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TOP 5 WASTED TALENTS
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Russia grEminence 
1. Niko 2. k0nfig 3. ScreaM 4. Hobbit 5. kng Thaughts?
2019-10-08 23:58
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#1
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Russia grEminence 
Up
2019-10-08 23:59
#6
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Europe pencilvester 
Down
2019-10-09 00:01
#2
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
swag
2019-10-09 00:00
#3
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Russia grEminence 
oh, forgot about him
2019-10-09 00:01
#4
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Fuk him. I mean really, he is nothing that a aim machine
2019-10-09 00:01
#5
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
still wasted aim machine, like screamy
2019-10-09 00:01
#7
shox | 
Europe Toxic91 
hes quite smart though
2019-10-09 00:01
#15
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
I never seen a smart clip from him. The only clips i saw was just him shooting and shooting.
2019-10-09 00:03
#54
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Switzerland Infi2k 
Well my Friend, that boii is playing a shooter game, so whats wrong if he is shooting and shooting?
2019-10-09 00:29
#57
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
I mean, cs is more than just shooting and killing and you know that. That is the main reason i like players like DaZeD, Steel rather than god aim players.
2019-10-09 00:34
OmegaLul you think DaZeD is smart?
2019-10-09 00:36
#62
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Thats why he was one of the best NA igls in the game right? But you guys dont care him cuz you think he is ToXiC
2019-10-09 00:41
when he was "one of the best NA igls" NA was dogshit.
2019-10-09 00:40
#66
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
That has been said by pro players and they also knew it. Stop acting like you didn't know that.
2019-10-09 00:42
#67
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Switzerland Infi2k 
yeah but its a important point aswell, and if they would put Swag in to a better team, he could proof his real skill. Ofc you see him only shooting and shooting now days, but its because he`s playing Tier 5 or less... But remember the Time, he played for Ibuy Power. It was the only NA team at that moment on EU- Scene skill lvl. And he was like 16y old
2019-10-09 00:42
#70
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Yes he was agood player whit godlike aim but i never seen something from him that did smart.(nor saying he is dumb just saying i never seen something clever from him)
2019-10-09 00:44
#73
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Switzerland Infi2k 
So what else did he do in 2014, compared to the 2018 Nr. 1 player aka Goat aka S1mple? Isn`t it smart enough, to use your main talent combined with a little bit of knowlege and gamesense, to out aim and outplay your enemies...
2019-10-09 00:51
#76
DaZeD | 
Turkey qubeKs 
Bro i am not saying anything about him this is just my opinion about him. I dont even care those t1 players like s1mple
2019-10-09 00:53
#8
woxic | 
Canada georghe 
xantares
2019-10-09 00:02
#9
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Russia grEminence 
ONLINETARES?
2019-10-09 00:02
#10
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
where is tenZ ?
2019-10-09 00:02
#11
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Russia grEminence 
irrelevant
2019-10-09 00:03
#14
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Russia grEminence 
he's still 16 tho
2019-10-09 00:03
#19
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
he is 18, and he is wasted in cloud9 he would be much more useful in a team like NRG
2019-10-09 00:04
#24
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Russia grEminence 
NRG?
2019-10-09 00:06
#28
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
yu know what i mean
2019-10-09 00:07
WTF? The guy has done absolutely nothing and you want him to get a spot on NRG just like that? Who would he even replace?
2019-10-09 00:10
#35
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
He was carrying all NA t2 team just as a stand-in. Now he is carrying cloud9 but his mate are not following
2019-10-09 00:11
Carrying cloud9 huh? How many games have you seen, 1?
2019-10-09 00:13
#40
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
recently cloud9 are doing so badly but we all saw the potential of tenZ and he is just wasting in it a team dat doesn't deserve him
2019-10-09 00:14
Couldn't possibly disagree more with you.
2019-10-09 00:16
#45
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
so you disagree that cloud9 are doing badly , and that tenZ has a great potential ?
2019-10-09 00:17
I'm wasting my time here, I'm feeling but ok, i'll try to explain it to you. Tenz has potential, yes, but so does A LOT of other players. Showing some form of talent (in tenz case its only aim) doesn't automatically guarantee you a spot on one of the world greatest teams when you personally haven't accomplished ANYTHING whatsoever. With your logic, Astralis should kick someone on their team and bring in Tenz, ''tenz has a great potential''. He deserves nothing better than Cloud9 right now, it is in this team that he must shine if he is actually any good at all. It is in this team that he must prove himself. Performing in tier 2 NA means absolutely nothing, plenty of players do that. I bet you are/were a fan of scream and shroud. It's the same shit every year, a player with sick aim and nothing else and people think that he might be the best in the world. Aim is related to potential and talent, but it's nowhere close to being all of it.
2019-10-09 00:26
#56
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
As you can see im a fan of zywoo, not of scream or shroud. But yeah plenty of players are performing well in T2 NA but not like tenZ did. He was carrying all T2 team as a stand-in, not as a official member. So he could adapt a lot of team without even playing with them before and shine more than other top tier 2 players that play regularly. Zywoo was playing in tier 3 team some random shit team, he could never get attention before. But when we put him with the good teamate and t1 players he shine and he could really show what he was capable of.
2019-10-09 00:32
Sure but any player could be good if you put them on one of the best teams in the world but those teams dont necessarily want or need you. Broky is good example of this, he showed potential but faze didnt bring him in on trial because of that, they brought him in because they are desperate. If tenz is as good as you seem to think he is than he should be out of cloud9 and joining faze or whatever in no time.
