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Krieg unpopular opinion
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
In my opinion, krieg isnt op at all. It's way more usefull on the CT side, and if everyone took the time to learn it instead of bitching, they would punish enemy Ts for buying the krieg and they will buy it less. But everyone wants to stagnate, only use the AK because they are used to it, while 1 week of learning the krieg and it's spray pattern can make you as good with it as you are with the AK. I agree that the price should be increased. Tldr if everyone stopped bitching about the krieg and learned it, they would destroy enemies, especially if they have it on ct side. This would stop Ts from buying it. Price should be increased. I wanna hear your thoughts. Write them down. Yes. Mhmm. Yeees.
2019-10-15 17:57
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>Krieg isn't op >increase the price
2019-10-15 17:59
#9
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
I mean, I'm fine with it, I buy the krieg 90% of T rounds. But if they increased it like 300$ above the AK, that's a whole smoke I would need to sacrifice for an upgraded weapon, which I obviously won't do.
2019-10-15 22:41
They need to lower its fire rate to below the AK, its far too accurate.
2019-10-18 04:57
If they lower the fire rate the spray pattern would be easier so even more people who don t play it cause shit spray would play the sg
2019-10-18 08:47
But it wouldnt kill as fast unless you hit the HS.
2019-10-18 09:19
#136
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United States Hubterbean 
First bullet accuracy and running accuracy nerf too
2019-10-18 13:39
No, give other rifles better accuracy on the first shot, that will raise the skill ceiling, nerf the SG's spraying accuracy a little.
2019-10-18 21:05
+1 LUL
2019-10-16 03:30
Just because it's a statistically better gun than the AK doesn't necessarily mean it's OP. They shouldn't be the same price though.
2019-10-16 14:01
If you want to nerf it, it has to be "overpowered" which is what op means. It doesn't have to be brokenly op to be op. But for a decrease of power level to be justified you have to admit that it is overpowered. But I meant it more as a joke than that I was trying to be heinous
2019-10-16 14:04
#89
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
It is OP for its price, thats what i think, also very accurate 1st bullet, 100% armor penetration. It doesnt need nerf, maybe except for that armor penetration, but it should be much more expensive like smaller AWP.
2019-10-16 19:31
correct. problem solved if they just made it $3000 - 3300
2019-10-16 19:43
#97
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
Agreed, from personal expirience in some occasions and positions i prefer to use SG553 instead of AWP in long range. But when the T's get to have SG553 even in not complete full buy, they get somehow in afterplant position, where CT's have to push in. Even in 2v1 situation, very hard to escape from the armor shredding scope of SG. Same shit like with AUG, dont let players choose between M4/AUG; SG/AK47 without winning a good streak and earning money for it, to be able to lose it.
2019-10-16 21:12
hahaha i can tell you think about this a lot
2019-10-16 21:13
#99
s1mple | 
Germany meljan 
Not really, I just have the basics of the game in the back of my head always....smart player :D
2019-10-17 20:26
you are germand and you don't see that there is no contradiction? shame
2019-10-17 21:41
as a joke it's fine tho.
2019-10-17 21:42
#70
2019-10-17 21:54
nope, does not mean it is even slightly overpowered. still shame then
2019-10-17 21:55
So you want to nerf the price although the weapon is totally fine?
2019-10-17 22:01
the op, but yes, there can be other reasons, even though you dont need a reason to give the statement without it being a contradiction.
2019-10-17 22:11
What other reasons would there be other than the weapon being unbalanced in its power level?
