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UKRAINE CS ?
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CIS TyZeusForLeavingNavi 
2019-10-15 18:59
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ukraine cs is no more
2019-10-15 19:00
#3
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Myanmar xdcc 
all crimean superstars went to russia
2019-10-15 19:01
ez deal
2019-10-15 19:04
#20
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Ukraine Slaxer 
russia sucks
2019-10-15 19:29
ukraine sucks
2019-10-15 19:53
#49
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Ukraine Slaxer 
flag checks out
2019-10-15 19:53
flag checks out
2019-10-15 19:53
#52
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Ukraine Slaxer 
brain checks out
2019-10-15 19:54
no brain checks out
2019-10-15 19:55
#90
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Ukraine d1laN 
shut up and go away
2019-10-15 20:23
fan of hellraisers feels sorry for you cheering for best ukranian team who lose to navi junior in bo3 :)
2019-10-15 20:57
#110
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Ukraine d1laN 
shut up and go away dude
2019-10-15 21:25
fan of hellraisers feels sorry for you cheering for best ukranian team who lose to navi junior in bo3 :)
2019-10-15 21:55
#24
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Poland WolwiiS 
still navi was better with edward and zeus
2019-10-15 19:34
bad b8
2019-10-15 20:57
#93
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Yugoslavia chester0608ye 
ukraine is no more
2019-10-15 20:27
Nt
2019-10-15 19:00
rip
2019-10-15 19:01
#5
Zeus | 
Ukraine Najara 
no Zeus no Ukrainian CS :'(
2019-10-15 19:01
jR? 2x fpl champ is coming
2019-10-15 19:05
he is in army lul
2019-10-15 19:44
#6
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Denmark IsErGud 
My country is Astralis
2019-10-15 19:01
Russian CS is powerful, Ukrainian is even worse than polish except the fact that s1mple is ukrainian
2019-10-15 19:03
pl cs right now >>>>>>>>> ukraine cs
2019-10-15 19:04
yes but pl cs is still irrelevant af so how irrelevant ukraine cs is lul
2019-10-15 19:05
lol
2019-10-15 19:54
#9
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Denmark Azyyy 
well im half danish half german so astralis/big
2019-10-15 19:04
well....its interesting to see how such a developed scenes (i mean that there are so many players from that region - russia and ukraine and poland) and still there are almost no high tier teams from those regions (less then 5 teams is so bad for the amount of players) - I tend to believe that those 3 countries has the most players in the world when combined. (turkey is probably in worse state - thousands of players and no actual teams since spaceSoldiers (rip))
2019-10-15 19:04
#41
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Sweden Madrigals1 
when combined, any major 3 scenes will have the most players overall amount of pro and semipro players from every eu country with a developed scene will be about the same with at most 30-40% difference, so 3x > 1x
2019-10-15 19:44
that snece probably has the most players, well, ofc s1mple is among the top 2 skillwise since 2014\2015. and still, it doesn't really matter how many participants in the major the scene has, its about how far they got into the major (quarter\semis\final) or actually won the major...which sadly is only VP in 2014 and Gambit (i count that team in that CIS+poland scene) in 2017. I bet my ass that Denmark has less then half of the players Russia\Ukraine have and still, look at the local team variety (Astralis/heroic/CPH Flames).
2019-10-15 20:05
#114
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Sweden Madrigals1 
so now you jump from "No high tier teams in the region" to "Whoever wins more majors is the best" and "More pro teams, more prestige" Problem most of the CIS teams face is low level of professionalism in the organisations. There are lots of scandals with 322 in lots of shady orgs. There are many teams not getting paid salaries for months. Kazakhstani players have a huge ping in platforms like faceit, which is the best place to start going pro in CS:GO. CIS orgs can't monetise their brand the same way as EU orgs, playerbase is pretty poor, which in the end leads to lots of orgs being non-profitable. Vilat from Dota2 said, that if you are running an org in CIS and which is not top5 in the region, then it's definitely non-profitable org, only living for investors' money. Problem isn't in the playerbase, the whole infrastructure is not working properly. And you comparing only Denmark to only CIS, aren't there a lot of EU countries with literally 0 scene? If EU is only about Denmark, Sweden and France and maybe Finland, then all the other countries, who in sum definitely have bigger playerbase than CIS, have BIG at max. UK? Portugal? Germany? Netherlands? Norway? Spain? Italy? And if you count raw numbers, India and China both must have at least 1 good top10 team, right? You should NEVER count raw numbers when there are lots factors, that in total either make a good pro scene infrastructure, or do not.
