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CIS STA_7 
So i saw this offer and now i am thinking is it good? agando-shop.de/product_info.php/info/p10.. Or maybe i should get ryzen 5 3600? I need pc mainly for cs
2019-10-17 09:58
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No Build your own pc.
2019-10-17 10:01
#2
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CIS STA_7 
I have no time for this
2019-10-17 10:03
Shittiest excuse I have ever heard. If you have time to play csgo you have time to build a pc. Building a pc doesn't even take a long time.
2019-10-17 10:04
#7
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Norway FriggeK 
So does changing your tires, but I rather let the polaks do it for me, if you got money and can't be fucked, nothing wrong with it.
2019-10-17 10:05
It's a fucking pc. Very easy to build.
2019-10-17 10:06
#13
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Norway FriggeK 
Not if you don't have experience :^)
2019-10-17 10:11
Then just educate yourself on computers. It's the year 2019 ffs!
2019-10-17 10:13
But that takes more time. Btw I know how to build a PC
2019-10-17 10:28
built my first pc a year ago took me like 3h
2019-10-17 16:25
Bump
2019-10-17 20:43
Its like a lego...
2019-10-17 21:38
#160
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Austria iVolcan 
+1
2019-10-17 17:35
#124
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Turkey JoshDAA 
its easy to change the tire or fix a piston on a car, but you still pay people to do it for you
2019-10-17 16:24
you mean "not if you are retarded". because its pretty fucking simple to screw some screws and connect some cables.
2019-10-17 10:14
#31
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Lithuania ateivis 
Changing tires is also easy, unscrew, take out, put new in, screw back on, still want to do it properly, so my tires wouldn't leave without the car x)
2019-10-17 10:29
thats a nice analogy, because changing tires can also be done properly by anybody, even women. and it can even be done with equipment that every car has to have per law.
2019-10-17 10:44
#37
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Norway FriggeK 
But I never bother, I rather pay someone to do it for me, I see this for people who don't want to build PC's too. If you can't be bothered to build it, no shame in buying pre-built.
2019-10-17 10:47
Well, good for you. And yes there is a fucking shame in it because you are a fucking grown ass adult. You may not have a car-lift at home for quick tire change but everybody has a fucking screwdriver which is all you fucking need, that and 20 minutes to build a PC.
2019-10-17 10:52
#42
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Norway FriggeK 
You don't build a PC in 20 minutes, it takes hours if you don't have experience. And it's not necessary at all it's such a beta cuck mentality to be all PCMR build your own PC when it literally costs pretty much nothing nowadays as pre-builders get deals from the manufacturers. I've always build my own PC, but if someone doesn't want to there is no reason for them to spend hours on research for what parts to get, what to do when installing them, troubleshooting if that would occur, and he says he has not enough time, so your answer is pretty fucking cancer.
2019-10-17 10:55
No it doesn't. /closed
2019-10-17 11:14
PS: your whole life is cancer. you are arguing that a person who says they have the whole sunday to do stuff doesn't have time to build a PC and that it is somehow a "hard" thing to do and that he should pay others to do so, because that is how you have done things your whole life, paying others. shut the fuck up you fucking loser and learn some fucking self-reliance.
2019-10-17 13:46
#66
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Norway FriggeK 
Okay, I guess I offended a farmer.
2019-10-17 13:47
Yeah, I must be a farmer because I am independent unlike you cuck ass who has to call a contractor when their coffee machine breaks. Also, somehow "farmer" is now an insult. Retard.
2019-10-17 13:49
#69
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Norway FriggeK 
Either you're so fucking low intelligence that you can not see from other perspectives or you're trolling here, not sure but I'm guessing the former. nt tho mens ;^)
2019-10-17 13:51
Okay, I guess I offended a weak dependent dumbass who calls contractors for everything. Learn self-reliance dumbass.