2019-10-17 22:13
for example, that the price for the ak and krieg is only 50dollar for similar usage, in most cases, or just doing it for pr since it is such a big thing by now. you could probably think of more possible reasons to change something
2019-10-17 22:17
you still don't need that reason to state, that the krieg being op and the price should be changed, without being contradictive
2019-10-17 22:18
I'm using SG, but the game is SO much more beatiful with AK x M4 imo
2019-10-15 17:59
+1
2019-10-15 18:03
ps. beautiful is not 'balanced'
2019-10-15 18:03
-1 AK/M4 only means a lower skill ceiling because you can get away with knowing just two rifles
2019-10-16 03:47
#34
KSCERATO | 
Brazil [0x0] 
No it doesn't, galil/famas if you don't have the money for it
2019-10-16 04:37
no, it doesn't since the other guns are easier to spray with
2019-10-16 13:58
#94
ropz | 
Europe redtzy 
everyone can agree sg doesnt require much skill if youre already a good aimer so useless opinion
2019-10-16 20:02
+1 only redditor novas and newfags think about changing the ak/m4 meta
2019-10-16 04:35
Having you been living under a rock? Everyone is complaining that meta is shifting to krieg/aug
2019-10-16 14:02
and reddit is crying to stop complaining
2019-10-16 14:05
Oh really? I don’t use reddit so I was don’t know the details
2019-10-18 08:08
No, it began with reddit. Novas who think they're hotshit screaming "muh boring meta" and then hopped on by silvers. The influx of retards and noobfucks who think CSGO is all about gun meta has ruined this game. Noone really gave a shit about since birth of CS till now.
2019-10-18 04:55
Just whatever gun you want, I use negev for anti-ecos
2019-10-18 08:09
#88
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Brazil gtaube 
+1
2019-10-16 19:27
#3
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Denmark Derige 
Krieg is the best weapon in the game overall atm imo. And i dont think thats an issue. Its a bit too cheap yes but having something different from M4/AK/AWP to play with is amazing. And AK even has its pros over it still. I hope valve dont jump on the hate train and nerf it out of the game but i guess time will tell
2019-10-15 18:00
#7
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
+1
2019-10-15 22:39
Yeah I miss playing with descent AUG :(
2019-10-15 22:43
#32
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Oceania Rusuli 
+1
2019-10-16 04:33
krieg is just a cheaper autosniper that can peak into awps and win 90% of the time. the guns more accurate than the fucking awp lmfao. totally nothing broken about that
2019-10-15 18:02
#8
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
It's not more accurate than the awp. It's not even close to the autosniper
2019-10-15 22:40
it actually is, the stats say for themselves. expected from kovac brain tho
2019-10-16 00:56
#38
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Proof it or I...
2019-10-16 13:42
0IQ you obviously know nothing about this game
2019-10-16 03:29
#39
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
#38
2019-10-16 13:42
#35
KSCERATO | 
Brazil [0x0] 
lol silver
2019-10-16 04:37
#40
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Bro, congrats on almost 10 years on hltv
2019-10-16 13:43
#80
KSCERATO | 
Brazil [0x0] 
thanks
2019-10-16 14:49
Otherwise the awp would be too op
2019-10-15 22:44
Autosnipers deal something around 60 dmg in the chest with almost 100% accuracy in the first shot, there is no comparison with the Krieg at all.
2019-10-15 22:52
imagine going for bodyshots with a krieg
2019-10-16 00:55
uh it's a 4shot kill with 666rpm
2019-10-16 02:38
#18
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Canada thelegend27 
3 shot into belly
2019-10-16 02:48
when the gun is more accurate than a awp you with that rof getting one taps with the krieg is the easiest thing to do in the world
2019-10-16 04:16
It's true, and krieg could shoot 3 times really fast without a single control, and if you trigger fast while scoping it would be like a lazer without even move your crosshair
2019-10-16 04:40
Nobody said that, it was just a metric to compare the damage of both weapons.
2019-10-16 16:28
So? are you suggesting there should be more randomness in the game? If anything the other guns should get an accuracy buff
2019-10-16 02:38
it's op, it's like an ak with scope, and is way better than the m4 for sure, that's why u see teams with full sg on t side, and it's powerfull on both sides, I agree that the price should rise a little, that should be enough
2019-10-16 02:46
#41
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
+1
2019-10-16 13:43
#19
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Canada thelegend27 
>remove scope >incr price ez balance!
2019-10-16 02:52
#30
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North America daesoulae 
so basically a worse shitty ak? no thanks
2019-10-16 04:19
#31
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Canada thelegend27 
>worse aight
2019-10-16 04:31
You're braindead Its a straight upgrade How are cts supposed to exploit the difference between ak and sg Retard
2019-10-16 02:55
#42
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Krieg has a scope. You scope in and hold an angle. CTs hold angles way more than Ts. That was my logic coming into this.
