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Turkey will never be in EU
> Their government doesnt respect freedom of press or freedom of speech > Their economy is shit > They violate international law by attacking in a foreign country Many Turks are nice people but they voted for a dictator which will destroy their country sooner or later
2019-10-13 13:51
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after next General elections erdogan will be gone and negotiations can continue, but i agree that Erdogans Turkey will never be EU-fit
2019-10-13 13:52
If theyre smart enough to vote for a more liberal president they will join the EU in the future , if they continue on their path they will be outcasts of europe
2019-10-13 13:53
2019-10-13 13:55
2019-10-13 17:10
not ww2 though
2019-10-13 17:52
ww2 clearly germany will lost. we saw that XD
2019-10-13 17:54
nobody saw that before the late autumn of 1942
2019-10-13 17:55
Actually we don't need EU anymore. We don't give a f*ck about to be in.
2019-10-13 18:58
We see how that went...
2019-10-13 20:32
imo June 22nd 1941 was the day in which Germany lost the war. it's amazing to think about the implications of Hitler's decision to turn against the Soviets..... Hitler hated communism the US and most of the western allies hated communism just think about what could have possibly happened if Germany decided to settle down after his conquests in western europe, negotiate with Britain, and not invade the USSR. would the western allies eventually join Hitler in a global conquest against communism? outsiders didn't know about the concentration camps until after the Soviets started to cross the european boundaries. it's an interesting thought for sure
2019-10-14 21:30
I don't think the Allies would be fine with Germany controlling France, no matter what. And I doubt that Hitler would have gave it back, no matter what.
2019-10-15 15:51
it's definitely an interesting thing to think about.... sure Germany took those countries by force and lots died. but if Hitler held even a fraction of common sense, held some of his Lebensraum for his people, and just settled and slowed things down a little... the possibilities of the future would have been so different. would the Japanese attack the US? would the US enter the war? would the US stop or continue providing support? what would the USSR do? at that time they were allies with the Germans
2019-10-15 16:31
Germany MoBo
ottoman empire, not turkey.
2019-10-15 10:36
Turkey erturkgg
agreed 10/10
2019-10-13 14:06
Azerbaijan vocaroo
2019-10-13 14:28
No. Turkey will never join EU. Turkey are not European in any way; not ethnically and not culturally.
2019-10-13 14:42
The point of the EU is for the sake of trade and all that shit. They're not gonna go that deep into it and go cant join cuz u dont culturally fit. If Greece can be in the EU then so can Turkey
2019-10-13 14:59
No, but it was the point when ECSC were created. Today the EU is so mucn more than just trading. If Turkey want to trade with the EU they can get a trading deal, just like other countries have.
2019-10-13 15:02
no? the ecsc was created to make peace with the european countries and to have a stable and good economy in europe lmao
2019-10-13 15:44
Then why was it called "European Coal and Steel Community" and not "The Peace Union" you fat dumb fuck
2019-10-13 15:45
??? reported btw
2019-10-13 15:47
Expected from muslim immigrant living in Germany
2019-10-13 16:03
braindead rightist
2019-10-13 16:04
Same kid, different account. How many do you have? You're obvious and quite pathetic. Now begone, don't bother replying to me.
2019-10-13 16:05
"Same kid, different account." what do you mean and who the fuck cares about age, if the maturity is the only thing that counts? Seems like youre lacking that, seeing your responses to me and other people. You just pull out things out of your ass like "not culturally fit or ethnically" which dont play a part in who gets into the eu or not, democracy, laws, foreign politics are things which are aspects in getting into the eu, not your rightist ideologies. you should be the one not bothering to reply me, halfwit.
2019-10-13 17:15
2019-10-14 18:58
8/8 these people are much more harmful to us than turks
2019-10-13 17:08
what do you mean?
2019-10-13 17:09
these far rightists hurts us
2019-10-13 17:13
2019-10-13 17:14
Because the idea was that if they shared industry (economy) they wouldnt be able to go to war again you dumb fuck. At least read up on the shit before you speak.
2019-10-14 11:37
It wasn't to prevent war you delusional uneducated 3rd world cunt, it was primarily for trading. Ever heard of NATO you deluded cunt?
2019-10-14 11:43
Yes it was you retard. The idea was if they heavily involved in eachothers business they wouldnt go to war against eachother again. Everyone knows this you fucking cretin Also for transparancy in industrial production (noone can build 1000 tanks without the other knowing)
2019-10-14 11:59
"The ECSC was the first international organisation to be based on supranational principles and was, through the establishment of a common market for coal and steel, intended to expand the economies, increase employment, and raise the standard of living within the Community." Ever heard of NATO you uneducated 3rd worlder?
2019-10-14 12:00
*From the political point of view, the Schuman Plan was based on the assumption that the integration of Germany into a permanent European structure was the best way to prevent it from being a threat to its neighbours and, at the same time, guarantee peace in Europe. It allowed for an improvement in Franco-German relations on the basis of mutual interests, while creating a climate of cooperation in Europe, since it put Germany on an equal footing, something which was of great symbolic significance. The independence of the High Authority, the supranational body responsible for the operation of the European coal and steel pool, was also devised as a new way of counteracting the pursuit of narrow, national self-interests. Moreover, the United States, eager to see Western Europe rebuilt economically and militarily, urged France to take decisive steps, since the British had clearly expressed their aversion to a European customs union or to any supranational approach." You really are a dumb motherfucker. Don't embarass yourself even further
2019-10-14 12:04
NATO founded before ECSC. Look at the name of ECSC. The primarily reason was trading, everyone with +80 IQ knows it. I can't believe how you can be this dumb and still have the nerve to comment in this topic xaxaxaxa
2019-10-14 12:15
Having a military alliance led by the US does not exclude having a european alliance. Whats wrong with your brain? Actually the main reason was to rebuild europe and having europe come together in peace. Trading is a symptom of peace. You really dont know shit. Don't reply again you pathetic little imbecile. You're to one dimensional to even tell your own head from your ass. Hurrr durr NATO lmao
2019-10-14 12:22
No, the purpose was trading; 'expand the economies, increase employment, and raise the standard of living within the Community.' Peace is just a natural consequence of the community, NOT the purpose. You seem very confused. You must have a hard time in your daily life since you can't understand something this simple.