2019-10-17 13:54
#73
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Norway FriggeK 
I'm not saying I'm a fucking cucklord who depend on others for everything, however for a stupid fucking thing like a PC, who fucking cares. Working, studying and whatever I wouldn't bother watching and learn today either. However I personally like doing things myself, cooking from scratch, assembling stuff, shopping, driving, whatever. I'm raised if you want it done right you do it yourself. But this doesn't apply to fucking purchasing a computer lmao
2019-10-17 13:57
#130
ropz | 
Europe redtzy 
I built my pc in 3-4 hours because cable management had to be fucking perfect to fit the side wall in
2019-10-17 16:32
so not an ideal configuration, case too small and not enoguh cables.
2019-10-17 16:41
#140
ropz | 
Europe redtzy 
how not enough cables if it works wtf men) case too small might be true
2019-10-17 16:42
it cost you more time than needed, if you had more generous cable length/extentions it would have been easier I guess
2019-10-17 16:49
#131
ropz | 
Europe redtzy 
so yeah its true that its a waste of time when you dont understand which cables to put in which holes
2019-10-17 16:33
#53
kennyS | 
New Zealand INxNITY 
Holy shit you're retarded. EVERY CAR COMES WITH A CAR LIFT WHEN YOU BUY IT ITS BY THE SPARE WHEEL. You should know how to put on a car tire. Its much easier than making a computer
2019-10-17 12:19
#129
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United States jmarcelo 
I didnt have any experience when i built my pc. Watch some tutorials and you'll be fine.
2019-10-17 16:31
#132
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Norway FriggeK 
I've always built my own PC, however the guy who made the thread doesn't want to,
2019-10-17 16:35
You are partially right, the problems with pre builds though are usually that they use shitty hardware/bad brands.
2019-10-17 15:20
#10
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CIS STA_7 
1. I dont even know how to do it, so it would cost time for me 2. I am workung and studying at the same time- so i have only sunday free and i use it for cs and some other stuff i like 3 . Go to the link and watch at the price and specs
2019-10-17 10:08
link is bad. build your own PC.
2019-10-17 10:16
+1
2019-10-17 10:16
#26
f0rest | 
Czech Republic rusteDD 
Youbdint have an hour to build a pc, ok xdd Its a fucking lego, literally
2019-10-17 10:27
#34
sergej | 
Poland Noxize 
rofl, grown man scared to learn how to build a computer, haven't seen that before
2019-10-17 10:42
#54
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CIS STA_7 
I am not scared, i just dont see the reason to do so
2019-10-17 12:43
#176
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World ZMDR 
Reason is you save money and get to make sure they're all hand picked quality components. Building a PC doesn't take more than 2 hours (including OS setup) and theres hundreds of guides on YT showing you every little detail. Stop being lazy.
2019-10-17 21:35
#4
allu | 
Finland Tempppi 
Build your own pc.
2019-10-17 10:04
#60
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India nAgent 
If you don't want to build it yourself pay someone to just assemble it for you. but buying your pc parts directly will save you a lot of money. cause it is customary for pre built PC builders to rip you off by overcharging you for a lot of stuff.
2019-10-17 12:55
in germany you can easily find someone to do it for you for free.
2019-10-17 17:18
Listen, that PC is fine for the most part. You can easily put an HDD in there later. The PSU wattage is a bit low but should be about fine. If you don't plan on doing any upgrading yourself, you will be fine with this PC for the next 3 to 4 years, if high detail full HD gaming is what you're aiming for.
2019-10-17 17:41
go for it, very good deal youtu.be/wJguDHmytaE?t=71 ryzen comparison
2019-10-17 10:06
#6
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Norway FriggeK 
If you don't want to build your own pc. Make sure you get as much GPU for your money as possible. (keep this to a reasonable extent) GPU in most games is what gives you them fps mens)))
2019-10-17 10:05
CSGO is quite CPU depended
2019-10-17 10:27
#36
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Norway FriggeK 
yees but I said most games
2019-10-17 10:46
#9
fox | 
Portugal dave1906 
Bro thats good, but i have eared a few friends of mine that had problems of compatibility with amd processors and nvidia graphic cards.... so you should probably change to an intel processor and it will be as good
2019-10-17 10:08
#11
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CIS STA_7 
Ok thank you! What intel u guess would be good?
