tier F: Literally everyone else
2019-10-04 00:49
Ok Washington is great. I would go Tier S Washington Tier A Oregon Tier F everything else
2019-10-14 06:12
Imagine having a state where you can fuck your sister as F tier wtf
2019-10-04 00:50
No State allows such a thing by law and never has. The TV and movies isn't real history. Go read the source material because until then you know nothing.
2019-10-04 01:19
SWEET HOME ALABAMA
2019-10-04 10:14
Imagine having a state where you can't fuck your sister
2019-10-04 14:31
#34
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United States Trump2020KAG 
LET GO PA
2019-10-04 00:51
#41
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United States PsychoLogical 
ez S-Tier for Massachusetts :d
2019-10-04 00:54
#42
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United States Trump2020KAG 
EAST COAST BEST COAST
2019-10-04 00:55
#52
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United States PsychoLogical 
yes.
2019-10-04 01:19
midwest best coast. It is a common misconception, but I will let it slide.
2019-10-04 15:55
#123
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North America 007DBR9 
+1
2019-10-04 16:35
Literally the worst State in the whole Union excepting maybe California. Only a communist could love such a place.
2019-10-04 15:21
Wisconsin in tier A wot wot
2019-10-04 00:53
#124
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North America 007DBR9 
bro... fkn cheese
2019-10-04 16:36
Looking only at S-tier: 7 voted for dems in 2016 and only 1 (Utah) voted for reps
2019-10-04 01:11
Utah shouldnt be S Tier, too many Mormons. Also democratic states are generally better. That is a fact
2019-10-14 06:13
California F tier, NY C tier, everything else S tier also how could you not rank texas
2019-10-04 01:13
#53
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United States PsychoLogical 
I rank Texas at B.
2019-10-04 01:19
#55
biN | 
Israel _laden 
Why
2019-10-04 01:29
#92
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Finland ToxicDUD 
I agree w that texas S A if u dont like the heat
2019-10-04 15:35
Lived in texas my whole life and absolutely hate hot weather, anything over 75 is annoying to me. I still couldnt imagine ranking this state under A.
2019-10-04 16:11
#125
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North America 007DBR9 
If you've lived there you're going to be biased, for a list to be correct it has to be a foreigner that has been to all the places
2019-10-04 16:37
#137
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Finland ToxicDUD 
I bet not a single one in hltv has been to all 50 states xd
2019-10-04 16:50
I might be bias because I have a dual citizenship and some family from Texas, but its easily of the best states I frequent. A imo
2019-10-14 06:08
#50
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Germany HLTV_GERMANY 
Canada best US state
2019-10-04 01:15
Wyoming S tier
2019-10-04 10:15
+1 The least populated State with Awesome people and geography. Easily a top tier State.
2019-10-04 15:23
#59
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Sweden Akoulad 
God bless america
2019-10-04 10:19
#60
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Belgium Septa 
Kansas bruh
2019-10-04 10:23
you know about kansas????????
2019-10-04 18:18
#154
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Belgium Septa 
Yeah, a couple of friends of mine live there. Is it uncommon to have heard about it? haha
2019-10-04 20:29
#63
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United States bigsex69 
Florida shouls be S tier
2019-10-04 10:38
#66
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United States skzl_ 
+999 old people rule 😎
2019-10-04 14:28
Florida worst state
2019-10-04 16:12
#126
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North America 007DBR9 
+1
2019-10-04 16:37
#138
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United States bigsex69 
in what other state can you casually fight gators
2019-10-04 16:57
fuck Florida.
2019-10-04 17:29
#147
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United States bigsex69 
#138
2019-10-04 17:30
what about denver? why it isnt listed in S tier?
2019-10-04 10:45
#65
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United States Nohj_10years 
Colorado would probably be A tier
2019-10-04 14:26
#71
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United States Stoplight91 
I live in oklahoma and I can say that it deserves to be lower
2019-10-04 15:21
#73
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United States Stoplight91 
The roads are absolutely terrible and on any bus you are risking getting injured by the potholes
2019-10-04 15:22
That's a common problem with the large Midwestern States. They are all so big and do not have the tax revenue due to low populations to maintain the roads. South Dakota and Nebraska has pretty bad roads as well. I spent 2 weeks in the Tulsa area back in 2000 and do not remember the roads being that bad back then. Perhaps they have not been maintained over the past 19 years. Also, if roads are a judge on a States tier then New England and other Northern States are the worst. The worst roads in all of America tend to be in the Yankee States from my experience.
