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Why would you choose to eat meat ? even the actor of the joker realises eating meat is unethical and cruel. youtube.com/watch?v=wCyQFdIu1Bg
2019-10-16 22:49
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Poland henlo 
yes stop eating meat please there will be more of it left for real mens like us)))
2019-10-16 22:50
#13
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France Huvi 
+1
2019-10-16 22:54
#18
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France J0riS 
+1
2019-10-16 22:59
so you are telling me joaquin phoenix is not a real man just because he does not condone torture of animals ?
2019-10-16 23:05
lmao let the cows and pigs run into forest and suffer a cruel death there :D they living 100x better than they would live in the wild
2019-10-17 01:14
Thats why we should stop mass producing animals for meat. And tbh dying in the wild would still probs be better death than tortured to death.
2019-10-17 08:47
#99
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Finland Sev1ce 
it doesnt have to be tortured? dumb fuck
2019-10-17 08:59
No it doesnt. But still they do. They keep them in tiny spaces for their life, slit their throats and kill them. Sure there is so more humane farms but to satisfy the general population the humane farms just dont produce enough. Thats when mass producing companies come in to play and in those factories the life of the animal is nothing but torture from birth to death just so you can put some meat on your dinner.
2019-10-17 09:04
#108
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Finland Sev1ce 
meat good mens))) build bicep
2019-10-17 09:06
Great argument.
2019-10-17 09:08
#205
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Argentina c9_Ileftcsgo 
lol you probably haven´t seen a farm in your life, animals recieve the best care in world, theer is nothing like "torturation", get informated before talking shit to a whole industry that has been standing so long.
2019-10-17 11:21
I grew up in a farm. I know that there is farms who care for their animals. But i also know that these humane farms dont feed the world. Mass production is required to put enough beef on the shelves. And the mass production is where most of the torture and inhumane shit happens.
2019-10-17 11:24
#210
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Argentina c9_Ileftcsgo 
I get your point, but I still thinking there´s simply not other way to feed the whole world, we are human beings and we work better with it, and there is also a lot of hunger in the world, stop eating one of our principal sources of food will just increase it, set priorities lol.
2019-10-17 11:31
It takes tons of water to make one patty for cheeseburger. The water and food we spend on animals could feed BILLIONS of people. We could hinder the hunger in the world if we farmed food for the poor people instead of farming feed for the animals just so we could eat a burger in the fast food restaurant.
2019-10-17 11:38
#229
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Argentina c9_Ileftcsgo 
animals feed is usually grass or useless seeds.
2019-10-17 11:46
No it is not lol. And even if it was those could be combined with other things to make different food.
2019-10-17 11:50
Yeah but in Finland where you and I live, we don't condone the torturing of any kind of animal by law, so it's not happening here, and most animals do need the farm because they have lived that way for centuries, they wouldn't be able to live at all without us, also most vegan food is made with the shit that the animals produce, without that the crops wouldn't be grown as well...
2019-10-17 12:04
#216
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World LeviathaNz 
Giving an advice to someone else while it applies to yourself more than anything. Get off your high horse and stop being blind. So get informed before talking shit as you said. It's been a common information that over exploitation of animals is a thing of horror. Many animals cannot even see the light of the sun, they are in small spaces, growing with malformations, some of them are aggressive even toward their own babies, we're removing teeth/ears/etc to some animals because they are going mad, and other fucking atrocities. Just a quick search on youtube and you will get to see the truth. I am a meat eater but since I know all this shit, I'm more picky on what I take and I eat a lot less meat. Same goes for the milk, I don't drink milk anymore, I'm more picky on the eggs I buy, etc. Being informed doesn't mean you have to stop anything, just consume better.
2019-10-17 11:35
#224
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Argentina c9_Ileftcsgo 
there´s bad people evevrywhere man, there´s people who puts chemicals on their products and we are eating that shit, start dealing with it, world is not perfect but you can´t throw shit to an entire industry just because some massive production farms are breaking rules, of course that should stop.
2019-10-17 11:40
#325
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Slovakia TreeMan 
Every time soi biach in front of me is ordering vegan sandwich I go loud and proud for BMT with extra cheese. Reading your filth I think I'll go for Salmon with feta today.
2019-10-25 12:22
AHAHAHAH NO, i eat meat but everyone knows that cows used for milk are fucking abused, also the majority of deforestation are done for giving more pastures, which mean more meat for us.
2019-10-17 08:50
#120
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Norway Bigg1 
dat^
2019-10-17 09:29
idk how you abuse them in italy but in finland we dont abuse them. I have a farm like 10km away from where i live and they supply our local shops
2019-10-17 12:15
it's not about the single farm but the general. the majority of milk cows that give birth to calf are separated and the milk that should have been used for his child used for us. although this is all ethical so you decide if it's bad or not, i eat meat so i can't complain about it. but the one i worry more is the deforestation tbh we should all eat just less meat, it's not about not eating it. atlasandboots.com/countries-that-eat-the..
2019-10-17 12:34
Also in italy we have good farm aswell. Like in every country
2019-10-17 12:36
#248
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
What are you on about?
2019-10-17 12:32
people like you are sick. go outside, chill, do what normal people do. no not try to save the world, you are too small to understand it.
2019-10-25 12:19
+966666
2019-10-16 23:21
+1
2019-10-17 00:40
#69
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Europe $uicideBoy$ 
+10
2019-10-17 00:54
#85
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Israel fvlion123 
+100000000000000000000000000000000
2019-10-17 01:32
#164
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Australia flashi 
+1111111111111111111 big men russian need big men meats for coal mining and making the buildings mens )))))))))))) not fruit salad for little office worker normie
2019-10-17 10:08
+1
2019-10-17 10:09
+1
2019-10-17 11:39
#2
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
Cause it has a nice taste
2019-10-16 22:51
#4
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
My English just broke idk what happened
2019-10-16 22:51
#38
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Your mind was busy by imagining tasty meat mmmmmm, I wanna eat some beef
2019-10-17 00:16
#40
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
I hev pizza you wanna have some?
2019-10-17 00:17
#45
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Thx mens))) the best drop I've ever had. (even better than awp on 2nd round)
2019-10-17 00:20
#47
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
Why you AWP second round? I knife two silvers, then buy Auto+Armor+helmet+Full Utility EZ 16-0
2019-10-17 00:21
#49
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Tbh I did this in 2016 and I don't remember why (((
2019-10-17 00:22
#52
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
Cuz it works in silver
2019-10-17 00:24
#54
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Maybe m8. I remember that I was a mg1 and my rank was wiped into silver Master after some update or smth like that. And I've climbed ranked towards lem rank in 2 or 3 months
2019-10-17 00:27
#57
ropz | 
Netherlands Sky3rr 
Yeah I rmember the volvo ''let's alll derank'' update as well And nice, it took me 6 months to get carried to LEM
2019-10-17 00:30
You sure about that? Ever eaten a non-processed, non-seasoned, non-salted slice of meat? Tastes pretty bland if you ask me
2019-10-16 23:21
#136
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Latvia Matematikis 
Yeah thats why we season and prepare it? Fuck you menat to say with that, like do you eat plain grass and think it's tasty?
