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C9 Wardell
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Georgia Broozman 
Will be a good pickup
2019-10-17 16:58
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#1
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United States skzl_ 
Why would I want to start a war with dell?
2019-10-17 16:59
#2
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Georgia Broozman 
wtf, men
2019-10-17 17:00
#4
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United States skzl_ 
maybe i start a war with intel?
2019-10-17 17:01
#5
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Georgia Broozman 
good idea
2019-10-17 17:01
incel?
2019-10-17 17:24
#31
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United States skzl_ 
I want to fuck you
2019-10-17 17:25
no, do it with ryzen
2019-10-17 20:35
mr canellas is already main avp tho
2019-10-17 17:00
#8
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Georgia Broozman 
But Wardell is better, -koosta +wardell, mixwell to rifle/second awp
2019-10-17 17:02
#11
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United States gingaaCS 
Koosta is probably their best or second best player right now
2019-10-17 17:03
#12
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North America TheReelMVP 
Koosta has been doing pretty well, tenz however has been super underwhelming. Bench tenz +wardell
2019-10-17 17:04
#17
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
bench tenz wtf? why bench a guy who is only 18 and shows a lot of promise. just give him some time.
2019-10-17 17:09
He shows no promise in game. Probably their weakest player rn
2019-10-17 17:22
#52
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
Give him time
2019-10-17 19:24
#53
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
Not everyone can be like twistzz and play insane at such a young age
2019-10-17 19:25
I don't think he should get replaced but smth just isn't right dykwim
2019-10-17 21:02
Imagine benching a young talent 3 months into his "tier 1" career because he's not putting up Zywoo numbers
2019-10-17 20:23
cañellas*
2019-10-17 17:05
#19
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Russia deadforest 
same shit
2019-10-17 17:09
nope
2019-10-17 17:12
-mixwell +wardell instant top 10 team
2019-10-17 17:01
#54
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Qatar PrisMcsgo 
Mixwell is one of their best players
2019-10-17 19:25
that isn't even remotely true, daps out frags mixwell and he's IGL.
2019-10-17 19:39
#59
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Spain ZephyrBruh 
Name checks out, do you even look at stats?
2019-10-17 20:25
You've got to be kidding me. Mixwell is their most consistently good player at the moment with Koosta following in a close second. Yes, Wardell is good but bringing him in over Mixwell is only going to cause issues within their system because Wardell might not be comfortable playing the positions Mix does.
2019-10-17 20:26
i want to see c9 in top 10 more than anyone, but they absolutely will NOT make it with mixwell on their team, it's just a fact, they got a lucky placement at 21 their first event, then dropped passed 30.
2019-10-17 21:03
#65
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Japan PKcrash 
lmao what stats have you been looking at? this is very wrong
2019-10-17 20:46
#68
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Switzerland x676 
+100000000
2019-10-17 21:05
#7
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Denmark bebm 
kick the dude who makes the most mistakes in csgo history at the pro level koo(n)sta
2019-10-17 17:01
#9
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United States skzl_ 
he is their best player rn
2019-10-17 17:02
#16
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United States skzl_ 
yeah mixwell tbh has been a bit better and more consistent, but i think koosta has been more impactful than autimatic and more consistent
2019-10-17 17:07
#18
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Denmark bebm 
"yeah mixwell tbh has been a bit better and more consistent" first of all do u see that rating gap? i agree that if the rating gap is small then u can argue either is better but that is a huge fucking gap second of all even if u think mixwell is slightly better, that makes koosta not their best player NA brain
2019-10-17 17:09
#21
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United States skzl_ 