2019-10-04 15:29
World country lier list S-tier - Germany A-Tier - EU countries B-Tier - Everything else exept USA F-Tier - USA
2019-10-04 15:22
mad
2019-10-04 15:27
dont be
2019-10-04 15:29
#104
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Sweden hyllie 
so Germany is both A- and S-tier?
2019-10-04 15:48
#127
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North America 007DBR9 
+1
2019-10-04 16:38
I doubt Germany is a whole tier higher (If It's better at all) than most Scandinavian countries. Also, there is at least 5-10 countries in Europe that are worse then the USA and I also doubt USA is a whole tier below compared to most of the EU countries (If most of them aren't even worse/on the same level as USA or pretty close at least).
2019-10-04 17:33
#76
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United States AlphaMaleHere 
wyoming A tier
2019-10-04 15:23
S Tier: TEXAS rest irrelevant
2019-10-04 15:25
Flag checks out
2019-10-04 15:39
:D
2019-10-04 15:40
#128
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North America 007DBR9 
Texas kinda cringe ngl
2019-10-04 16:38
#78
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Denmark bebm 
S Tier: New england A Tier: north mid B Tier: north west C Tier: South
2019-10-04 15:26
Texas top 1 0/8
2019-10-04 15:40
#111
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United States Nohj_10years 
Northwest is easily S tier as well.
2019-10-04 16:07
#130
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North America 007DBR9 
just no cally
2019-10-04 16:39
#136
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United States Nohj_10years 
Yea, I don't count cally as a northwest state but they definitely aren't s tier
2019-10-04 16:44
You forgot tennessee
2019-10-04 15:26
oregan isnt s tier imo, portland has hella homeless people. I'd replace oregan with NC, easily the best state in the south EDIT: also louisiana should be 1 tier up, good food
2019-10-04 15:28
#89
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Finland 7ones 
I completely agree with you, even though havent been in that many states.
2019-10-04 15:33
Why are South Carolina & Missouri so low ranked ? Heard positive things about those states, whereas I've never heard anything happening in Nebraska, also curious about that. Also, do you live in one of those S tier states ? ( trying to figure out whether you're biased or not )
2019-10-04 15:34
#110
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United States Nohj_10years 
I live in New Jersey, and these are based off actual rankings and stats and not biases and anecdotal evidence.
2019-10-04 16:07
People in Missouri were really nice when I went there, every older lady acted like a loving mother. I noticed A LOT of confederate flags in shop windows. I have heard from a lot of people there that it is a very racist state(towards black people.) The Carolina's were also nice when I went there. It just felt like a normal state though. Nebraska is Iowa but worse(no hate towards either states.) Nebraska has cities way more spread out, less densely populated(usually a good thing, but in the Midwest it gets so low that there is nothing to do.) The land is worse for farming, and that is all either are used for.
2019-10-04 16:11
#131
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North America 007DBR9 
midwest minus ohio, illinois, southern michigan, and northern indiana
2019-10-04 16:40
#93
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Finland ToxicDUD 
Greenland S tier for sure
2019-10-04 15:35
where is colorado you mongoloid
2019-10-04 15:41
#112
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United States Nohj_10years 
Would probably be A tier
2019-10-04 16:08
#101
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North America t_spawn 
Michigan tier A
2019-10-04 15:42
#132
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North America 007DBR9 
populated midwest = good tbh
2019-10-04 16:40
thanks for putting VA in A tier
2019-10-04 15:43
#103
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Sweden hyllie 
Iowa and Wyoming are S tier
2019-10-04 15:50
#106
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Guatemala meatbeater 
your list is upside down
2019-10-04 15:51
The Dakotas?