2019-10-17 09:46
The good old grass argument when talking about vegans
2019-10-17 09:49
#146
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Latvia Matematikis 
Well how is his post any smarter? Of course plain meat is quite bland, but so is plain lettuce or whatever you vegans eat, silly arguments demand a silly response. Also idgf about veganism, you can be vegan but i like eating meat so i will continue to do so.
2019-10-17 09:53
Your initial argument was that you eat meat because it taste nice. Someone pointed out meat alone doesnt taste like anything unless its seasoned and spiced. What stops vegans from seasoning and spicing their food ? You even agreed that meat dont have much of a taste alone.
2019-10-17 09:56
#156
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Latvia Matematikis 
I didn't say the original part, but all of this is just silly, because both vegan food and meat is bland with no spices, so it's quite stupid to point that out about meat, but not say that about lettuce or aspharagus or something.
2019-10-17 10:03
Oh wow my bad. Im sorry. But yeah the taste argument is very silly. I didnt realise you werent the one who did the original post. My bad.
2019-10-17 10:06
Hold up, you would rather eat bland slice of meat than idk carrots, apples, bananas, nuts (roasted ofc) you name it. So many tasty fruits and veggies, no need for seasoning or salting or processing. This is also proof that we are more herbivore than omnivore. Carnivores LOVE meat, animals go crazy for that shit. Humans are cucks, we have to cook it and put salt on so it tastes at least normal. I'm not vegan, so I guess you can call me a hypocrite.
2019-10-17 22:22
#289
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Latvia Matematikis 
Yeah i agree, that most fruits taste better than plain meat, but i was more thinking about your general diet, not like snacks, i doubt even vegans only eat nuts and bannanas and carrots, they prepare different foods, but without spices it wouldn't taste as good, and thats my point, that you can't point out meat without spices is bland, if you don't point out that so are salads. So whats the point of pointing it out even?
2019-10-18 07:49
#348
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United Kingdom jMz86 
Plus.... a well seasoned steak tastes much better than a well seasoned salad :P not to mention the fact that if you eat the same amount of fruit in calories as you do meat..... you'll probably be diabetic in no time. :P
2019-10-25 14:10
#326
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United Kingdom jMz86 
Dude....we don't cook it for taste... we cook it so we don't get sick.......any one that eats a steak anything past medium is just eating leather.
2019-10-25 12:22
Well, salmon doesn't have to be cooked, yet people eat it cooked rather than raw. And I didn't mean raw when I said plain meat, I meant it wasn't seasoned at all.
2019-10-25 13:58
#347
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United Kingdom jMz86 
It's still overwhelmingly safer to eat cooked fish than it is to eat raw fish. Raw fish needs to pretty much come out of the ocean and frozen straight away and stored properly if it is to be eaten raw. Also, salmon is relatively low in mercury..... you won't find many people eating raw mackerel, for example (unless it's in sushi). Also, who prefers cooked salmon to raw salmon? :o raw salmon and raw tuna are much better raw than cooked. Even tuna steaks are much better when they are pink inside.
2019-10-25 14:07
Their lack of brain nutrients is slowly taking its toll and they don't even realize :D
2019-10-17 12:02
#167
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Australia flashi 
+1
2019-10-17 10:09
#3
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
I cant decide wheter this is 0/8 or 8/8
2019-10-16 22:51
0/8 because this is not a bait.
2019-10-16 22:51
#12
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Yugoslavia seeeed 
You never know with hltv
2019-10-16 22:54
Really smart guy! Meat eaters = low iq babarians
2019-10-16 22:51
no one said that.
2019-10-16 22:52
#100
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Finland Sev1ce 
0/8
2019-10-17 09:01
#159
HUNDEN | 
Switzerland Perxyy 
Name doesn’t check out
2019-10-17 10:03
#288
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Germany sketchbook 
+1
2019-10-18 07:16
#8
koosta | 
United States yghj 
why do you care that people eat meat? no one likes vegans because all they do is yell at people who are just trying to live their lives
2019-10-16 22:53
why do i care ? because the meat agriculture is torturing animals. they are literally making animals bleed out just to get the best tasting meat. animal agriculture is also affecting the environment hugely.
2019-10-16 22:55
#15
koosta | 
United States yghj 
and you bitching about it on the internet at hltv users isnt going to change anything you massive gaping human pussy for a mouth. noone wants to hear it. youre not better than other people because you virtue signal. you are not changing anything. i understand you have morals but you do not do anything by posting this shit
2019-10-16 22:56
there is no platform where every human is on. just because no one wants to hear it does not mean that people should not hear it.
2019-10-16 22:59
+1 It needs to be heard and advocating for it shouldn't result in such a visceral reaction
2019-10-17 00:28
+1
2019-10-17 00:36
i want to hear people who care about stuff, not insulting and exaggerating like you here
2019-10-17 00:39
Typical NA, gerbil-level IQ response.
2019-10-17 01:20
That animal in a mass production farm wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for meat eaters. Why do you care? Also, FYI controled hunting in the wild is actually good for the animal's life enviroment in the given area. Hunting is super controlled even in my country Bulgaria, a fucking shitshow country
2019-10-17 01:16
#95
2019-10-17 08:56
Hunting and mass production of animals are two different things. I would prefer the animal not existing rather than existing to be fattened and killed for food.
2019-10-17 09:39
While its 2 different thing people call both animal cruelty so theres that
2019-10-17 12:22
Well they arent wrong. Hunting is also animal cruelty just as murder is cruelty.
2019-10-17 20:08
Except a hunter saves way more animals than those internet moaning vegans
2019-10-17 20:58
#251
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
That's called Islam.
2019-10-17 12:35
the majority of the deforestation we do on our planet are done for giving more pastures since the request of meat is too high. i eat meat but everyone know that being vegan is better for the planet. rainforests.mongabay.com/0812.htm this is just an article about it, but it is pretty closed on the rain forest, i'm sure you will google the others btw people hate vegan not because they yell at others but because they never fucking arguments why you shouldn't eat meat
2019-10-17 08:55
How about another joke Murray?
2019-10-16 22:53
It tastes good! 😉
2019-10-16 22:53
+1 in the future people will look back and wonder how we thought it was okay to eat meat
2019-10-16 22:53
It was the prime reason for our brain development over the years of evolution
2019-10-16 22:58
"was" is the keyword here. we have alot of ways to eat and get all of the nutrients we need. meat is not the only thing we need.