2019-10-17 10:09
if you are on budget i would get i5 9400F
2019-10-17 10:12
#163
fox | 
Portugal dave1906 
+1
2019-10-17 18:31
#16
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United Kingdom Quickzao 
It is a good offer, i do have a similiar one and i have no problem with the AMD processor and NVIDIA ! Good offer btw
2019-10-17 10:13
No problem for me either
2019-10-17 10:16
#164
fox | 
Portugal dave1906 
Well yeah probably, each case is a case, they probably got unlucky in the material they got or maybe driver bugs... who knows? Anyway there are a lot more positive reviews about it than negatives, i was just mentioning a problem i have eard off and warn them men about it hehe
2019-10-17 18:39
no compatibility problems between ryzen and nvidia gpu anymore, that was about older amd cpus. i built many and there is nothing to be afraid of.
2019-10-17 10:27
#165
fox | 
Portugal dave1906 
#164
2019-10-17 18:39
can't confirm, im running a ryzen with a 2070 Ti, never had any problems
2019-10-17 11:34
#166
fox | 
Portugal dave1906 
#164
2019-10-17 18:39
2070 ti omegalul
2019-10-17 21:32
no problem at all. 3700x/2060super
2019-10-17 21:32
#12
buster | 
Kazakhstan Nefilim 
Build your own pc.
2019-10-17 10:10
+1 Retards that don't realize you should know how to build a pc. It's 2019 FFS!
2019-10-17 10:17
Do you have pain in the aas that people can't build pc in 2019 ffs?
2019-10-17 11:04
#59
SpawN | 
Switzerland fanb0yyy 
i dont do dog work i dont waste 5minutes of my life for dog work, dogs need to build my pc and i pay these dogs like u are, i have money and if u have money u dont need to do dog work
2019-10-17 12:55
65 iq spotted. Not knowing how electronics and computers work in 2019 OMEGALUL.
2019-10-17 13:14
+1 paying so much more money for worse pc, cause he to dumb to build a pc.
2019-10-17 13:53
+1
2019-10-17 14:02
#79
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Other delmaszm 
much more? any site will build your PC for 50e
2019-10-17 15:16
pls dont chat with me ur not on my level, i accept poor people but i dont like them have a nice day
2019-10-17 19:28
#184
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Poland PanArek 
+10
2019-10-18 08:31
#14
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China serdim 
Ryzen 5 3600 is needed if mainly for cs. FPS of CSGO mostly depends on CPU single core performance. By the way build your own pc.
2019-10-17 10:12
2600 is more than enough for cs and good for other games the next 3 years. you can get 300fps with this cpu in csgo.
2019-10-17 10:32
#147
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United Kingdom Mattthematt 
I’ve got a ryzen 3600 but I’m too pussy to install it. Need to update bios before I can and really cba
2019-10-17 16:47
Decent price for what you get, if you wanna get even better bang for the buck you should configure and build your own but if you don't feel like that, you're free to do whatever you please of course.
2019-10-17 10:21
#24
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Denmark ITerry 
i would go up to the 3600 amazing upgrade to get if you have the cash
2019-10-17 10:23
+1 that cpu is a beast, especially for the price. you won't get something better for your money, if you want to have a cpu for the next 5 years
2019-10-17 10:29
#48
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Denmark ITerry 
Yeah and if it's just for CS i would go for and MD Radeon RX 570 4GB save some money there. you dont need a GTX 20xx for cs
2019-10-17 11:22
true, 20xx for cs is a bit too much. personally i would stick with nvidia gpu, but nowadays you at least have better compatibility
2019-10-17 12:05
#29
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Europe jvesper 
Build your own pc.
2019-10-17 10:28
you can buy the hardware and let your local computer store build it as well
2019-10-17 10:36
#95
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Nepal hpbaxx 
..which will be more expensive than the offer he posted
2019-10-17 15:49
nope, not in nepal, neither in germany. depends on the store, they mostly get payed for every 10min or so
2019-10-17 20:43
#173
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Nepal hpbaxx 
well, the guy who posted it on mydealz wrote "pvg = 705€ for parts only", so I was just taking his word for it
2019-10-17 21:29
wow thats some good money for that x) probably around 40 -50€
2019-10-17 21:36
For the price this is somewhat decent, but yeah, prebuilts are a risky pick, you could rather do what #33 said and use a store in which you pick your own parts and they put the pc together, if you want to get rid of the hassle of building a pc and actually control what components are in the PC.