2019-10-14 12:37
Maybe you should read stuff about Robert Schuman before talking you peasant
2019-10-14 13:27
Maybe you should be able to read the fucking name of the union before commeting again you braindead loser
2019-10-15 00:36
What a dumb fucking argument. i guess North Korea is a democracy then. Go back to elementary school you cretin
2019-10-15 10:31
Because ECSC had reasons to mislead the outside world, just like North Korea have, is this really your point? I think I'm writing to an actual bot.
2019-10-15 10:32
Yeah, ECSC conspiracies inc. Also by that logic the misleading point would work in my favour, not yours you retard
2019-10-15 10:37
Hahaha what, ok this simply must be a bait. You at last realized how dumb you look, so now you're trying to bait me so you can say you were doing it from the beginning. Pathetic.
2019-10-15 10:48
I am not baiting at all, and I don't look stupid. You do. You're essential just talking nonsense. Probably because you're a massive retard
2019-10-15 10:53
You just can't accept that you are wrong dude. For sure keeping the peace played a huge role in the agreement.
2019-10-15 15:56
Look, all the kids I destroyed in recent weeks sticks together to go up against the superior user. How sweet, but pathetic. Now get the fuck out of my sight.
2019-10-15 15:58
lmao you just embarras yourself publicly.
2019-10-15 15:59
You're an embarrassment for anyone you've met throughout the entirety of your pathetic life. Now fuck off, don't reply to me. You're a waste of oxygen.
2019-10-15 16:00
Lmao you only make it worse
2019-10-15 16:24
Learn history. The agreement was a way to achieve stable peace. It was the main goal. And it worked very well as it's the most peaceful times for Europe since then.
2019-10-14 21:44
Learn anything, please. Your cognitive abilities are non-existing.
2019-10-15 00:37
2019-10-15 00:42
Brain cells? Too bad you have none. Now begone, autist.
2019-10-15 00:43
Still no argument. You can keep going this way as long as you want it's still equivalent to nothing because you don't bring anything else than insults to the table. You just sound like a frustrated teenager.
2019-10-15 00:44
Still no argument. Now begone autistic kid.
2019-10-15 00:45
lmao you really are an ignorant child
2019-10-15 10:33
LOL! Stop comparing Greece with Turkey, thanks.
2019-10-13 15:03
Rofl thought that the biggest Turk hater was Fakepott but you thrash him in this now.
2019-10-13 23:05
I don't care about turks enough to hate them, I merely tell you to not compare two such different peoples, both ethnically and culturally. Are you really this slow?
2019-10-13 23:09
But you do care enough to post a comment about them?
2019-10-14 08:59
I don't give a fuck if you die in the next 5 minutes, but I'll still reply and tell you.
2019-10-14 09:07
You are by far the most retarded person in this fucking forum. From now on I won't waste any time replying to you, stupid motherfucker.
2019-10-14 15:46
Thank you. I'm tired of wasting my time on uneducated teenagers like you.
2019-10-15 00:37
Etncially we are so close to greece man
2019-10-13 23:14
No you're not. Turks are a mix of Central Asian tribes and Anatolians with som people from the Balkans mixed in. Greeks are by the vast majority a mediterranean/european peoples with Anatolian and some Balkan admixture.
2019-10-13 23:18
Yes you are right ,original turks is more like central asian but anatolia is a so mixed because of ottoman politics.A lot of DNA test say that not me %40 greek %30 middle east then asia coming
2019-10-13 23:50
Turkey is not a democracy :)
2019-10-13 14:51
Even if we had more liberal western leader eu wouldnt let tr in because tr has big population and weak economy so it would be pain for other countries and imagine tr people easily can go to eu you guys hate turks so we will never be part of eu
2019-10-13 15:39
+1 true. That is what everybody knows but nobody says
2019-10-13 23:04
Turkey holyshper
+1 i agree
2019-10-13 16:27
"more liberal" ur buggin
2019-10-13 22:42
Erdogan's Turkey should be part of Arabs. But dont forget one thing guys. At least %50 of Turkish people fking hate these goverment and acts too.
2019-10-13 16:32
like turkey wants to be in eu anyway LOL
2019-10-13 13:54
There were negotiations between EU and Turkey , but the EU cancelled them because of Erdogans actions.
2019-10-13 13:56
in 2007 turkey had everything completed to join the EU but then the EU find a new problem to stop us to join Eu. cyprus conflict :D so i suppose turkey will never join eu anyway . even if they have every thing completed , cyprus is always going to be a problem , we are not going to recognize cyprus
2019-10-13 13:58
If you dont recognize other countries rights then your not fit to join the EU
2019-10-13 14:00
yoiu dont recognize nothern cyprus aswell so we dont want to join anymore lul that is the reason
2019-10-13 14:01
Australia Leftistt
Northern Cyprus is it's own independent country regardless of what anyone says.
2019-10-13 14:02
nothern cyprus is turkish do u know that
2019-10-13 14:08
Australia Leftistt
Yes, I know Kibris is Turkish.
2019-10-13 14:08
Turkey TheKaiser
Nice one sir.
2019-10-14 20:49
Not biased at all
2019-10-13 14:09
Not only the EU doesnt recognize northern cyprus , the UN doesnt either. In fact Turkey is the only country to recognize this fake country.
2019-10-13 14:03
yeah so why are you lying about the fact that EU stopped the negotiations LOL as long as you dont recognize nothern cyprus, turkey would never join EU
2019-10-13 14:07
If you dont stop to occupy other countrys , break international law , you will never join the EU. And you know that the EU will never recognize your fake country "northern cyprus"
2019-10-13 14:08
do you even know the history of nother cyprus or you just believe your parents or google?
2019-10-13 14:09
lmao. There is no TRNC as country. You demand EU and UN to recognise occupied land as country LUL and on the other hand EU and UN to stop recognise Cyprus Republic. ROFL
2019-10-13 14:54
there is TRNC country, and you greeks are going to suck it and btw how cold is the wather ?
2019-10-13 15:14
hahaha wtf has the weather to do with this hahahahaha
2019-10-13 15:45
u dont understand xD
2019-10-13 15:48
then elaborate please
2019-10-13 15:53
TRNC exists only in turkish fantasy.
2019-10-13 19:12
North Cyprus is fake "Recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus."