2019-10-16 23:00
#87
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
and what about the younger generation that is still growing? veganism can take a toll on them
2019-10-17 01:35
contrary to popular belief humans werent built for eating meat. over time we have developed multiple herbivore attributes like our teeth. fire and cooking of meat did indeed kickstart the great evolution. yet we developed to evolve herbivore attributes because over time we learned and was capable of more versatile plant eating. the younger generation can easily grow and evolve on plant based diet if eaten correctly.
2019-10-25 10:49
#292
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
the body changed after 10k years lmaooo. today's humans are very very different from the first humans
2019-10-25 11:24
evolution is slow. 10k years in the scheme of life or universe is insignificant. the protein we get from animals is from plants that animals eat.
2019-10-25 11:28
#297
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
true tbh, but changing the world back to veganism is near impossible.
2019-10-25 11:30
still not impossible. the argument of veganism isnt only about "cAn YoU gEt EnOugH tHis AnD ThAt" it also effects the environment.
2019-10-25 11:32
#305
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
ehh dunno about that. only the bad outliers in the meat industry pollute (like the brazilians in the amazon) i agree that there should be restrictions on the expansion of the meat industry. but the outright banning of it is a nah from me
2019-10-25 11:36
and now we are in 2019 and theres better alternatives because of science
2019-10-16 23:01
#19
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
because theirs nutrients in animal foods that arent found in plants
2019-10-16 23:00
Most of the people who eat meat based diet also supplement with multiple different supplements. idk how that is different from vegan getting b12 from a supplements.
2019-10-16 23:02
#25
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
what argument is that lol, people who eat eggs, fish, organs don't have to supplement anything. There's also 0 proof supplements work btw
2019-10-16 23:08
lol what ? if supplements dont work then carnivore diet is as useless as a vegan diet.
2019-10-16 23:16
#31
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
what nutrients does someone on a carnivore diet have to supplement
2019-10-16 23:16
Someone on a "carnivore" diet will be dead by 30 but other than that, they will not get many necessary vitamins unless the animals they eat have eaten foods that provide those nutrients.
2019-10-17 01:17
#80
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
how will i be dead by 30, and yea no shit if you eat unhealthy animals you will be unhealthy, still healthier than being vegan though.
2019-10-17 01:19
I'm pretty sure you're not on a carnivore diet and I am sure you would agree, unhealthy animals include pigs and cows which are some of the most consumed meats on the planet. If you think a vegan diet is unhealthy you're clearly misinformed. Obviously if anyone follows a diet wrong they will be unhealthy so a vegan who doesn't balance their diet will have issues, still less than someone who loads their diet with cholesterol and sugar though. (ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565..) btw.
2019-10-17 01:25
I'm not sure why you even bother
2019-10-17 11:11
What a great argument. I like how you dismantled his points. Idk how you even bother posting that shit not putting any effort into arguing against him. Maybe you just know he is right.
2019-10-17 11:15
I didn't present an argument, so I'm not sure how your comment is relevant to my reply. Also, it seems to me that you're agreeing with the LiVitShiro which makes your reply even weirder.
2019-10-17 11:20
I know you didnt. Thats why i made my post around your stupid comment. This whole thread is about arguing from 2 sides and you are here not even bothering saying stupid shit.
2019-10-17 11:21
It should be pretty obvious that I'm not about to debate the matter of the subject, considering my first comment. I was merely telling the guy that I don't know why he would even bother debating with camzh, who has demonstrated that he is scientifically illiterate. I've seen enough people trying to argue against veganism, and their arguments always fall short. I don't see how my friendly comment (to somebody you agree with by the way) makes you all worked up.
2019-10-17 11:34
He assumed you were arguing against me, no need to fight
2019-10-20 22:15
#39
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Switzerland LordVoldemort 
He looks kinda healthy for a vegan since 3 yo
2019-10-17 00:16
#21
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Georgia Nika2 
lol fuck up vegans, id rather eat my healthy and tasty fucking BEEF. while yall dumbasses eat artificially plant made semen based paper tasting sangwiches
2019-10-16 23:01
#26
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
Because people have been indoctrinated into the belief that eating meat is morally acceptable and it has all the essential nutrients that cannot be found in vegan diet. If these people did a little research, they would not be so ignorant and retarded.
2019-10-16 23:09
#28
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
What plants have vitamin a(retinol), b12, b6, k2, d3, f
2019-10-16 23:10
#32
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
Vitamin A from carrots/sweet potato B12 is a form of bacteria found in fresh untreated water and soil. We clean our food and treat water which is why we don't get B12 in its raw form. B6 from wholegrains K2 Natto D3 from sun or mushroom Vitamin F (fatty acids) Nuts and seeds
2019-10-16 23:20
#35
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
vitamin a (retinol) AN ANIMAL VITAMIN, isn't found in carrots my misinformed friend, beta carotene is found in carrots though, about 3% of that is converted to vitamin a if you're a healthy adult ( ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001013 ), infants can't convert it, and about 40% of healthy men and women can't convert it at all ( academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/75/5/900/4.. ) ruminant animals produce b12 in their gut bacteria and absorb that, we can't do that because. wait for it. are you sitting down? we aren't ruminant animals! the only way to get b12 as a human is by eating animal foods, even vegans will tell you this. the b6 is fortified show me what plants have pyridoxal and pyridoxamine. cholecalciferol (d3) is an animal hormone it will NEVER be found in mushrooms, maybe you're confused with ergocalciferol (d2), which isn't utilised by the body. and the d2 is only present in mushrooms if they were grown in the sun researchgate.net/figure/The-case-against.. how do people from countries with little sunlight (Finland etc) get vitamin D3 without animal foods? i'll let you do the research on omega fatty acids, you can tell me about to conversion rates of nuts and seeds (which contain antinutrients which block mineral absorption) compared to animal foods.
2019-10-16 23:49
#37
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
Ok man if all these absorption rates are insane, then why the fuck do vegans not have significantly increased deficiency rates compared to meat eaters?
2019-10-17 00:14
#44
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you say that and dont show me anything
2019-10-17 00:20
#50
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Gj m8, rekt this guy
2019-10-17 00:23
Show you what ? He merely asked a question.
2019-10-17 10:29
vegans look like they havent eaten in years. And dont say about all the athletes who look buff and stuff they use proteins and shit
2019-10-17 01:17
Most of the vegans I know take pills to have the vitamins. Check out athletes that tried to turn vegan, most of them went backwards due to health issue
2019-10-17 10:21
Most of the population eats meat. Why is the vitamin market so huge ? Meat eaters keep taking all sorts of vitamins all the time to compensate for their poor diet and everyone thinks its okay. But when vegan takes b12 from a pill everyone is like hahahah he takes supplements because he dont get it from his diet. How stupid is that.