2019-10-17 10:47
#40
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Finland jensar 
I would definitely go for ryzen 5 3600, it's not that much expensive. And i would go for 600w power supply, it's just 10e extra and gives you little room for power consumption. No problem with AMD + nvidia, go for it.
2019-10-17 10:52
This is decent pc,even i would say best option for next couple of years of use,only need to change that psu for something little stronger
2019-10-17 10:53
+1
2019-10-17 11:07
#56
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CIS STA_7 
To ryzen 5 3600 6 cores mb?
2019-10-17 12:43
#45
broky | 
Latvia em1^ 
just got ryzen 3600 and fps is insane, i play 1280x960 low settings and get like 400-500 fps mostly xd
2019-10-17 11:09
#46
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Japan Onee_chan 
Nice mens))
2019-10-17 11:12
#55
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CIS STA_7 
6 cores 3600?
2019-10-17 12:43
#58
broky | 
Latvia em1^ 
ye
2019-10-17 12:49
People here saying "build your own PC" dude shut the fuck up, if he dont want to and spend 5-15% more money than its his fault. Not everyone has the knowledge to build his own pc. Ofc in the ends its much better and funnier but you cant tell a normal human being to build it if he has no experience
2019-10-17 11:26
#68
buster | 
Kazakhstan Nefilim 
He must build his own pc.
2019-10-17 13:50
Must be close to a retard if you don't figure it out even with no past experience.... that's how easy it is these days. Price depends where you live, can be more than 15% here for me this is also with worse cooler for cpu, worse memory, worse hard drive etc etc. If you rich as fuck, you prob used to not doing anything for yourself... but if you are not born a complete mongoloid this should be easy.
2019-10-17 14:03
#97
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Nepal hpbaxx 
>if he dont want to and spend 5-15% more money than its his fault >pvg 704€ choose one
2019-10-17 15:51
#52
s1mple | 
Germany dr9zen 
its ok for csgo mens))
2019-10-17 12:10
only because of the power supply, do not buy this product. its 2019. theres no reason not to buy a 80+ gold certified power supply. and get one with more than 450W so you dont have to worry about it if you ever buy 2nd graphics card. at least 600W. its just a bad investment to buy a low watt power supply. a good one will easily last you 10 years, maybe multiple decades.
2019-10-17 12:46
450 may be close to limit, but 500-550w is more than enough.
2019-10-17 13:51
for one rtx2060, you should have 500w psu according to specifications. they have 8 pin power connector so they draw max 225W and they support directx 12 and vulkan so you may very well want to add a 2nd gpu in the future. with 2 rtx2060, you would need at least 725W PSU. and thats if you dont overclock anything. you dont want to spend money now on a psu that you might replace within the next 10 years. thats just a bad way of spending money.
2019-10-17 15:11
yeah if you were talking SLI, sure. just that I thought it was common knowledge that SLI sucks ASS. it makes no sense to do it now or in 5 years. you will jsut buy an nvidia 3080 or some shit instead if you need an upgrade in 5 years, so a 550w PSU is not a waste or anything whatsoever and more than enough to power any system, especially a weak one such as OP's.
2019-10-17 15:25
no with dx12 or vulkan you dont need sli, you dont even need to have 2 of the same model or brand gpus, you can stick anything together and the directx or vulkan or whatever other interface will divide the load over the available gpus correctly its the future baby
2019-10-17 15:26
yeah, the distant future maybe. you can go to any hardware community and nobody will talk about using 2 gpus. for the next 5-10 years, one powerful gpu will remain the go-to.
2019-10-17 15:29
yes because Nvidia removed SLI connectors from their xx60 cards starting with GTX960. before that, 2 xx60 cards was faster and often cheaper than a single xx80 in most games.
