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The real problem of Vitality
jks | 
France ZywOoGOAT 
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2019-10-06 21:47
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#1
jks | 
France ZywOoGOAT 
I think the real problem = apex
2019-10-06 21:48
Apex is good game im playing rn
2019-10-06 22:00
#2
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Europe yungpole 
ZywOo
2019-10-06 21:48
They need second star in the team, Rn they're like NaVi with down syndrome shox isn't that good as electronic, not even talking about most overrated player - apEX which can just shit in his pants every single grand final
2019-10-06 21:50
They have a good system going, but they need better players for sure. At least that they are above navi last year.
2019-10-06 21:51
Idk if they're above NaVi from last year, NaVi 2018 was consistent #2 team in the world with few trophies and especially with ESL one cologne, Vitality this year tbh just won ECS which isn't tier1 tournament anymore, I think Vitality must sign Kennys instead of apex and make Zywoo a rifler imo Zywoo will be better rifler than awper
2019-10-06 21:53
i didn't say that. Navi last year was really good, but their system could've been better, and they could've won even more. They where a solid top 3 team no doubt, and imo, better than vitality now even (s1mple and zywoo peaks are "equal") for the last year or so that zeus became a really huge bot strat and skill wise. What i mean is that vitality system works even though they have 4 bots on the team (before shox), which makes zywoo be able to carry "easier". Last year it was all on electronic/s1mple back to really win them maps. That is what i meant
2019-10-06 21:58
I agree, I just think Vitality need dedicated AWPer like KennyS since i think Zywoo is much better with rifles than with AWP or just maybe find some better player than apEX which surely is the main problem for vitality right now
2019-10-06 22:02
+1. I think they should've kept NBK, and got rid of rpk/apex. It doesn't make any sense for me why they didn't pick kioshima, heck, now even lucky is a option.
2019-10-06 22:04
Tbh NBK as IGL was pretty good aim and skillwise he wasn't the problem, Rpk is like flamie sometimes plays like god sometimes like bot but most of the time i saw apex as the bottom fragger, I think kioshima have some internal problems with french players that's why they won't pick him
2019-10-06 22:07
#44
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Sweden DobeIWTD 
They kicked NBK because of personal issues
2019-10-06 22:13
+more Time to practice with shox -you
2019-10-06 21:48
+1 shox will bring a lot in the time to come hopefully
2019-10-06 21:50
+1
2019-10-06 22:10
Apex
2019-10-06 21:49
#8
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CIS Trashus_Losere 
Fluke teams like fnatic
2019-10-06 21:50
#9
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Serbia toENDallWARS 
i think the real probelm is that they dont even have the best french players in vitality zywoO nbk happy kennys shox thats would do it.
2019-10-06 21:51
NBK and Shox in one team? No way, Also i think ALEX can be better than Happy they need +KennyS -apex Zywoo will be better rifler than awper for sure
2019-10-06 21:54
#39
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
Happy in 2019? I've watched him playing since early Source days and he was great but he's a nobody now.
2019-10-06 22:09
The real problem of Vitality is having only one week with this roster. Next events seems very interesting, with Navi Vitality Liquid or Astralis able to win and fnatic and EG too if they manage to keep up the good work without their crowd.
2019-10-06 21:53
But changing one player isn't that much difference especially when this player isn't IGL, EG already prove they're one of the biggest contender for #1 spot Also this team rely too much on Zywoo it's looks like some vitality player rush, die and Zywoo gets trade kill not always but very often
2019-10-06 21:57
It is, as NBK was 50% IGL. EG is not contending for #1 spot so far. Only Astralis and Liquid are.
2019-10-06 21:57
Yeah i mean ofc with time they will improve but not that much, also please read my comment one more time i give some update
2019-10-06 21:58
they assume themselves to build their team that way, and it is working well so far. EG won against Astralis indeed. Which is not ultra dominant yet the most consistent team today. EG have to confirm it some way or another, what they didn't do in Malmo. Same goes with fnatic : EG and fnatic won on their soil, both have to confirm abroad now.
2019-10-06 22:02
I think EPL Finals will tell us which team is the best
2019-10-06 22:04
And if Vita or Navi wins it, we need another tournament to decide. And so on and so on. That's why I said this will be interesting events to come.
2019-10-06 22:05
Liquid era is definitely over, Once again they fall to Astralis was closer but still, And EG just wreck Astralis EG is just better version of Liquid with some tactical aspects not just rely on pure skill like Liquid do
2019-10-06 21:59
I wouldn't say "better" I would say different. Like it or not, you may not have to rely on tactics so much when you have Elige twist or even nitro by your side.
2019-10-06 22:04
I must agree EliGE is very consistent very impactful beast probably best entry and best rifler in the world but Twistzz is too inconsistent i would say NAF have more impact on their game than Twistzz, Stewie in my opinion must be replaced or they need to improve their tactical game
2019-10-06 22:05
Never been a an of Stewie yet I don't believe in the normies way of making team better : "-x +y". Liquid would improve with better tactics indeed. But don't forget that liquid is not as tacticless as people think. They were one of the top 3 team in antistrating their opponent with ENCE during their prime. Also yes, when I wrote my previous comment I was thinking "I dont name him so I'm underrating NAF". NAF problem is : despite being consistant, he is not one of the best in his category : snipers. Unlike, for exemple, Elige is as rifler, or Twist is as an anchor.
2019-10-06 22:10
#27
jks | 
France ZywOoGOAT 
imgur.com/a/dlhR4Zx feel sad for Zywoo
2019-10-06 22:02
apex playing bad
2019-10-06 21:55
zywoo is too overrated, we dont remember hes kills ; ) team need help this not bad player to do something
2019-10-06 21:55
#18
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Peru devbot 
-rpktank +sexer
2019-10-06 21:55
-apex
2019-10-06 21:56
#34
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Canada dennek 
fucking dogs talking about changing the whole team because they just lost a only one grand final with new player. hltv needs mature people who can think fucking normally. these fucking kids act like they know everything
2019-10-06 22:06
+1
2019-10-06 22:10
Vitality needs kennyS as primary awper, ZywOo 2nd/hybrid
2019-10-06 22:07
#37
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Germany PeKay 
The problem with vitality is they have a top 2 Player in zywoo rest are Tier 3 Shox rpk apex are so washed up since years
2019-10-06 22:08
#43
Puls3 | 
World bigb1rd 
Such a load of bollocks. Any team with 4 supposed 'Tier 3' players wouldn't have been in the top5 for most of the year, or regularly reach playoffs, or win best of 3s over established teams. Just accept that they have a solid team with good players but they're lucky enough to also have one of the best players in the world who would shine on ANY team he played on.
2019-10-06 22:12
Only zywoo shows up to events, his teammates just chill in the hotel room
2019-10-06 22:10
#45
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Sweden plikz 
apex
2019-10-06 22:16
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