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LoL<<<<<Literally any cs
ZywOo | 
India another_ban_for_3_days 
Has anyone heard voice comms of teams. Seriously this game has got to be most casual game ever. If csgo pros go that casual, they would immediately drop 15-20 rank in couple of months. LoL pros focus is nowhere near to cs pros focus. A minute mistake in cs is lethal unlike LoL. Only kept relevant by chinese population.
2019-10-16 14:01
Topics are hidden when running Sport mode.
IE? just a weeb game with overcomplicated rules (exactly the opposite of what makes a sport last in time)
2019-10-16 14:03
#7
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Brazil RmM_oo 
Incorrect. Dota 2 makes LoL seems a child game, that's because Dota 2 ruling and boudaries are in another pro level, witch in fact are lasting well above 1 decade. Magic: The Gathering have the most complicated ruleset that I ever seer, and it has 25 years or competitive play.
2019-10-16 14:13
25 years of competitive play by 3 people
2019-10-16 15:42
#47
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Brazil lilmonkey 
lmaoo +1
2019-10-16 15:51
+1 LMFAOO
2019-10-17 15:03
#75
fer | 
World loopoos 
mtg ain't complicated at all dude. try dota so you can see what complexity is all about
2019-10-16 16:30
#103
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Brazil RmM_oo 
I play both about 10 years now. Mtg have 700+ rules, so yeah, it is complicated.
2019-10-16 17:45
#107
fer | 
World loopoos 
mtg is not even balanced. it's so stupid everybody playing the same op decks lol just like dota underlords: the complexity of the rules doesn't matter if gameplay ain't complex. in both games players will very rapidly see from above all rules and determine a metagame where a few combinations are op, and that's it. it's bloody stupid rofl
2019-10-16 17:53
#104
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CIS kryto203 
Complexity is about building a juggernaut with rush ba-dum-tss
2019-10-16 17:46
Nice
2019-10-17 15:07
Complexity doesn't make anything better men)))
2019-10-16 17:47
#106
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Brazil RmM_oo 
Not sayin that make games better. Just that OP is wrong to think that complicated games don't last long enough.
2019-10-16 17:49
k then
2019-10-17 15:00
Exactly
2019-10-16 14:04
#3
kioShiMa | 
France neibaf 
who better den cs?
2019-10-16 14:06
Literally nothing but LoL<<DOTA<<Any decent game<<CS
2019-10-16 14:12
Why u here then?
2019-10-16 14:09
Because I love cs.
2019-10-16 14:11
#73
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India Narendra_modi 
Did u read lol>>>CS xD
2019-10-16 16:29
#8
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Germany Roflcopter234 
Lol pros can go casual mode in league games, cause in lol there is an actual skill gap between players as the game requires more skill than csgo (same for all mobas)
2019-10-16 14:16
what the fuck did I just read? Literally wtf. I was hearing G2 and Fnatic voice comms vs each other and both were casual. So you mean both have huge skill gap between each other. Haha LoL isn't as competitive and pro scene is no way near to csgo.
2019-10-16 14:23
#15
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Germany Roflcopter234 
you have 0 clue of the game, its not even worth to discuss with you lmao. G2 is literally memed because they dont take games serious or run it down. In teamfights communication is way more intense than in any csgo match btw.
2019-10-16 14:29
Go to some lol forum. Oh forgot there doesn't exist a forum for an irrelevant chinese game. Don't want to hurt your feelings bro. Enjoy csgo forum, something which LoL can't give. Read #10 again and your comment if you can. Btw though Germans had good English knowledge.
2019-10-16 14:33
#23
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Germany Roflcopter234 
Mimimi csgo forum. Not like you can enjoy 2 games smh. But skill difference is just way bigger in lol. In csgo every t5 team can upset top teams. In lol the game ends in less than 20min. what do you even mean with casual. That nobody screams like mibr when they win 1 round or that they dont talk that often?!
2019-10-16 15:25
smh doesn't seem like you enjoy 2 games. More like hate 1 and like one not even enjoy.
2019-10-16 15:30
#32
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Germany Roflcopter234 
I have played csgo at least twice as much as Lol but its pretty clear that Lol has a higher skillcap bro. On the other hand you are just blindly hating on a game, which you dont even understand
2019-10-16 15:33
you played cs cuz you got cancer people with you. Have you mastered cs? No one has not even a pro. He might have average bhops, average strafes, average prefire, average spray onetaps,positioning,gamesense,nade usage,... Wtf do you even think is skillgap? CS has way more things to master but no one can while LoL shit game without real competition at top cuz irrelevant game.
