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do u guys know how much ur debt is? do u know that u will never have the money to pay it back? that being said you are not top1 in the world and china owns you thanks bye
2019-10-10 13:57
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Doesn't every western country have insane debts? I think China is one of the few countries without debts
2019-10-10 13:58
Not really. many western countries is actually either paying of lowering the debt, or is bassicly debt free.. Ofc there is places like Greece and Italy and such if you call them "western" Us have around 20 trillion dollars of debt. and indeed will never pay it back. Take Greece and its around 350 billion dollars. so far less. but ofc also a much smaller eco than the US. And also. when you get to know how it works and not just look at numbers. many of these nation actually choose to have some national debt even though they could remove it because it make a stronger overall economy. Take the places like Norway or Denmark, they choose to keep "trading" in national debt that some call it instead of removing it completely. since it actually gives an overall stronger eco. However its still very low. and it dont work when you go to the US kind of debt. where the nation is run by the debt and not the other way around. So well.. a lot to it. but in any rate.. not all western countries have insane debts. far from it.
2019-10-10 14:15
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Germany Shadyy89 
its a german site but you can see all eu nations depts here (live) smava.de/eurozone-schulden-uhr/
2019-10-10 14:31
You can find those things about everything and every langauge. And it changes nothing of what I said. confirms it. That site alone dont show how debt works. many do. much information.. people dont know anything by knowing one thing. and debt is way more that one statistic. There is also the different kind of debt. and as said the choice to have a dept but bassicly not be in dept because you have reserves that cover that debt you choose to have. There is so many aspect people need to know before choosing to speak of such a thing. at least in detail. if you dont know the sides of all those things. keep it simple.. Then yes the US have an insane amount of debt. and is not able to pay it. No all western nation dont have insane debts.. And like the link you send, shows all. and shows nothing. it shows 1 thing. and that thing only. but that number dont really mean that much if you dont hold it up against all the other information. like sure Greece dont actually owe that much. but when you put all the other aspects into it. its actually close to being broken and held up by loans. And that is the thing. that is not information. its no the whole truth. its simply 1 truth. and if you dont understand that, ( not just with this but with all information ) you often get it wrong. something that happens alot. people think they know something. but infact they only know one thing but for some reason take that as a clear image of the entire issue.
2019-10-10 15:05
#67
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Germany Shadyy89 
I know what you mean and you are right. Still these are the current depts, even if it doesn't show the 'whole' of truth you mentioned. I never ment to deny what you said btw, just provided some numbers :P
2019-10-10 16:06
#61
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Sweden flippig 
where can i find rest of eu countries like swedeN?
2019-10-10 15:53
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Germany Shadyy89 
Google it, in Germany we call it 'Schuldenuhr' (dept-clock or dept timer). I'm sure you'll find it. Am on mobile right now and bad internet
2019-10-10 16:08
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Denmark Notallama 
You don't seem to know how public debt works.
2019-10-10 17:14
Puplic debt is one of many things. and one debt is always just one. its all of them that gives the complete picture of something. I guess you need to look that up if things dont seem so to you :)
2019-10-10 17:41
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Denmark Notallama 
You seem to say that all public debt is bad. No, you don't seem to know basic macroeconomics.
2019-10-10 17:59
I bassicly say something very different. Even say many nations that could be debt free choose to have a debt because its actually a better way. Not only nations that is in - in the ratio dept. like Norway but also nations like Denmark and such.. Because controlled debt actually brings in more money. But that is not what the US do. and the US debt is out of control. way over a 100%+
2019-10-10 18:34
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Denmark Notallama 
Yeah the US has a debt which is over 100% of their GDP, which is unique. The way they can make it work is because of their huge spending per capita. Although it's not ideal, especially considering the increasing wealth inequality gap and influence of China, it works.
2019-10-10 19:00
It works because its allowed. its not good in anyway. a company couldnt run like that. other nations cant run like that.. The US have a 20 trillion debt, a debt they can never get rid of and is not even paying off on. in that sense it gets bigger and bigger for each year as it is. Thus its not a debt in control. and not stable. or healthy like you see other nations do where the debt control is a tool. to keep the nation stable... Thus. Cant say it work really. its held togehter, and is not good. But that is just a talk about how you look at it and nothing to do with the actual facts about it. And nothing to do with your wrong claims in your comment.
2019-10-10 19:23
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China SwooksarV2 
China has a shit ton of debt. I think we have around 5 trillion of government debt
2019-10-10 14:29
#27
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Portugal Zedonp 
5 trillion is not that much when china is one of the strongest economys and has alot of income
2019-10-10 14:37
#85
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Slovakia zabrak159783 
The same applies to the US, they are still the strongest country on earth, meaning their debt is practically useless as long as they hold their ground as wolds superpower.