2019-10-09 00:38
#65
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
Broky is not bad, i think his level is good enough to play in faze. But no, if you just have to put a shit guy with good teamate to make him a good player it would be known xD.
2019-10-09 00:41
I said that any player COULD be good with good teammates and you yourself said about zywoo ''But when we put him with the good teamate and t1 players he shine''. Put any young talent on Astralis and he will instantly become a better player, no doubt in my mind about that.
2019-10-09 00:43
#72
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
He shine because zywoo is a real talented player too. Its not only about teamate you must have the talent already. Yeah but there is not much young talent that play good as often as zywoo.
2019-10-09 00:46
Sure but Zywoo IS proving himself worthy and good and he is also doing it often just like you said. Tenz has only been good in tier 2 NA which means nothing and he's had a few good matches with cloud9, that is not enough to be worthy of being on a top 5 in the world team. I think you are giving him waaay to much respect already, he should be earning it in time, not just get it for free.
2019-10-09 00:51
Autimatic ain't that bad overall
2019-10-09 00:13
#41
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
he is average now, before he was much more better
2019-10-09 00:14
Well before he had better teams and he was usually the carry. Well other than the Katowice C9, kio, flusha, and him were always on top.
2019-10-09 00:15
#46
ZywOo | 
Korea soju_c 
yeah but now he is not on top
2019-10-09 00:17
Not enough Matches imo. I use the 3 month rule to judge a roster. Like Autimatic is doing pretty well in the several recent matches. Also, not enough maps for him it is only 20 maps in the last 3 months . That is not a lot man. However, the esl pro league groups for C9 start Friday. Will be a good judge if C9 is will rise out of the NA mediocrity or not.
2019-10-09 00:20
#12
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
niko instead of niko and its good list
2019-10-09 00:03
#16
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Russia grEminence 
wut
2019-10-09 00:03
#17
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Turkey headshotk1ng 
Niko far better than niko bro wtf
2019-10-09 00:04
#21
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Russia grEminence 
yes, but still
2019-10-09 00:05
Well, Niko and kng are the only ones who have made themselves to waste their talent.....dude I cant form that sentence properly xD
2019-10-09 00:03
#20
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Russia grEminence 
yes, attitude and laziness of Niko and genes of kng
2019-10-09 00:05
yeah
2019-10-09 20:22
I could only really remember 2. 1. Swag 2. Shroud Edit: Maybe Disco_Doplan? I dont know how many people remember this but he was actually the first out of all former Epsilon-players to get a trial-position in NIP. Since then his career has gone straight down.
2019-10-09 00:08
#25
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Russia grEminence 
1. mayb 2. just a good aim
2019-10-09 00:07
1. Dev1ce 2. Gla1ve 3. Xyp1x 4. Mag1sk 5. D1preeh
2019-10-09 00:06
#26
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Russia grEminence 
washed up
2019-10-09 00:07
No they are wasted, all of them are playing with bad players that shouldn't play proffesionaly
2019-10-09 00:10
#27
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United States FrothaIPBan 
Infinite You won’t know of em but he’s definitely wasted
2019-10-09 00:08
#29
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Russia grEminence 
who
2019-10-09 00:08
#30
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United States FrothaIPBan 
American noob
2019-10-09 00:08
#31
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United States FrothaIPBan 
Just search his stats on hltv hltv.org/matches/2336509/singularity-vs-..
2019-10-09 00:10
#32
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Germany MackyGee 
Jeyn
2019-10-09 00:10
#36
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Denmark idkwhoami 
Pretty accurate, couldnt come up with better list myself right now
2019-10-09 00:12
#39
NEO | 
Poland Danahil 
Pasha, Neo, Taz, Kuben, Loord
2019-10-09 00:14
#44
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Russia aks1131 
H0bbit😭😭😭
2019-10-09 00:16
#47
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Israel FRIsaac 
Xyp9x dupreeh gla1ve device Magisk
2019-10-09 00:18
#48
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United Kingdom DragosAS 
kng, scream, bondik, HS, docc, kng, swag, cosmeen
2019-10-09 00:19
#53
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Israel FRIsaac 
kng > kng
2019-10-09 00:28
Bondik, docc??? Axaxaxaxaxaxa
2019-10-09 00:40
#71
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United Kingdom DragosAS 
both were really hyped, now bondik is shit and docc is nowhere to be seen
2019-10-09 00:44
k0nfig LUL
2019-10-09 00:20
#75
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Brazil NiceBrazilian 
He was a beast in 2017 dude
2019-10-09 00:52
#51
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United Kingdom Cryaosic 
How is NiKo wasted I don't know.First time in years that he plays below his level and he is somehow wasted. Also hes been pretty good so far , last series and this one he was pretty good...
2019-10-09 00:23
Stewie. His spot on Liquid is a wasted spot as of recently.
2019-10-09 00:30
#58
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United States FrothaIPBan 
+1
2019-10-09 00:34
-scream his aim is near perfect, his game sense is lacking.
2019-10-09 00:35
Dosia
2019-10-09 00:43
I would put niko lower, while his 2019 was a train wreck, being in faze under karrigan for 2017, and the most of 2018 is about as ideal of a situation as you can see from him considering hes from bosnia. Hes hard to place because he is the most talented but also the most successful. I would put k0nfig 1, not only has he wasted his talent, he is from fucking Denmark, so not bieng able to find good teams is his fault.
2019-10-09 01:20
xartE
2019-10-09 20:24
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