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Krieg nerf?
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Turkey sonbafrali 
2019-10-15 13:09
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yes please
2019-10-15 13:10
no please
2019-10-15 16:17
#2
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
nerf awp, moving accuracy
2019-10-15 13:11
#18
erkaSt | 
France CKs1 
Only noob want this
2019-10-15 13:18
#61
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
unfair gun, awp crouch peek from corner bum dead , chance 1/10 that your ak-bullet will kill him , you can stay still , aim at head and still server will not recognize your shot properly , he doesnt need to do anything and his accuracy is on point , look at pro highlights, they start shooting sooner, they aim correctly dont move and still its only about luck that server will recognize they shot correcly ,with awp you running and gunning,awp standing still is ok let it be, but moving peeking with awp should be nerfed, you dont have to even stop and your accuracy is allways 100%
2019-10-15 14:24
"peeking with awp should be nerfed, you dont have to even stop and your accuracy is allways 100%" LMAO
2019-10-15 15:17
#74
Finland em8 
"you dont have to even stop and your accuracy is allways 100%" someone has yet to learn counter strafing :P
2019-10-15 15:21
#84
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
with awp you dont even need to counter strafe and your accuracy is 100% , with ak you counter strafe and then pray for your first bullet to be accurate and thats unfair, that you do everything right and still your first bullet accuracy is random
2019-10-15 16:05
"with awp you dont even need to counter strafe and your accuracy is 100%" do you have down syndrome sir?
2019-10-15 16:13
tbh you can often just use crouch instead of counterstrafing, especially if you are peeking to the left
2019-10-15 16:16
yeah I know but saying that the awp is 100% accurate even when moving is just simply retarded
2019-10-15 16:17
#109
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
i dont mean 100% but awpers dont need to think about stopping,strafing awpers win 8/10 fights against strafing aks,ak users loose time while stopping , awp player dont need to be fully stopped and has great accuracy, ak user has shit accuracy if his speed is not at 0
2019-10-15 16:26
#121
fox | 
Portugal naskal 
But why the hell would you peek an AWP who's holding an angle with an AK unless you're clutching or something? That's the whole point of the game, there are weapons that fit certain situations better than the others. Play smart don't peek mid with an AK you gon get rekt boy
2019-10-15 17:31
#126
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
:D you don´t have to peek him, awp user will peek you because awp user knows that other rifles sucks
2019-10-15 17:41
#129
fox | 
Portugal naskal 
kek
2019-10-15 17:50
thats why you should play krieg
2019-10-15 16:15
#110
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
they should improve ak as well
2019-10-15 16:28
yes and m4 and aug first shot accuracy they should all be at least 50m to balance the game. with such inaccurate random rifles, it makes pistols smgs etc stronger. and weapons that are actually accurate like awp or scout or krieg are super strong at long range in comparison. when i see in some game someone peek an awp at 10km range and actually hit an ak onetap i think to myself that was like a 10% chance. 90% even if you do exactly this, you will still lose.
2019-10-15 16:30
#113
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Slovakia WhitefoxSK 
exactly
2019-10-15 16:32
How dafuq its unfair, if everyone can use it?
2019-10-15 17:34
+1
2019-10-15 16:32
Seriously men??
2019-10-15 13:50
#40
zonic | 
Denmark Hulvin 
Wtf, awp needs buff.
2019-10-15 13:57
lmao
2019-10-15 14:00
Price nerf pls
2019-10-15 13:12
+1
2019-10-15 13:18
#21
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Ukraine zCainee 
3000? perhaps
2019-10-15 13:38
2900 would be a good compromise
2019-10-15 13:44
#28
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Ukraine zCainee 
Id still buy it kek
2019-10-15 13:52
only 200 extra to be like 4x as accurate as an AK? that wouldnt make much of a difference
2019-10-15 16:16
its not like the SG has no other downsides compared to the AK
2019-10-15 17:09
the only downside i could find is that its a bit less accurate with spraying at about 20m where the ak can still reliably spray ppl down, without the scope. but why would you ever not use the scope at anything beyond 10m range
2019-10-15 17:25
besides that, if you use the scope, its accurate to about 2.5-3 times the range of the AK, it has a faster fire rate, and lower recoil. and it only costs $50 more. and even without scope, its first shot is way more accurate than the AK. you can never use the scope and walk around the map one tapping people. why would you ever not buy it.