2019-10-17 15:33
i used to have 2x GTX460, then 2x 760, now i have a single 1060 and my CPU cant power 2 of those things even if they had the SLI connectors
2019-10-17 15:34
but my point is, you dont know what will happen in the future so you should leave a lot of room in your power budget when buying a PSU. and the more room you have, the longer the PSU will last before it breaks or blows up.
2019-10-17 15:35
this so called deterioating you speak of is factored in when buying a 550W PSU. even with a 3700x and a 2080S you will still have plenty of leeway with 550W. Also, next gen CPUs and GPUs usually have LESS power usage. conclusion: 550W is enough, stop spreading misinformation.
2019-10-17 15:59
current RTX2060 has higher TDP with 160W than GTX1060, which had only 120W TPD. reference GTX1060s had only 1 6 pin PCIe connector. geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforc.. so this comment is demonstrably false.
2019-10-17 16:04
Noone would buy a card one or two years after the other. 660 max power according to nvidia.com: 140W 1060 max power according to nvidia.com: 120W Everything you say is demonstrably false, you dont need more than 550W in 90% of cases.
2019-10-17 16:09
i already showed you RTX2060 uses more power than 1060. why are you still trying to argue this point?
2019-10-17 16:10
i already showed you 1060 uses less power than 660. why are you still trying to argue this point??????
2019-10-17 16:11
you were the one claiming new hardware always uses less power. that is false. i never claimed it always goes up. i claim TDPs go up and down and you cant predict what will happen next year.
2019-10-17 16:11
I said usually, not always. Learn to read.
2019-10-17 16:12
so if you are wrong with this prediction, you might have to replace your 550W psu in 2 years. is that a smart investment?
2019-10-17 16:16
1. why would you upgrade your gpu in 2 years, I dont know anyone who does that. if you buy a 2060 it will be powerful enough for way longer than that. 2. the trend clearly shows power consumption tends to go down, not up, over the generations 3. there is leeway for more power consumption even with a 550W psu so you would not have to replace the PSU regardless.
2019-10-17 16:19
you can also do it in 3 or 5 or 8 years. point is by having room in your power budget you have the option of adding a 2nd gpu. or for whatever else happens. maybe in 8 years, we will have separate cards for raytracing or something like that. you dont know what will happen. or you will be able to buy consumer grade mobos that you can put multiple CPUs in. i already did the math for you once to show that a 500W PSU has almost no leeway with this setup. with 550W you wvould have 50W of leeway. so if you ever upgrade anything you need a new PSU
2019-10-17 16:23
and my point is you are wrong, you have plenty of leeway with this setup with 550W ( Inever talked about 500...) both now and if you choose to upgrade GPU in the future. this double GPU shit is not gonna be relevant anytime soon. and if you were to upgrade your GPU in 3, 5 or 8 years, it would probably consume equal or less power, as the trend has shown, so it would still not require an update. jeez...
2019-10-17 17:22
generally, you dont want to stress the PSU over 80% or it will have a higher chance to blow up within a couple years, and its the most energy efficient at 80% load. so with for example 500W PSU, you actually want to be around 400W load. thats around 225 for the RTX2060, 100-150 for CPU depending on whether you overclock it or not, and then you already have only 25-75 left for all the other components. also, the total W spec for PSU often includes the 5V rail, the maximum power on the 12V rails for this "450W" be quiet PSU is only 420W. and it has 2 12V rails, which then have 210W each. 80% of 210 is 168W per rail, in total that is 336W, which is just BARELY enough to run a pc with 95W cpu and 225W gpu. i definitely wouldnt recommend it. this PSU cannot run the GPU on a single rail. you cant overclock CPU with it. thats why i would recommend at least 600W for a single heavy gpu setup like this. i have Corsair AX850 PSU myself from 2010 when AMD cpus were very power hungry and also had 2 225W GPUs and everything overclocked. it drew up to 775W from the wall socket in stress test benchmarks. its warranty expired in 2018. never had to worry about it. it did cost 150 euro.
2019-10-17 15:25
lot of bs here... 550w is enough, period. even if you would use a 3700x and a 2080S it would be enough. just get a decent one with gold/plat standard thats it.