2019-10-10 16:55
#107
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Portugal Zedonp 
5 trillion is also not 20 trillion and USA economy is slowing down and all they can do is try to slow other economys down so they don't lose their superpower status
2019-10-11 13:16
#110
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Slovakia zabrak159783 
Chinese economy is slowing down rather quickly since Trump has been a president, ofc they still grow faster than the western countries, but thats just because China is still a developing country but not for long. If americas debt is 20 or 50 trillion doesnt matter AS LONG AS they are still the strongest economy and political power on earth.
2019-10-11 13:55
Chinas debt ratio is actually pretty low. where as the US is out of scale meaning over a 100%
2019-10-10 17:42
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Norway k3ron 
Smh head..
2019-10-10 13:58
What a useless comment. Like what am i supposed to respond with? *Thank you* ? Please delete this comment or i will post it on r/cringe .
2019-10-10 14:03
#12
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Norway k3ron 
USA shouldn't pay debts because it is part of world economy.
2019-10-10 14:06
Yes China owns us... That's why they've been getting hammered by the trade war worse than anyone else... Also China kinda fucked themselves over by buying debt with money they don't have.
2019-10-10 13:58
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Norway Bigg1 
Chinas gdp is constantly growing, what are you on about trumps tariffs are crushing American farmers and the factories that use steel an alu
2019-10-10 14:03
It's hurting us too, but it's hurting China more than anyone else, just like a said before...
2019-10-10 14:04
#10
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Norway Bigg1 
Thought it was America first.....
2019-10-10 14:05
We are first (in gdp of course)
2019-10-10 14:06
#14
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Norway Bigg1 
8th but okey, but don’t get how you can say America first and then actively hurt yourself just to try to fuck with another country
2019-10-10 14:10
China needed to be slowed. They are lies and cheats. They don't belong in the modern world. And no, we are first in gdp
2019-10-10 14:11
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China tralia 
ofc, china don't deserve to compare with murica, wat a shit country
2019-10-10 14:13
0/8 China is one of the most oppressive and cruel regimes in the world. The practices the government uses daily are below any true Western country.
2019-10-10 15:25
#17
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Norway Bigg1 
What even does “lies and cheats” mean? Why do they need to be stopped? You are right about gdp ofcorse, confused it gdp pr capita
2019-10-10 14:14
By lies I mean lying about wealth, happiness, and capability. By cheats I primarily mean stealing patents, but there's a lot more they cheat with
2019-10-10 15:18
whilist you are busy with immigrants and shit china is buying your power grids etc, cant u see out of the box? out of the USA USA TOP1 box i mean
2019-10-10 14:24
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Portugal Zedonp 
Even the gamming industry i owned by china. There is almost nothing that make s aprofit that china doesn't have their hands in.
2019-10-10 14:39
American's are delusion from a lifetime of USA top1 propaganda. In the US you are constantly being told how much better you are than the rest of the world. It's constant brainwashing here of USA top1. They will literally go so far as to say that 'America' is the only free place on earth and create this mindset that the US is this special land of freedom that is so much greater than all other places. American pride is extreme and I'm not sure outsiders realise how much this is beat into American's mind from early childhood into adulthood. The writing is on the wall though. The US is run by criminals who are exploiting it's military strength and business positions. The day will come when the US will experience a major collapse and probably internal war.
2019-10-10 15:08
#48
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China tralia 
we can see more american brainless patriot , the truth is there are more nationalist than the chinese whom are always blamed to. actually, a lot of chinese admire the US. ps. MAGA
2019-10-10 15:32
The US is a great place to live excepting certain areas in each State. But the mindless US worship that most Americans are guilty of is dangerous and slavish to the extreme. It's natural to love the land of ones birth but many Americans take it further and believe that America is the only good country on earth and all others are second rate at best. I love my native State/Country of Virginia and will always defend her when attacked by ignorant people. But my love for Virginia does not cause me to worship her as a goddess. People have made their countries into gods.
2019-10-10 15:46
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China tralia 
yeah, glad that you move to a fabulous place, Swiss definety better than US, and see ing you have a critical thinking which is so valued in US
2019-10-10 16:11
I'm a fake flagger because HLTV doesn't have a flag I can use in good conscience. I hate the US flag and will never use it voluntarily. If HLTV had Virginia's flag I would use it.