2019-10-15 17:27
worse movement speed, worse reload time, worse damage against eco players apart from it being 200$ more expensive ofc
2019-10-15 18:32
#50
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Finland Faust_fSt 
3300 and there would still be 1-3 of those bought in wealthy gun rounds 3000 is still easy to get after a lost pistol round with a plant
2019-10-15 14:02
#58
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Ukraine zCainee 
+1
2019-10-15 14:08
#4
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Russia LeGoBoys 
another “MOM! I CANT ADAPT! PLS DO SOMETHING” Lost all respect for shox. He better will be drinking than practice and learning
2019-10-15 13:12
I use it and I want it nerfed aswell. Its just OP
2019-10-15 13:14
#49
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Sweden b8police 
legit makes it a point and click game
2019-10-15 14:02
+1 we should make every weapon, even Glocks, oneshot likr awps. cuz its not wrong people just need to adapt
2019-10-15 13:15
#36
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
LOL, of course that would be wrong you fucking inbred the sg was always this op the only thing that has changed is the price, therefore, shox is just a bitch for crying about a weapon that has been in the fucking 'cs identity' for 5/6 years
2019-10-15 13:55
He's just making fun lol chill
2019-10-15 16:18
i like glock:)
2019-10-15 16:34
another silver that doesn't get rekt by krieg on mm so it's not overpowered
2019-10-15 13:15
+1 we should make every weapon, even Glocks, oneshot likr awps. cuz its not wrong people just need to adapt
2019-10-15 13:18
lol :p, and zeus unlimited range and infinite ammo :p
2019-10-15 13:55
with acog
2019-10-15 14:37
+1 and i are agree
2019-10-15 13:59
#68
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Krieg always was 1 shot weapon nobody did change that. Only price. Stop bitching dumb
2019-10-15 15:12
if anyone is 'bitching' is that you here..
2019-10-15 17:55
plus dont cry newb mayb they ill nerf it
2019-10-15 17:56
#135
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Russia LeGoBoys 
I’m saying krieg was always here and you calls me newb? Maybe you are retarded you even splitting messages and can’t organize your thoughts
2019-10-15 19:41
ok 1v1? ull not accept then bye newb
2019-10-15 22:03
#140
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Russia LeGoBoys 
Ok. What it will prove?
2019-10-16 03:17
bo i aint be rude w u love
2019-10-16 11:40
You are missing the point
2019-10-15 13:15
#7
chrisJ | 
Netherlands Critycal 
Nerfing a gun that’s been in the game since forever just because people finally started using it properly, nice logic
2019-10-15 13:15
because before the buff it wasnt op, you fucking blockhead
2019-10-15 13:49
LUL so a gun needs to have a mechanical change instead of just reverting price changes? you actually believe the krieg was different when it cost 3000 instead of 2750?
2019-10-15 13:53
no? raising the price IS a nerf just like lowering the price WAS a buff
2019-10-15 13:56
shox refers to the AUG nerf, which was a mechanical nerf. changing the price won't change the metagame that he can't adapt to, it will only slightly decrease the amount of kriegs you see "blockhead"
2019-10-15 13:58
very far fetched to say shox explicitly talks about a mechanical nerf here second paragraph has nothing to do with my reply
2019-10-15 14:02
You do realize it can take time to notice something is broken before it costed more so less people were using it, now people are using it and realizing it is fucking broken
2019-10-15 13:57
Doesn't matter, if you play a game as job for >10.000 a month and you don't try playing with every gun you just have bad work ethics. In other esports you have people experimenting with every single aspect of the game and trying out new metas, oldskool cs pros are just lazy shits who are too autistic to handle changes.
2019-10-15 14:00
Sad as it is, basically true. AK + M4, Dust2 + Mirage. Boring as fuck.
2019-10-15 16:12
yep, that's "back to CS identity"
2019-10-15 16:12
I am so angry I have written a whole article about it :P medium.com/@DogtorFlashbank/old-vs-new-in-counter-strike-9c1b95e0ef77
2019-10-15 16:36
they just changed the price, so u are saying its OP because of the price?
2019-10-15 13:53
yes
2019-10-15 13:56
L M F A O #43
2019-10-15 14:03
#52
2019-10-15 14:05
u are delusional if you think the price change back to 3000 would change anything. everybody now knows how good the gun is. (but im fine with that.)
2019-10-15 14:07
What buff?