2019-10-13 23:07
european cry babies
2019-10-13 23:07
oh and btw your country ' exist' just becouse the EU has saved your ass after your economy failed hard. If you werent in EU your country wasnt existing anymore. just only in your fantasies
2019-10-13 22:40
Yes EU is good men)) But only for first worlders or good people :)
2019-10-13 23:06
2019-10-13 23:07
outdated map , turkey will be removed soon
2019-10-13 23:07
haha u just got rekt m8
2019-10-13 23:08
Dude that map shows iran as 1st World?? This map is bullshit and you know it hahahaha
2019-10-13 23:08
nazi germans think they are only 1st world country
2019-10-13 23:09
nt mustafa , only argument you have is germany being nazi 70 years ago
2019-10-13 23:10
nt adolf , only argument you have is ' braindwashed turk'
2019-10-13 23:11
the guy is fucking crazy man. Im having this massive fucking discussion with this retarded brainlet. But there's no talking sense to him. He's brainwashed and he'll find and excuse for anything as long as it favors his country. This is what extreme nationalism looks like. Absolutely blind to the facts and only cherry picking.
2019-10-13 23:52
Lithuania ateivis
I thought Turkey was against annexation of Crimea x), guess not
2019-10-13 15:50
United States DiabIo
got em LUL
2019-10-13 14:30
ofc you want ... you were trying to join the eu for pretty much 30 years. You always got declined for certain reasons.
2019-10-13 14:34
it was not only in our intrests but also for EU's intrests but we dont want to join anymore since our dollar was 1.06 and euro was 1.75 before the coup
2019-10-13 14:38
aha what bunch of bullshit dude x) got many friends who are turkish, which is nice, but we all agree, that turkish government is way too unstable and corrupt. worse than jews
2019-10-13 14:42
that is your and your friends opinion , wich is nice but it is far from the reality m8 your western propaganda is far worse then turkish
2019-10-13 14:44
LOL u talk as if the EU really really needs Turkey to join. They don't give a shit. Turkey benefits more from joining than the rest of the EU does
2019-10-13 15:00
haha so funny these europeans
2019-10-13 15:11
do you not recognize that 1. What Turkey is doing to the Kurds is wrong? 2. Turkish politics is rigged. 3. Turkey wanted to join the EU. At least in the past?
2019-10-13 18:10
do you recognize that 1. We aint fighting vs Kurds, we are fighting against terrorism. In turkey lives 20m kurds and almost all of them support this operation. In syria local kurdish families are helping turkish troops in this operation. 2.Whole turkey is united right now. there is no politics when it comes to our country. 3. Yes Turkey wanted to join EU, And the EU wanted to have Turkey also but then they realized if they do that Turkey would be the biggest/strongest country in EU due to thei r population , (they would have dominated the eu parlementary ) and becouse of Cyprus. So now Turkey has no interests in EU anymore we are just on our own
2019-10-13 22:38
0.5. Why are you trying to sound "gangsta" with your "gansta talk" saying "aint"? 1. "In turkey lives 20m kurds and almost all of them support this operation. " prove it. 2. Doubt. "there is no politics when it comes to our country." do you even know what you just said? 3. Bruh. You're brainwashed.
2019-10-13 22:45
0.25. my english is not so good that is why 1. Do you want me to ask 20m kurds how they feel about the operation. Just watch all the enquetes in Turkey. 90% of the people supports this operation in southeastern turkey due to PYD/YPG attack also kurdish cities in Turkey becouse they dont want to join this terror groups. video of proof ( 24 people wounded 3 people died one of them 9 months old baby ) 2.You dont even live here so how can you know? 3. Did you even read this page LOL it comes down what i literally have said , biggest issue right now is Cyprus. And turkey isnt going to accept that you dont recognize nothern cyprus as turkish. Western propaganda lul
2019-10-13 22:58
0.125. So why say something like "aint" that's not even proper English. Surely you know "are not" is a lot neater and common. 1. Obviously not. I want you to state your sources. Or link them. Which you still haven't done. That's not video proof. That video doesn't tell me anything. 2. This is your bad English showing up again. "there is no politics when it comes to our country.". I'll ask again; Do. You. Know. What. You. Just. Said?: 3. "Citing Turkey's economic and political situation, as well its poor relations with Greece and the conflict with Cyprus" 1950s-1990s "The EU has accused and criticized Turkey for human rights violations and deficits in rule of law.[8] In 2017, EU officials expressed that planned Turkish policies violate the Copenhagen criteria of eligibility for an EU membership.[" Cyprus has been a problem, duh. Good job Im glad you knew. Im surprised, even. But there were more problems, my dude. Especially now, Brainwashed.
2019-10-13 23:16
1. What do you want me to link , i dont think you understand that they are 20m kurds living in turkey and you have alot of turkish soldiers from kurd origin who are operating in this mission and also there have been alot of celebrations in kurdish cities about this operation, They were showed by the news yesterday, Do you want me to link Turkish news channel of yesterday? You can speak turkish? I arent think so 2. 3 iq max. Everyone in turkey is on the same page right now. The most far opposition channel is making the same news as the pro gouverment channel. They all say the same right now even with their political views being so different. When it comes to national security no one in turkey is divided. From far rights to far lefties or islamist till Ataturks , they are all the same right now like it has always been. After this is done they are going to fight with each other again. 3. 31 January 2014 – France officially removes its veto over Chapter 11 ("Agriculture & Rural Development"). This chapter was blocked by both Cyprus and France, so it can't be unfrozen until Cyprus removes its veto. Everytime turkey comes to close to a agreement , Cyprus or French use their veto becouse of the cyprus conflict. So basicly even if turkey has everything finished wich they had, cyprus is going to veto it. So there is no way turkey can join eu. so they just stop wasting time on it and move further. 3 iq max
2019-10-13 23:30
1. if there aren't ANY. A-N-Y sources you can link that's in English. Then I'm pretty sure the whole brainwashing thing is even worse than I thought. 2. Prove it. 3. And it's politics, still. "On 19 March 2017, Erdogan said he would immediately approve the reinstatement of capital punishment after the upcoming constitutional referendum.[8] However, this has not yet happened." Key word; it as yet to happen. But the fact that you guys are talking about it, and possibly reintroducing it, is alarming. EU states "stable institutions guaranteeing democracy, the rule of law, human rights and respect for and protection of minorities;" as one of their requirements to join. The 2016 coup attempt demonstrates that Turkey is not a mature European-style democracy Human rights are routinely abused. Dozens of journalists languish in jail. Amnesty International’s annual report is filled with accounts of torture, free speech violations, denial of minority rights, unfair trials, failure to protect women. The EU states "a functioning market economy and the capacity to cope with competition and market forces in the EU;" Turkey is still an underdeveloped economy. EU GDP: 36.428 Turkey's GDP: 10.540,62. Less than half the EU's average. brainwashed.