2019-10-16 00:52
im not jumping from no high tier to who wins the most, i said that for the amount of players who plays from that region, the are almost no good teams. about the money issue, its always the money, and the kazakh ping problem, its everyone's problem unless ur from west EU or USA. india and china have a lot of money issue and VISA issues to get players out of the region since their countries dont see CS as a Esport (LoL gets much better treatment). UK are not getting teams out but the get players out to good teams which is good enough in my opinion, germany has BIG and not giving much players which is almost like the CIS scene imo, idk about Portugal, didnt see a real scene of there, netherlands aswell. spain has a hugh local scene but doesnt output to the rest of europe and the world, norway sends players away to the rest of the world, idk about italy to be honest.
2019-10-16 08:23
#116
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Sweden Madrigals1 
- Well, BIG is definitely worse than both Na'Vi and Avangar, and even other teams in CIS. - UK has only got Alex in Vitality and smooya in BIG, Alex has never played for UK team ever in his life, he isn't born and raised in UK CS:GO scene, he is just lucky to be in France. Smooya hates UK teams himself, knowing that his only chance is in an international team in Europe. 2 players vs 2 top teams, i think CIS got this one as well. - Other countries you found nothing, so i won't debate anything. I can say that CIS is more alive than dead in the modern Counter Strike, definitely has more potential than any of the countries i listed in my previous comment.
2019-10-16 12:34
this is exactly my point, the CIS is alive and kicking scene, but still, i think that we suppose to expect so much more from such a big region, and its failing over and over again. and im not speaking about the high ranks in mm/faceit CIS players which i found alot of them trash players, cheaters and boosted.
2019-10-16 18:05
#118
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Sweden Madrigals1 
You have to seriously review and rework your debating abilities. I already pointed out your double standards, but you keep putting that as an argument over and over. CIS could be better. Asia could be better. NA could be better. Even most of EU could be better. Your logic could be better.
2019-10-16 19:03
#11
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Georgia Broozman 
Why the fuck they need good Ukrainian team, when they have the best player in the world and they were the best in 1.6 with 5 ukrainian-roster?
2019-10-15 19:04
Are you retarded? What you mean why they need a team? Its as stupid as say "why Poland need a good team if they had VP dominating 2 years ago" or "why Sweden need a team if they had an era". Every country wants to have best team and best players. Plus after 2019 s1mple will be top4-8 at best and 1.6 was long ago. Easy to say "why they need..." if you dont even have scene in your country lmao
2019-10-15 19:28
#19
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Georgia Broozman 
Why so agressive?
2019-10-15 19:29
Are you not smart?)))))) What you mean why they need a team?))))))) Its as bad as say "why Poland need a good team if they had VP dominating 2 years ago" or "why Sweden need a team if they had an era".))))))))) Every country wants to have best team and best players.))))))) Plus after 2019 s1mple will be top4-8 at best and 1.6 was long ago.))))))))))) Easy to say "why they need..." if you dont even have scene in your country lmao xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Thats better?
2019-10-15 19:35
#27
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Georgia Broozman 
way better, men, don't be mad))))))
2019-10-15 19:36
#13
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Europe unlukomaluko 
lmao
2019-10-15 19:04
#16
Dima | 
Russia L0sk^^ 
Ukraine havent teams but have many good players Iam english god
2019-10-15 19:06
many good players 1-s1mple 2 - end of list.
2019-10-15 19:08
SDY, Jr, Skoobyxie
2019-10-15 19:33
we talk about good player , not tier 3
2019-10-15 19:36
#28
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
ok in rus 1elec 2jame 3flamie end
2019-10-15 19:38
#89
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Russia LeGoBoys 
More than other cis
2019-10-15 20:22
What is "good players" in your opinion ? If SDY isnt good player, than we have just 2 good players in CIS: S1mple and Elec
2019-10-15 19:38
#30
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Georgia Broozman 
jame
2019-10-15 19:38
Ok, 3
2019-10-15 19:38
#32
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Georgia Broozman 
GODren xD
2019-10-15 19:39
xD, i just see this durachek is trying to bully Ukrainians but he is too stupid to do it
2019-10-15 19:41
#35
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Georgia Broozman 
nothing new from russians xD
2019-10-15 19:41
Yep, this "trolls" you can find in every Russian school
2019-10-15 19:43
#39
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Georgia Broozman 
good that I'm not living in Russia right now)))
2019-10-15 19:43
are you idiot or what? good players - all avangar players , all navi players , all forze players NOT GOOD Players, its players from SPIRIT(who cant even qualify for minor , if we are talk about overhyped sdy)
2019-10-15 19:44
Well, u just named good teams but not good players, or u really think Adren is better than SDY ? Zemlya poohom togda
2019-10-15 19:46
OFCOURSE adren is x10 bettert than sdy, adren playing vs tier 1 teams with good KDA, sdy playing vs tier 4 teams with +- kda
2019-10-15 19:58
#46
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Sweden Madrigals1 
qikert
2019-10-15 19:47
#21
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Ukraine Slaxer 
where is Navi Junior
2019-10-15 19:29
Russia blame
2019-10-15 19:31
navi hello ?