2019-10-15 13:53
price reduction to 2750
2019-10-15 13:56
#67
HEN1 | 
Brazil KNG0d 
Lmao its being 1 fuc*** year since it was bufed and it is being used just lately so not that OP anyways
2019-10-15 14:41
what are you talking about, many pros switched to krieg right after the buff
2019-10-15 16:06
#136
HEN1 | 
Brazil KNG0d 
Yes two (chrisJ and Elige) out of 150 on top 30 teams
2019-10-15 19:49
#137
HEN1 | 
Brazil KNG0d 
Btw VINI is using it before the buff
2019-10-15 19:50
If you wanna invest some time in watching late 2018 demos you'll see your statement is not true but I doubt you want that, so let's just pretend you are correct
2019-10-15 19:58
its accuracy actually got nerfed a while back, it used to be even more accurate than the AUG, now it is less accurate. the only thing that was changed is the price was lowered by 250. it was already stronger than AK since like 2014 2015
2019-10-15 16:18
Wait so krieg from 2015 was 1 hs kill gun?
2019-10-15 14:03
yes, only thing that changed was the fire rate and the "scope", before it just zoomed your screen a bit and halved the firerate.
2019-10-15 14:04
2019-10-15 14:14
yep, exactly the same brother, just 3000$ instead of 2750$
2019-10-15 14:15
Wtf I was don't this details. I've never used krieg till today's. Even with 3000 price it's still op. How no one noticed it before.
2019-10-15 14:17
elige, nbk and chrisj were using it for years already tbh, but yeah, that's also the reason why there's no point in mechanically nerfing it, since it's been in the game for ages and nobody ever cared. Valve basically said when they reduced the price that it was done so they hope people will try it out more often to see it's potential.
2019-10-15 14:24
lol no they werent
2019-10-15 14:38
#55
2019-10-15 15:14
Can we back to cs identity again?
2019-10-15 13:15
cs identity bestest when you have 3 viable guns in the game so baguette brain gets it
2019-10-15 13:16
Oke
2019-10-15 13:19
#27
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
+1 shox unable to adapt because he is trash
2019-10-15 13:52
#11
MIRAA | 
Brazil uselessz 
expected for french cs
2019-10-15 13:16
#12
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United States Trump2020KAG 
Price change only. Maybe 150$ more. I hate when teams use 5 of them but it’s a awp destroyer and CT awp don’t fell as OP with the Sg
2019-10-15 13:16
yeah, or just reverse it to the old price, it will still be used.
2019-10-15 13:17
#14
Lemmy | 
Poland MetalMan 
Cry more faguette. Lmao.
2019-10-15 13:16
poland scene dont exist
2019-10-15 15:39
Tell me something new, fag.
2019-10-15 16:22
#20
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Brazil aquaplayy 
pls volvo
2019-10-15 13:20
Fixing the price should be good enough.... SMH
2019-10-15 13:41
#25
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United Kingdom galaxyv2 
shox is crybaby put the aug and sg back to the way they were before and the game is fine again
2019-10-15 13:50
show wants the SG nerf because he doesn't use it, same for the AUG he never used it. Only ZywOo and ApEX uses it in Vitality and ApEX is pretty bad with it so maybe if they stopped complaining about it and instead learned to master the weapon it would benefit them.
2019-10-15 13:53
+1
2019-10-15 13:55
I use the Krieg all the time and want a nerf too. CS is about aiming without your crosshair not with a shitty scope. Long distance kills means absolutely nothing now. Someone can 1 tap 3 guy long A and it feels like nothing special happend. Just look at meyern ace on nuke it looks stupid and low skilled as fuck.
2019-10-15 14:03
#106
NiKo | 
Bosnia and Herzegovina Roadway 
That is the point, they should just remove it in my opinion.. if they want zooming and stuff, go play call of duty.
2019-10-15 16:21
no please
2019-10-15 13:55
#42
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Australia liazz_top2 
$3000 + lower firerate while scoped
2019-10-15 13:58
its not fucking krieg, its sg553
2019-10-15 13:59
#48
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Latvia Trowgar 
PLZ nerf m4a4 / 1 one shot nearby enemies
2019-10-15 14:02
To all the kids say just adapt. Fuck adapting a scoped automatic rifle, this game is about team and skill we can all agree. An m4/ak one tap it aiming in general is far more impressive than a scoped rifle holding a line, especially a automatic one. It's a serious Nerf to skill ceiling and it's abysmal for viewing experience.