2019-10-16 13:44
Cool I'm going to buy galil instead of ak so cts dont get 1hs kills 20iq logic
2019-10-16 13:46
#48
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
I'm just saying. I remember that meyern ace on Nuke against C9. I think C9 didn't buy many kriegs after that.
2019-10-16 13:49
T can get sg whenever they can afford Ct has to save T gets the advantage you say ct gets in postplant anyway Very poor logic
2019-10-16 13:53
#51
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Good point, post plant krieg is op af. Hmmm, interesting...
2019-10-16 13:54
#21
zonic | 
Denmark Phoey 
Take back pre nerfed aug, and raise aug and sg 3-400$ In Price. This way maybe 1-2 players will have aug/krieg and 2-3 M4/Ak and The last Obviously awp. I could see a meta with all riffles being relevant
2019-10-16 03:26
need to nerf the krieg 100% literally +$50 the price of a useless decoy grenade to have like 10x better accuracy
2019-10-16 03:33
that's kinda the ak's problem just buff ak accuracy EZ
2019-10-18 18:43
Not only unpopular, but also wrong.
2019-10-16 03:36
+1
2019-10-16 03:40
#44
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
I respec your opinion
2019-10-16 13:45
Most players, let alone pros are already decent with the Krieg, seems like you're basing the majority of your point off people not being able to use it (which does not add to the discussion), regardless, most are capable already - you're just misinformed. The CT counterpart to the SG is the AUG and that is inferior in every aspect. Dumb logic with the "if CTs pick it up they can punish Ts for buying it", replace the krieg with a dak dak that can one shot to the body and see how your point still applies but sounds even more retarded (which is hard to accomplish).
2019-10-16 03:50
#47
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
I mean, people who bitch about the krieg usually don't know how to use it. But you may be right, but we can't confirm. Also read #42 Another thing, remember that meyern krieg ace on CT side Nuke against C9? Yeah...
2019-10-16 13:48
You're not very good if you think good players will stop buying a gun because the enemy got a highlight with it. A lot more outrageous AK clips than that Krieg one, in terms if how easy the clips are, look no further than the pre-nerf AUG. It shows how flawed and brainless your logic is.
2019-10-16 14:44
#37
Xyp9x | 
Netherlands arTvamp 
Increase the price by $400
2019-10-16 05:09
#45
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Good idea
2019-10-16 13:45
#53
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Sweden crittaN 
definately his idea
2019-10-16 13:56
#54
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Doesn't matter if it's his, still a good one.
2019-10-16 13:57
#55
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Sweden crittaN 
i didnt disagree
2019-10-16 13:57
#61
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Yesn't
2019-10-16 13:58
#43
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France FrighTyyy 
+1
2019-10-16 13:45
stfu
2019-10-16 13:50
#60
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Ok B O O M E R
2019-10-16 13:58
#52
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Sweden crittaN 
Stop telling people to learn and use the krieg. Its better all those plebs stick to the ak so we can keep abusing the krieg without it being nerfed)))
2019-10-16 13:55
#58
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
+1 you are right men))) they always push me thinking I can't connect my krieg spray, ez frags
2019-10-16 13:58
#62
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Sweden crittaN 
2ez))
2019-10-16 13:59
its situational and good. too cheap atm
2019-10-16 13:58
#59
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
+1
2019-10-16 13:58
Krieg CT side pick 1
2019-10-16 14:00
#73
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Meyern ace vs C9
2019-10-16 14:28
#64
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Germany sommares 
agreed. some players/teams dont even buy it on certain maps because it can be overpowered if the ct's get it and use in the right spot. example: D2 b site watching tunnels. if you're back site or hiding behind something its crazy hard to kill u
2019-10-16 14:03
standing still with the right backdrop, as well as a krieg? undiscovered meta
2019-10-16 14:02
#69
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Germany sommares 
wait i forgot something edit: edited my post
2019-10-16 14:03
lol
2019-10-16 14:03
Wtf do you have any brain? You literally can never pick 5 SG on CT side while if 5 Ts pick it up, you will probably lose the round. So in any condition you're fucked up with Kreig. Volvo isn't nerfing it cuz it hasn't reached the level of popularity of AUG in AUG meta and it isn't reaching that level cuz when some of the guys(late learners) picked up AUG, they nerfed it. Also Kreig running accuracy is insane which favors T side. Just run and gun with first few bullets and it is insane those bullets spread, even if you're aiming near head, it will spread to the head.