2019-10-17 10:25
Heu... I don't know where you're living but I never saw anyone taking "all sorts of vitamins all the time to compensate for their poor diet". The only thing I already saw is people taking Vitamin D during winter because of the lack of sun
2019-10-17 10:29
Ah so the vitamin market is huge only for vitamin D. Gotchu. Guess the other vitamins are just for the show.
2019-10-17 10:30
I have no idea of what you're talking about
2019-10-17 10:32
That only means you have no idea what you are talking about.
2019-10-17 10:33
Go home troll, you're boring af
2019-10-17 10:36
That is a great argument. Next time stop talking when you realise you dont have the knowledge to keep going.
2019-10-17 10:40
Next time, try not to insult people if you want to convince them that you're right ;-) You cynical
2019-10-17 10:50
When did i insult anyone ? You went down to call me a troll but i have never done anything else than stated facts and my opinions.
2019-10-17 10:55
#36
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
forgot about k2, look up K2 MK4 vs MK7, MK4 is absorbed the fastest in our bodies
2019-10-17 00:04
#43
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
And also wtf is that B12 bull shit. Ruminant animals don't produce B12, they consume B12 since they eat sanitised foods and drink untreated water. B12 isn't an animal hormone and you my friend need to stop sucking Sv3rige dick lol.
2019-10-17 00:19
#53
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
where did I claim b12 is an animal hormone, maybe get a fucking clue before typing up some shit on the internet. b12 comes from gut bacteria, cows ferment it in their gut, WE ARENT COWS WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DIGESTIVE TRACK FROM COWS, really isn't hard to understand and sv3rige saves lives, keep eating grains though
2019-10-17 00:37
sv3rige is fucking based as hell, 100% baltic as well.
2019-10-17 00:31
#65
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
so glad i started watching him or else id still be having digestive problems
2019-10-17 00:41
#67
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
Ye you must be glad you started watching him so you can accelerate your atherosclerosis.
2019-10-17 00:49
#70
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
0 causal evidence, no experimental research projects to support that, provide to me the mechanism that shows LDL causes heart disease and ill believe you, ill save you the endless googling, you won't find anything, feel free to link me association studies that prove absolutely fuck all though
2019-10-17 01:03
#126
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
yup another article that shows nothing, association does NOT establish causality, show me the mechanisms
2019-10-17 09:40
#91
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/01.cir.0.. What you basically wrote was 'Idc about scientific evidence because it doesn't fit my agenda'. Get Sv3rige's dick outta your ass you batty boy. Go look up plenty of studies demonstrating vegans have a lower all cause mortality, all these Inuit people consuming nothing but 'staple Sv3rige food' and still having high atherosclerosis rate because of all the saturated fat and cholesterol they consume from animal sources. I guess it's too late for you as your brain arteries are already in the process of calcifying and so you will soon develop Alzheimer's.
2019-10-17 03:05
#123
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
association does NOT establish causality, show me the mechanisms
2019-10-17 09:35
didn't they just fucking rekt you? lol
2019-10-17 09:01
#131
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
they didn't, they're both scientifically illiterate, I'm not even gonna pretend that I understand the science 100% because its complex as fuck, just retards linking me articles and studies they don't know how to read
2019-10-17 09:42
"I'm not even gonna pretend that I understand the science 100% because its complex as fuck" then don't try spitting facts if you don't know the antitesis for your argumentations it's like trying to argue if chocolate milk is better than dark one without tasting both of them you sure can give your opinion but that doesn't mean it will be true. btw i eat meat but i still agree with them
2019-10-17 09:46
#137
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
you don't have to be a scientist to understand association doesn't establish causality, there is ZERO causal evidence between LDL cholesterol and atherogenesis in humans
2019-10-17 09:47
but you said by yourself you're not gonna pretend to understand science, so how you gonna say this with 100% certainty if you are not going to even read those links? i might know less then you about this argument but i'm just trying to make u understand that this type of reasoning is not so reasonable. and btw you said this: "feel free to link me association studies that prove absolutely fuck all though".
2019-10-17 09:51
#158
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
go to any medical school in the world, on day one they will tell you that causation vs association aren't connected idk how its hard to understand, to provide real causal evidence to support the claims these retards are making, you need to make a hypothesis around a mechanistic etiology of the process of the actual disease, experimental research projects etc. They will NEVER be able to provide me with any studies or articles that show this, hope this helps
2019-10-17 10:03
You made it clear, now i understand your point I'm gonna check it out for curiosity
2019-10-17 10:12
#265
s1mple | 
Lithuania Alel 
Ok then what the fuck causes atherosclerosis? Is it just a natural aging thing? No because when you adjust other life factors, and only account for cholesterol and saturated fat intake, guess what, people develop atherosclerosis at an increased rate and they are at an increased risk of heart disease.
2019-10-17 19:54
once scientist says what spinach is rich in calcium or iron (don't remember + I don't really care) but after 20 or more years they do researcher on spinach again and it shows what spinach is not rich in those nutrients. scientist says don't eat more than 2-3 full eggs per day cuz you will have BAD cholesterol, I eat 6-10 whole eggs per day and every half of the year I am going to check my cholesterol, and my cholesterol level is just perfect for a man who is eating so many whole eggs per day. Those vegans are braindead because they don't get enough nutrients. scientist says what eating meat will get you cancer but why rabbits get cancer if they are plant eaters... vegans think what eating grass/plants are healthy but they don't understand what those grass/plants are sprayed with toxic chemicals... sad thing what my English is poor and I can't fuck this topic vegan :D
2019-10-25 12:29
#27
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Guatemala Pakal_I 
cba that's why, bitch
2019-10-16 23:09
all this video are not well done vegan diet
2019-10-17 09:03
#41
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New Zealand ey3guy 
im humanitarian. i only eat human
2019-10-17 00:17
#42
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Reunion AlexTenebrae 
Why it's always must be a socialistische retarded thread created by some Scandinavian Eco nazi? Mens, we live in hard world, and if you work hardly you need to have some energy, which you can get only from meat (ofc if you are not eating 50kgs of grass everyday to get equal amount of minerals as in 300grams of meat). So stfu, econazi.
2019-10-17 00:18
i eat Nx as much meat so vegans cant make difference N = #of vegans
2019-10-17 00:21
U are not a real Finn
2019-10-17 00:22
Guess not. Still rather not be so close minded.
2019-10-17 08:54
simply no.
2019-10-17 00:23
and his hair is full gray at 44 EDIT: also "vegan since 3 years old" "I knew it was wrong when I saw fish being killed" :DD what a shill EDIT2: also because a ((Hollywood)) celebrity says he's vegan it's somehow more true?