2019-10-15 14:31
+1 facts
2019-10-15 15:19
+1
2019-10-15 16:11
True
2019-10-15 16:17
"Just adapt" ok retards, lets bring back the old r8
2019-10-15 15:19
#73
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North America TheReelMVP 
Just make it so head shot does 80-90 damage, ez fix
2019-10-15 15:20
not a 1shot hs, change the spray maybe, lower fire rate. fixed
2019-10-15 15:23
no pls
2019-10-15 15:24
Can we back to CS identity please? absolutely right.... miss the ak/m4 days
2019-10-15 15:25
#78
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World loopoos 
These fucking interns thinking they should change cs fundamentals. Fuck krieg. I don't even play the game when shit like this is going on, like r8 and shit. Go do you innovation bullshit somewhere else. 15y ago people were complaining to me that there were a lot of weapons on the game, but people only used a few of them, so I told'em: "fuck yea, go play call of duty or some other shit if you want plenty of guns". And so they did. Because cs was "too hard" even though there were few guns. Improve maps, grenades, hitbox, connection, anticheat, bugs, movement, matchmaking etc The basics. And install 1.6 if you want some new ideas. Not fucking destiny 2.
2019-10-15 15:25
amen!
2019-10-15 16:16
#79
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France AyoubEl1 
Pro players crying all the time when they can't use a gun , if they want only AK - M4 - AWP . so please CSGO Don't nerf just remove all guns . and keep only those 0IQ players . only when we see more guns used on lans they cry please remove this -_-
2019-10-15 15:31
Just increase the price, guns are allowed to be good in my oppinion. Just make the price justify it.
2019-10-15 15:32
I think they should do something on the CT side to level them off a bit, currently playing CT is a lot harder with managing your economy, with weaker guns vs T
2019-10-15 15:35
nerf ak mens, 1 shot to the head with helmet(((( $350 wastyd
2019-10-15 16:07
#88
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Europe twitchy_ 
It needs to be in 3000-3300 range. Right now is really low in price and you could pick it up with the same risk than picking up an ak47 without compromising utility. By the way, there's more of them on pros than on mm.
2019-10-15 16:11
why would u nerf krieg lul git gud gold nova kids
2019-10-15 16:13
Im okay with them nerfing it, but since i play it ive noticed how shit the ak sometimes is. not even taking the scope into consideration, its still soo satisfying to give one taps you would miss half the times with the ak because of its shitty 1st shot acc. i´d love to see the 1st shot of any full buy rifles as good as the sg`s. i see no problem in aim getting rewarded without relying that much on luck
2019-10-15 16:16
Krieg is okay, I actually played it a bit in 1.6 or whatever the weapon was called
2019-10-15 16:18
krieg
2019-10-15 16:19
just learn to play with it.
2019-10-15 16:22
+1 you dont have to make the gun irrelevant, just adjust it so that it is at least balanced. Better than ak, almost the same price, and has scope.
2019-10-15 17:27
FURIA scared now. They already dropped down almost to tier3 after AUG fix and now they gonna be full tier3 or maybe even tier4 but at least they have 5-year contracts for their AUG and SG abuses without any skill and tactics.
2019-10-15 17:30
XD +1 ence also they got major with those guns now losing to tier 69
2019-10-15 17:32
nref aug nerf awp nerf krieg nerf ak so it not 1 tap nerf deagle recoil remove p2000 bust glock to 1 tap etc and ez game then all can play foking p90 properly and then pros gonna want to nerf it
2019-10-15 17:31
#125
JW | 
India l3thality 
Yes, literally most of the 'well rated' players use the krieg so much (like elige and brehze), please nerf this shitty weapon so we'll get back to CS from CoD
2019-10-15 17:37
#127
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
No it doesn´t need to be nerfed.... but it should be a bit more expensive than it is right now. Same thing as it was with the AUG. I don´t think the AUG needed a nerf just a price adjustment. However, too many people cried all over it and Valve ended up nerfing it (making it almost useless)...
2019-10-15 17:47
#128
tHm | 
Denmark tHm 
This guy is talking about CS identity as a former CSS player. Haha, that's funny.
2019-10-15 17:48
shox and many pros want it*
2019-10-15 17:56
#133
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Singapore Foshh 
No need to reduce the price of Krieg, just remove the scope.
2019-10-15 18:23
add a scope to the ak ez fix
2019-10-16 11:45
How to fix AUG & SG - Put back to origonal price - remove scopes This will stop the easy to use aspect with the gun being able out peek awps and kill people across the map
2019-10-16 11:51
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