2019-10-13 23:45
i get it m8 you just believe what you want to believe , others are brainwashed turks typical hypocrite europeans lul kek
2019-10-13 23:55
"i get it m8 you just believe what you want to believe" That's exactly what you're doing though :). You just can't imagine a reality in which Turkey is the country in the wrong. I hope, for you, you soon enough will say the same thing as this legend. Elaborate on how I'm a hypocrite too please
2019-10-14 00:09
you just dont understand how it is to live in a conflict zone , our border is not sweden norway or canada but iraq,syria . you just sit safe behind your pc and drinking thea all day long. just look further then your western propaganda and do your researches before you talk now go go play some tennis and drink thea while we do the real work /closed
2019-10-14 00:15
Solid discussion. I rate it 6/10. Opposition should've had more time to prepare. Clearly they haven't put in the time to come to rational arguments. Closing statement from opposition was an absolute joke, but at least he tried. All is forgiven. btw clearly you're not in a conflict zone, you'd be doing something else other than having fucking online arguments with people halfway around the world lol. You'd have more pressing matters to attend to.
2019-10-14 00:21
Turkey TheKaiser
I lived near conflict zone, in Southeast Region of Turkey and I'm also Kurdish. 2 years ago, there was a big conflict between military and PKK in my city (which is called Diyarbakır, you can google it) and it all effected us. Students couldn't go to school, there were exploding things nearly everyday, the people in the distinct which was in conflict zone (which is called Sur, you can google it) were homeless for months, even some of them can't go to their homes now. Since then, nearly 40 percent of Kurdish people in Turkey directly supports Erdogan and his politics and ~70 percent of remaining people hates PKK. I could give you proof if you lived here but you know, you can't go back in time.
2019-10-14 21:08
cool anecdote. Send the proof. "cant go back in time" what fucking argument is that for not sending proof? lol
2019-10-14 21:26
Turkey TheKaiser
Go and look at that times news, last election results and datas comparing them to others. But I know you will say " oh no ur dumb to send proof" . Sometimes you can do some research about a topic.
2019-10-14 21:28
Dude you're the one coming up with the statistics and all that. You're the one that should come with the proof. " " oh no ur dumb to send proof" " this makes no fucking sense either. Just. Send. The. Data. Then. Holy shit
2019-10-14 21:30
Turkey TheKaiser
Look down. There is proof of conflicts.
2019-10-14 21:38
2019-10-14 21:38
Turkey TheKaiser
lel ez
2019-10-14 21:58
Turkey TheKaiser
Here you are:–Turkish_conflict_(2015–present) You can see that all the expressions that says Turkey helping ISIS/Daesh is claimed by PKK/YPG. About my city, you can see in 2014/15 pretty much every city in Southestern Parts of Turkey were bombed regularly.
2019-10-14 21:39
Turkey TheKaiser
Second link is broken, you have to manually choose it.
2019-10-14 21:40
2019-10-13 17:57
Australia Leftistt
What you don't understand is the corruption in the country. There has been other party votes being found in the bin. Erdogan won't be out anytime soon I can tell u that mens.
2019-10-13 13:54
he lost elections in Istanbul twice in the last couple months.. obviously him being able to re-do the election was already a giant redflag for corruption but the People are still able to make their Voices heard and they want Change in large parts of the country
2019-10-13 13:56
2019-10-13 13:58
According to the last enquete he still gets 45% of the votes and his allience ( MHP ) gets around 11% wich makes him winner again ow and he didnt loose the elections in istanbul 99% of the local municipalities are AKP. only the head of the regio istanbul is opposition but he cant do shit becouse the parlement is 99% for akp LOL cry is free m8
2019-10-13 14:42
i havent seen a General election poll with akp >40% in a Long time, so imma just assume you nitpicked the one out of 20 that showed the result you crave for also saying the Mayor of a 15 mio Citizen metropol cant do shit just Shows your understanding of Democracy :) also why would i cry? :D im in Germany, None of this affects me whatsoever, im just an interested observer
2019-10-13 14:52
+1 interested observer as well , but a bit sad to see a once good country go to shit because of Erdogan.
2019-10-13 14:57
you havent seen election poll with akp becouse you live in germany you have no idea what is happening here, you are just observing with western propaganda lul
2019-10-13 15:01
yea as we all know the media is much more independant in Turkey compared to the eu :D
2019-10-13 15:02
i would say yes look only on this hltv shithole
2019-10-13 15:06
How many newpapers get shut down by governments within EU you suppose?
2019-10-13 15:51
United States HLTV_Jew
everyone is wrong but me...because...because...wester prepegenda durr
2019-10-13 15:10
that is also what you usa/eu are saying rofl
2019-10-13 15:14
Germany NitczkaCS
Not true I read it is around 40% together with this alliance if true it will be probably gg for him
2019-10-13 16:07
40% with his allience xDD his party gets more then 45% last years only this year it was steady on 45% and his allience gets 11/12% standard every year and after this operation he gets more voters and he is going to send the 3.6m back to syria and also he is making a new economic plan for 2020 wich will increase his popularity again so i would say gg for the main opposition who barely gets 20% of the votes last 25 years LOL, they got 30% this year becouse they formed a coalition with 5 parties lmao
2019-10-13 16:13
Germany NitczkaCS
Sending them back to Syria? Hahahaha
2019-10-13 21:53
why do you think he is making a safe zone , use your brains please everything has a reason we aint like usa who just wipes out whole regions without reason
2019-10-13 22:35
Germany NitczkaCS
As if Erdogan has done everything he promised till today lul just wait and see it will be just another disappointment for you
2019-10-14 19:39
as if any president has done everything they promise till today lul , everyone thinks erdogan is a robot that he cannot make mistakes, ofc he has some mistakes but that is everywhere , every president make mistakes and it is not a shame to make a mistake we are all human at the end
2019-10-14 20:45
-uk +serbia
2019-10-13 13:59
OK | 
Albania Edjon
-uk +albania
2019-10-13 14:04
-uk +everyone on the balkan peninsula
2019-10-13 14:05
OK | 
Albania Edjon
couldnt agree more also why was the 1iquser fanclub closed i wanted to be in 😡😡😡
2019-10-13 14:08
bro its in renovation since i have to put the good and bad list
2019-10-13 14:09
OK | 
Albania Edjon
when will it come back😄😄😄😄
2019-10-13 14:10
2019-10-13 14:11
OK | 
Albania Edjon
😎👍 ok
2019-10-13 14:12
OK | 
Albania Edjon
ok but where is my irl best friend his name is 1iquser_biggest_fan hes very mad right now 😠😠😠
2019-10-13 14:13
give me his profile link and i'll put him there
2019-10-13 14:15
please fanclub me back 😢😢😢
2019-10-13 14:18
2019-10-13 14:34
+serbia +albania would be even better
2019-10-13 14:06
you want more lazy people in germany who would just send their money back their families? they would be like the romanians and bulgarians that we just cant kick out of our country cuz they are in the EU
2019-10-13 14:36
With help from EU their countrys will become better , and contribute to the Union in the Future
2019-10-13 14:43
and ours would become worse
2019-10-13 14:44
And what's wrong with us? Most of us work for a living, many are already established in their respective countries
2019-10-13 17:31
Albania will never join EU. We don't want muslim countries inside Schengen.
