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when does MM actually get good lol
United States Peekaboo821 
LEM is full of bots. Know one knows smokes if you hold a flush angle u can get triple kills its like lvl 1 faceit My friend won't pay for ESEA or Faceit. Is it always this bad? NA MM btw
2019-10-08 16:42
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Europe Barry11 
sadly yes but free faceit is okay
2019-10-08 16:43
That's unfortunate, I know even the casual fan base (like myself) wants 128 tick and some sort of valve operated ESEA or Faceit system for people who like to grind out their game. I'm so average it hurts and LEM is what top 3% elo?
2019-10-08 16:45
United States JoshDAA 
No, LEM is not top 3% of elo, and 128 isnt needed, i prefer bugs getting fixed than useless 128 tick
2019-10-08 16:47
How is 128 tick useless friend? It makes the movement so much nicer, and if that by itself isn't enough I guess Valve was right all along.
2019-10-08 16:51
That's literally placebo
2019-10-08 16:54
Possibly. I feel like fast cat is a bit rougher on 64 tick, and a few long jumps that you bhop into are harder.
2019-10-08 16:55
It does make everything a bit better but not nearly as much as people think
2019-10-08 16:56
Portugal xxxruixxx 
Totally agree. Some things feels just a little bit easier/smoother on 128 ticks - particularly spraying bhopping and long jumps, but the difference is not as big as some people "paint" it. It´s actually almost negligible. And in my case, I usually have a much better ping on MM than on FaceiT (because of the MM and FaceIT´s servers relative locations to where I am). My biggest reason to prefer to play FaceIT is because, on average, you will play with and against better players, not because of the tickrate... I just tend to play more MM because most of my friends almost only play MM...
2019-10-09 11:50
3kliksphillip made a video about it a while ago and people couldn't tell the difference between 128 and 64
2019-10-09 11:50
Portugal xxxruixxx 
Naaa.... he didn´t say that... he said that there is a difference, but it´s negligible, and there are other factors that dwarf or could counterbalance the improvement you will get with 128 tick over 64, like how good/loaded the server is and your ping.
2019-10-09 12:07
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Brazil faustarpp 
3kliksphilip put on a video showing how people can't tell the difference between 64 and 128 on a blind test.
2019-10-09 11:34
Sweden bakish 
The difference is just like when you are switching back to a 60hz monitor from a 120hz+. It's laggy AF
2019-10-08 16:59
New Zealand paypal_me_pls 
There isnt a difference lmao
2019-10-08 21:52
Sweden bakish 
You're just a bit to slow to grasp it then, To me it's night and day.. It's the same when I go back to using shitty apple earpods, they sound like I'm on the toilet with laptop speakers compared to a real pair of headphones Same goes for 60hz v/s 120hz, same goes for 64tick v/s 128 tick When you see it, you can never unsee it
2019-10-08 23:29
New Zealand paypal_me_pls 
brought one, passed it on to my brother. useless, didnt see the difference.
2019-10-09 11:26
Australia CaZeR01 
2019-10-08 22:36
no its not wtf?? 60hz is unplayable after 144hz but mm is still playable you only notice little differences
2019-10-09 11:31
Portugal xxxruixxx 
Yeah, lol. 60hz to 144hz is night and day. 64 tick to 128 tick is not. A better analogy would be between 144hz and 240hz...
2019-10-09 11:51
personally havent tested 240hz so i have no idea about that
2019-10-09 12:52
United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
nah, i cant spray in 64 tick so i always awp in mm, but on faceit i can spray wayy better so mainly rifle.
2019-10-08 18:36
Yeah it feels a bit off sometimes, I think it's cause counter strafing in 64 tick feels off so your first bullet has inaccuracy, other than that I can adjust pretty quickly. You may have a different experience.
2019-10-08 18:41
Do you know what placebo means?
2019-10-08 21:31
United Kingdom alcaz4r_ 
its really not placebo, its something that i noticed over time and then googled to see if anyone else felt it, and they did.
2019-10-08 21:46
its not placebo. 128 has faster feedback.