2019-10-16 14:08
#74
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
Meyern ace vs C9
2019-10-16 14:29
C9 lul
2019-10-16 14:30
#76
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
That's 1 example. There are a lot more probably.
2019-10-16 14:31
What about Furia fucking everyone on their T-side? Thats an example bigger than anything. Furia can't do shit on CT even with couple of Kreigs. Its 20% style and 80% Kreig in their success.
2019-10-16 14:34
Everyone saying big words like adapt or stop crying, no nerf is required. It was in game since the starting and they didn't use it back then. Honestly all the pros are just cry babies. You and every other person who thinks like that is retard**. 1) its not about weapons its about economy. 3-4 years ago you didn't get 1900 when you lost pistol round and most importantly sg553 was still 3300$. During cs:go early years krieg cost was 3500$. now tell me why da fak will you buy a gun with shitty spray pattern when you have mastered ak47 and can just buy awp for 4750$. Back then awp had same movement speed as todays ssg08 aka scout. 2) also before economy update it was very easy to break your opponents economy. Legit watch any game from 2013-2017. Even T couldn't buy as much as they can buy in current CS meta. 3) i just think you haven't even touched sg 553/6/Krieg and used it ingame. Try mastering it and only then you will know how broken it is. Thanks 4) you scope put dot on enemy's head and one-tap. At least make it a 2 tap kill and reduce firerate ffs. 5) If yall don't want it nerfed then buff aug back again.
2019-10-16 14:32
It is way better than ak for same price. So nerf is needed. I see what valve is trying. Trying to get more noobs in playing the game. The R6S players, the BR players. And I don't dislike this approach. Just make SG $3200.
2019-10-16 14:54
yup but 3200$ is still way 2 cheap. 3500 would be a good price as it will punish noobs for purchasing it and it will definitely stop pros abusing this gun. CT defense will get stronger and T will only purchase it it they are on a winning spree or having a huge lead in the game.
2019-10-16 19:23
3500 too high for T side economy. A slower rate+2 tap kill at head at 3200,3300 would be good.
2019-10-16 19:26
ohh ok with 2 tap kill its fine
2019-10-16 19:39
#82
Golden | 
Serbia d1ckson 
I use it more than the AK nowadays. I agree that there is a problem with the economy, Ts lost a pistol and had 3 kriegs the next round in a pro match
2019-10-16 15:08
yeah
2019-10-16 19:25
I like cs rn. t side is not op imo and game is pretty balanced
2019-10-16 16:31
I wouldnt mind a price raise, but it doesnt need to be nerfed. Im still using the aug in some situations. I dont care if the m4 is faster, its easier to aim for the head on long range with an aug.
2019-10-16 19:32
You never buy a weapon thinking "oh no maybe the enemy will get it"
2019-10-16 19:40
except auto sniper in pug lollll
2019-10-18 05:06
#95
OCEAN | 
United States KKonian 
The counter play to an OP gun is to use an OP gun. That must mean its not OP at all
2019-10-16 20:04
2900$ Sg and everyone goes home happy, even tough you'll be already at home when u play csgo
2019-10-16 20:05
#100
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United States frauden 
un nerf aug decrease price of aug and sg to 2000 increase running accuracy and jumping accuracy then it will be balanced
2019-10-17 21:38
#101
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Bosnia and Herzegovina V3DO 
Krieg-2750$ long range laser beam, better than AK in every single aspect
2019-10-17 21:40
#111
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
My opinion too. For the price difference it makes no sense to buy an AK....
2019-10-17 22:16
#106
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United States JustBitsy 
Generally when i see an enemy i click my left mouse button. Preferably with my crosshair on their head and then adjust to control the weapons spray pattern.
2019-10-17 21:56
#110
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Portugal xxxRUI75xxx 
It`s only op because of its price.