2019-10-17 00:32
#66
vanity | 
United Kingdom camzh 
wow this (((celebrity))) is vegan it must be good for you
2019-10-17 00:44
Stop eating meat will be more for me 😋😋😋😋
2019-10-17 00:31
#60
Cheater | 
China imd0g 
being vegan is not healthy
2019-10-17 00:32
Surely great actor but this praising of celebs as if they have the patent to the truth is so gullible. You can basically sell anything to ppl trough them. I'd like to see him or any vegan living in a modest lil farm as people have been intended to live in harmony and respect to animals and plants instead of huge carbon footprint mansion in Hollywood hills with private chefs and full mouth of "philantrophy."
2019-10-17 00:53
I didnt even know joaquin was vegan before i saw joker and i still had the same beliefs. Dont try to make this look like i started to believe in animal rights and the environmental effects of animal agriculture just because celebrity said so. I merely used him as a way to maybe affect other people. Maybe they would listen to him instead of me, the random guy in hltv.
2019-10-17 08:53
Why would you even take it personally. Despite your beliefs it's not about you at all. It was general criticism of easily influenced people by opinions of celebs just because they were in movies.. Your intention of using him for that only proves it.
2019-10-17 11:15
I dont give a damn crap about how unhealthy it is (if at all LUL). Eating meat is one of the best things in our life, theres nothing like grilled pork ribs. Astonishing
2019-10-17 01:09
the problem is not eating meat but the amount we are eating. about the 75% deforestation done in our planet are to give pastures and to basically "grow" more meat. btw i'm not vegan #95 is my comment where i posted some links about it
2019-10-17 09:06
Sv3rige is the most disinformed cherrypicking youtuber i know. That dude used to fucking sungaze. Im all up for arguments both sides but sv3rige is just cherrypicking the worst examples and generalizing them as all vegans. Thats like i would make a video about anorexic carnivore and tellings people this is what meat does to you.
2019-10-17 09:01
Who are you to decide whether or not its unethical?
2019-10-17 01:12
You're expecting an actor to behave like the psycho character he portrays?
2019-10-17 01:14
I expect humans to realise the madness of animal agriculture.
2019-10-17 10:49
That's not related to what I said. You said "even the actor of the joker" as if the actor of the Joker would just behave like the Joker, it's a dumb point. I'm not here to have an argument about veganism because it's a waste of time.
2019-10-17 11:15
all vegans must be purged
2019-10-17 01:16
#160
HUNDEN | 
Switzerland Perxyy 
Smart brother
2019-10-17 10:04
#83
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Because we need protein. Meat is the best for protein and other Nutrients. But I do Understand why people go Vegan. BUT please DO NOT stop meat from getting to people who do eat meat. Its just unfair and you are forcing us to not eat MEAT because YOU don't want us to.
2019-10-17 01:30
#89
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
+1
2019-10-17 01:39
well he just said why would you choose to eat meat. he didn't say don't eat meat
2019-10-17 09:07
And I said why we eat meat?
2019-10-17 09:51
well i eat meat too but if meat is the beat for protein and other nutrients (which is true) doesn't mean that it is the best in other aspect. for an example people nowadays eat way to much meat #114 i linked an article about this if you want to read
2019-10-17 09:54
If you want me to read something I will, but don't make me find it.
2019-10-17 09:55
atlasandboots.com/countries-that-eat-the.. leave apart the animals suffering which is completely ethical so you decide if it's bad or not
2019-10-17 09:56
#84
Bangladesh spuf 
2019-10-17 01:32
#90
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
+1
2019-10-17 01:45
#257
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World Beard43 
Haha! Yum
2019-10-17 12:47
#88
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
oh it's inhumane nah its not stfu. we're the top dog. we decide what is food and what are pets. everything beneath us is stupid
2019-10-17 01:39
but the planet isn't. the deforestation we do to give pastures to "grow" more meat is stupid. #95 btw i eat meat so don't come to me saying stfu vegan
2019-10-17 09:10
#200
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
should we ban cities because they destroyed forests then????
2019-10-17 11:17
Yeah if they cut down forests for no reason.
2019-10-17 11:18
#203
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
we can all live in tents. why do we live in cities then???????????????? they only pollute
2019-10-17 11:19
0/8
2019-10-17 11:32
#213
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
your logic is also stupid because "it ruins forests" and so do cities. why do we live in them then?
2019-10-17 11:33
i'm not going to fall for this bait i'm sorry. if you want to actually discuss this argument without saying stupid shit do that on the next comment
2019-10-17 11:34
#217
OCEAN | 
Reunion 1iquser 
we can all live in little villages that recycle a couple of trees. the planet would be better! but we still live in cities... and before you say "stfu villager" i live in a city
2019-10-17 11:35
#98
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Canada YankeeM 
Vegetarian for a month now. FEELING GREAT. Will become vegan after I move to live alone
2019-10-17 08:59
I eat 2,5kg of chicken chest by week. which means, i kill 6-7 chickens by week lmao
2019-10-17 09:02
Bet you are proud
2019-10-17 09:13
Ofc bro... I'm a real men )))
2019-10-18 07:02
Chicken tastes pretty good tbh.
2019-10-17 09:14
#258
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World Beard43 
You should eat more beef men.
2019-10-17 12:48
But it's easier to ge the daily protein goal with chicken than beef...
2019-10-18 06:54
#287
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World Beard43 
That's true, but beef is far more nutritious. I wasn't suggesting you stop eating chicken btw, it's fine but it's basically just protein. Actually you can get a good amount of collagen from chicken too if you chew on the tendons and cartilage in the joints. Now I feel like eating chicken haha
2019-10-18 07:07
What you consider "ethical" is just your opinion.
2019-10-17 09:04
i won't go vegan but for some months i decided to decrease the amount of meat eaten because of deforestation. atlasandboots.com/countries-that-eat-the.. also #95 (link here) those two links are just fucking retarded
2019-10-17 09:17
Why wont you go vegan tho ? I do respect what you are doing and i hope more people would open their mind like you.
2019-10-17 09:20
might be a stupid reason but i'm really squeamish. i'm not joking if i say to you that a lot of food i tried made me reject (like spinach, asparagus, soy ecc..) knowing this i'm just trying to pay more attention to others things in general to do my part for this planet
2019-10-17 09:24
Atleast you do what you can. Alot of people including me have some things that cant really be explained but they are there. We just have to work around them the best we can.