2019-10-16 15:36
#43
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Germany Roflcopter234 
"CS has way more things to master" LMAO 0/8 "LoL shit game without real competition" Just saying LoLs playerbase is 10 times bigger why am I even arguing with you when its clear you have no idea of the game?!
2019-10-16 15:43
what playerbase when 99.9% are chinese while 0 chinese in top 10 players itw.
2019-10-16 15:46
#51
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Germany Roflcopter234 
I literally reck you and all you can do is come up with another dumb statement LMAO. china definitly has top 10 players btw.
2019-10-16 15:59
hahaha so fornite bigger player base= best game of all time. nt kiddo I see your logic.
2019-10-16 16:00
#58
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Germany Roflcopter234 
I never even said Lol is better than csgo. I just said the skillceleing is higher. But yeah make more stuff up pls
2019-10-16 16:05
ok so you go with skill ceiling thingy. I don't give a fuck. Even though I think csgo is highest skilled game and its gameplay was never thought. It just evolved itself. It had no components players evolved things and will go on evolving. It can go for more years than any other game. I was trying to prove which is better. Thats it. Btw nice meme game. 2 top teams Fnatic and G2 trash talk while playing cuz their skill ceiling is really high. okk I sense that focus.
2019-10-16 16:11
#76
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Germany Roflcopter234 
I dont even know where fnatic trashtalked in the finals lmao. And actually same for G2 im the finals. But they could do it in the "group stage" cause they are way better than most EU teams, which is also a EU problem. In korea the league is way more competitive. Just compare it to football. Bayern Munich is just like G2. Maybe not this season LMAO but its a good comparison. They are way better than the bottom teams, too and dont play 100% of what they are capable of
2019-10-16 16:30
I wouldn't be following this meme game if not for G2's trashtalks.
2019-10-16 16:40
#61
TenZ | 
Lithuania dozzah 
he has given solid points so far, and he is right. league and dota both have much higher skill ceilings than cs, ive played both league and dota for less than a day and even i can see that the difference is huge. cs is a tactical game, not a mechanical one. you cant compare 2 differently based games. fortnite, league, dota, rocket league, even overwatch have a higher mechanical skill ceiling than cs, yet cs is big because of the tactical aspect
2019-10-16 16:09
ok tell me how much practise do people do in workshops maps. Is that even close to anything in any other game. No. No game is close to cs. Any guy playing 10k in csgo has spent 2-3k hours while practicing in workshop. Rest aside DM,etc. Do you do that in LoL or Dota? These are those games which are hard to pick and easy to master unlike cs. CS:GO aimers are literally best in the world.
2019-10-16 16:15
#67
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
No its not easy to master lmao the skill ceiling for league is a lot bigger than it is for cs trust me lmao im both level 10 in cs and diamond in lol
2019-10-16 16:23
ok so you don't believe in evolution. Mark my words cs ceiling isn't recognized. It will evolve higher than anything. Also no one has master csgo so you can't say that. Pros don't have god like bhops,surfs,strafes. ALl of them don't have good control on all weapons. Some even don't know cz spray pattern. Many aren't as good aimer as others. Many can't flick like others.
2019-10-16 16:25
#77
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Actually bhops are quite random, spray is also random just has a patern. First bullet accuracy also sucks sometimes. All these things tell me that the ceiling is not gonna get bigger mehanically the game will evolve tactically like any other game
2019-10-16 16:30
At some point people would start spraying at long ranges. Evolution of new prefire angles. Team play is evolving and we saw how Astralis helped in changing cs. Close range consistent AWPing is still to be found and tbf I see the potential in this current AWP. Bhops are random but you can have speed boost most of the time for like 20-30 hops. Also most of the people don't master all the guns. Imagine mastering so many spray patters. Way tougher than mastering even 100 legends. Hundreds of hours to master 1 weapon. You can't spray for long ranges. We just avoid many things bro at the moment. You will see crazy things, new and creative skills being developed. I know a guy who plays really good fornite and thinks fornite has really high skill ceiling cuz of building and he can't even burst fire just taps taps with ak. Doesn't use p90 for reputation.
2019-10-16 16:38
#86
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Germany Roflcopter234 
"Imagine mastering so many spray patters. Way tougher than mastering even 100 legends" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH and btw bhops are purely random, it is 50% that you get speed, 50% that you slow down (thats the only reason why autohop exists)
2019-10-16 16:48
I have seen many people who string 7-8 bhops. I know 50% thing but dunno how can you string 7-8. Also speed boosts are random as I tried myself so slow down is probably not much in many cases. Bro seriously just set the distance to maximum on recoil master and try to spray in the center circle. I would give you my first knife whenever I get if you can spray in the middle perfectly and show me from that distance with ak/kreig. Master that level of spray ever in your life and I will give you butterfly knife.