2019-10-15 19:39
#36
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
navi not ukr anymore. i hope you not blind and know that very well.
2019-10-15 19:42
ok navi in paladins are from england maybe navi is england ? you dumb learn something navi org is ukranian doesent mean shit if there are 3 russians players you bum
2019-10-15 19:45
#55
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
retard than why mouz without german flag if they german org. VP rus org than why without rus flag? who care another games if we talking here about cs , and does matter hltv info about each team cuz all whats going on with cs directly connected with hltv, cuz hltv creating ranking of teams and players +hltv give main awards in cs.
2019-10-15 19:57
RETARD YOU THINK MOUZ AND VP ONLY PLAYING CS ???? YOU DUMB
2019-10-15 19:58
#58
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
who care moron what they playing) we talking about cs here!! and we trust only hltv.
2019-10-15 19:59
thets why you stupid... open youre eyes
2019-10-15 20:01
#64
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
thats why you retard and dont trust hltv) and you should to open eyes if you dont see 3 players with vata flags
2019-10-15 20:03
but you said navi is russians you didnt say navi cs is russian:) again am right as always
2019-10-15 20:04
#78
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
ok navi cs is russ, men9 to camogo BobIIIe bombiT 4to y komandu 3 BatHika . god na3ad ili 5JIeT na3ad Hikto bu ne poBepiJI 4to cs cocTaB navi cTaneT BaTHum, Hy eTo cJIy4iJIoC, mu zhe cmoTpim Ha koHkpeTHo discipliny - cs, kak Hi kak Ho Beritb DoJIzhnu hltv . Hy dymayu ckopo kiknyT CBiHomaTky i Bo3myT sdy i poTom norm, flag cTaHeT CIS)
2019-10-15 20:14
wha.. O_o
2019-10-15 20:19
#92
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
IIIO?
2019-10-15 20:24
you stupid or some shit talk english you peasent
2019-10-15 20:29
#100
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
fakeflager?
2019-10-15 20:45
kak je bombit u svin`ev jevto blokidnih hahaha radi etogo stoit sozdavat takie topiki <3
2019-10-15 20:50
#108
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
stranno toko po4emy ne pered cologne))
2019-10-15 20:59
not worth talking iguess
2019-10-15 21:55
#113
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
dolboeb
2019-10-15 22:27
what navi? only s1mple
2019-10-15 19:43
ok navi in paladins are from england maybe navi is england ? you dumb learn something navi org is ukranian doesent mean shit if there are 3 russians players you bum
2019-10-15 19:52
kak zhe vi besiti, vse vremya do 2019 best cis team bila ukr team i nikto nikogda ne pizdel na ruskie komandi/igrokov. No kak tolko navi smenili flag na russia to srazu povulazili vatniki ebanie, k 4emu etot hate? Vse normalnie adekvatnie cis ludi are apolitical i boleyt i za ukraincev i za ruskih i za kazakhov i td, no nahod9tsa takie gnidu kak tu kotoriy pitaetsa pizdet na ukraine cs.....
2019-10-15 19:44
cheering for ppl who annexing ur country and killing ur ppl? next lvl of cuckoldism
2019-10-15 19:57
its ppl bring back crimea or politician?
2019-10-15 20:01
so its politicans shooting ukrainians at Donbass?
2019-10-15 20:01
no its "russian army" the fun fact you really think its a russian ARMY fighting in donbass, but if if it was a true, il give you 2 day max for capitalization of whole ukraine :)
2019-10-15 20:05
those ppl are sponsored by putin and its a well known fact. If putin would start annexation officially, NATO and US would just isolate u from the rest of world and your ppl would destroy goverment in few days xdd
2019-10-15 20:08
i'm out of any kind of policy, players(regular people) have nothing to do with the government. Most of the russians do not approve what the government do it's a straight fact, so why would i hate people from this country? The way you think make me guess you're vatnik aswell
2019-10-15 20:02
i dont hate them but neither cheer for agressors. Plus most of russans are really disgusting people, lowlife rednecks
2019-10-15 20:04
Are you deaf or smth? Players have nothing to do with the things russian goverment does! I do not support putin or smth i support cs players, there is a line between regular citizens and the goverment, don't you get it?