2019-10-10 16:36
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China tralia 
xddd, everyone have their choice, hoping that everyone in hltv can be not so radical, cuz it is real international site(even not banned in china)
2019-10-10 16:51
I agree. I never disrespect any user. I'm a grown man and don't spend my spare time trolling on the internet.
2019-10-11 05:17
You're dumb if you think China is using real money. They buy debt with money they don't have. They steal patents and lie about their inferiority. I never said USA was the best. I said we had the highest gdp. China is in debt to dumbass. The world debt is more than 240 trillion USD. Who do you think is buying off that debt? Aliens? Nobody is. Get that through your thick uneducated European rock you call a brain.
2019-10-10 15:24
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China tralia 
pls go to read the <macroeconomic (n.gregory mankiw)> before express you opinion, there are all mistakes in you speech, it is wasting time for people to correct you.
2019-10-10 15:38
Seriously you don't understand? Debt is higher than gdp. It's called a deficit and its caused by people like Trump and ping spending money they don't have. I wouldn't expect a Chinese nationalist to have any sort of education though
2019-10-10 15:44
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China tralia 
first, china own so much usa debt becasue china has a huge trade surplus to usa, even it last at least 10 years, china earn a lot of USD, but it only able to buy your debt. secnd, the ultra debt of usa don't matter as serious as you think, usa can print the USD without cost to pay it. the last, check #48
2019-10-10 15:53
I'm aware the debt doesnt matter as much as it is made to seem, but it is reason for concern. Again, China doesnt have money to buy the us debt with. They simply don't. No way around it.
2019-10-10 15:55
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China tralia 
you still don't understand the international trade, china real have so much money to buy your debt, this money come form the trade surplus which trump pay high attention to, the USD in china is useless, because we don't see it as currency, it only thing useful is to buy USA debt, it is no other way, eventhough we don't want to. otherwise, the USD is waiting to inflation. the another reason is your govrnt is soooo love to borrow money from the world.
2019-10-10 16:04
Jesus what don't you understand about this? China doesn't have enough trade surplus money to buy the debt they are buying. I don't know how much more clear I can be. They are spending more than they have to spend. So either one of two things is true. They are either lying or they are cheating, hence them being lying cheats
2019-10-10 16:06
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China tralia 
okay, you mean china are brorrowing money to buy the debt, or where the money come from?
2019-10-10 16:17
It came from thin air because it never existed! They are buying debt with money that doesn't exist!
2019-10-10 16:20
#72
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China tralia 
whata genius!! yo definetly earn a nobel economic prize! sweden may come to find you, waiting at home bro!
2019-10-10 16:24
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2019-10-10 20:04
Change your flag, filthy Viatnamese school dropout.
2019-10-10 14:28
Fuck off. I'm more American than your sorry ass could ever wish to be. I'm so white Hitler would fuck me. Get outta here
2019-10-10 15:21
Also you are aware large parts of Vietnam actively support and encourage the Chinese government right?
2019-10-10 15:21
You're as American as that junk burger I ate in the morning, just as filthy and destructive to us, actual yankees. You're the outcome of the fake freedom, completely clueless on things that are not connected to fast food in any way, prejudiced and over patriotic without any knowledge. B. Gone.
2019-10-10 15:32
Hmm you say words with no value. You haven't given any logical defenses to your claim other than saying I only know about fast food. Whereas if you learned to read or use Google or watch the news, you'd see that I am not wrong in anything I've said. Typical brainwashed leftie probably from California or NY.
2019-10-10 15:34
"They are lies and cheats", don't know what basement you're watching the news from but that indecipherable crap makes no sense within the states. Grow outta your diapers and spew that taco out, Mr. NA guy. I'm so tired of those constantly talking without any idea kidsters.
2019-10-10 15:37
#45 and #41 might help you. Again, learn to read
2019-10-10 15:41
None of what you said is backed up or actually can be, it's just your opinion and halfway knowledge on the subject that isn't half as easy to get as it may seem to your patriotic brain. We're not in the position to speak out from the high ground, get your spaghetti noodled legs back on the ground and focus on your own life.
2019-10-10 15:44
Ok sir. Stealing patents and lying about your capabilities isn't lying and cheating it's just playing fair. Keep telling yourself this and maybe you'll end up getting your Visa to China in the next year. I hear you need quite a few social credit points to be given that privilege!
2019-10-10 15:50
We'd done a lot more throughout the recent history and yet I'd never see the same tag applied to us, is that you or China is a lot more significant than the US? You can keep quiet if you wish, I've no joy talking to you.