2019-10-17 15:27
the 3700X is actually a more power efficient CPU than the 3600X, with 65W TDP instead of 95 and a lower base clock of 3.6Ghz instead of 3.9Ghz. the 2080 Super has a TDP of 250W. so with 550W PSU, with again 30W subtracted for 12V rail, times 0.8, you have effectively 416W to spend. after accounting for the GPU alone, you have 166W left. for CPU, RAM, etc. thats already pretty tight. you cant overclock with that setup.
2019-10-17 15:32
Yes you can and no, its not tight. First of, current gen CPUs are highly inefficient at overclocking - the standard boost clock is already at 4.4ghz for a 3700x and 5ghz for a 9900k. You A. wouldnt gain much performance and B. it wouldnt be cost efficient considering you have to spend 50€+ on a good cooler and maybe 50-100€ more on a suitable OC mobo and IF you still planned on doing it, you may invest into a 600-650W PSU, yes, and that would be 10000% sufficient once again. What makes more sense for a 3700x would be RAM overclocking which isnt a big burden on power at all. Stop getting all your knowledge from a power supply calculator.
2019-10-17 16:05
if you disable boost and clock all cores to 4.4ghz, you are also already overclocking and you will get more performance because this makes sure that the CPU never throttles. this does mean the CPU will permanently be using more power than in its TDP, easily 50% more.
2019-10-17 16:06
#96
rain | 
Czech Republic CyberBOT 
Nah man, listen to him, he knows what he's talking about. Plus you have to be able to handle additional components, like drives, fans etc, nevermind stuff liike watercooling and others. While not significant individually, they add up fairly quickly. Plus, the more long-term load you put the PSU under, the shorter it's lifespan will be, and that goes down exponentially. A good PSU is a must in any build, let alone a gaming rig.
2019-10-17 15:50
Nah. A good 550W PSU is enough. There is a reason for example Pure Powers have 5 year warranty. There is also a reason noone knowledgeable in the scene recommends more than 550w even for high end systems, UNLESS you have a lot of extra features or are an enthusiast overclocker. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about guys.
2019-10-17 15:57
That is absolute nonsense, top end computers definitely need more than 550w, you do not know what your talking about. No one listen to this guy.
2019-10-17 16:06
That is absolute nonsense, top end computers definitely do not need more than 550w, you do not know what your talking about. No one listen to this guy.
2019-10-17 16:09
i actually studied electrical engineering for a year
2019-10-17 16:09
and now what?
2019-10-17 16:10
i know what im talking about here. i even did the math for you.
2019-10-17 16:10
noone cares what you studied, I prefer believing people that actually work in the field or have had personal experience for decades and hardware enthusiasts than some wannabe who thinks studying electrical engineering is relevant to building a computer.
2019-10-17 16:12
i have been a hardware enthusiast and have been building PCs since like 2007. i have worked in IT for 9 years now. and on top of that i studied electrical engineering. only for 1 year but thats enough to learn about power supply and V*A=W
2019-10-17 16:14
So how come your opinion contradicts with the opinion of every other person with similar background as yours that I talked to?
2019-10-17 16:15
i gave you the math. not sure why anyone would disagree with it. show them and ask.
2019-10-17 16:16
No need. Your claim: something something about that shitty PSU in that prebult PC which noone cares about and I never mentioned. My claim: even with higher end hardware you only need a good quality 550W PSU. Proof: 3700x consumes about 90-100W under load 2070S consumes about 215W under load 32gb 3000 dual kit: anywhere between 10-30W 2-3 fans, disk reader, drives: maybe 30W combined total: 385W at full load. that is well under the 80% limit too. a good 550W PSU can deliver this power effortlessly. so much for math bro.
2019-10-17 16:39
yes but then you havent accounted for the turbo boost on the components which means GPU and CPU will temporarity exceed their TDP if the temperature allows it. or for overclocking or for adding any extra components in the future. which i all already wrote to you. i did all the math for you.
2019-10-17 16:41
I already wrote to you about overclocking. it is not cost efficient to do so with such high default clocks and only relevant for enthusiasts right now. and the default overclocking aka turboboost is well accounted for in my above example. anything else????