2019-10-13 14:44
Many of turkish people who vote for erdogan dont wanna be in eu anyway, they actually dont care eu and that makes us victim
2019-10-13 13:59
Lebanon Dogman69
Erdogan will win next election because turks will vote for people who do genocide
2019-10-13 14:05
Turkey erturkgg
Erdogan will lose
2019-10-13 14:07
NiKo | 
Turkey leame
hala genocide diyo anasını siktiğim
2019-10-13 14:11
This is an international site , please write your comments in English
2019-10-13 14:26
NiKo | 
Turkey leame
i said, still says genocide mother fuck
2019-10-13 14:39
didnt know you didnt kill a few hundred thousand armenians
2019-10-13 16:05
Turkey Arsly2K
dont you know? you burned jews!!! you murdered kids!!! how can you speak about are the fkn genocide.
2019-10-13 19:21
We learned from our history, turkey obviously not.
2019-10-13 23:02
Turkey Arsly2K
If u learn you shouldn't blame to Turkey as genocider because Germans are the dirtiest genocider.
2019-10-14 16:36
you did one genocide and now you are doing the next one. The only reason is that Erdogan needs more voters because his latest poll results were pretty bad.
2019-10-14 18:19
Turkey Arsly2K
Actually, it looks like it from the outside.Believe me there are tons of kurd erdogan supporters.For example,I have a friend of kurdish and his uncle is erdogan's party deputy.There are kurds and terrorist they are different.Now Turkey is killing the terrorists because that goatfuckers pkk/ypg killed more than 7230(2015) Turkish soldiers in 30 years with bombs and ambushes.What would Germany do if the same was done to the German soldiers? Believe me I would support Germany.Please don't trust your media.
2019-10-14 22:43
Germans can at least reflect rheir history and stand up to it unlike you.
2019-10-14 11:30
Lol. I'd call it ambitious for anyone to even oppose Erdogan at this point. There is no winning in a rigged election.
2019-10-13 18:12
in the very first years of Erdogan, Turkey and EU relations were okay-ish, idk how it got to the point where it is today Turkish people dont give a damn about EU, btw. The differences in culture, people's perspectives and thoughts are bigger than Andromeda.
2019-10-13 14:09
Russia L0sk^^
we need -uk +russia
2019-10-13 14:07
xaxaxaxa i dont think putin wants to join EU
2019-10-13 14:10
Azerbaijan vocaroo
2019-10-13 14:30
Australia will never be in South East Asia Union because theyre not Asia
2019-10-13 14:08
Erdogan will never join the Axis😤
2019-10-13 14:12
Axis ? Are you using Internet Explorer????
2019-10-13 14:15
Ukraine Volland
2019-10-13 16:15
Turkey EM4YS
there is a loss of operation will be impossible to withdraw
2019-10-13 14:22
“They violate international law by attacking in a foreign country” 0/8
2019-10-13 14:26
nt Turkey Education It is forbidden by International Law to intervent in a foreign country without the permission of that country or the permission of the UN Security Council
2019-10-13 14:28
Yeah like us did to iraq Or ısrael did it to palastine Sure pal when it comes to us it converted to “international law” Ps: im telling this as a kurd who lives in turkey.. Cuz they ‘ re not relevant with kurda. They’re just puppets of us for controling the region Go educate yourself about middle east before making threads..
2019-10-13 17:50
2019-10-13 17:51
He didnt die, throw missile. (He wll not understand that turkish meme)
2019-10-13 18:06
so do you still think syria is a country ? if syria is still a country so why usa armed the kurdish forces? if syria is still a country why there 3m refugees in turkey? why turkey has spent about 40 billion euros for refugees? why usa, russia, eu and turkey do not respect bashar al-assad? syria has gone friend, there will be no syria anymore
2019-10-13 17:51
Firstly, We dont care about entering EU. We are enough fo us. We have managed everything alone in our history. We don't need anyone's help or support. Remember that, they are not Kurds, they are terorist who killed the babies and people on our border. We are ready to sacrifice our lives for Turkey. Our country have a lot of Kurds who sacrifice their lives for Turkey as well. So stop saying Kurds. They are YPG-PKK terrorist organization.
2019-10-13 14:36
you dont need anyone help or support but you use American and German weapons after Americans and Russians giving you green light to invade Syria. So you don't do anything without help or support
2019-10-13 14:58
LOL We didnt ask for a permission from America or Russia. USA Secretary of Defense Esper said "Erdogan didnt ask for permission from us. He said 'We gonna just enter Syria'" :)
2019-10-13 18:00
conveniently after the US left. Ok pall you guys are the one with the power lol ok.
2019-10-13 18:15
hmm Ireland ok :D
2019-10-13 18:27
There's that Turkish arrogance, as expected. Don't worry. I've gotten used to it by all the Turkish immigrants here. oh btw Im fakeflagging so
2019-10-13 18:31
dont lie man. fuck it
2019-10-13 18:40
what would I be lying about? Is this Turkey education?
2019-10-13 19:31
so why USA and Russia applied veto in UN voting to condemn invasion?
2019-10-13 19:13
They know what we're doing in Syria is right because They know so much what are happening there than others country. They didn't want to be liars. Its ok man?
2019-10-13 22:11
so you have support
2019-10-13 23:39
This is not support. It has to be happened like that already.