2019-10-10 15:56
I can't stand dumb fucks like you that believe that the US government is doing the same that the chinese are. I mean c'mon, let's be honest. I haven't seen the us harvesting organs from minority populations recently. I also haven't seen the us going into well functioning Democratic regions and killing their freedoms. But you'll go cry about Iran and Iraq and Afghanistan won't you? I'm sorry we don't appreciate people who support terrorists that send attacks after us. You're as brainwashed as the Chinese replying to me right now if you seriously think that. Have a good day. You're a lost cause
2019-10-10 16:04
Stop your damn obsession with China, I didn't mention them for once. We have sinned as much if not more, despite how short our history is and you go ranting about Chinese scheming here while you keep blind to what we do/did in the past. And China is much more preferable country regarding some questions, than the US.
2019-10-10 16:33
The past is the past. Also if you wanna talk about the past so bad, why don't you look at the cultural revolution? China has kids more of it's own than any other nation, maybe excluding Russia. You are the one turning a blind eye to their horrors. The us in comparison to China is heaven. If you wanna suck China off so bad why don't you got there and see how they treat orphans. I did just that, and what I saw was more horrible than you could possibly imagine. Kids with down syndrome were chained to tables and had to shit in buckets. The Muslim population in China is the most persecuted group of people on Earth, yet you turn a blind eye and call me dumb. your hypocrisy is astounding. we live in a global world. You can't just focus on your problems anymore. Other people's problems are our problems.
2019-10-10 16:48
We can't sort our crap out and yet you put your greasy nose into some other country's business. We ain't paid none for what we did and you should be quiet.
2019-10-10 17:09
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China SwooksarV2 
Yes mens. U want banana? I give u bananas! 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌Take my money!!💵💵💵💵💵
2019-10-10 14:30
#55
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United States BeatGamer1231 
8th in GDP???? Are u thinking about PPP or what? We are undisputedly number 1 in GDP.
2019-10-10 15:46
#4
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Switzerland LordVoldemort 
USA is Chinas bitch
2019-10-10 13:59
#5
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Norway NosTheBoss 
I've never been to Venezuela but I've heard it's nice when your not getting kidnapped
2019-10-10 14:02
#8
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China tralia 
USA numba wan
2019-10-10 14:03
:DDD
2019-10-10 21:48
#11
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Korea ARBOGA 
usa's debt-to-GDP ratio ~105% germany's debt-to-GDP ratio: 60% france's debt-to-GDP ratio 98.4% uk's debt-to-GDP ratio 86.8%
2019-10-10 14:06
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Do u know EVER country has debt????
2019-10-10 14:25
yes every country has a debt but u cannot imagine how big is yours you cute lil top 1 in world guy
2019-10-10 14:29
#28
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ok and our country dwarfs every other country at the same time. Debt means nothing. Countries like Switzerland and Norway have debt. It don’t mean shit. Rich countries can by anything they want and pay for anything they want.
2019-10-10 14:38
#30
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Portugal Zedonp 
They can't thats why you have debt. Now no one is gonna collect it and you won't pay it but that doesn't change the fact. Btw superiority complex much?
2019-10-10 14:43
#32
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Superior complex???? By saying every country has debt???? LOL I guess so.
2019-10-10 14:42
#34
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Portugal Zedonp 
Ur comparing US to the most stable economies in the world. Also saying how ur 20ttrillion debt is compared to those countrys, thats having a superiority complex and not knowing ur place
2019-10-10 14:44
#38
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Typical salty ass 12 year old who hates America’s POWER AND INFLUENCE WE HAVE ON TBE ENTIRE WORLD.
2019-10-10 14:49
Brunei has 0 debt.
2019-10-10 16:27
#84
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Lol. Brunei the best of the best that’s why
2019-10-10 16:50
#108
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Portugal Zedonp 
Typical instults by braindead muricans. If you can't think of anything constructive or relevant to say at least don't reply
2019-10-11 13:18
#26
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United States Trump2020KAG 
It’s funny how everyone is crying fuck China fuck China fuck blizzard fuck blizzard fuck NBA fuck NBA stand with HK respect HK support HK but yet Trump tariffs the shit out of China and starts a trade war with them over currency manipulation and a bunch of other things they do and the same people cry FUCK TRUMP FUCK TRUMP HES RUINING THE COUNTRY FUCK TRUMP FUCK TRUMP. Lmao insane how biased and narrow minded all u TDS tards are. Fuck companies that side with China but fuck the FIRST EVER president who stands up to China. SMH
2019-10-10 14:34
#31
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Portugal Zedonp 
Well i don't like china that much but i wouldn't want to be even more controlled by fat muricans so fuck china and fuck the us
2019-10-10 14:42
#36
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United States Trump2020KAG 
ok That’s cool. Coming from a guy with a worthless unknown flag who has no say in anything that happens in the world. Just another worthless refugee filled country on the brink of collapsing and will look for help from countries like the fat Americans. Lol love it when NOBODIES try and act like somebody’s.