2019-10-17 16:42
no in fact turbo boost is not completely accounted for in TDP. anandtech.com/show/13544/why-intel-proce.. AMD also has turbo boost and they also exceed their TDP temporarily when boost is active. on average over longer period of time they will stick to somewhere close to the TDP but spikes can be significantly higher.
2019-10-17 16:44
TDP just doesnt mean what it used to anymore. same for all the stuff you hear about node sizes. 21nm, 14nm, 7nm, its all just marketing terms now that doesnt actually reflect how large the silicon gates are.
2019-10-17 16:45
I didnt go by TDP or whatever, I checked power consumption measurements from tests, and those are all under FULL LOAD.
2019-10-17 17:24
also, just to make that clear, the measurement accounts for boost. this is full load like I said. the 9900K under full load (aka turbo boost) only goes up to 200W. so again, you can satisfy that more than well with a 550W PSU of good quality, assuming you dont overclock, which isnt worth it anyway.
2019-10-17 18:01
by going with 200W for cpu, you make it very easy for me. 200W max for cpu without manual overclock, plus max 225W for gpu with 8 pin power connector. thats 425W. your PSU actually has its advertised 550W on 12V rails, but you still want to run it at 80% to avoid stressing it too much. so you get 440W. 440-425=15. with this PSU, only accounting for the CPU and GPU, you are already at your power budget. thats without accounting for the entire rest of the computer. you have 15W left for that. with this PSU, your pc will probably shut down if you run a 9900K with adequate cooling and a GPU with 8 pin power connector, if you run cinebench and furmark at the same time for a couple seconds.
2019-10-18 10:20
also you completely forgot about mobo using power as well adding 30W for mobo, you are at your power limit with this 550W even in your calculation
2019-10-17 16:42
the limit is 440, not 415. and turboboost will not increase power consumption excessively. so with boost activated, maybe you are on the limit. which is not a problem whatsoever. you want me to do more accurate calculations? I was being generous with giving the ram+extras 60W, you can probably lower that to 30. so again, more than enough room.
2019-10-17 16:47
as i already said, 30W is not enough room to add extra components in the future. limiting your future options significantly to save 30 euro on a PSU today is just a bad investment.
2019-10-17 16:47
what extra components? noone fucking needs extra components. maybe another SSD which takes 1 additional watt.
2019-10-17 16:49
no more replies from you, since I fucking refuted all the dumb shit you threw at me. instead you have to spam my PMs now. fucking loser
2019-10-17 19:40
i told you already, i actually maxed out on my 150 replies for today trying to tell you youre wrong and i put in a lot of effort too kid, and i didnt insult you. you seem very mad, and i think its because you understand you lost.
2019-10-17 20:44
maybe they dont know about removing some W for the 5V rail which all manufacturers incorrectly add to the power spec for the PSU. or they dont account for the fact that you want the PSU to run at maximum 80%. or they dont reserve an extra 50% on top of specified TDP from nvidia or amd or intel, because they dont know TDP these days is more of a guideline for average power draw than actual maximum power. with all the variable clock rates and turbo boost and thermal and power envelopes. or maybe they assume you will never overclock or add a 2nd gpu.
2019-10-17 16:26
yes, you are the only studied IT expert and hardware enthusiast who accounts for those. also noone assumes they will add a 2nd GPU. literally noone.
2019-10-17 17:13
drives and fans are on 5V rail which is usually about 30W which i already reserved in calculation. besides GPU and PSU you have just power for RAM and components on mobo, like audio chip, loss in capacitors, PCIe lanes. mobos dont use as much power now as in the past because of south bridge and north bridge being moved onto CPU chip in modern architectures. mobo is like 25-50W. RAM is only a couple W per stick. but all together it adds up.
2019-10-17 16:09
#183
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Czech Republic CyberBOT 
HDD's use 12V for the motors and 5V for the logic board. Also, some PSU manufacturers use only the 12V wattage in the naming of the unit. That's mostly higher-end stuff though.
2019-10-18 08:23
#78
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CIS STA_7 
Thank you sir
2019-10-17 15:14
#61
ZywOo | 
Belgium Sidounet 
thats a nice analogy, because changing tires can also be done properly by anybody, even women. and it can even be done with equipment that every car has to have per law.
