Both irrelevant and will never be tier 1.
Stan is great when he has a team he's excited to play with.
I.E. Optic and EG now.
I'd rather have Daps build my team. Stan in Col was terrible.
His system of playing off a default requires more experienced players to pull of as well. EG is sort of in a perfect spot where they are going into their peaks skill wise and they have gotten enough T1 experience to make that style work.