2019-10-16 17:02
sadly not possible already have a butterfly btw 😎) youtube.com/watch?v=v0rlCJ047Ds
2019-10-16 17:15
And if valve makes bhops consistent the games will get much more tougher and highly skilled than anything. Imagine tracking bhopping guys at 300-350 speed.
2019-10-16 16:39
#89
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Ye imagine if valve cared enough, they just dont care none of those things are gonna get changed and thats why cs doesnt have that big skill ceiling, they cant even be bothered to run proper servers and everyone is basically playing faceit
2019-10-16 16:51
it has bro. We will see in future when players will keep on bringing new new skills. Probably would be fun everyone guesses where the smoke will fall. Would love to see those type of skills and shut of all those guys bitching about cs doesn't need skill.
2019-10-16 16:56
#95
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
You are talking about strategic skill which ofc will happen. LIKE IN ANY GAME
2019-10-16 17:02
no guessing smoke lineup isn't strategic skill. I mean new skills like close range AWPing while moving which hasn't evolved and is possible if done perfectly. Also something like jumping scout. It is too hard after that nerf that anyone even tries it etc. Also things like mastering movement inaccuracy with rifles. Spraying while moving/jumping will be amazing with correct speed. Also master the art of getting correct speed combine shift walk,crab walk,running along with gun speed etc+ bhops.
2019-10-16 17:07
#109
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Lithuania Mr|Julius 
Close ranged awping not evolved? We have players like simple doing it every day. Jump scouting is still still being done lots of times. The other things you wrote here are based on luck so thats not enchanting the skill ceiling. I dont think you actually understand how hard a game like league is in a high level
2019-10-17 00:23
Not evolved cuz we don't see crazy close range AWPing. Seriously s1mple does that? No he doesn't. He never does those T side aggressive AWPing. I've seen players like kennyS with AWP only playing post plant and trade game, not even going for openings because of IGL. kenny will show in upcoming time what is close range AWPing. It is actually combined with AWP aim+flicks. Right click and shoot after some time isn't close range AWPing. What kenny did in that 1v2 on cache is. Yeah s1mple has done some plays but seriously he isn't definition of close range AWPing.
2019-10-17 08:03
#98
TenZ | 
Lithuania dozzah 
simply put, in csgo the only 2 main skill gaps are aim and movement, which you improve until you even out with other players, then mainly tactics will help you. of course there are exeptions to this rule like s1mple, but even he couldn't beat astralis 1v5, who used tactics. in any other game the same depth of tactics is being used while also having much higher mechanical skill ceilings. and believe me, csgo pros are nowhere near overwatch pros aim-wise
2019-10-16 17:09
You think so cuz you think csgo pros don't have vertical aiming ability. csgo doesn't provide much opportunities with it. I have seen ow and I can confidently say Shroud can overwhelm them aim wise and he isn't even fit for aiming in csgo atm. Literally ow is like apex legends in many ways. Btw why do you think players who practice 20% of their play time in aiming are worse than freaking ow aimers.
2019-10-17 08:06
Talking about LoL, it only has that tactical side of it. 130+ champions and you just have to learn what they do practice a bit and you can do it, as long as you know those characters. Come to csgo weapon usage. It has different use, smg for running gunning, rifle for normal plays, pistol for ecos, silenced guns to hide traces,etc,etc. Same as LoL but you take much more to master those weapons. No guy can say they have mastered every gun in the game. A perfect guy would have dupreeh's deagle,niko's aim,prime GtR's spray control, shox's strafe spraying, kennyS' AWPing, JW movement and reactions,etc,etc. No one is even close to that. Even ZywOo+s1mple isn't near. Thats the skill ceiling. Lol mastering 130+ legends isn't higher skill ceiling. Waiting till csgo adds 100 more guns to make it higher skilled game. >making game complicated >higher skilled pick one
2019-10-17 08:13
#48
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Argentina Joedash 
in csgo you have to master the aim, mechanics and also spray. Plus you gotta have a good teamwork, strategies and i think more things. Dota and LoL has a lot of strategy and teamwork, but they dont depend of aim and spray, in mechanics yes because, for example, dota 2, the line-phase is important for a economycal leading etc.