2019-10-15 11:21
so why the fuck is your economy going downhill
2019-10-13 16:07
so do you think economy is just about the value of your money ? mmm, i dont think so also i think you didnt hear that turkey had current surplus in the last few months.
2019-10-13 17:57
"Since August 2018, Turkey has been going through a currency and debt crisis, characterised by the Turkish lira (TRY) plunging in value, high inflation, rising borrowing costs, and correspondingly rising loan defaults. The crisis was caused by the Turkish economy's excessive current account deficit and foreign-currency debt, in combination with the ruling Justice and Development Party's increasing authoritarianism and President Erdogan's unorthodox ideas about interest rate policy." -wikipedia i arent think.
2019-10-13 18:01
Turkey’s current account surplus rose to USD 2.60 billion in August 2019 from USD 2.05 billion in the same month of the previous year, below market expectations of a USD 2.775 billion surplus. The goods and services surplus widened to USD 3.60 billion from USD 2.79 billion in August 2018, as the services surplus climbed to USD 5.22 billion from USD 4.37 billion and the goods deficit went up to USD 1.62 billion from USD 1.57 billion. Also, the secondary income surplus advanced to USD 0.10 billion from USD 0.03 billion while the primary income shortfall increased to USD 1.1 billion from USD 0.77 billion. Current Account in Turkey averaged -1393.22 USD Million from 1984 until 2019, reaching an all time high of 2644 USD Million in October of 2018 and a record low of -9407 USD Million in March of 2011. in addition to that, wtf is that using wiki to prove sth. you should use some reliable sources. Even i can enter wiki and write sth about any country.
2019-10-13 18:08
Country comes first for us. Currency 2nd. I am not Erdogan supporter, i never gave him my vote, i hate him, i tried to change people's votes who supports Erdogan. But in that case we are right, Erdogan is right.
2019-10-13 18:12
exactly bro. We support Erdogan international area. He has some mistakes in inside but he help oppressed people by clearing the terror. Allah always help helper my brother <3
2019-10-13 18:36
"he has some mistakes" 1)put people who talk against you and share real news in to the jail 2)Fuck all the economy and live best live in your own builded "palace" 3)go fuking war in syria and let eu and na think that we are killing innocent people. 4)Dont care about people 5)cheat in the elections 6)No freedom speech 7)show the guy who saved turkey from being a uk colony as a bad man. Is this eneough for you or do i need to post more?
2019-10-13 23:46
If you call them terrorist why do you free isis terrorist? Ooh i forgot, erdogan is happy friend of isis. Oooh i forgot erdogan hates kurd and kurds were fighting isis hard so he frees isis so he has isis against kurds again. Oh no how could i forget.
2019-10-14 11:33
FIRAT SHIELD OPERATION (Turkey's Operation) Started: 24.08.2016 The Firat Shield Operation was organized to ensure border security, to prevent ISIS's terrorist attacks against the country, and to ensure the peace and security of displaced Syrians returning to their countries. At the end of the 216-day operation, Jarablus, Rai, Dabik, Kabasin, Al Bab, ISIS were cleaned from the terrorist organization and 3 thousand 60 terrorists, including 2647 dead, were neutralized. 71 soldiers were killed (we are saying them 'şehit', they are not dead in our religion of Islam) in the operation.
2019-10-14 18:53
NAF | 
Montenegro c4zen
muslim=no eu=racist eu very simple equation
2019-10-13 14:33
What race are muslims? 'European Union'. European. Read it again; European. Islam is not European in anyway, and neither are muslims. So no, we don't want muslims in the EU.
2019-10-13 14:46
if the guy who dont understand tolerance between religions can be a european, i guess many turks can be european
2019-10-13 18:01
If you think tolerance is letting 80 millions turks inside Schengen, so they have the rights to travel whereever they want in Europe, you are greatly deluded and I fear for your mental health. nt muslim immigrant
2019-10-13 22:35
im not a muslim but you are a racist european
2019-10-14 01:58
No, you're a racist non-european.
2019-10-14 01:58
your country even cant be seen in europe map and bet who is more european lol also a far-rightist guy called me racist lmao
2019-10-14 02:03
I'm Danish. I'm as European as we come. Also this non-European extreme leftist hating white people got exposed as a racist.
2019-10-14 02:05
Denmark cant be seen on the map of europe?? Wtf xxxx
2019-10-14 11:34
If they try the winged hussars will arrive 😎
2019-10-13 14:34
lol +1
2019-10-13 15:05
gimp | 
United Kingdom suge
Every EU member state has to ratify the accession of Turkey. Even if Turkey becomes a functioning liberal democracy again, they won't join the EU as countries like Slovakia and Hungary will reject their accession due to Turkey being Islamic
2019-10-13 14:37
Turkey never was close to become liberal democracy and never will be one. Deep State aka Derin Devlet didnt and doesnt allow that.
2019-10-13 15:02
>implying EU will ever let a majority muslim country to be a part of itself
2019-10-13 14:38
Albania joining next year
2019-10-13 14:45
Tiny and irrelevant
2019-10-13 14:46
OK, it's still Germany and Sweden with France, 3 Muslim countries in eu
2019-10-13 14:50
According to Gallup 43% of the Albanian population are muslims. Albania is a mockery to Europe and their ancestors. Occupied, killed, enslaved, raped and forced to convert to islam by Ottomans. Today Albanians 'honor' their ancestors by being muslim. Pathetic.
2019-10-13 14:50
Stockholm syndrome as it is. But I am not going to judge them
2019-10-13 14:51
Do you think they would still be muslim after they left ottoman empire and created their own country? Do you think they would still honor their ancestors if they know this? Ottoman empire never forced people to change their religions, culture and made it look like us.
2019-10-13 14:56
Hahaha! Ottomans forced Balkan children to convert to islam. Its well known and documented by historians again and again. If they had any respect for their ancestors they would leave the inferior and backwards religion called 'islam'.
2019-10-13 14:58
Sure And Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs, Macedonians, Armenians suddenly converted back to Christianism after they get converted by Ottomans to Islam and lived like this for 500 years under Ottoman Empire
2019-10-13 15:03
Know your history, child.
2019-10-13 15:04
Sure Name me some reliable Ottoman historians Mr.Greenland
2019-10-13 15:05
Why the fuck would I do that. That's your own job.
2019-10-13 15:06
Ok but what proves it than? What is the proof than just a pages of wikipedia that is trying to tell we are evil, bad? If people had respect to their ancestors, they would change their religion back to normal right? I don’t think this is the reason why there is a muslim population in albania.