2019-10-17 09:28
+1
2019-10-17 09:29
it's so sad that a lot of people don't even know how much would they do just by not exaggerating
2019-10-17 09:28
#122
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
So what are you promoting here? Veganism or vegetarianism? You named this thread veganism and only talking about meat. Expected from clueless baiter
2019-10-17 09:34
+1
2019-10-17 09:41
Veganism. Meat is the most talked about subject so i went with that. But im against all animal products. Meat is the easiest example of effects on environment and animal rights.
2019-10-17 09:47
Why are you against eating meat?
2019-10-17 09:48
Environment and unnecessary torture reasons. There is no need to mass produce animals in horrible conditions just to murder them for food. Also environment is suffering from animal agriculture because they drink and eat alot plus the methane leaks.
2019-10-17 09:53
Meat tastes good and we need protein.
2019-10-17 09:55
You can use spices on vegan options and there is alot of options for protein on vegan diet. Soy, nuts and beans just to start off the list.
2019-10-17 10:01
Beans are disgusting.
2019-10-17 10:02
Still leaves you with soy and nuts. And as i said there is more protein sources i just named a few.
2019-10-17 10:03
But meat tastes better.
2019-10-17 10:04
#145
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
What's wrong with milk products for example? Let's say homemade cheese, butter and milk from your own cows?
2019-10-17 09:52
If homemade dairy would feed the world the problem would be smaller. But the fact is that homemade dairy and meat is not enough to feed the world and they still contribute to environment in a bad way.
2019-10-17 10:09
#168
LaimB | 
Lithuania Martis 
Yea, but it isn't bad is person consume his own products. So the problem is not in meat eating. The problem is how we get that meat
2019-10-17 10:15
If we didnt have to mass produce animals then yeah it wouldnt be that bad. We used to be hunters and gatherers.
2019-10-17 10:21
Meat and eggs are a crucial part of a healthy man's diet. People who don't eat meat will also probably go blind/deaf or even die earlier than normal people. Just saying
2019-10-17 09:35
The actor that plays joker is a Jew, so his opinions doesn't matter
2019-10-17 09:40
What ? So if he was christian or atheist it would matter ? Religion has nothing to do with the facts we know.
2019-10-17 09:42
Facts?? is it a fact that eating meat is cruel and unethical, no you said? correct
2019-10-17 11:05
It is. Animal agriculture destroys earth and its also causing alot of pain and suffering on the animals.
2019-10-17 11:07
#190
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Japan Onee_chan 
But they still taste good.
2019-10-17 11:11
If you are okay with torture and destroying the earth then go for it.
2019-10-17 11:12
#193
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Japan Onee_chan 
We will start colonizing space soon anyway.
2019-10-17 11:14
bruh
2019-10-17 09:42
it was a bruh of disagree or agree, you will nevel know. btw i'm not jew
2019-10-17 11:15
I sent a flag of Italy you will never know if it was praise or disgust )))
2019-10-17 11:15
daamn
2019-10-17 11:32
Meat tastes good, GL eating grass smoothie lmao
2019-10-17 10:17
Ah yes the grass argument
2019-10-17 10:21
Meat tastes good, GL eating grass smoothie lmao
2019-10-17 10:47
#184
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Canada YankeeM 
Not eating meat not only saves lifes but also helps to fight climate change.
2019-10-17 10:50
#199
rko | 
Saudi Arabia WWF 
Maybe you should try halal meat
2019-10-17 11:17
#204
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Netherlands staticNL 
I just fucking love meat. My girlfriend and I have been trying to eat less of it though, e.g. leaving meat out of pastas and curries. I think the prices of meat should be significantly raised, so that everybody can still eat meat, but much less of it. I also think that the vegan replacement meat should be much cheaper than it is now, it's not expensive to produce and they're only selling it for 2-3 times the price of meat here, simply because they can. If it's vegan "meat" becomes cheaper and regular meat more expensive, I'm sure our collective meat consumption will decrease. And the more people that eat vegan meat, the more companies will produce it and the more variations/options we will have, which should also lead to less meat consumption.
2019-10-17 11:21
Yeah you are correct. It is shame how expensive vegan options are. We need more competition.
2019-10-17 11:40
Its true, we all should go vegan, and every lion and other meat eating animals also should go vegan. And when everyone stops eating meat, we'll hold hands with those lions and zebras and antelopes and we will sing next to the rainbow <3
2019-10-17 11:23
We used to be hunters and gatherers. The problem is that we mass produce animals just to fatten them up and kill them through their torturous lives.
2019-10-17 11:27
I don't care how my steak died as long is it tastes great. We are at the top of the food chain and should all be Alpha males! That's like another shark going around saying we should not eat fish and seals anymore. It's cruel.
2019-10-17 11:41
But the sharks dont have a choice to survive. We do.
2019-10-17 20:01
Not us, but them. I didn't torture anyone in my life, so why should I give up meat? You can boycott such producers, but should you give up meat because of them? People who talk the most about veganism in media they just make self-promotion by using this matter but at the same time they wear leather clothes for several thousand dollars. People who actually gave up meat because of this ideas are a margin. Most people like meat, so doing things that are happening now in the Netherlands is a denial of democracy in which decides the majority, not the minority.
2019-10-17 11:47
lmao
2019-10-17 11:37
Mee syömää pupunruokaa ja tapa ittes pelle.
2019-10-17 11:38
Telling me to kill myself is your argument ? That is great.
2019-10-17 11:42
So you want us to eat all the plants and veggies in the world that produces oxygen for us and all die from lack of oxygen?
2019-10-17 11:39
Your carrots in the field dont make us the oxygen we need. The forests makes most of the oxygen and they are being destroyed because of animal agriculture.
2019-10-17 11:45
Just imagine living on carrots. come on now. I want meat!!!! Lots of it. Huge thick steaks grilled with lots of sauce. You can take your carrots and shove them up your anus.
2019-10-17 11:47
Nice your argument didnt do anything else but prove you are unable to understand what i said.
2019-10-17 11:52
Carrots still have leaves. You people are killing innocent veggies and their leaves which give us oxygen. How dare you!
2019-10-17 11:54
Carrot leaves are insignificant compared to the forests. Your argument is like me saying "oh my god how dare you breathe you are taking away oxygen from a different galaxy !!"
2019-10-17 11:58
Well the vegans will build up a huge apatite and after they eat all the veggies they will eat all the trees next!
2019-10-17 11:59
See yourself out. Shame on me for thinking you could actually come up with some good arguments.
2019-10-17 12:02
Dude! Camels are vegans and I have a zoo thing I walk to and actually pet them. They can't reach the leaves anymore so they eat the bark of the tree. Just telling the facts.
2019-10-17 12:03
why do vegan rats have the need to try and convert and explain why not eating meat is so much better for the environment or how could save the fucking world, just fuck off, read more about it, read more about your fucking shit ass food or grass, and i will listen to a fucking multimilionare cunt talking about vegan/vegetarians for sure, i do agree that something needs to be done about meat consumption, but going vegan or vegetarian is not the answer.