2019-10-15 20:06
but ur beloved ukrianian s0mple supporting putin lol. Talking that crimea russian, i even saw him liking putins photos at IG
2019-10-15 20:09
and btw why do u cheer for russians? cuz they speak the same language as you? I cheer for a lot foreighn teams, not only teams from my region
2019-10-15 20:11
dont argue with him bro he's a well known fakeflagging russophobe
2019-10-15 21:15
#62
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
bl9 tak oH tpoJIiT procto)) Ho po fakty on praB, ukr komand dazhe na t3 ypoBHe Hety(
2019-10-15 20:02
Sho ti hochesh s etoho dalbaeba) btw navi sami nabrali vsyakih svinechey shob takie vatani smotreli igri Navi I nabirali an etom mediyku)
2019-10-15 20:03
Btw oni really dumayut sho boomicha brali Kay igroka, na samom dele eto bil dogovor winstrike I Navi shob raskrugit’ winstrike v mediyke. Winstrike I navi partneri kak orga
2019-10-15 20:06
+1 boombla is good material for mass media as the fattest guy at pro scene ever
2019-10-15 20:12
all those igl talks are bullshit since qikert confirmed they wanted him as 1st option, but he wasn't IGL. If they wanted igl they just would try to get Jame
2019-10-15 20:16
#81
s1mple | 
Lithuania Gigska 
a ToJIky ? winstraiky BobIIIe disband gro3iJI.
2019-10-15 20:16
ili chto bi takie dolbaebi kastrulegolovie kak ti besilis :)
2019-10-15 20:06
cis cs scene - s1mple, electronic, boombl4 and jame. nobody else r close boombl4 is a tier 1 igl btw thats why hes on here
2019-10-15 20:09
sdy is wasting talent in dead spirit and had zero chance to get into tier1 team. He was more impressive than boombla in winstrike
2019-10-15 20:16
sdy is unproven in tier 1, boombl4 shotcalls and is still good in tier 1. plus he can eat everyone on the opponents team, no wonder nobody fucks with navi tbh sdy on a tier 1 team would be nice to see. its just unfortunate that no tier 1 cis team wants him, avangar and navi r fine
2019-10-15 20:18
boomble was never playing at tier1 wtf r u talking about? even as igl his best achievemnt was passing cis minor tru play-in
2019-10-15 20:20
he is now. just cus someone is dropping good stats in tier 3 doesnt mean theyre automatically better than someone else. obviously boombl4 is a better fit for navi than sdy, and good cis igls are virtually nonexistent (zeus was not good and jame is taken). theres plenty of "upcoming" talents in tier 3 cis
2019-10-15 20:23
sdy was dropping good stats vs teams from top10 as Liquid, Vitality, NiP, ENCE etc... he is ready for tier1, just need a better team, because its hard to perform when ur team fucked with score like 5-16 and btw he isn't playing on star role to save stats, he play for his steam
2019-10-15 20:27
obo dropped good stats vs tier 1 teams on lan, does that mean liquid or eg should pick him up? again sdy yea he can maybe play for tier 1 but the market for players rn isnt really favoring him
2019-10-15 20:30
obo got much more perspectives and better conditions in col. Unlike sdy in cheap cis org, taking players from tier5 academies instead of buying some decent ones. And btw sdy deserves spot for example in avangar much more than some sanji or washed adren
2019-10-15 20:33
sdy is dead tier 4 player /close
2019-10-15 20:18
hltv.org/matches/2334064/spirit-vs-extre.. great player in important matches vs tier 500 mix :)
2019-10-15 20:21
like if any other player isnt underperforming against lower tier teams
2019-10-15 20:22
or like any other t4 player perfoming in one match vs good team(vs liquid) :)
2019-10-15 20:30
one match? check his matches vs vitality
2019-10-15 20:30
#101
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Russia AliasNamer 
s1mple sdy angel bondik....wtf?
2019-10-15 20:48
looks like good tier 4 team
2019-10-15 20:50
#104
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Russia AliasNamer 
or new pro100 line-up
2019-10-15 20:52
every player from pro100 > sdy,angel and botdik so no.
2019-10-15 20:55
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