2019-10-17 12:57
#65
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Sweden swediztann3 
good site, looking horrible and lags
2019-10-17 13:47
#75
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North America 007DBR9 
This is a decent price for what you're getting, to build it would be 130$ more expensive. pcpartpicker.com/user/007DBR9/saved/#vie..
2019-10-17 14:03
#81
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Albania Fleeperi 
Ryzne 3600x has proven to be better than i7700K (considered to be king of gaming for many years) at single tread performance which is really important in gaming. If you can afford go with Ryzen 3600x
2019-10-17 15:19
#141
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Australia SUNSPY 
Ya ok, cool.. hence even without X its gonna be piss fast hey Congrats to AMD finally fucking kick ass gaming chipset and CPU range.. took em a long time to catch up but numbers dont lie
2019-10-17 16:42
#171
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Albania Fleeperi 
yea they both are on the same level now but Amd right now is wining because gives almost same performance but in lower price.
2019-10-17 20:44
lol paying 699 to play cs only. cs is free hahaha
2019-10-17 15:35
jesus christ just build your own pc wtf
2019-10-17 15:36
#93
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Bulgaria LEMON$LIME 
get 3600 or 3600x and NEVER RTX2060 kb
2019-10-17 15:40
#94
forsaken | 
Lithuania Zephx 
256gb is not that much but if its for cs mainly then it should be enough, this is not a bad prebuilt for the price tbh
2019-10-17 15:41
#118
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Europe twitchy_ 
There are a lot of companies that let you decide which cpu/mobo/gpu...you want and they mount that with $30 fee or something like that. By the way, csgo don't need a lot of power, so any $600 pc could do the job, but I would rather spend a little more so you have a pc that last more and could handle more advanced or future games. I have an i5 3570K which is like 7 or 8 years old with a 1060gtx and I have like 150frames. I need to upgrade cpu but I'll wait for the 10th gen that should launch in some weeks-months.
2019-10-17 16:18
This would be a fine PC if they used a newer generation Ryzen processor. They are using last gen.
2019-10-17 16:18
#123
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Brazil cadik 
No Build your own pc.
2019-10-17 16:23
#127
Magisk | 
Armenia s1xX 
custom built PC > pre built Intel > AMD Nvidia > AMD /thread closed
2019-10-17 16:26
#134
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Europe Vallon3 
+1
2019-10-17 16:40
/open 1. yes 2. +3. always depends on current tech and currently, Ryzens are superior in cost efficiency and more futureproof. as for GPUs yes its mostly nvidia leading the field with the 2070S. /closed
2019-10-17 17:27
#179
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World ZMDR 
Intel is overpriced doodoo
2019-10-17 21:40
#135
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Australia SUNSPY 
Ryzen 3rd gen.. yes please. Or has intel already put out something faster and cheap enough to give a fuck ? im gonna assume 3600 is amazing value, still on my 2600 and it will shit on this thing
2019-10-17 16:40
Ryzen will always be better than intel in this last generation. This pc is ok, but the nvidia 2060 is so trash.. exchange for one Radeon rx 5700
2019-10-17 16:45
#153
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Europe twitchy_ 
For gaming intel is better than amd, by a small margin while on other things amd is far superior, but depending on what he wants to do, intel could be a better bet. I mean, not everybody is rendering or using premiere at 8k like the benchmark guys do. To play csgo, 2060 is enough and I don't get why you say it's a trash gpu when it's almost at same level than rx 5700, maybe a 2060 super would be a better bet. It's an entry gaming level, but as I said, for csgo at 1080 is more than enough.
2019-10-17 17:19
#155
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Slovakia FiiLCS 
It's about what you'd get if you were to build your own pc + w10.. i'd go for it
2019-10-17 17:20
#159
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Germany fabiS 
If your only using it for cs Its ok If you can change Go for rx 590 8gb And mabye ryzen 5 3600
2019-10-17 17:31
700 euro for ryzen 5 2600 and rtx 2060 hahahahaha
2019-10-18 08:32
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