2019-10-17 12:04
Why ? Because its a fact. Animal agriculture is horrible ethically and it destroys earth. Read about it.
2019-10-17 12:08
you read about it more maybe, read about your fucking food, fooking brainwashed cunts
2019-10-17 12:16
Read about my food ? Why ? Give me a link or tell me yourself.
2019-10-17 12:23
imgur.com/3Z9HrNp here is a link
2019-10-17 12:23
Haha i love that one. It only means that you went for the last resort. You realise you are wrong and cant argue any further so you post some memes. Good job.
2019-10-17 12:29
i mean i said i agree that something have to be done about meat consumption, but vegan or vegetarian is not the answer, why the fuck i would have to explain why? you can read it if you have time, you make a topic about Veganism post a youtube video with a multimilionare cunt and that's your argument lmao, 90% of you vegan cunts went vegan cuz is a trend, a fucking "lifestyle" that's why no1 will ever take you cunts serious.
2019-10-17 12:33
Joaquin phoenix was merely a way to get to people. I had the same beliefs before i knew he was vegan. You have to explain the same way i have to explain for rooting with vegans. You just keep on insulting and being mean instead of engaging with a good argument.
2019-10-17 12:41
well you have no arguments aniway, or not real arguments, just some celebrities trying to promote a "new lifestyle", you just read what you want, you had the same beliefs? but you decided to go vegan after some celebs promoted this lifestyle, ok..., , guess case closed.
2019-10-17 12:49
I literally just told you i had same beliefs before i knew joaquin was vegan. Apparently you cant read.
2019-10-17 12:53
#323
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Poland mtumee 
you failed to realise that nobody gives a shit about your opinion
2019-10-25 12:19
you failed to realise that environment dont give a shit about your opinion. keep pushing down the forests and one day your children will say what kind of monster would do this.
2019-10-25 12:35
#335
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Poland mtumee 
do what? I don't eat much meat as is and the meat I buy is organic, where I know the animals were treated well and fed organically. Not eating meat doesn't support ethical meat production, it doesn't solve any problems.
2019-10-25 12:44
why would you destroy the food chain which human race has built over last thousands of years?
2019-10-17 12:37
Because mass producing is far from what we used to do in our hunter & gatherer days.
2019-10-17 12:44
#322
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Poland mtumee 
solution: stop mass production of meat, go back to small farms, increase the price of meat so people eat less of it. Solved.
2019-10-25 12:17
going back to small farms is not the solution. small farms dont produce meat fast enough to feed the earth. increasing pricce tho that would be a good start.
2019-10-25 12:33
#334
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Poland mtumee 
wat. so you don't want to limit meat supply but you want people to stop eating meat?
2019-10-25 12:42
i want to make people research into plant opportunities. the meat supply will go down as the demand goes down.
2019-10-25 13:01
#351
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Poland mtumee 
plant production is worse in many respects
2019-10-25 17:00
How so
2019-10-25 22:49
#360
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Poland mtumee 
for example because row crops have a worse effect on the environment than pastures, which can sustain many different species despite being used to raise animals. Also the pesticides used in farming are quite harmful to animals as well as humans. Of course you can mitigate the latter issue but not the first one, so I don't necessarily think that sustainable meat farming is worse than sustainable plant farming.
2019-10-26 01:35
Wait, i swear fish don't feel pain the same way we do, therefore his reasoning to become Vegan in the first place is stupid?
2019-10-17 12:37
Vegans are betas mens)))
2019-10-17 12:53
#262
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World Beard43 
I only eat beef and some lamb and fish, but my food eats grass so I'm vegetarian by proxy.
2019-10-17 12:54
So funny.
2019-10-17 19:36
#282
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World Beard43 
Hey it's no joke men. The plants get the energy from the sun and nutrients from the air and soil, the animals get their nutrition from the plants like a champ and I eat the animals. It all starts with the plants, but it's important to give the middle man a fair go and ruminants are pro's at digesting plant matter.
2019-10-18 00:16
Veganism = faggotism /closed
2019-10-17 12:54
Veganism is a death cult, moreless a religion. It's a belief. There are absolutely no nutrion in plants, your instincts also tells you this. Vegans always try to make their food look like meat, because they crave meat so damn hard. Just look at well-known vegans and how they prepare their food. Always some red sauce or some shit that looks like meat/blood. A known vegan youtuber said, that he received between 300-400 emails a day from vegans with gut issues. It's one of the most common negative side effects you get from eating only plants. You are totally bloated all the time, and you rush to the toilet 2-3 times a day. You can't digest plants, is it so hard to understand? Also many vegans loses their teeths and becomes extremly skinny, because they starve themself with plants only. Also vegans are ALWAYS mentally ill and can't think straight, because they starve their brain from vital nutrients. It has been proved that your brain literally shrinks on a vegan diet. They are so brainwashed and emotionally unstable, try to argue with a vegan and see how outragoues they react. It's like arguing with a mentally unstable child. There are over 15 important nutrients that you can't get from plants. I will list some of them here: Vitamin B12 Creatine Carnosine Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3) Vitamin A (an animal hormone) DHA & EPA Heme Iron Taurine And more Don't fucking tell me, that you can get those vitamins from supplements. There are 0 scientific evidens that supplements works, and the business in generel is unregulated. Anyways, even you brainwash yourself to believe these supplements works, how can a diet be healthy, if you need to take 10 pills every day? It can't be more unnatural than that. Use your brain, it's common sense. It's not rocket science, but common sense Some youtube videos from well known and big vegan-youtubers couldn't bare it anymore and had to eat meat: youtube.com/watch?v=ZI1Be8C37-k youtube.com/watch?v=oTMn8tRqR0s youtube.com/watch?v=A-3zVslk-xg There are many more, just write "Why I am not longer vegan"
2019-10-17 20:40
The good old sv3rige sub. When you can find actual facts instead of stupid youtube vids that was paid to make. Come talk to me.
2019-10-17 20:47
Hahahahaha nice comeback once again
2019-10-17 20:49
So where is the links to actual research?
2019-10-17 20:51
And what is real facts to you? And why do you not provide any facts to prove me wrong?
2019-10-17 20:51
I was the one to argue. Prove me wrong so i get to prove you wrong.
2019-10-17 20:54
Just wrote a long post based on pure facts and all you can say is unreliable facts? No need to waste more time on someone that is already lost. Good Day my vegan friend. Now i will eat a BIG STEAK
2019-10-17 20:57
Pure facts and quoting sv3rige... cya.
2019-10-17 21:01
Don’t make a post like this when you know nothing and have nothing to say.