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I think that's mainly though because the servers are better in general. Playing 128 tick on a shit server doesn't do much at all. I think overall better server quality would be a better improvement than 128 tick.
2019-10-08 20:47
LEM is top 3% elo
2019-10-08 16:53
It's about top 7%.
2019-10-08 20:50
top 7% among bots.
2019-10-09 11:36
Yeah I agree Free Faceit is okay, people at least know basic protocol and executes. It doesn't compare to hubs, but then again nothing does.
2019-10-08 16:46
halo | 
United States fraus 
depends where youre from, in the US youll get chinese people 50% of the time and the rest youll get people without mics
2019-10-08 17:21
They also can't figure out one ways lol, its a travesty. I'm not even mechanically gifted and having a field day with LEM
2019-10-08 16:43
Ukraine ReanuKeeves 
Yes I'm one of those who suck most of the time and then has breathtaking ace.
2019-10-08 16:47
thank god never played NA mm. But I get cancer players. Mostly Chinese/south east asian or russian or EU players. MM is not good tbf.
2019-10-08 16:47
United States koth 
just play faceit free
2019-10-08 16:47
I've also been pushing Faceit free, my buddy has really bad confidence issues, so I'll have to talk to him into it, which is a shame cause he is honestly 100x more mechanically skilled than me.
2019-10-08 16:48
EspiranTo | 
Lithuania SiK_ 
how are you american, yet with worse grammar/vocabulary than a European 7th grader?
2019-10-08 16:51
You actually want me to create proper sentences on HLTV? What difference does it make for a thread you're going to forget about in 10 seconds?
2019-10-08 16:53
Nice save
2019-10-08 17:15
United States koth 
You get better playing better people
2019-10-08 18:00
We're casuals who tryhard, he has potential, but I found out years ago I don't make the cut.
2019-10-08 18:28
United States koth 
I have played vs lvl 2 and 3s they are absolute trash. You cant be that bad.
2019-10-08 22:00
When I grinded out senior year in high school I reached A on ESEA which is average for those who really take the game seriously and really GRIND, now that I've got a 9-5 and all this other shit to do I'll never be more than average casual player. If I was talented I probably would be streaming for a living rather than working, maybe it's possible for you!
2019-10-08 22:33
Even global elite players are jokes in eu mm. I struggle in faceit level 6 but i can drop 30+ in every global elite mm. Idk why i struggle in faceit lvl 6 this much, i watch my teammates and most of them cant even aim for shit, have bad sprays, react slower than my grandma but they still can deliver 25+. it is me being unlucky, i guess.
2019-10-08 16:51
Sometimes when you're the best player in the server you start to overcommit and kind of suicide for one kill just because you know you're the best in the server. I guess just take your time and the 30 bombs will follow.
2019-10-08 16:50
"it is me being unlucky, i guess." name checks out
2019-10-08 16:50
Because the way those opponent plays counter your playstyle like caughting you off guard and push spots where you wont expect,peeking you when u wont expect ,it happens to me , i drop 25+ against high ranks while when i play with my friend who is gn i dont drop that many kills
2019-10-08 17:21
Move to Europe
2019-10-08 16:49
India Bhookhiatma 
Good enough for people who play at 60 fps
2019-10-08 16:50
Indonesia Elce 
Never play mm, faceit so much better
2019-10-08 16:50
NA Lem is like Nova's in EU so there's that
2019-10-08 16:52
No wonder EU CS is so good.
2019-10-08 16:55
you obviously havent played eu lem. Im lem on mm and a- on esea but cant win by dropping +30 frags every game since these bots cant throw a single good smoke or flash
2019-10-08 16:56
I play on EU supreme
2019-10-08 17:09
well na must be shit then since eu lem is a complete shitshow with players who cant aim for shit
2019-10-08 18:25
Aim is good, gamesense, map knowledge, and nade usage are silver level, but they can flick and one tap all day.
2019-10-08 18:34
thats not eu :D. Idk if its because i get mainly russians and polaks but they have 0 aim and 0 map knowledge.