2019-10-13 15:10
You don't think Ottomans are the reason why Albanians are muslims? LMAO!
2019-10-13 15:11
Ok then why they are still muslims still after 100 years passed? Nobody forces them to be muslim right now and this is their own choice. If they wanted and want to, they can go back and be christian again.
2019-10-13 15:15
Read the fucking page and you'll get your answer.
2019-10-13 15:16
I fucking did why dont u answer my wuestion now?
2019-10-13 15:19
Holy shit, you're actually dumb as fuck. What can I say, flag checks out.
2019-10-13 15:21
You are more dumb right now by not giving the answer and trying lead the conservation how dumb i am. Now answer this, how can i be dumb when you said rEaD tHe PaGe ThAn I wIlL answer your question?
2019-10-13 15:23
If you can't figure simple dynamics out for yourself, I can't help you. Ask your support teacher instead of annoying me.
2019-10-13 15:24
You are the one that has to answer my question if you want to look like “the guy who knows”. But i think you dont have an actual proof for my question so nevermind.
2019-10-13 15:25
Herre jemini - my head hurts when reading your comments. I can't believe the stupidity in this one.
2019-10-13 15:27
Again, you are not trying to answer my question
2019-10-13 15:31
Its like explaining Pythagoras to someone who can't figure out 2+2. How are you even able to breathe?
2019-10-13 15:33
Just give the answer already if you know it but i think you dont than telling me to read the same page over and over again.
2019-10-13 15:34
Hahaha, how can you be this fucking dumb? No wonder why your life is dictated by a book written centuries ago, you're actually unable to think for yourself.
2019-10-13 15:38
Albania will be empty land within 2050. Situation there is maybe worse than Hoxha regime. Drug lords rule the country
2019-10-13 15:04
Albania should never be a part of the EU. If they get membership many Albanians will straight up leave their country right away, as they will have access to all Schengen-countries.
2019-10-13 15:05
EU is one of the most retarded unions in European history, without any efficiency or logic. Instead of picking Post soviet republics in 1990-1991 they let them flew into Russian influence sphere, while accepting shitholes like Romania and Bulgaria into EU.
2019-10-13 14:45
2019-10-13 15:27
EU is a ruled by a bunch of worthless bureaucrats who wanted to become accountants when they were kids
2019-10-13 19:16
Turkey can have our slot in Europe :^)
2019-10-13 14:47
If Turkey ever were to join EU other countries would leave. Imagine Turkey inside Schengen...
2019-10-13 14:51
Nt confused japan
2019-10-13 16:52
hahaha - real flag expert sh
2019-10-13 23:03
Nt bewildered Belgium
2019-10-14 11:25
Boo hoo Even the UK is leaving the EU now. I would rather we stay out as well
2019-10-13 14:50
I don't want to be in racist eu.
2019-10-13 15:02
The things he lists are completely silly, classic nazi
2019-10-13 15:04
There is no Turk nice voted for a dictator. And, yes it's true. Turkey does not deserve to be considired as an EU country and probably never will.
2019-10-13 15:13
Turkey OceanIron
2019-10-13 15:23
Cyprus ballass
there is a point you never understand in this operation all turkey thinking same opininon it's not about erdogan and other other politics
2019-10-13 15:27
we know vut how tf are they part of nato
2019-10-13 15:32
i dont know man , they act like theyre our enemey.
2019-10-13 15:34
lol thats a secret blessing for them
2019-10-13 15:34
expected from mountain man
2019-10-13 15:35
Turkey Krakatoa
It's so funny when a voter of the biggest dictator of history, disrespectful to holy lands (The Blitz), the biggest genociders of the history (Holocaust), one of the biggest colonist, violator and imperialist (In Africa) say all of these. I don't support Erdogan or war but if you are in EU despite of all of these also hyperinflation we can join too. To be honest, I don't wanna join with these shit people (arabic and ignorant). But this doesn't change that you are so barefaced and forgot even just 60 years ago.
2019-10-13 15:43
European logic; 1) ISIS jihadists with European citizenship go to Syria for jihad, no intelligence was given; "Ohhh heeey why are you letting them go Turkey? :(" 2) Refuses to take back their jihadist citizens and judge them with their law 3) They are part of the coalition that intervened in Syrian civil war, Europeans; " ohhh hey What business you have in another country?" 4) 4m refugees come into Turkey, Eu; "Don't send them to us, keep them in Turkey" 5) Eu gives 3 billion for "help", Turkey spends 40 billion 6) Turkey says that she cannot take this refugee flow anymore, proposes to place them in secure are in Northern Syria. Eu; "No you shouldn't do that too" Here you have the European arrogancy
2019-10-13 16:24
remember ottoman empire?
2019-10-13 17:53
2019-10-13 18:30
Turkey Fefalas
I hope we will never be in EU and continue to be butthurt for u guys.
2019-10-13 15:50
1> true 2> it is true because of the current goverment politics but there are a lot of countries who has shitty economy in EU. (Greek dont hide we see you.) 3> US already know we'll fight against PYD that's why they call their army back. Now we guilty "attacking Kurds(!)" who armed terrorist. And thanks eu for not backing for Turkey. Now US has a chance to invade Turkey. Simple af.
2019-10-13 15:57
Germany NitczkaCS
2019-10-13 16:07
Turkey lulpump1
This topic is like: Russia will never be in NATO I mean Turkey dont want to be in EU
2019-10-13 16:19
erdagan wants
2019-10-13 17:52
Greece knk74
Which turkey? The costal/european one which is literally greece but without pork? The one that has more in common with saudi arabia than istanbul? Kurdistan?
2019-10-13 22:42
Turkey thyker
eu lul
2019-10-13 17:05
Turkey is washed up country. Mr trump will destroy their economy!
2019-10-13 17:15
Like Germans did in 1933?
2019-10-13 17:59
Turkey does not occupy any place
2019-10-13 18:06
never heard of the Turkish terrorists in Cyprus occupying the Northern part of their country? it's time for the world to bomb Turkish outposts and free the country.
2019-10-14 00:02
so how bad is it
2019-10-14 18:55
Yeahym, turks randonly spawned on cyprus.