can you not have second opinions? after rethinking it yeah i think mixwell has been better but not by much, mixwell has done well in the games they lost which means that it was little impact. and when koosta does well they usually won. i think i am right yes
2019-10-17 17:12
#23
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Denmark bebm 
kiddo look at their impact ratings its not even close ur just blinded behind ur hate of mixwell to see he has been way better than koo(n)sta this year
2019-10-17 17:15
#25
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United States skzl_ 
lol what, i like mixwell ever since optic, i’ve watched most c9 games since the new roster and maybe i’m biased because i expected koosta to be bad and mixwell to be good and because koosta has exceeded my expectations i’m not labeling him as the best performer so far
2019-10-17 17:21
#28
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Denmark bebm 
1.) u did label koosta as the best player on c9 already then i proved u wrong 2.) just because koosta exceeded ur expectations (u must have low expectations cuz koosta is still negative) does make him close to mixwell, a 0.12 rating diff in the past few months and 0.24 for the year is a huge fucking difference, its like the same difference between top 3 players elige/device vs. someone like apex or nbk
2019-10-17 17:23
#30
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United States skzl_ 
ok but why are your settings on lan? 80% of c9s matches have been online, they have literally only played one lan and it was a bo1 lan with no time to practice, your data is pretty skewed
2019-10-17 17:25
#32
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Denmark bebm 
51 maps is enough sample size for LAN this year Mixwell 1.21 Koosta 0.97 But fine for all matches hltv.org/stats/players/compare/9056/koos.. mixwell is still 0.1 better which is solid, but all that proves is koosta is an onliner and mixwell is a good online and lan player
2019-10-17 17:28
#34
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United States skzl_ 
but we’re talking about their time on c9, and mixwell have been playing tier 99 spanish teams while koosta was playing multiple high tier lan events with ghost
2019-10-17 17:31
#36
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Denmark bebm 
false, ghost didnt play any big events this year, only 1 sorta goodish lan event, IBP masters, not a big event tho so that excuse is nullified also here are ghost's team stats during that event hltv.org/stats/teams/players/7801/Ghost?..
2019-10-17 18:10
#37
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United States skzl_ 
my b i assumed this event was this year hltv.org/matches/2329675/natus-vincere-v.. but really all the information is irrelevant as i’m we’re arguing who is doing better in c9 NOT who has had a better career which is obviously mixwell
2019-10-17 18:12
#39
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Denmark bebm 
yea, and in c9, the past month or so, mixwell has been better period
2019-10-17 18:13
#41
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United States skzl_ 
ok and that’s an opinion, and i think it’s debatable wether or not koosta is better and you don’t so i respect that opinion, so why are we arguing?
2019-10-17 18:15
#42
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Denmark bebm 
because ur observation is subjective and mine is objective im looking at the facts, the rating, the impact, the c9 games that i did watch as context, the eye test ur using ur feelings to cloud ur judgement there is 0 arguements for koosta being better than mixwell, the only 2 arguments uve brought up are "its just my opinion" and "but they are closer in online matches"
2019-10-17 18:18
#43
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United States skzl_ 
stats =/= facts just because lebrun go more points in the game doesn’t mean he was the most impactful on his team
2019-10-17 18:22
#44
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Denmark bebm 
true but if lebron gets 30 ppg and some pleb gets 5 ppg, then idc what u think lebron is better also mixwells impact is 1.15 and koosta is 0,93 so cry
2019-10-17 18:25
#45
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United States skzl_ 
once again you’re using stats when koosta wasn’t in c9 and when mixwell was in spain. You also can’t truly define impact and that is opinion based, you can do an extent where an opening kill is valued as impact, but when a player gets a crucial kill in the round when you’re watching you will see that as impact, but the impact stat won’t be able to see that because it’s a computer.