2019-10-04 15:54
#113
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United States Nohj_10years 
Between b and a tier
2019-10-04 16:10
cant put Maine in S tier without Michigan at least being A tier. Florida is S tier if you arent poor so theres that Washington is a depressing state not sure how it even made the list without you contemplating suicide just thinking of that place
2019-10-04 16:39
#134
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North America 007DBR9 
The populated midwestern states are lower ranked than I think they should be, pretty much eastern midwest but eh
2019-10-04 16:41
Have you been to Florida. It’s horrible weather and filled with so many morons, it’s insane.
2019-10-14 06:15
Well weather isnt anything we can control lol. I was saying it as if you were to visit them all when they have nice weather. Florida and Cali are near perfect on a nice day, especially cali and those mountains
2019-10-14 16:56
NJ in A tier = opinion discarded
2019-10-04 16:41
#135
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Italy mmbrnn 
why colorado is not in tier s?
2019-10-04 16:43
Why is Montana so low?
2019-10-04 16:58
#140
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Poland kinkers 
florida s+
2019-10-04 16:59
2019-10-04 17:04
#142
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Netherlands Armipotent 
Florida S tier men
2019-10-04 17:05
#143
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United States gingaaCS 
wtf where is Iowa :(((
2019-10-04 17:07
#153
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United States Nohj_10years 
Would be in between a and b tier
2019-10-04 18:20
Always thought Minnesota is one of the best states in Ameirca even tho I don't shit about ur country. Soo, north is the best overall? (pls don't bully, I don't even know where most of the states are).
2019-10-04 17:25
yes cause the North aint broke and stupid (well maybe except NY) :d
2019-10-04 17:31
What about Taiwan
2019-10-04 17:33
What about galaxy? Stfu
2019-10-07 03:53
Taiwan isn’t on there since it is a country
2019-10-14 06:15
It's a little poor crowded island hosting exile gov defeated in 1949. If you insist to call it a country then fine. They wont enjoy this title forever.
2019-10-14 07:20
#155
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Hungary subzera 
arizona
2019-10-07 03:51
#159
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United States Nohj_10years 
C tier probably
2019-10-14 05:43
as a person living in california it is S-tier
2019-10-07 03:53
#158
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United States Nohj_10years 
unless you make anything under $120,000 per year
2019-10-14 05:42
#161
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United States WumboCumbo 
California is F tier
2019-10-14 05:45
#163
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United States Nohj_10years 
arent you from cali?
2019-10-14 05:50
#164
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United States WumboCumbo 
Yes I am
2019-10-14 05:51
#166
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Germany Xantennn 
Texas?
2019-10-14 06:01
#168
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United States Nohj_10years 
B tier, could make an argument for A tier
2019-10-14 06:04
#172
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Germany Xantennn 
And hypothetically if both Canada and Mexico would be US states, which tier would they be?
2019-10-14 06:07
#174
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United States Nohj_10years 
Canada would be an obvious S tier. Mexico Would be F tier.
2019-10-14 06:08
I live in f tier state... F
2019-10-14 06:02
#169
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Germany 1112Leon 
Alaska?
2019-10-14 06:04
#170
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United States Nohj_10years 
C or F tier
2019-10-14 06:05
#171
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Germany 1112Leon 
Why
2019-10-14 06:06
#173
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United States Nohj_10years 
high murder rate(even by american standards), terrible public education, poor infrastructure.
2019-10-14 06:08
Also gave us Sarah Palin
2019-10-14 06:15
#176
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Germany Xantennn 
Hawaii? Must be S rank or retarded!
2019-10-14 06:09
f-tier represent
2019-10-14 06:12
#184
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Canada tempOcs 
maine s tier lol
2019-10-14 06:23
#188
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United States Nohj_10years 
what would you put it at?
2019-10-14 07:21
#194
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Canada tempOcs 
idk maybe B tbh
2019-10-14 08:49
California needs to be F tier
2019-10-14 06:42
#186
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United States WumboCumbo 
+1
2019-10-14 06:43
Wyoming rank?
2019-10-14 07:22
#190
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United States Nohj_10years 
B probably
2019-10-14 08:03
Ohio near the cities is A+ or S tier, Ohio in the cities themselves? Lul. Ohio in the country? Depends who you ask B tier is prob fine but I could argue A
2019-10-14 08:55
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