2019-10-14 11:37
2019-10-13 18:29
Turkey going down with Erdogan byebye
2019-10-13 18:33
turkey is eu get over it german
2019-10-13 22:12
2019-10-13 22:36
stfu europoor
2019-10-13 23:37
STFU 3rd worlder
2019-10-14 00:19
Ok 4th worlder
2019-10-15 15:35
Hahaha nt
2019-10-15 17:55
Greece knk74
I would love it if turkey joined the eu But with the sultan no chance You have to lose 9 months of your life in military service because of turkey
2019-10-13 22:39
eu lul
2019-10-13 22:43
2019-10-13 22:59
hahahaha, sweden and denmark is becoming more and more a ware of the problem of a liberal state with fundamentals living in it. Allowing Turkey to become a EU country would give millions of fundamental muslim turks access to eu. Witch would only give problem. as well as of an increased conservative muslim influence over EU.
2019-10-13 23:45
who tf lets turks and black go into eu? you guys dont have to care about immigrants coming from another country.
2019-10-13 23:56
Brazil dolox
Turkey threatens the EU and the EU does nothing OMEGALUL
2019-10-13 23:55
because who cares
2019-10-14 18:53
2019-10-13 23:55
Turkey is lost, a much bigger problem for the world society than North Korea. boycott this hole and transform it from 80% 3rd world into 100%.
2019-10-13 23:58
I mean I would try to write up something bu I know it won’t change your mind so have a nice day.
2019-10-14 00:24
I don't blame you you might be a nice guy :) you ain't responsible for the dangerous decisions made by your dictator. but still you'll suffer from the consequences
2019-10-14 00:27
Unluku birth place bruder.
2019-10-14 00:37
Turkey doesn't need to be in EU. Their future is in Eurasia.
2019-10-14 00:05
I mean, okay.
2019-10-14 00:23
2019-10-14 01:58
World Dingospo
A lot of that can be said for most EU countries. Turkish economy is miles above Greece, their growth in the last 25 years is 250%. Attacking civilians and all that shit can be said for every "democracy driven" invasion in the last 20 years. Get over yourself
2019-10-14 11:46
Turkey yunus06
who cares
2019-10-14 13:30
Japan hirohito
Turkey will never be in EU good for them.
2019-10-14 16:37
who cares idiot ?
2019-10-14 16:38
i hate Erdogan aswell but hey watch these and try to learn some truthes (Attention! Includes confessions).
2019-10-14 16:50
Reunion ramowarr
by attacking in a foreign country?
2019-10-14 16:52
Afghanistan Tajik!
They gave out a reason to cross the border.
2019-10-14 18:27
Ottoman-Deutschland alliance has ended
2019-10-14 18:28
so how bad is it
2019-10-14 18:52
There wouldn't be today's Germany without the Turks
2019-10-14 20:57
omg I think you are smartest german man, I have ever seen
2019-10-14 22:21
I dont care EU or ASIA. Just bring us higher Turkish Lira values. Gpus cpus are too expensive for us
2019-10-14 21:45
+1 Mission Complated
2019-10-14 22:01
Turkey not need Middle East , Europe,NA,Asia,Ocenia Turkey Target is World Peace #TURKEYdontrespecteverycountry We HAWT EZ4TURKEY CRY EARTH We dont care economyic falls... We care our security and We will get Iraq and Syria Lands EASY FOR TURKS
2019-10-14 22:04
2019-10-15 10:50
Thats why people all over the world calls us braindead. They dont get our bait like this one
2019-10-15 15:48
DONT TALK ABOUT OUR COUNTRY Trump can just only doing write shittest tweets USA Forces support terrorists
2019-10-14 22:07
I dont know if this is a bait??♿️♿️♿️ Look im not an erdo fan anyway but heres som facts for u: - turkey is an islamic country that does not even wanna join the christian eu club, so why even bother asking?? Why are u afraid they dont even wanna join themselves lmao
2019-10-15 10:40
yes, but EU will be in Turkey
2019-10-15 10:40
Eu doesnt have freedom of speech. Hatespeech is a thing here
2019-10-15 10:42
IMO, it would be beneficial for Turkey to join the EU in terms of economy and welfare. But Turkey needs to change a lot of things before even attempting to join. Education is obviously the first step. Because Turkey society is nowhere near to be socioeconomically stable and ready. Turkey is highly corrupted and nothing goes in the name of democracy. As one stated above, i can't even imagine those conservative people of Turkey to travel in Schengen Zone. It would be a disaster for Europeans. Because sometimes i get really ashamed of the acts of Turkish immigrants that lives in european countries. Also even with a more liberal leader, if we become able to get rid of erdogan, even it is not directly showed but EU also wants to keep themselves religiously united. So a Muslim-dominated country with a high population,comparing to average population of Europe, is not something that they are really looking for.
2019-10-15 11:34
Israel Sonnabend
2019-10-15 15:38
Unfortunately +1
2019-10-15 15:45
Portugal xxxruixxx
Does the EU wants to keep themselves religiously united? I think I understand what you are saying, but I see this from a slightly different perspective. To be honest, a considerable part of the EU population (particularly younger generations) are not religious or don´t care about religion (even if they are believers). And this is something that, in my opinion, will only tend to increase in the future. The thing here is that there are lot of people in the EU (and this includes both non-believers and Christians) who are concerned about having its culture and society (which was shaped by Christianism) changed by accepting a country - with a considerable population, where it´s main religion (Islam) is different from Christianism not only in its metaphysical aspects but also in terms of its social values and cultural impact. From that perspective Turkey and Europe are too different AT THE PRESENT TIME, for it to be easier for people in the EU to accept Turkey. As for the future, I don´t know..... I think it will depend on how Turkey will evolve (not saying this is in a negative way) socially/culturally and secularism of its political institutions/education. Given this, I have to say that Turkey is a great country, with a rich history and is and will be a very important country too in terms of economics and geo-politics. Being a part or not of the EU doesn´t take away its importance...
2019-10-15 18:48
+1 for the most parts. In addition to that, you are right with the part that european societies are shaped with the value and norms of Christianity. But also if Turkey had a way better economical situation and were thought that it can have a beneficial impact to the EU. I think that EU would care less about being religously united and let turkey in. I still agree that Turkish society is not very compatible to the european culture but EU was using religion as a tool of excuse. When it comes to money and benefits, EU would ignore the other stuff. Not talking about recent situations btw, turkey has no chance with joining, we are fucking broke now lol.
2019-10-15 19:31
Israel Sonnabend
2019-10-15 15:38
Im agree with you about first and second sentence. And our people are not fan of him only half of the country and most of his fans are non-university graduate old people.
2019-10-15 15:44
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