2019-10-17 18:28
#46
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Denmark bebm 
even mixwells c9 stats are better so stop going that direction, also we already established that this year ghost hasnt played any t1 events this is why we use stats, because stats ignore EVERY players rare extreme impact plays that dont show up on the scoreboard, every player has moments that dont show up on the scoreboard so stats puts everyone on the same footing unless u want to individually count out how many impact non scoreboard moments each player had mixwell > koosta, theres nothing else to it mixwell better stats, mixwell better rating, mixwell better KAST (all 3 catagories are c9 stats only)
2019-10-17 18:31
#48
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United States skzl_ 
i use emotions and thoughts and a little bit of stats to sway my opinions and you’re mostly stat based and that’s why our opinions are different /closed
2019-10-17 18:35
#49
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Denmark bebm 
THERE IS NO STAT SUGGESTING KOOSTA > MIXWELL NOTHING, NOT C9 STATS, NOT GHOST STATS, NOT HISTORIC STATS U DONT USE ANY STATS UR 100% OPINIONATED
2019-10-17 18:35
#51
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United States skzl_ 
koosta better hs percent nt
2019-10-17 18:37
#55
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Spain ZephyrBruh 
chill man he's baiting you
2019-10-17 19:27
#10
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Georgia Broozman 
I was always thinking what he's doing in top team, when he was always shit player XD
2019-10-17 17:02
#14
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United States jay_320 
Mixwell has been playing really well with the AWP and the team finally looks to be gelling. At least online. I think you stick with this line up at least another six months, if no progress is made you go for a superstar to pair with Autimatic or disband. Tenz is supposed to be that guy so I'm willing to give it time. He's an animal mechanically but he came up through FPL. That means we are going to see overpeeking from him. Hiding to compensate. Using the M4a1 to try to get out of a funk etc etc. But if he puts it together, they could be really solid. 3rd best NA team for sure. That's about where C9 is at atm.
2019-10-17 17:06
#20
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Georgia Broozman 
They have very unstable results, choking to tier-10 teams and winning against furia in bo3, omegalul
2019-10-17 17:09
#24
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United States jay_320 
Right. They are a relatively new team who wants to develop the next Twistzz. That's going to mean up and down results at least until Autimatic and Mixwell are completely comfortable. Once you have that part down you probably have a top 20 team with this roster. Whether it's ever a top ten team is going to be on Tenz which is a lot to put on an 18 year old. But you never know with the young players. Like I said he certainly has the mechanical skill. I know people make fun of the aim map records but frankly they are impressive. Playing on a professional level is a hard transition though.
2019-10-17 17:20
#27
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India stiwa5k 
Nahh complexity is better destination for him
2019-10-17 17:22
#33
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Poland kinkers 
mixwell is fine, the problem is in tenz who is letting everyone down atm and tactical mistakes
2019-10-17 17:30
#35
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Ukraine Slaxer 
mixwell is not bad actually. Team which is now in C9 is also very good
2019-10-17 17:40
yes
2019-10-17 18:12
#40
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United States twistzzgod 
not bad but coL better (-Shahzam +WARDELL -dephh +floppy)
2019-10-17 18:14
Wouldn't be as much of an impact as him replazing Shahzam on coL. He's obviously better than Mixwell in some people's eyes but it's not by a large enough margin to warrant a roster change when Mixwell is far from the problem on that team
2019-10-17 18:32
#50
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United States yghj 
no. if mixwell is cut or leaves you still have koosta, the best awper in NA. why would you use wardell?
2019-10-17 18:36
#56
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Indonesia lukerey 
autimatic tenz mixwell hazed(IGL) if he still following the scene & playing the game lul. moose/lowel/styko daps move to coach.
2019-10-17 19:30
#62
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Spain ZephyrBruh 
lowel in for daps is a good idea, but hazed? get a better igl in blameF or valde. Also, why keep tenz?
2019-10-17 20:32
#69
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Switzerland x676 
1. loWel is an extremly washed up and overated player (and passive agresive problematic player), his prime time has passed away and... read carefully.................. spanish teams don't want him.... so imagine what kind of player are we talking about. 2. Mixwell will not play ever again with loWel, he doesn't even follow him on social media, they are totally confronted ( activate subtitles ): youtu.be/toBNm348IrE?t=113 1:50-2:25 3:22-4:28
2019-10-17 21:20
Wardell said he will not join tier2-3 teams
2019-10-17 20:27
#63
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Germany KGV7 
nop never
2019-10-17 20:33
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