2019-10-10 14:47
#109
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Portugal Zedonp 
expected from uneducated brainwashed murican
2019-10-11 13:18
#33
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China tralia 
nice guy, you have a good body that can fuck ever thing and without soft
2019-10-10 14:43
#37
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Ty u2
2019-10-10 14:48
boring kids
2019-10-10 14:45
my?
2019-10-11 06:48
yes we're richest country so we probably could usa > china in most things -1
2019-10-10 15:22
Richest only in total GDP by the way.
2019-10-10 16:29
Other countries are faaaaar better off than USA in quality of life, wealth, stability, personal freedom, economical freedom, and many other aspects. Third world country compared to others.
2019-10-10 16:36
They borrow it from central banks owned by the rich elite, who create it out of thin air and backed by you, the taxpayer. The world owes $184 trillion. Who the F*** to? Mars? Jupiter? xDD
2019-10-10 15:53
shh don't say it out loud, the martians might come to collect
2019-10-11 06:09
2019-10-10 15:53
Afghanistan Debt (%GDP) - 7 Afghanistan > uUSA
2019-10-10 16:28
Afghanistan Debt (%GDP) - 7 Afghanistan > uUSA
2019-10-10 16:28
This debt can’t be acted on because 1. China would collapse the world economy and 2. What are they gonna do, attack us?
2019-10-10 16:30
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North America davidbowie22 
scandinavia : swedistan norway a country making their money off angry birds denmark and a place in the ocean that shouldnt even be apart of europe central eu: toilet cleaners muslims switzerland balkan: death easter eu: death everything else in eu:more muslims usa: bestest food bestest army most nukes eu:d0g shit
2019-10-10 16:42
Russia has the most nukes tho.
2019-10-10 16:57
Most of our debt is with ourselves.
2019-10-10 16:56
#87
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Hungary Hunnic_Empire 
haha who cares, the US economy is strong, one of the most free economy and easiest to do business in, they are very stable and their judicial system is one of fairest in the world. Also, independent central bank and a strong dollar encourages to buy the US bonds. The same can be applied to other countries with the strong economy and much higher(as % of GDP) debt like Japan. You also seem to not understand the concept of the debt, there is foreign debt and also internal debt... That being said, both the US and China are fine. The US can't give less shit about their debt, like who can make them pay?(and their foreign debt is only like $6 trillion, which is around 30% of the whole, another 70 is held by Americans) They are too big and rich to be dealt with. Same with China, we can see that all the EU and US companies doing business in China do not want to do anything with what's happening in HK, some even take China's side openly, because China's payouts are way too good to give up. That's the same thing happening when the US imposes sanctions that may potentially harm non-US companies/economies and no business, be it EU or Asia, dares to speak against it. I'd be more concerned about EU. With the Deutsche Bank situation the global crisis might occur and a lot of EU countries, like Germany, in that case, will pay the most.
2019-10-10 17:04
they're number 1, followed by canada. /closed
2019-10-10 16:57
Why was I taught China numba wan?
2019-10-11 05:26
you cars
2019-10-11 05:32
adressing #1 and #18 , OP is full of shit , the only solvent western countries right now are Denmark Germany and Switzerland , the rest of you all are not creditors of shit , your federal governments are running huge fiscal deficits and taking loans to make up whats left , U.S is worst than most of you , but some of you are actually worse than U.S , France , Italy , Greece , UK is pretty much just as bad. You are all trillions of dollars into debt. The entire western world is gonna colapse , the only ones left will be Japan and the rest of the free south east asia (S.K , Singapore , Hong Kong if they can exist...) U.S will get fucking destroyed....but France , Spain and Italy in special , they will be sooooooo much worse....it will be a bloodbath , when i was immature i thought it'd be great because yall statist leftist keynesian idiots , but the kids being born right now have nothing to do with the statist anti human party yall running , they'll pay the higher cost...fuck you all.
2019-10-11 06:01
we have more than 22 trillion dollars of debts. we will never have the money to pay it back. we issue new bonds to pay old ones. but there are still so many countries and people buying our new bonds. and, china dont own us cuz they cant force us to pay them with gold. nt but 0/8
2019-10-11 06:54
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