2019-10-08 20:31
+1 both my troll accounts are on this rank and i bought them second hand on silver, been rofling all way long still win ~70%. Games with only revolver etc.
2019-10-08 22:19
Finland Karppanator 
If you have to ask this you know that you haven't gotten to global
2019-10-08 17:16
I did in 2016, I have no reason to do it again when I have ESEA. The only reason I'm playing MM is because of one of my childhood friends.
2019-10-08 17:52
Japan Hentai_Guy 
Servers are absolutely dog shit i don't know why any one would unironically play that shit
2019-10-08 17:19
Wtf is a flush angle?
2019-10-08 18:34
Silver or bad englando?
2019-10-08 18:34
Never heard of it in eu, thats why i asked.
2019-10-08 18:35
Sorry for being rude. It's an off-angle in line with cover. A "flush" angle. It's a common term in ESEA A ranks
2019-10-08 18:38
I can provide screenshot if that isn't a good enough description.
2019-10-08 18:39
Gotcha, thanks 😎
2019-10-08 18:42
flusha | 
Finland ))) 
2019-10-08 22:39
cry is free
2019-10-08 18:36
More like bored is 15 bucks
2019-10-08 18:39
United States Degree|CSGO 
Faceit isn’t much better I do t know if I play against a lot of bad wall hackers but I generally get better teammates and harder enemies in mm than faceit
2019-10-08 20:40
What coast are you on, I'm in the LA area and it's not terrific over here. When I lived in NJ everyone seemed really good though.
2019-10-08 21:45
United States Degree|CSGO 
I live hour south of LA.
2019-10-08 21:49
edit: Damn I typed all that out just for you to edit your post lmao. all good though <3
2019-10-08 21:55
United States Degree|CSGO 
2019-10-09 17:18
Na lem=Eu gold nova 2
2019-10-08 21:53
other way around buddy
2019-10-08 22:15
eveybody in my rank dmg knows a smoke or 2 ik everysmoke
2019-10-08 22:01
Play the brazilian MM with 200 ping for the real challenge men 😎👌
2019-10-08 22:32
Not mechanically gifted enough for that bro!
2019-10-08 22:34
0/30 every game for suree
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zews | 
Brazil faustarpp 
LEM varies so much from team to team, damn. There are teams that are calm and understand the need to understand how the other team is playing in order to counter them, often they will go for a peek if they have the right respawn or will wait to get an advantage somewhere else. But, more often, you will get people that will call a RUSH B and press S just to let everyone get ahead of them and get the trades afterwards.
2019-10-09 11:37
Denmark Notallama 
Well.. yeah. Back when I played I reached global without knowing anything other than the most basic smokes and flashes.. I just never bothered to learn them. My aim and knowledge from 1.6 was enough to get me where I wanted to be, although I had some weaknesses. I guess I would be LE/LEM today at max, if I should choose to play again.
2019-10-09 12:04
Just play with bots smh
2019-10-09 12:06
friberg | 
Norway m4GOD^ 
mm is either piss easy or impossible in global:)
2019-10-09 12:07
Brazil st4rkiNNgo 
lol wait... is it possilbe to get supreme without cheats??? when i was playing on my account it had red trust factor ... and i got hvh players ... and then i bought myself a privat hack and was so mad was shooting true walls and 5hs dgl and got vaced...
2019-10-09 12:56
friberg | 
Norway m4GOD^ 
xd cant tell if u are joking, but yes u obviously can
2019-10-09 13:36
Brazil trevz 
mm is Just for fun
2019-10-09 12:56
Happy | 
Russia Jovik! 
I like you but I can't help you. Change your taste in men! That will change your style again.
2019-10-09 13:02
pretty much doesnt matter where or what rank you play at. its just mostly people releasing their rage/hate on others unless you play premade. i mostly play solo and would be nice to have queues to play against who also play solo. 128 tick and maps like tuscan where are you`?? faceit servers worse than mm even tho 128 tick idk if you pay do you get better servers too.
2019-10-09 13:13
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