2019-10-17 22:15
#114
JW | 
Sweden gNeJS 
In counter strike we play m4 or ak, i dont want it any other way. NERF IT
2019-10-17 22:20
Tldr if everyone stopped bitching about the krieg and learned it, they would destroy enemies, especially if they have it on ct side. This would stop Ts from buying it. Price should be increased. Thats not the point of bitching about sg. Some people want to play 'real cs', without scoped rifles.
2019-10-17 22:20
#116
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Portugal Zedonp 
I think the gun is here to stay dude. You couldn't control scoped rifles buy before and you won't be able to, ever
2019-10-17 22:24
They gonna nerf it/increase the price
2019-10-17 22:27
#118
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Portugal Zedonp 
i hope there isn't too big a nerf cuz imo T side guns need one shot potencial. Ofc they will increase price soon
2019-10-17 22:27
ak? xd
2019-10-17 22:29
#121
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Portugal Zedonp 
Awp scout and others, why should it only be ak?
2019-10-17 22:29
#115
2019-10-17 22:31
#123
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Portugal Zedonp 
#116
2019-10-17 22:39
Wdym, valve will do the same thing to krieg as they did to aug and everyone stops buying it. How many people still roll with aug? 5% from 95 before nerf?
2019-10-17 22:57
#134
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Portugal Zedonp 
So bcuz its a low % it doesn't count? All i'm saying is that the gun will keep appearing in your games, for example i took my time to learn the spray of both scoped weapons and will keep on buying them if i'm playing positions wich are advantageous with those guns. Many people will keep doing the same, thats like hoping the awp nerf would stop all awp players cuz you don't like awps. Didn't happen with the awp and won't happen to the krieg. And btw don't mistake pro scene with pugs, mm or faceit. Might be 5% on pro scene but there are always 1/2 aug players in those platforms
2019-10-18 13:23
5% isnt 95% Awp nerf was slight and its purpose wasnt to cut the big green from meta (its been always part of competitive cs), why u comparing this with aug era? Compare aug with krieg, they are more similar Might be 5% on pro scene but there are always 1/2 aug players in those platforms This is just total bullshit and we both know it.
2019-10-18 15:11
Why u comparing this with krieg* And even if someone wants to run with aug, Im fine with it, its not laser gun anymore.
2019-10-18 15:18
#119
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Germany Shackrag 
krieg solves every problem. an old german motto
2019-10-17 22:28
i use the krige and its fucking broke. more damage better first bullet accuracy better fire rate easier spray and a FUCKING SCOPE. its so easy to 1 tap with it
2019-10-17 22:51
#135
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Portugal Zedonp 
imo whats broke is the price, the gun is already more expensive than the ak so imo it has to be better. But atm its like 250$ too cheap and that makes it an OP buy. No an OP gun
2019-10-18 13:26
its better in everyway thoguh. can kill in body in 3 shot. 100% armor penetration A FUCKING SCOPE easy as spray control. like a completly trash aimer can out aim someone with the krieg if the othere guy has an ak
2019-10-18 15:39
#144
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Portugal Zedonp 
all sprays in csgo are easy, if you don't aim at your enemy you won't kill them with any gun regardless. For 50$ more u just buy the krieg and not cry.
2019-10-18 22:14
yeh i dont like the krieg its not fun to use. its legit too easy to shoot with.
2019-10-18 23:52
#126
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Spain akproxx 
fire rate + scope too op
2019-10-17 22:53
#138
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United States ferric 
The SG and the Aug were always way more powerful than the M4/AK. It's just that no one knew how effective they could be in matches because pros always said that the price of a flashbang every time you buy it makes it not worth it, so no one knew that after putting in quite a few hours just how powerful they could be. The SG had been $2750 for so long but still no one used it because pros always said the movement speed was bad and it wouldn't replace the AK, and here we are today, they are complaining about the exact same thing except for a different weapon just because some pros decided to finally use it in matches after the AUG nerf and now every pro uses it unless they know they will be defaulting more close-quarters and know they wont donate what is even more powerful than the AUG towards the CT side.
2019-10-18 15:06
Read my thread about the Galil. You will see the Krieg isn't op at all compared to the Galil. As soon as the economy on T side changes we'll see Galil meta
2019-10-18 21:08
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