2019-10-16 15:55
#55
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Germany Roflcopter234 
yeah but having over 100 champions, from which you have to master a good amount of is already really hard. And thats only a precondition, it doesnt make you a top player
2019-10-16 16:03
#57
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Argentina Joedash 
yap, thats true, is a pain in the ass know the timings and counters of the characters you play, but still csgo and moba have diff game genres so i dont think it can be compared
2019-10-16 16:04
#59
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Germany Roflcopter234 
true, you cant really compare it.
2019-10-16 16:07
so... here we end the discussion , nice to read ur thoughts
2019-10-16 17:19
#72
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Turkey rivaluk 
every champion has other skillcaps, u can use their abilities with different variations csgo has "nothing" to do with who is the best aimer, its the teamplay in addition with smokes nades / goin for refrags. sometimes u just get into a side within 2 seconds. and the main difference is, u can dominate the game in the 1. half and still end up losing the game in cs.
2019-10-16 16:28
#102
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Argentina Joedash 
in the dota 2 case no matter if they reached to your core. If you have an alchemist lvl 25 and well farmed, you can actually turn the tides. Thats why i said that we cant compare this games cause they arent even in the same category
2019-10-16 17:38
in csgo t5 teams can upset cuz it is way more competitive. Literally skillgap comes in to play when the game isn't competitive enough like kennyS era.
2019-10-16 15:31
Jeez do you know Worlds has like 15 times more views than both majors combined? I don't any games but LOL>>>CS and LOL pro scene>>>>>>>>>>cs pro scene
2019-10-16 15:40
cuz chinese population. axaxaxaxax braindead chinese with no work giving LoL 99.999% of viewership. nt meme game fan.
2019-10-16 15:41
????? even on twitch LOL has atleast 2 times more views than both majors combined you are full of shit i dont give a shit about LOL i don't even play it but cs is dead just admit it gtfo
2019-10-16 15:42
nt like Chinese don't migrate. Also Chinese don't use twitch? Haha I see how braindead you need to be to love a Chinese game. Btw possibly you're also Chinese. Hating on CS:GO forum lol.
2019-10-16 15:49
#56
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Germany Roflcopter234 
twitch is literally blocked in china bro
2019-10-16 16:04
Stop wasting your time with him m8 he is a nolifer who plays cs 24/24 and he tries to feel better by saying cs is the best game.
2019-10-16 16:29
#81
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Germany Roflcopter234 
ik, but I am bored atm, sooo...
2019-10-16 16:36
escharts.com/tournaments/lol/2019-world-.. 2 mil viewers peak 900k twitch 0/8
2019-10-16 16:17
0/8 chinese don't live in other countries or use VPN for better services. Anyways I compare it to fornite. So don't mind the viewers or player base. Meme game like fornite.
2019-10-16 16:17
Viewers peak in a fucking groupstage game in playoffs will be 2M every game like every year+chinese which are atleast 15M on their streams LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>CS
2019-10-16 16:31
?? League has its own forum idiot XD
2019-10-16 15:58
nt chinese English speakers don't join CHinese forums.
2019-10-16 15:59
totally chinese forums, when they are hosted in the region of the forum u are entering xDDDDD
2019-10-16 17:09
You don't actually hear the voice comms, you hear ''funny'' snippets from when they're messing around. If you think the voice comms are casual you're a joke. There's a reason LoL is the biggest esport around, the largest playerbase to back it up.
2019-10-16 16:51
yeah the reason is china and its population. Haha ok. Those voice comms are still much worse than normal cs voice comms. I guess fornite is second best game ever cuz it has playerbase to back it up and probably best cuz it doesn't have only chinese playerbase.
2019-10-16 16:54
#66
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
this means the skillgap is less lmfao, skill gap in cso is ''closer'' because the population is more skilled
2019-10-16 16:20
#68
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Germany Roflcopter234 
skillgap in csgo in almost nonexisting cause the celeing isnt high. What mostly matters for pros in csgo is short term practice and not skill. And thats the difference compared to mobas
2019-10-16 16:25
#115
REZ | 
Sweden jackir 
''ceiling isnt high'' you are stupid.
2019-10-17 09:12
#9
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China tralia 
yeah, LOL more entertainment, but if follow your point, isn't the civilization is the best game? LOL is such a game that suit to watch whether you play or not, so it attract lots of ppl who even isn't a gamer. which is impossible to csgo or dota.
2019-10-16 14:20
Bro talking about game and top tier pro scene not viewership. Btw CS:GO is much easier to watch(understand) as it is more realistic than anything else. To understand the small details which makes the game best requires playing though.