2019-10-17 21:03
I have it all to say. You are just merely trolling.
2019-10-17 21:05
Kek
2019-10-17 21:06
kek is one of the best arguments. almost fooled me haha. i almost quit believing in vegan reasons. come back with some links and facts so i actually have something to work with.
2019-10-25 12:07
U again? Still mad hahaha
2019-10-25 19:33
Lol lm not mad. Just hoping you could actually say something on the subject. Guess i was wrong.
2019-10-26 00:34
I did in your post and you rejected it.
2019-10-26 01:22
#283
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World Beard43 
+1 There are so many ex-vegans it's crazy. When I cut out vegetable products the difference was amazing, I can't believe how sick I was, even when I thought I was well it was nothing compared to now. I miss vegetables because they're delicious, but they destroyed my digestion and it's just not worth it.
2019-10-18 00:23
my ex date a vegan boy, so i hate veganism
2019-10-17 20:59
the problem is not eating meat, the problem is the meat industry injecting cows and other things with all kind of shit to grow more fat and give more meat so they can profit more. this is the only reason i would go vegan if the butcher in my village closes and i have to buy regular scuffed meat from super market.
2019-10-25 11:27
are you not worried about environmental reasons ? animal agriculture waste so much water and tear down forests to farm more feed for animals so we can buy a big mac.
2019-10-25 11:29
i couldn't care less about the future. im alive now, i dont plan on having kids. so just what happens, happens and who knows mayb its just a fear mongering agenda behind all. but the biggest problem is our greed not our diet.
2019-10-25 11:31
well that is just incredibly selfish. all i have to say. glad you are not having children because they would suffer from your poor decisions.
2019-10-25 11:33
well, everyone has his own belief's mine is just the government wants to cuck u into a controlled dystopia with this minimalism veganism shit.
2019-10-25 11:35
what does the government have to gain from pushing us in to "minimalism veganism shit" tho ? we are living in a world where companies make fortunes from animals and pay taxes to the country that government can spend. there is literally no gain for them to start stirring shit up now. so nice belief.
2019-10-25 11:39
fixed incomes, fixed food rations mini apartments etc etc. its easier to sustain us with this kind of shit.
2019-10-25 11:42
that shit is going on already. going vegan wouldnt change that at all.
2019-10-25 11:43
yet another way to divide humanity. u have left vs right now u have meat eaters vs vegan. just eat and when u fell good keep eating this food if not just ditch it. its not that hard. when i eat cheese im bloating as fuck and i gain like 10kg mucus more in my throat.
2019-10-25 11:30
the environment dont care what u feel like eating. it cares about the effects animal agriculture has to it.
2019-10-25 11:31
#320
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Poland mtumee 
meat production isn't inherently bad, it's just the mass production that's bad. If you buy meat from good sources you are contributing to improving the meat industry
2019-10-25 12:15
#302
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Australia opzy 
im not vegan but its pretty obv that vegans are good. Millions of acres of land is kept for raising cattle, and then even more is growing food for the cattle. The meat industry is kinda fucking the environment
2019-10-25 11:34
yep. and the fresh water the animals require is massive. i dont remember exact numbers but 1 cheeseburgers takes +2000 liters of water. so inefficient.
2019-10-25 11:36
#359
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
that is the argument that should be pushed way more than it is
2019-10-26 01:31
#306
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Greece atlantic1337 
the thinnest joker
2019-10-25 11:39
the movie is about the begins. the actor lost weight for the role.
2019-10-25 11:40
#310
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Fake reason to stop eating meat: oh no the animal get hurt Woke reason no one talks about: it's unsustainable. We're fucked if we continue it. So stop it
2019-10-25 11:50
well the animal do get hurt. bad. why do people think its fine to bleed a cow to death but not their dog ?
2019-10-25 11:44
#313
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Canada ProvexPyker 
You're right, they do, and it's bad. But you won't stop the meat industry by telling people just that. I think you shouldn't even say it. Just tell em their fucking my environment and it's unsustainable af. More people care about their future than how their dinner was treated. In fact, because people whine about how hurt they get, I'd argue it takes away from the real "best-shot" reason.
2019-10-25 11:49
you think i havent tried ? whenever i bring up the environmental reasons (that is the biggest reason i advocate for plant diet) i am met with jokes, memes and stupid responses that dont try to even debunk me.
2019-10-25 11:53
#316
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Canada ProvexPyker 
Sorry I meant in general even though it doesn't seem like it. But damn I feel you, people are so stupid and blind.
2019-10-25 11:56
yeah. it dont matter how you tell them that forests are being cut down on massive amounts, methane leaks, and so much fresh water is spent so inefficiently. they answer with "but muh grass".
2019-10-25 11:59
#11 is quite right but rn no one really cares and me too. Radical vegana slow down this process as well
2019-10-25 11:52
the extreme vegans are cancer. i appreciate what they stand for but their methods are more like to put off people rather than make them look into veganism.
2019-10-25 12:03
#321
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
He's not Joker in real life he is only some soy boy actor.
2019-10-25 12:17
i would never stop eating my steak.
2019-10-25 12:30
hahaha xD
2019-10-25 12:33
#331
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Australia t0rrent 
"the actor for joker" LMAO
2019-10-25 12:35
just a mean to an end. idk why you find it so funny.
2019-10-25 12:42
#337
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Australia t0rrent 
thats a mad appeal to authority
2019-10-25 13:28
just a example.
2019-10-25 13:31
#341
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Australia t0rrent 
an example of a common logical fallacy? yes
2019-10-25 13:32
idk where the fallacy is, really. i only used joaquin as a way to get to more people, where exactly is the common logical fallacy ?
2019-10-25 13:35
#343
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Australia t0rrent 
the guy is an actor not a political genius and everyone knows this
2019-10-25 13:52
what the fuck is wrong with you
2019-10-25 13:31
idk i just dont condone torture and destruction of our earth.
2019-10-25 13:31
go all vegan if you want but if you want to be healthy, you will have to drop it in some years. It can be 5 years, 10 years depends on the person
2019-10-25 13:58
#346
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Latvia tibr0 
nah the best meal is meat
2019-10-25 13:58
Idk. i eat meat and i dont think eating meat is anything wrong. Like it was happening since forever, and that just seems normal to me. Nothing bad about Vegans tho.
2019-10-25 14:11
Who cares if cows get tortured if I get some delicious steaks
2019-10-25 14:13
vegetarians are so fucking annoying
2019-10-26 01:29
#358
ZELIN | 
Portugal Cyborgy 
"even the actor of the joker realises eating meat is unethical and cruel." wow you sold me on that argument /closed
2019-10-26 01:29
if you're not allowed to eat meat, you shouldn't be able to eat at all
2019-10-26 01:37
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