2019-10-16 14:25
#16
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China tralia 
ok, csgo>lol /close
2019-10-16 14:32
civ games are casual as fuck
2019-10-17 08:11
#11
Israel bzer 
are you retarded? in cs you have 30 rounds , 1 mistake can ruin a round and maybe force 1-2 eco rounds. In LOL 1 mistake can finish your game.
2019-10-16 14:24
#13
koosta | 
United States yghj 
yes and no. it works in the same way losing a round in CS can lose a game. if i fuck up and lose a round in cs my team might have to save or even double save, the enemy gets more money and then thats a 5th of the game gone right there. if you make a mistake in LoL and the enemy capitalizes it could be very small or very big will not always be game losing.
2019-10-16 14:28
LoL mostly has 5 rounds and 1 mistake means nothing. Do you even know how casual they're? They don't give a fuck when playing. If you ever see cs players, they will just give comms don't trashtalk and say niceeee when they win the round. A couple of rounds leads to momentum and can even go 16-0 or something. We've seen in recent times teams making comebacks, top teams getting raped. Only reason is the momentum which can be caused with a mistakes.
2019-10-16 14:29
#35
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Germany Roflcopter234 
"Lol mostly has 5 rounds" Bro you have 0 clue about the game... Only playoffs are BO5 in Lol. If you win the LEC you played 18 BO1s and 2 or 3 BO5 Csgo also has a lot of bo3 btw...
2019-10-16 15:37
I only watch the games whose voice comms I hear and those are mostly bo5s. I'm not regular guy. Just watch for the meme. Expected from meme game. Shit game for weebs. Good memes btw. Name is justified LoL.
2019-10-16 15:39
Leave it dude. He's retarded.
2019-10-16 16:28
Idk LoL is a different game than cs, but I think you must be more focus in lol
2019-10-16 14:35
>A game which looks like F2P FPS >Destroying CS:GO nt Only thing better is 128tick servers. Games literally came and went PUBG,R6S,battlefield,black ops, whats that recently released game people saying cs 2.0,etc None significantly took away CS players.
2019-10-16 14:41
LoL in 2k20 LULW
2019-10-16 14:42
Btw good meme content in voice comms. axaxaxaxaxax Pros are pro memers. Expect from meme game.
2019-10-16 14:56
Dont compare moba with fps
2019-10-16 15:07
#25
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Germany Roflcopter234 
true
2019-10-16 15:27
0IQ or bait
2019-10-16 15:26
#26
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Germany Roflcopter234 
check his flag
2019-10-16 15:27
check your flag
2019-10-16 15:32
none just your mom
2019-10-16 15:32
ok go worship some cows or something
2019-10-16 15:33
go fuck your mom Alabama 2.0
2019-10-16 15:33
India education LUL thinks Albania is the same as incest capital of USA
2019-10-16 18:39
dota2 > your shit > csgo anytime closed/
2019-10-16 15:40
fps games will be always like this, you need focus 100% of the time because of aim positioning.
2019-10-16 15:41
#45
fer | 
Brazil HLTVmarker 
true
2019-10-16 15:46
#49
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Poland Goodwhy 
Riot>Valve Go this way
2019-10-16 15:57
#54
shox | 
Korea Jew2K 
Whats the point of posting that CS is better on a CS forum. What are u trying to achieve? Make urself feel better that people agree with u?
2019-10-16 16:00
delusional lmfao
2019-10-16 16:08
#70
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Poland kinkers 
making a comeback is literally imposibble in lol, thats enough to make it worse than cs as the game is often done in 15 minutes
2019-10-16 16:26
thats wrong af cs addict
2019-10-16 16:32
lmao
2019-10-16 16:37
#80
fer | 
World loopoos 
lots of retard commenting on this posto on all sides lol LOL
2019-10-16 16:36
#87
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United States Fordring 
I agree <3
2019-10-16 16:49
Just because players have fun sometimes on pro LoL voicecoms doesn't make the game casual. Same is happening on CS voicecoms, we just don't have access to it anymore.
2019-10-16 16:50
#91
NiKo | 
United Kingdom Dogehino 
I say It’s the other way around. In cs you can always comeback from your mistakes but in LoL It’s much more difficult. Still cs>LoL but cs is easier to comeback and fix your mistakes.
2019-10-16 16:52
compare FPS game vs a MOBA, same people talking here are prob the ones that does say to others they have low iq, axaxaxaxa))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
2019-10-16 17:05
#112
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India skyl4rk 
+1
2019-10-17 08:10
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